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Post by Abbaschand on Jun 16, 2021 21:51:52 GMT -5
Petition to name TOTC's charts "Talk of OUR Charts".
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Post by Dadude#0839 on Jun 16, 2021 22:09:02 GMT -5
Billboard should hire everyone involved and have them revamp that god awful website. For sure. Their website sucks. Ngl, if I need any chart I just search for it on this forum and it's always a much easier read. Whenever i try to load old chart weeks on the site, it just lags and glitches hard, so i just use youtube videos or this site.
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 17, 2021 1:07:09 GMT -5
While I'm not an expert and annoyed by the lack of data provided by Billboard sometimes, I totally understand why they are protecting their most important product that much. It if was my job, I could do the same, or at least investigate how much it affects the traffic to the website.
I would assume the solution would be to do some cosmetics changes. For instance Acharts have named the US chart on their website as "US SINGLES TOP 100 COMPILED BY: BILLBOARD HOT 100" and Billboard seems to be totally fine with it even though the chart provides chart run graphics that Billboard doesn't provide.
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Jun 17, 2021 1:15:01 GMT -5
I really hope Billboard's team takes into account the suggestions made by TOTC to improve their website. It was so great to have practical access to the full chart run of any song through their GOAT list, with no need to go through each Hot 100 week. Also, further transparency on the data from their part would be another positive development.
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Post by thegreatdivine on Jun 17, 2021 3:17:47 GMT -5
good 4 u back to #1 on US Apple Music. Wants and Needs rises one spot to #4. good 4 u remains at #1 on US Apple Music. Wants and Needs rises two spots to #2.
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 17, 2021 3:24:24 GMT -5
Olivia still 5 songs in top 30 despite three big rap albums coming out in last 2 weeks. Queen of AM!
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Post by nathanalbright on Jun 17, 2021 3:41:16 GMT -5
That, along with her spotify holds, is remarkable.
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Post by iamsorare on Jun 17, 2021 5:07:21 GMT -5
A top 15 hit..let's hope that it will reach #14..
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 17, 2021 5:38:07 GMT -5
Diana Ross has a NEW SINGLE out!!! It's been like 15 years! Obviously won't do anything on Hot 100 but worth noting
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Post by Gary on Jun 17, 2021 5:57:24 GMT -5
I really hope Billboard's team takes into account the suggestions made by TOTC to improve their website. It was so great to have practical access to the full chart run of any song through their GOAT list, with no need to go through each Hot 100 week. Also, further transparency on the data from their part would be another positive development. It is also possible they wonβt do anything at all Proprietyary data is one of their income sources so I donβt seee that changing. Totc. Was in the wrong legally. Not Billboard.
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Post by jdanton2 on Jun 17, 2021 6:04:39 GMT -5
interesting article about radio audience . it is the highest since March of last year.there is more at the link. www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/208483/nielsen-s-may-2021-ppm-survey-indicates-radio-audiNIELSEN's MAY 2021 PPM Survey indicates that radio audiences across AMERICA continue to grow as the nation continues to re-open and consumers return to pre-pandemic routines. According to NIELSEN, radioβs weekly reach is now at its highest levels since MARCH 2020, and has grown during each of the past four months. In MAY 2021, radioβs weekly reach surpassed 122 million weekly listeners, within two million of where it was before the lockdown precautions took effect last year.
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Post by korbel16 on Jun 17, 2021 6:36:11 GMT -5
How does maroon 5 always manage to have a fucking hitβ¦ especially when itβs badβ¦
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Post by Abbaschand on Jun 17, 2021 7:32:58 GMT -5
How does maroon 5 always manage to have a f**king hitβ¦ especially when itβs badβ¦ Nobody's Love and This Summer is a fluke. Maroon 5 is truly forever.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jun 17, 2021 8:23:12 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/06/17
1(=) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak & Silk Sonic - Leave The Door Open 105.07(-1.68) 2(=) Justin Bieber - Peaches (feat. Daniel Caesar & GIVΔON) 101.47(-0.57) 3(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) 98.28(+0.09) 4(=) The Weeknd & Ariana Grande - Save Your Tears (Remix) 71.77(-0.80) 5(=) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More (feat. SZA) 68.65(+1.31) 6(=) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 66.20(-0.83) 7(=) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 64.61(+1.12) 8(=) Ariana Grande - pov 56.78(-0.18) 9(=) Maroon 5 & Megan Thee Stallion - Beautiful Mistakes 54.46(+0.06) 10(=) Luke Combs - Forever After All 52.93(+0.11)
16(=) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 42.67(+0.83) - 20(+1) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 38.56(+1.23) -
22(+1) Jason Aldean - Blame It on You 36.91(+0.81) 24(+1) GIVΔON - Heartbreak Anniversary 35.91(+0.56)
52(+5) Polo G - RAPSTAR 23.58(+0.56) 59(+6) Marshmello & Jonas Brothers - Leave Before You Love Me 22.63(+0.74)
-(-) Roddy Ricch - Late At Night 12.34(+0.84)
-(-) Zac Brown Band - Same Boat 9.51(+0.58)
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Post by code on Jun 17, 2021 8:33:33 GMT -5
They have to start their own chart, their excuse for not doing so is idiotic
You're already doing all the work of a business, just make it official
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Post by GW on Jun 17, 2021 8:43:12 GMT -5
They have to start their own chart, their excuse for not doing so is idiotic You're already doing all the work of a business, just make it official Think about what that chart would be, though. It's basically an estimated Billboard Hot 100. Why would that be deemed valuable after the real Hot 100 comes out? Their entire existence is to literally talk about the charts - predicting based on preliminary data, and then analyzing it once the real charts come out. Plus, in order to have their own legit chart, they would have to have access and license to the data being used, which isn't cheap, or may not even be possible. They'd also have to have their own proprietary formula that the industry wants, which they already have with Billboard. Billboard simply has too much of a stranglehold, based on their history alone. It's like another movie award trying to replace the Oscar. There are obviously a lot of movie awards these days, but one is still THE movie award.
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Post by gikem on Jun 17, 2021 8:47:52 GMT -5
They have to start their own chart, their excuse for not doing so is idiotic You're already doing all the work of a business, just make it official I get the feeling that making their own chart, as cool of an idea as it is, is just not a high priority for them. They reiterated multiple times in their thread yesterday that they did not make their Twitter or website with the explicit intent to replace Billboard, just to serve as a helpful reference for avid chart nerds. Maybe if more people start actively distancing themselves from Billboard for whatever reason, the TOTC team can start something, but the fact that Billboard has the backing of the music industry and were the ones to send the cease-and-desist order to TOTC will make it harder for them to gain that same level of respect beyond their core audience.
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Post by whales10268 on Jun 17, 2021 8:51:05 GMT -5
Any big releases coming tomorrow?
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Post by korbel16 on Jun 17, 2021 8:51:05 GMT -5
They have to start their own chart, their excuse for not doing so is idiotic You're already doing all the work of a business, just make it official i wouldnβt say idioticβ¦ maybe they donβt want to? Itβd be nice and more valuable than the billboard chart because Iβm pretty sure their rules will be very accurate to whatβs popular at the moment.. but like itβs a ton of work
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Post by algo on Jun 17, 2021 8:55:12 GMT -5
levitating is close to hitting #1 on radio. safe to say its not leaving the top ten for a while
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Post by Groovy on Jun 17, 2021 8:57:09 GMT -5
Any big releases coming tomorrow? Nope and we need a week like this.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 17, 2021 9:04:24 GMT -5
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 17, 2021 9:10:46 GMT -5
US Spotify - 06/17/21
1(=) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 2,353,218 (-39,916) 2(=) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 1,329,506 (+15,414) 3(=) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 1,254,101 (-10,288) 4(=) Polo G - RAPSTAR 1,178,694 (-23,137) 5(=) Olivia Rodrigo - traitor 1,170,278 (-16,896) 6(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating 1,014,159 (+19,443) 7(=) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 991,196 (+16,411) 8(+1) Drake - Wants and Needs 932,475 (+2,539) 9(-1) Olivia Rodrigo - favorite crime 908,257 (-29,147) 10(=) Olivia Rodrigo - happier 897,222 (-20,948)
Olivia Rodrigo - SOUR 12(=) brutal 842,912 (-20,820) 13(=) drivers license 809,914 (-16,288) 18(-1) jealousy, jealousy 695,194 (-17,336) 23(-2) enough for you 634,037 (-21,388) 30(-1) 1 step forward, 3 steps back 552,777 (-20,824) 44(-5) hope ur ok 471,668 (-17,134) Total Streams: 10,589,578
Others: 11(=) Bad Bunny - Yonaguni 876,510 (-2,593) 14(+1) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 785,362 (+38,559) 15(-1) Justin Bieber - Peaches 765,777 (+16,819) 16(debut) Tyler, The Creator - LUMBERJACK 730,140 17(-1) Doja Cat - Need to Know 697,200 (-17,571) 19(=) Masked Wolf - Astronaut In The Ocean 684,065 (+12,061) 20(=) WILLOW - t r a n s p a r e n t s o u l 674,566 (+12,221) 21(-3) Megan Thee Stallion - Thot Shit 664,810 (-17,437) 22(=) Rauw Alejandro - Todo De Ti 662,296 (+11,302) 24(+2) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open 626,957 (+13,066) 25(=) BTS - Butter 626,239 (+11,504) 26(-3) Migos - Having Our Way 614,443 (-29,856) 27(+1) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 590,180 (+16,239) 28(-4) Polo G - No Return 576,977 (-42,519) 29(-2) Lorde - Solar Power 560,750 (-24,057) 31(=) Maroon 5 - Beautiful Mistakes 539,410 (+6,242) 32(+1) Giveon - Heartbreak Anniversary 533,524 (+7,961) 33(-3) Polo G - GANG GANG 529,399 (-27,938) 34(-2) Cochise, $NOT - Tell Em 525,551 (-7,459) 35(-1) Trippie Redd - Miss the Rage 517,840 (-4,902) 36(-1) Cardi B - Up 514,534 (+14,456) 37(+1) Saweetie - Best Friend 510,584 (+15,391) 38(-2) J. Cole - m y . l i f e 501,324 (+3,965) 39(+3) Kali Uchis - telepatΓa 481,206 (+11,885) 40(+1) Bella Poarch - Build a Bitch 481,044 (+3,949) 41(-1) Billie Eilish - Lost Cause 478,045 (-2,836) 42(-5) Migos - Straightenin 475,032 (-21,191) 45(=) Roddy Ricch - Late At Night 459,825 (-917) 46(-2) J. Cole - p r i d e . i s . t h e . d e v i l 455,338 (-7,633) 47(=) Luke Combs - Forever After All 453,119 (+15,005) 54(-1) DJ Khaled - EVERY CHANCE I GET 402,369 (-4,517) 55(-3) Lil Tecca - Never Left 396,782 (-11,548) 58(+3) Marshmello - Leave Before You Love Me 388,462 (+18,100) 59(=) Bo Burnham - Welcome to the Internet 386,206 (+2,351) 61(-3) Bo Burnham - All Eyes On Me 379,251 (-4,999) 62(-14) Polo G - Black Hearted 373,401 (-49,607) 65(-3) Surf Curse - Freaks 361,389 (+641) 66(+3) The Kid LAROI - WITHOUT YOU 351,143 (+13,037) 70(-4) MoneyBagg Yo - Wockesha 335,128 (-7,822) 77(+4) Nelly, Florida Georgia Line - Lil Bit 323,475 (+5,655) 78(-14) Migos - Modern Day 323,391 (-28,165) 79(-14) Migos - Avalanche 322,813 (-23,942) 80(-10) Lil Baby, Lil Durk - Hats Off 319,923 (-14,680) 84(+1) Interney Money - His & Hers 313,500 (+6,053) 85(-2) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 312,783 (+4) 86(-6) Kelsea Ballerini, LANY - I Quit Drinking 309,145 (-8,707) 89(-5) Bo Burnham - Look Who's Inside Again 306,620 (-2,985) 98(-1) Matt Maltese - As the World Caves In 293,889 (+541)
103(-1) StarBoi3 - Dick 282,750 (+889) 106(+15) Trinidad Cardona - Dinero 273,794 (+12,781) 107(-2) Bo Burnham - Shit 273,623 (-2,506) 111(-3) BIA - WHOLE LOTTA MONEY 271,567 (-2,190) 114(-3) Los Legendarios, Wisin, Jhay Cortez - Fiel 267,611 (-2,451) 121(-7) Young Stoner Life, Young Thug, Gunna - Ski 261,336 (-5,839) 122(+8) Ryan Hurd - Chasing After You 260,735 (+9,739) 126(+18) Chris Young, Kane Brown - Famous Friends 255,751 (+12,923) 128(-2) Bo Burnham - Goodbye 253,668 (+611) 131(+6) Billie Eilish - Your Power 252,202 (+6,641) 133(+18) Duncan Laurence - Arcade 249,577 (+12,371) 135(+14) Lil Nas X - SUN GOES DOWN 248,140 (+10,229) 148(-7) Burnham - Content 238,681 (-5,705) 149(-2) Bo Burnham - That Funny Feeling 237,655 (-3,972) 158(+19) Dan + Shay - Glad You Exist 230,015 (+8,246) 183(-16) Bo Burnham - Comedy 219,394 (-6,590) 188(-2) Sarah Cothran - As the World Caves In 214,709 (-1,960)
Total Streams for Save Your Tears: 902,963
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Post by whales10268 on Jun 17, 2021 9:18:10 GMT -5
Any big releases coming tomorrow? Nope and we need a week like this.Β Feels like there hasnβt been big releases since Sour and Butter.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jun 17, 2021 9:35:04 GMT -5
Nope and we need a week like this.Β Feels like there hasnβt been big releases since Sour and Butter. It almost feels like weβre entering into the same kind of period post-AATB/SIO, until Taylor released Blank Space. Then the floodgates opened, and we got songs like UF, TOL, Sugar, Earned It, and Trap Queen. After we get through the Butter/Good 4 u period, possibly with a Drake (or even new BTS) release, hopefully we can get a barrage of new music similar to late 2014, and 2022 can be the next 2015.
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Post by Lost In Musical Reverie on Jun 17, 2021 9:40:22 GMT -5
Nope and we need a week like this. Feels like there hasnβt been big releases since Sour and Butter. Next week we'll be getting Doja Cat's "Planet Her" album (including a single with The Weeknd) as well as Ed Sheeran's comeback to shake things up. This week could have led to something with Polo G, Migos, and Lorde's comeback, but nothing had as much staying power as expected.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 17, 2021 9:42:45 GMT -5
Nope and we need a week like this. Feels like there hasnβt been big releases since Sour and Butter. .....we just had Polo G and Migos drop albums to modest impact, plus comeback singles for Lorde, Clairo, Megan, a new single with Doja, and Bad Bunny debuted in the Top 10 this week
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Post by Groovy on Jun 17, 2021 9:46:40 GMT -5
Feels like there hasnβt been big releases since Sour and Butter. .....we just had Polo G and Migos drop albums to modest impact, plus comeback singles for Lorde, Clairo, Megan, a new single with Doja, and Bad Bunny debuted in the Top 10 this week We even had a Lil Durk/Lll Baby album bomb this week, plenty of things had impacted the Hot 100 the past few weeks.
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Post by Groovy on Jun 17, 2021 9:49:14 GMT -5
Speaking of Doja, I guess Kiss Me More's chance at Song of the Summer is out, even though the streaming is still consistent and the radio is continuing to grow, I doubt it'll beat Butter or good 4 u but I could be wrong.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 17, 2021 9:50:13 GMT -5
that's even if Billboard runs their Summer charts. We're 4 chart weeks into Summer and the Summer charts have still not been updated
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