.indulgecountry
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 23, 2021 10:37:01 GMT -5
If using examples like vanilla ice and beastie boys, people who came out over 31 years ago tells me that country music is far more inclusive and accepting than hip-hop music nowadays. Well people who want to dispel the racism of country music usually trot out Charley Pride, the like one historically majorly successful country star pre-2008. But if those examples are too old for you, then let's try Post Malone, Mac Miller, Iggy Azalea, G-Eazy, Jack Harlow... the list goes on. There's more successful white hip-hop artists than successful black country artists. And that's ignoring that your entire argument premise here is basically putting the burden of change on the hip-hop community to allow more white people in before the country industry can respond accordingly and allow an equal number of black people into the genre like it's some sort of scale. The two genres are not tied together in any way and this expectation you apparently have is not only silly but also fundamentally false given the list I provided above.
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Post by zaclord 🌈 on Oct 23, 2021 10:53:54 GMT -5
If using examples like vanilla ice and beastie boys, people who came out over 31 years ago tells me that country music is far more inclusive and accepting than hip-hop music nowadays. The last two #1 hits on the Hot 100 (this week and last week) included billing by the Kid LAROI and Jack Harlow. Sit down. Not to mention Machine Gun Kelly, NF, Logic, Post Malone, G Eazy, Arizona Zervas, Iggy Azalea, Macklemore, and Eminem have all had big hits in the last 10 years. But also, even if you wanted to argue that hip hop wasn't inclusive and diverse, that does not mean that country music shouldn't aim to be better.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 23, 2021 18:20:27 GMT -5
If using examples like vanilla ice and beastie boys, people who came out over 31 years ago tells me that country music is far more inclusive and accepting than hip-hop music nowadays. White people make up the large majority of most genres of music, so the fact that you are choosing to focus on one of the few genres where they may not is very telling of your own bias.
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Post by mnvikings on Oct 23, 2021 18:47:17 GMT -5
If using examples like vanilla ice and beastie boys, people who came out over 31 years ago tells me that country music is far more inclusive and accepting than hip-hop music nowadays. White people make up the large majority of most genres of music, so the fact that you are choosing to focus on one of the few genres where they may not is very telling of your own bias. Rap, hip-hop, modern pop music, disco, reggae, R &B. There’s a handful. I just wanted to mention rap and hip-hop which aren’t very diverse.
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Post by jenglisbe on Oct 23, 2021 19:13:51 GMT -5
White people make up the large majority of most genres of music, so the fact that you are choosing to focus on one of the few genres where they may not is very telling of your own bias. Rap, hip-hop, modern pop music, disco, reggae, R &B. There’s a handful. I just wanted to mention rap and hip-hop which aren’t very diverse. Rap is hip-hop, but ok. And how is modern pop music included here? Lol! Disco was born out of certain cultures, but like with many things, the white mainstream took over. The Bee Gees became the face of disco as much as anyone, but in terms of 'modern day disco' white acts like Dua Lipa and Justin Timberlake make it as much as anyone.
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recordyear
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Post by recordyear on Oct 27, 2021 7:50:52 GMT -5
More performers: Jason Aldean & Carrie Underwood - If I Didn’t Love You Luke Combs Miranda Lambert Old Dominion - I Was on a Boat That Day Chris Stapleton - Cold Chris Young & Kane Brown - Famous Friends
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 1, 2021 20:24:22 GMT -5
There is…a small, small part of me that thinks Adele and Chris Stapleton will perform together at the CMAs this year. She just namedropped him in her newly-released Vogue interview today as a “dream collaborator,” Stapleton liked it on social media (these answers and interviews are planned out well in advance of when they happen), it’d be right in line with her album release, and that just…feels like it could be a thing that happens. IDK. Just a fun prediction I’m making. Who knows. Could help the show’s ever-floundering ratings dilemma. So. Adele just revealed the tracklisting for her full album, and the deluxe version of the album includes “Easy On Me” featuring…Chris Stapleton. Manifest, y’all. EVERYONE GRAB A CANDLE AND FORM A CIRCLE.
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stanches2318
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Post by stanches2318 on Nov 1, 2021 20:47:20 GMT -5
In the words of the song “Why Does It Have To Be Black or White?” It’s kinda of a stable on the Pule Music Board.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Nov 2, 2021 9:18:44 GMT -5
There is…a small, small part of me that thinks Adele and Chris Stapleton will perform together at the CMAs this year. She just namedropped him in her newly-released Vogue interview today as a “dream collaborator,” Stapleton liked it on social media (these answers and interviews are planned out well in advance of when they happen), it’d be right in line with her album release, and that just…feels like it could be a thing that happens. IDK. Just a fun prediction I’m making. Who knows. Could help the show’s ever-floundering ratings dilemma. So. Adele just revealed the tracklisting for her full album, and the deluxe version of the album includes “Easy On Me” featuring…Chris Stapleton. Manifest, y’all. EVERYONE GRAB A CANDLE AND FORM A CIRCLE. Their voices should sound splendid together! If there’s no CMA performance then everyone on all the teams doesn’t know what they’re doing lol
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Post by kamala 2024 truther on Nov 2, 2021 16:06:06 GMT -5
There is…a small, small part of me that thinks Adele and Chris Stapleton will perform together at the CMAs this year. She just namedropped him in her newly-released Vogue interview today as a “dream collaborator,” Stapleton liked it on social media (these answers and interviews are planned out well in advance of when they happen), it’d be right in line with her album release, and that just…feels like it could be a thing that happens. IDK. Just a fun prediction I’m making. Who knows. Could help the show’s ever-floundering ratings dilemma. So. Adele just revealed the tracklisting for her full album, and the deluxe version of the album includes “Easy On Me” featuring…Chris Stapleton. Manifest, y’all. EVERYONE GRAB A CANDLE AND FORM A CIRCLE. It's bad enough that this wasn't instantly put on country radio along with the regular version of the song on other formats, but if they don't perform together at the CMAs then what was the point.
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christianlarson9
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Post by christianlarson9 on Nov 2, 2021 17:37:33 GMT -5
Well it makes sense why Chris Stapleton is performing "Cold"... He submitted it across the board at the Grammy Awards except for Best Country Solo Performance (he submitted You Should Probably Leave in that category).
Great song and the CMAs will be great campaigning for it.
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Post by countrymancarriefan on Nov 3, 2021 11:47:21 GMT -5
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Post by christianlarson9 on Nov 3, 2021 14:09:29 GMT -5
Does anyone know when “Musical Event” & “Music Video” winners will be announced? IIRC, those category winners are usually announced before the ceremony.
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Post by countrymancarriefan on Nov 3, 2021 14:16:45 GMT -5
They’re usually announced on GMA the morning of the big show!! Does anyone know when “Musical Event” & “Music Video” winners will be announced? IIRC, those category winners are usually announced before the ceremony.
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christianlarson9
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Post by christianlarson9 on Nov 3, 2021 14:55:40 GMT -5
Gotcha. Thanks!
Side note, does anyone have their final predictions? I'm excited to see who everyone has for their winner picks!
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Post by christianlarson9 on Nov 3, 2021 15:42:31 GMT -5
Here are my final predictions!
Entertainer of the Year: Carrie Underwood Female Vocalist of the Year: Miranda Lambert Male Vocalist of the Year: Chris Stapleton Vocal Group of the Year: Old Dominion Vocal Duo of the Year: Brothers Osborne New Artist of the Year: Gabby Barrett Album of the Year: "Starting Over" - Chris Stapleton Song of the Year: "Forever After All" - Luke Combs Single of the Year: "The Good Ones" - Gabby Barrett Musical Event of the Year: "Chasing After You" - Ryan Hurd & Maren Morris Music Video of the Year: "Younger Me" - Brothers Osborne
Alternate picks: Entertainer of the Year: Eric Church Female Vocalist of the Year: Carly Pearce Male Vocalist of the Year: Luke Combs Vocal Group of the Year: Lady A Vocal Duo of the Year: Dan + Shay New Artist of the Year: Mickey Guyton Album of the Year: "Heart" - Eric Church Song of the Year: "Starting Over" - Chris Stapleton Single of the Year: "Famous Friends" - Chris Young & Kane Brown Musical Event of the Year: "Famous Friends" - Chris Young & Kane Brown Music Video of the Year: "Half Of My Hometown" - Kelsea Ballerini ft. Kenny Chesney
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Post by recordyear on Nov 4, 2021 7:47:19 GMT -5
Third wave of CMA Awards performers: Gabby Barrett - The Good Ones Dierks Bentley, BRELAND, HARDY - Beers On Me Luke Bryan - Up Jennifer Hudson Thomas Rhett - Country Again Keith Urban - Wild Hearts Zac Brown Band - Same Boat
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Post by 14887fan on Nov 4, 2021 9:58:50 GMT -5
Jennifer Hudson…?
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Post by recordyear on Nov 4, 2021 10:04:51 GMT -5
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christianlarson9
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Post by christianlarson9 on Nov 4, 2021 11:58:54 GMT -5
I love Jennifer Hudson, but I find it extremely unfair that she gets to perform over artists who are actually nominated...
Also anyone know if the final round of performers will be for collaborations? It seems like that's when they would announce Chris & Adele, Ryan & Maren, Jordan & Luke, Elle & Miranda and Kelsea & Kenny?
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Post by stanches2318 on Nov 4, 2021 15:46:10 GMT -5
These are the winners I want to win.
Entertainer: Carrie Underwood Male: Luke Combs Female: Gabby Barrett Group: Old Dominion Duo: Brothers Osborne New: Gabby Barrett Single: “The Good Ones” Gabby Barrett Song: “The Good Ones” Gabby Barrett Album “Dangerous” Morgan Wallen Vocal Event “Famous Friends” Chris Young, Kane Brown Video: “Half Of My Hometown” Kelsea Ballerini, (Background Vocals- Kenny Chesney)
Who I think will win
Entertainer: Luke Combs Male: Luke Combs Female: Maren Morris Group: Lady A Duo: Dan + Shay New: Gabby Barrett Single: “The Good Ones” Gabby Barrett Song: “Forever After All” Luke Combs Album: “Starting Over” Chris Stapleton Vocal: “Chasing After You” Ryan Hurd, Maren Morris Video: “Younger Me” Brothers Osborne
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Post by 3chords on Nov 4, 2021 17:33:11 GMT -5
I love Jennifer Hudson, but I find it extremely unfair that she gets to perform over artists who are actually nominated... Also anyone know if the final round of performers will be for collaborations? It seems like that's when they would announce Chris & Adele, Ryan & Maren, Jordan & Luke, Elle & Miranda and Kelsea & Kenny? I don’t think Elle & Miranda are doing Drunk since they did it kinda at its peak at ACMs and Elle seems pretty cozy on her farm with her newborn atm. Since Kelsea wasn’t nominated for anything idk if she’d be performing? They do usually announce some the week of though so who knows.
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Post by Troublemaker on Nov 4, 2021 18:18:59 GMT -5
I love Jennifer Hudson, but I find it extremely unfair that she gets to perform over artists who are actually nominated... Also anyone know if the final round of performers will be for collaborations? It seems like that's when they would announce Chris & Adele, Ryan & Maren, Jordan & Luke, Elle & Miranda and Kelsea & Kenny? I don’t think Elle & Miranda are doing Drunk since they did it kinda at its peak at ACMs and Elle seems pretty cozy on her farm with her newborn atm. Since Kelsea wasn’t nominated for anything idk if she’d be performing? They do usually announce some the week of though so who knows. Half of my hometown says hi. It’s nominated in 2 categories
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Post by 3chords on Nov 4, 2021 18:36:00 GMT -5
I don’t think Elle & Miranda are doing Drunk since they did it kinda at its peak at ACMs and Elle seems pretty cozy on her farm with her newborn atm. Since Kelsea wasn’t nominated for anything idk if she’d be performing? They do usually announce some the week of though so who knows. Half of my hometown says hi. It’s nominated in 2 categories Oh gosh sorry I was only thinking about female. Then weird it’s probably a Kenny thing.
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Post by stanches2318 on Nov 4, 2021 19:01:55 GMT -5
Could Hudson be singing for Ray Charles since he just got announced as a country Hall Of Famer?
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Post by countrymancarriefan on Nov 4, 2021 20:24:58 GMT -5
Oooo a Ray Charles tribute from JHud could actually be a whole dang moment! And the more I think about it, there have to be some performances yet to be announced! Weren’t Beyoncé and The Chicks announced like an hour before the 50th CMA Awards???
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Post by 3chords on Nov 5, 2021 12:50:05 GMT -5
anyone know what Combs is singing?
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Post by christianlarson9 on Nov 5, 2021 13:14:14 GMT -5
anyone know what Combs is singing? Probably "Forever After All" since he did "Cold As You" last year.
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Post by mnvikings on Nov 5, 2021 14:15:07 GMT -5
anyone know what Combs is singing? Probably "Forever After All" since he did "Cold As You" last year. He's already sang that song twice, Acm awards, and Artists of the year, so he might sing something completely different.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Nov 5, 2021 16:37:27 GMT -5
Ryan Hurd and Maren Morris' pre-taped performance of "Chasing After You" will air the same night as the CMA's on Kimmel. Assuming a few more performers are announced, we could potentially be getting 2 performances of "Chasing After You" that night!
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