Gary
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Post by Gary on Jun 16, 2021 12:29:27 GMT -5
Billboard would probably welcome that anyway - lots of charts to compete with Billboard have come and gone, in the end it ay be hard to topple a chart with 80 years of history
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Groovy
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Post by Groovy on Jun 16, 2021 12:47:32 GMT -5
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Post by Henry Suárez on Jun 16, 2021 12:59:03 GMT -5
Doesn't Gary have a subscription with Billboard? It probably skipped his mind that not everyone does. Oh, true. He has mentioned having one before I think. The f5 trick still works too, but just the fact one has to use a trick to see the chart lets you know that info is not intended to be widely used or disseminated. I stand by my original assertion that TOTC should launch their own chart. BB basically deaded all the things that made TOTC stand out from other predictors. I don't have subscription but I use an adblock and can see all of their charts (the ones I'm interested like Top 40, Adult Pop, Rhythmic, Alternative, etc) I've been watching their charts for free on the internet since 2003 so not gonna pay for that now, nope, lol.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 16, 2021 13:10:12 GMT -5
While I am glad Lukas and the team will be able to post predictions, I am bummed out the data and stats will still be gone, even if I understand it from a legal perspective.
This tweet sums up why that sucks
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 16, 2021 13:16:59 GMT -5
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Choco
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Post by Choco on Jun 16, 2021 13:19:03 GMT -5
Didn't I see some BTS fan account saying they needed to organize and buy at least 113k this week? That prediction is only gonna fuel that need to waste money even more lol.
But I do hope g4u finally returns to #1.
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Post by Push The Button on Jun 16, 2021 13:19:12 GMT -5
Billboard should hire everyone involved and have them revamp that god awful website.
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kcdawg13
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jun 16, 2021 13:28:36 GMT -5
Could BTS fans donate a couple thousand to me
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dovahduck
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Post by dovahduck on Jun 16, 2021 13:41:43 GMT -5
Could BTS fans donate a couple thousand to me Fr and me too
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Choco
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Post by Choco on Jun 16, 2021 13:43:07 GMT -5
Billboard should hire everyone involved and have them revamp that god awful website. For sure. Their website sucks. Ngl, if I need any chart I just search for it on this forum and it's always a much easier read.
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kcdawg13
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jun 16, 2021 13:45:29 GMT -5
Could BTS fans donate a couple thousand to me Fr and me too We could split the 113k, both of us get 56k and we'll leave the remaining thousand to Butter.
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Post by algo on Jun 16, 2021 13:50:59 GMT -5
We could split the 113k, both of us get 56k and we'll leave the remaining thousand to Butter. i'll take half of that remaining thousand actually, i need new bedsheets and i want top notch quality.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Jun 16, 2021 14:02:12 GMT -5
After so long of giving we can finally recive 😩
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jun 16, 2021 14:09:54 GMT -5
We could split the 113k, both of us get 56k and we'll leave the remaining thousand to Butter. Can I join in and make it 37k each, and we’ll the remaining 2k can go 1k each to Butter and Blinding Lights!
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kcdawg13
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jun 16, 2021 14:13:20 GMT -5
We could split the 113k, both of us get 56k and we'll leave the remaining thousand to Butter. Can I join in and make it 37k each, and we’ll the remaining 2k can go 1k each to Butter and Blinding Lights! Yeah we can spend the money on the Rosalia remix!
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 16, 2021 14:20:21 GMT -5
It is easy to be generous with other people's money. I'm curious to how the BTS army thinks about being so gullible as to be generous benefactors to subsidize our worthy largess.
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dovahduck
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Post by dovahduck on Jun 16, 2021 14:57:01 GMT -5
We could split the 113k, both of us get 56k and we'll leave the remaining thousand to Butter. Sounds like a plan G 👏
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Post by korbel16 on Jun 16, 2021 15:25:31 GMT -5
Kinda craving an 8 week #2 run for levitating not gunna lie (once butter plummets)
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 16, 2021 15:27:12 GMT -5
Why do you have that particular craving?
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korbel16
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Post by korbel16 on Jun 16, 2021 15:28:22 GMT -5
Why do you have that particular craving? it’d be camp
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Post by mikerivera on Jun 16, 2021 15:41:48 GMT -5
Could BTS fans donate a couple thousand to me Fr and me too Add me in too please. I promise to use all the money to buy every version of Better or whatever the hell the song is called
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Post by campbellssoup on Jun 16, 2021 16:00:36 GMT -5
We’re halfway through June now and Heat Waves is still not a top 20 hit. Hopefully it’ll keep rising on radio, it seems to have incredible longevity with streaming so far having been in the top 20 on Spotify most weeks for a while now. I really thought the “late nights in the middle of June” like would boost this song right about now though.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 16, 2021 16:04:06 GMT -5
Didn't I see some BTS fan account saying they needed to organize and buy at least 113k this week? That prediction is only gonna fuel that need to waste money even more lol. But I do hope g4u finally returns to #1. If fans need to organize as often as and to the extent they do, the music probably isn’t that good.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jun 16, 2021 16:35:40 GMT -5
We’re halfway through June now and Heat Waves is still not a top 20 hit. Hopefully it’ll keep rising on radio, it seems to have incredible longevity with streaming so far having been in the top 20 on Spotify most weeks for a while now. I really thought the “late nights in the middle of June” like would boost this song right about now though. Knowing how radio works here in the US, I fully expect this to peak in the fall, long after Butter and Good 4 u are done battling for the top. Remember a few years ago, Someone You Loved went to #1 here in November, even though it was smashing outside North America during the spring.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 16, 2021 16:41:17 GMT -5
Oh, true. He has mentioned having one before I think. The f5 trick still works too, but just the fact one has to use a trick to see the chart lets you know that info is not intended to be widely used or disseminated. I stand by my original assertion that TOTC should launch their own chart. BB basically deaded all the things that made TOTC stand out from other predictors. I don't have subscription but I use an adblock and can see all of their charts (the ones I'm interested like Top 40, Adult Pop, Rhythmic, Alternative, etc) I've been watching their charts for free on the internet since 2003 so not gonna pay for that now, nope, lol. A trick that works is to stop the page from loading completely, so that the paywall can't kick in. You need to time it right, though.
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Post by oliviafan101 on Jun 16, 2021 17:12:26 GMT -5
TOTC should make their own chart replacing Billboard. Never apologize to any person who legally threatened you and tried to stop you from making a bit of money just for corporatist reasons.
When Billboard tried to do a cease and desist on TOTC, they stopped having any appeal to chart watchers. They hate people who follow music and watch the charts. They love people who spend their life savings to see their favorite artist go #1 on an arbitrary chart, as well as domestic terrorists, insurrectionists, and pdf-files. Billboard can rank any order of songs from 1 to 100 based on an arbitrary set of criteria. Billboard should’ve communicated their chart formula and made it public, so that any chart fraud can be seen. But no, it had to be leaked for the general public for the general public to see chart fraud. For example, I’m sure that Snowflakes didn’t have anywhere close to the points required to be #71, but it charted at that position due to favoritism. Same with all BTS songs. Also, the fact that most of their charts are paywalled is a garbage thing. Those two things show their hate of the average music listener.
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Post by gikem on Jun 16, 2021 17:23:32 GMT -5
I was just about to start work when TOTC tweeted that thread, so I’m just catching up now. Glad at least their Twitter is coming back, and that they’re still allowed to make predictions there. Unfortunately, I don’t expect the website to come back in the same way. This probably includes the GOAT list, which was easily my favorite feature on the site.
I still maintain that I’m not gonna be using the Hot 100 from this point forward as my main chart source, though I will still follow along with Year-End predictions and the content creators I like who do track and analyze the Hot 100, past and present. I would just prefer to follow my own path at this point.
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Post by ontopofthis on Jun 16, 2021 18:46:16 GMT -5
Lol, the lawyers really were not playing because that is similar to a hostage statement
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Gary
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Post by Gary on Jun 16, 2021 19:31:31 GMT -5
Hostages, domestic terrorism, etc. LOL - some of you are taking this way too seriously.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2021 19:43:27 GMT -5
When Billboard tried to do a cease and desist on TOTC, they stopped having any appeal to chart watchers. They hate people who follow music and watch the charts. They love people who spend their life savings to see their favorite artist go #1 on an arbitrary chart, as well as domestic terrorists, insurrectionists, and pdf-files. You have any sources for that?
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