Billboard Hot 100: 06/26/2021

[nathanalbright]

That makes sense; thanks for the update though.

[kindofbiased]

Talk of the Charts became such a big part of our little niche, hoping they can come back sometime soon.

[gikem]

Thought long and hard about this, but I've decided not to follow the current Hot 100 closely or support Billboard/visit their website until further notice.

I've been on the fence about whether I should keep following this chart week-to-week ever since around mid-2020 with all the totally random and often manipulated #1 hits, but today's debacle with TOTC has sealed it. It's not worth it for me to devote time to a chart company that not only won't fix obvious issues with both their website and their chart formulae, but also will force sites that can do their same job better to shut down. I get that Billboard is a business, and under copyright law they have the right to call out non-profit entities using their information without explicit permission. But in turn, they are responsible for maintaining their own functional website that can serve as a valuable resource for fans, the industry, and ardent chart-watchers alike, which they have failed to do. Instead, they've chosen to paywall most of their charts not named the Hot 100 or Billboard 200 and undo the hard work of those synthesizing data they've made public for the convenience of other chart-watchers.

In lieu of following the Hot 100, I will be using the Rolling Stone Top 100 songs and a chart called the V30, which bases its formula on Rolling Stone song units, Kworb radio estimates, and a "3-week rule" that allows for a more consistent chart. (If you're not familiar, you can check out the latest edition here.) I will also be following Billboard's other charts casually, but only on third-party websites and YouTube rankdown videos. Otherwise, I will never be visiting Billboard's website or thinking about their manipulated joke of a main chart (outside of year-end/GOAT content that can be found beyond their website) until the company can prove my satisfaction. They have not earned my time or money with their actions today.

P.S. I'll still be around on Pulse, but you can expect me to post less often in Chart Discussion.

[chartfreak]

Damn!

[Groovy]

I wouldn’t give Billboard any sort of money, the day they charge to see the Hot 100 is the day I stop chart watching.

[gikem]

Jun 13, 2021 18:03:19 GMT -5 Groovy said:

I wouldn’t give Billboard any sort of money, the day they charge to see the Hot 100 is the day I stop chart watching.

I meant to refer to visiting their website. Obviously, I'm not a subscriber, and if I were I would've cancelled my subscription today.

[s9983]

I remember the days simon used to be the big predictions page that everyone looked at. And fans would eat him alive for getting certain songs wrong, even though he just couldn't get billboard's formula right. TOTC was incredibly accurate everytime, so in a way i guess this can allow fans to anticipate charts a little more and be surprised when billboard's chart is posted? Hoping for a return for TOTC though!

[KeepDeanWeird]

Billboard only exists to make money, which is used partly to employee workers. Billboard is not a government agency or a not-for-profit. They have every right to protect what is legally theirs.

The H100 is interesting, but it's never been the 'definitive' source of popularity - the RSO/Casablanca scandals in the 70s, during the 80s there were GOLD genre singles 'Juicy Fruit,' 'Swingin'' that missed the Top 40, excluding airplay-only until 1998, switching from a pop radio only/all sales to an all-genre radio (with nearly no sales) until iTunes, adjusting formulas, etc.

No predictions - no worries. It'll make the actual reveals far more interesting - like the 'old' days.

[Henry Suárez]

The f**k? so that's why I was trying to enter TOCT and was down, dammit, and I couldn't save the GOAT!  

[Groovy]

Jun 13, 2021 18:07:06 GMT -5 gikem said:

Jun 13, 2021 18:03:19 GMT -5 Groovy said:

I wouldn’t give Billboard any sort of money, the day they charge to see the Hot 100 is the day I stop chart watching.

I meant to refer to visiting their website. Obviously, I'm not a subscriber, and if I were I would've cancelled my subscription today.

You can always go to acharts that's where I go to know what songs drop out or just wait for it to come out on Youtube if you want to know what's charting without visiting Billboard. 

[atg]

Imagine trying to shut up a group of people who are clearly fans of your work and only predict what will happen next on your charts. Tell me why we haven’t migrated to Rolling Stone yet..

[Henry Suárez]

Jun 13, 2021 18:47:11 GMT -5 atg said:

Imagine trying to shut up a group of people who are clearly fans of your work and only predict what will happen next on your charts. Tell me why we haven’t migrated to Rolling Stone yet..

Rolling Stone top 100 = Billboard Streaming songs so nope imo.

Anyway, in my case I don't care about the Hot 100 weekly charts because they are a mess (only YE and all-time I care a bit) I follow the radio charts more like top 40, adult pop, alternative, rhythmic, latin, etc..

[garrettlen]

Unless any of us actually pay for a Billboard subscription or are in the industry or otherwise closely involved in it, Billboard owes us NOTHING.

And conversely, we don't owe them anything either; certainly not our patronage, so if you wish to go follow the RS charts from now on....God speed.

[phieaglesfan712]

To be honest, the only reason why I follow the Billboard chart is because Blinding Lights is nearing a record. If/when BL falls off, I will probably lose interest in chart following, unless another meaningful record becomes within striking distance.

That being said, the Rolling Stone chart does not take radio into consideration, and that is a huge problem. Radio is the metric that has been around the longest, and in my opinion, is still the most reliable metric. They need to at least incorporate radio, even if it is a very small percentage, into their chart formula.

[garrettlen]

Jun 12, 2021 14:24:31 GMT -5 s9983 said:

Jun 12, 2021 13:06:31 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Except BTS

EDIT: What Limited Edition said

BTS could drop 5 remixes with their new song and all sorts of fraudulent methods to go with it but it still would not compare. Hello had almost 1k points in the first day with SALES ALONE. Dont get it twisted. Adele doesn't need mass buying fraudulence to go #1 with full confidence. 

Adele released "Hello" in the fall of 2015, nearly 6 years ago.

People and listening habits may have moved on since then.

In any case, we will know whenever she finally gets around to releasing something new.

[bbdenney94]

Fun fact, if you don't want to give Billboard any money (and still want to view their charts):

• Use uBlock Origin as an extension on your browser to block all advertising.
  
• On a page with a paywall, hit the refresh button and immediately click the "X". 

Not sure how many are aware of the last one, but it's how I've viewed the charts for years now.

[jthentic]

[phieaglesfan712]

Yet another milestone for Blinding Lights:

Does anyone know what the record for most weeks at #1 on the AC chart?

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Jun 13, 2021 21:07:13 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Yet another milestone for Blinding Lights: 


Does anyone know what the record for most weeks at #1 on the AC chart?

Girls Like You with 36 weeks

[iHype.]

I've always found the fact AC/UAC have current charts kinda odd and dumb.

80% of the playlists on those stations are recurrent songs/classics. What's the point of a chart that does not track most of the music actually played on the format?

[𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤]

I’m kinda grumpy w this whole thing because TOTC does all the chart shit better than BB, but BB charges me $11 a month while TOTC is free

I’d like BB to take notes from them or even collab on a user-friendly chart search feature??? I don’t know!! I just hate that they shut down a good website to make us pay for their site (which DOESNT WORK btw. Their chart search is SHIT). I’m being forced to switch from Coke to soda water-y Mountain Dew

[algo]

i wonder if totc's absence will impact the charts in any way. there's definitely been instances of fans taking their data and using it to boost a song's presence on the hot 100. i can't imagine it'd be huge of course but there's something to note there

[gikem]

Jun 13, 2021 21:26:28 GMT -5 algo said:

i wonder if totc's absence will impact the charts in any way. there's definitely been instances of fans taking their data and using it to boost a song's presence on the hot 100. i can't imagine it'd be huge of course but there's something to note there

I'm sure a lot of the stans will be flocking to Winston, who is a measurable downgrade from TOTC. They'll have a field day validating his clout-chasing tendencies.

[algo]

Jun 13, 2021 21:39:41 GMT -5 gikem said:

Jun 13, 2021 21:26:28 GMT -5 algo said:

i wonder if totc's absence will impact the charts in any way. there's definitely been instances of fans taking their data and using it to boost a song's presence on the hot 100. i can't imagine it'd be huge of course but there's something to note there

I'm sure a lot of the stans will be flocking to Winston, who is a measurable downgrade from TOTC. They'll have a field day validating his clout-chasing tendencies.

i imagine other chart predictors such as winston are going to be very cautious moving forward when it comes to posting predictions and such. i doubt they wanna risk any sort of message from billboard now that the company is aware that chart predictors exist

[gikem]

Jun 13, 2021 21:45:45 GMT -5 algo said:

Jun 13, 2021 21:39:41 GMT -5 gikem said:

I'm sure a lot of the stans will be flocking to Winston, who is a measurable downgrade from TOTC. They'll have a field day validating his clout-chasing tendencies.

i imagine other chart predictors such as winston are going to be very cautious moving forward when it comes to posting predictions and such. i doubt they wanna risk any sort of message from billboard now that the company is aware that chart predictors exist

Well, Winston has been spending today making early predictions for 6/26, in the midst of the TOTC debacle, so...

[algo]

Jun 13, 2021 21:54:01 GMT -5 gikem said:

Jun 13, 2021 21:45:45 GMT -5 algo said:

i imagine other chart predictors such as winston are going to be very cautious moving forward when it comes to posting predictions and such. i doubt they wanna risk any sort of message from billboard now that the company is aware that chart predictors exist

Well, Winston has been spending today making early predictions for 6/26, in the midst of the TOTC debacle, so...

i- now i'm starting to suspect he had something to do with this

[SPRΞΞ]

I see a real surge in relevancy of the Rolling Stone’s chart. I think in 5 years we might not even be talking about Billboard anymore, only to recall past charts. Kinda just like streaming took over radio.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jun 13, 2021 19:32:20 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

To be honest, the only reason why I follow the Billboard chart is because Blinding Lights is nearing a record. If/when BL falls off, I will probably lose interest in chart following, unless another meaningful record becomes within striking distance.

That being said, the Rolling Stone chart does not take radio into consideration, and that is a huge problem. Radio is the metric that has been around the longest, and in my opinion, is still the most reliable metric. They need to at least incorporate radio, even if it is a very small percentage, into their chart formula.

Probably bait but I'll bite: how is radio the most reliable metric?

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 06/12/21

1(=) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 2,576,070 (-196,913)
2(+4) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 1,435,543 (-13,512)
3(=) Polo G - RAPSTAR 1,375,344 (-175,412)
4(=) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 1,313,589 (-128,187)
5(+2) Olivia Rodrigo - traitor 1,214,750 (-125,217)
6(+2) Dua Lipa - Levitating 1,132,219 (+36,196)
7(+4) Bad Bunny - Yonaguni 1,038,007 (+3,728)
8(+4) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 1,018,477 (-4,073)
9(-4) Migos - Having Our Way 966,969 (-471,612)
10(=) Olivia Rodrigo - favorite crime 928,909 (-133,717)

Polo G - Hall of Fame
20(-6) Black Hearted 750,660 (-258,075)
23(-14) No Return 721,388 (-374,281)
25(-5) GANG GANG 699,566 (-185,641)
45(-18) Toxic 497,043 (-295,640)
53(-15) Clueless 461,309 (-198,741)
54(-21) Painting Pictures 455,952 (-390,224)
59(-25) Boom 427,911 (-244,642)
61(-18) Party Lyfe 424,229 (-194,113)
63(-16) Epidemic 404,974 (-185,358)
71(-26) Go Part 1 385,558 (-220,350)
72(-9) Bloody Canvas 384,646 (-135,995)
73(-27) Heart of a Giant 384,056 (-214,573)
81(-33) Broken Guitars 360,105 (-229,366)
82(-18) So Real 358,170 (-155,317)

Migos - Culture III
28(-6) Straightenin 653,050 (-199,267)
32(-16) Avalanche 607,334 (-381,606)
38(-12) Malibu 531,361 (-273,856)
52(-13) Modern Day 466,906 (-183,155)
57(=) Jane 434,537 (-106,580)
62(-22) Antisocial 413,094 (-233,235)
67(-15) Vaccine 399,357 (-167,727)
70(-29) Type Shit 389,534 (-252,384)
76(-27) Picasso 382,240 (-206,241)
85(-34) Birthday 352,801 (-217,685)
100(-34) Light It Up 328,832 (-179,387)

Olivia Rodrigo - SOUR
11(+4) brutal 901,990 (-99,855)
12(+1) happier 901,028 (-118,980)
17(=) drivers license 850,933 (-95,834)
21(+4) jealousy, jealous 725,865 (-89,788)
27(+1) enough for you 664,201 (-29,585)
35(-2) 1 step forward, 3 steps back 586,808 (-88,725)
44(+6) hope ur ok 498,712 (-77,145)
Total Streams: 11,162,855

Others:
13(-11) Lorde - Solar Power 882,605 (-760,681)
14(+10) Justin Bieber - Peaches 864,619 (+46,294)
15(+3) Megan Thee Stallion - Thot Shit 860,861 (-42,997)
16(+3) Doja Cat - Need to Know 853,349 (-50,437)
18(+3) Drake - Wants and Needs 832,719 (-29,585)
19(+10) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 761,168 (+1,431)
22(+8) Masked Wolf - Astronaut In The Ocean 725,087 (+10,348)
24(+7) Rauw Alejandro - Todo De Ti 715,848 (+5,947)
26(+11) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open 676,328 (+12,788)
29(+6) WILLOW - t r a n s p a r e n t s o u l 650,642 (-17,416)
30(+6) BTS - Butter 627,060 (-39,988)
31(+13) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 615,117 (-2,312)
33(+9) Maroon 5 - Beautiful Mistakes 606,690 (-12,332)
34(-2) Billie Eilish - Lost Cause 590,656 (-96,087)
36(+17) Saweetie - Best Friend 569,300 (+9,186)
37(+17) Cardi B - Up 559,454 (+4,990)
39(+17) Giveon - Heartbreak Anniversary 522,962 (-18,506)
40(+15) Roddy Ricch - Late At Night 511,077 (-36,647)
42(+16) Trippie Redd - Miss the Rage 501,665 (-32,436)
43(+16) J. Cole - m y . l i f e 499,239 (-33,322)
46(+21) Kali Uchis - telepatía 490,446 (-15,665)
48(+14) Bella Poarch - Build a Bitch 489,286 (-32,378)
49(+21) Cochise, $NOT - Tell Em 489,092 (-9,516)
50(+27) Luke Combs - Forever After All 485,100 (+16,288)
51(+17) J. Cole - p r i d e . i s . t h e . d e v i l 473,360 (-30,444)
60(+12) Lil Baby, Lil Durk - Hats Off 425,788 (-50,386)
65(+19) Lil Tecca - Never Left 402,031 (-28,878)
69(+20) DJ Khaled - EVERY CHANCE I GET 390,437 (-14,570)
77(-3) Bo Burnham - All Eyes On Me 377,007 (-94,157)
78(+14) Marshmello - Leave Before You Love Me 372,731 (-7,974)
80(+3) Bo Burnham - Welcome to the Internet 364,474 (-79,786)
83(+20) MoneyBagg Yo - Wockesha 354,995 (-603)
87(-12) Kelsea Ballerini, LANY - I Quit Drinking 350,570 (-120,591)
89(+13) Nicki Minaj - Seeing Green 349,427 (-7,146)
90(+8) Surf Curse - Freaks 349,188 (-16,582)
92(+5) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 345,331 (-21,111)
94(+29) Nelly, Florida Georgia Line - Lil Bit 338,215 (+16,819)
99(+17) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 330,651 (-5,270)

112(+21) Los Legendarios, Wisin, Jhay Cortez - Fiel 311,887 (+1,786)
117(-24) Bo Burnham - Look Who's Inside Again 303,635 (-74,995)
121(+63) Jhay Cortez - Christian Dior 295,404 (+39,319)
122(+16) BIA - WHOLE LOTTA MONEY 295,200 (-8,420)
128(-8) Matt Maltese - As the World Caves In 289,737 (-37,719)
135(+26) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Ski 278,867 (+7,335)
136(+39) Chris Young, Kane Brown - Famous Friends 274,193 (+12,729)
139(+21) Ryan Hurd - Chasing After You 272,556 (+442)
140(-35) Bo Burnham - Shit 271,193 (-83,786)
141(+12) StarBoi3 - Dick 267,799 (-11,655)
143(+6) Lil Nas X - SUN GOES DOWN 264,772 (-19,908)
144(-5) Billie Eilish - Your Power 264,567 (-37,368)
145(-49) Maroon 5 - Lost 264,460 (-153,100)
151(-37) Burnham - Content 260,785 (-78,630)
155(-45) Bo Burnham - Goodbye 258,975 (-86,170)
165(-50) Bo Burnham - That Funny Feeling 251,672 (-85,440)
177(-77) SAINt JHN - Just for Me 242,272 (-121,774)
185(-2) Duncan Laurence - Arcade 236,274 (-22,109)

Total Streams for Save Your Tears: 945,768

[nathanalbright]

Sour still holding better than the new albums rip