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Post by 14887fan on Sept 9, 2021 9:40:35 GMT -5
Tea @ the FVOTY category. Very interesting. Wouldn’t shock me in the slightest if CU’s team really was just saying “screw all the other categories this year, just get her EOTY.”
Was not expecting so much Gabby Barrett love, but maybe she really is here to stay. Overall, nothing majorly surprising here, beyond no CU in Female for the first time since 2006.
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Post by mnvikings on Sept 9, 2021 10:26:26 GMT -5
What is the case for one night standards making it for single of the year over a song like die from a broken heart?
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Post by christianlarson9 on Sept 9, 2021 10:31:50 GMT -5
I feel like Gabby is gonna be in Maren's shoes this year and clean up 2-3 awards. New Artist and Single feel like locks and if they're feeling generous, I could see them giving her Song although I really think Luke is gonna get it since he was shut out of Single. I think she has a shot at Female, but I think she's too new for that award. I think it's between Miranda, Maren and Carly.
I do feel like people are underestimating Maren this year in Female Vocalist. If there's one takeaway from her nominations this year is that even on a quiet year, she's still a pretty strong force during award season and I think she's earned that Miranda/Carrie type of spot of being a well-established act nominated in the category for the next few years.
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Post by country11 on Sept 9, 2021 10:32:14 GMT -5
I was surprised Kelsea was left out of FV. She had a much bigger year than Maren Morris. Also don’t see how Luke Combs doesn’t at least have one nomination for single. I know not many fans of it on here probably, but I figured “Drinkin Beer, Talkin God, Amen” would have something whether event or single. Usually don’t care about musical event, but there were so many good collaborations this year I’m sorta surprised that “Buy Dirt” would get a nomination over Jameson Rodgers and Luke Combs. He’s an awards show magnet, but the Chris Stapleton love is getting old to me. There were definitely bigger singles and songs than “Starting Over”. I would’ve thought “Country Again” and “Things a Man Oughta Know” over “Starting Over” or “Hell of a View”. Knew it was a long shot, but was really hoping Alan Jackson would get a nod for his album. Also though Kenny Chesney had a shot at male vocalist over Dierks Bentley.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Sept 9, 2021 10:43:11 GMT -5
I was surprised Kelsea was left out of FV. She had a much bigger year than Maren Morris. Also don’t see how Luke Combs doesn’t at least have one nomination for single. I know not many fans of it on here probably, but I figured “Drinkin Beer, Talkin God, Amen” would have something whether event or single. Usually don’t care about musical event, but there were so many good collaborations this year I’m sorta surprised that “Buy Dirt” would get a nomination over Jameson Rodgers and Luke Combs. He’s an awards show magnet, but the Chris Stapleton love is getting old to me. There were definitely bigger singles and songs than “Starting Over”. I would’ve thought “Country Again” and “Things a Man Oughta Know” over “Starting Over” or “Hell of a View”. Knew it was a long shot, but was really hoping Alan Jackson would get a nod for his album. Also though Kenny Chesney had a shot at male vocalist over Dierks Bentley. Kelsea is on an independent label, so she's at a huge disadvantage when it comes to awards. I think we all agree she deserved a nomination there though. As for Luke, I think "Better Together" and "Forever After All" ended up splitting votes.
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Post by country11 on Sept 9, 2021 11:10:33 GMT -5
I was surprised Kelsea was left out of FV. She had a much bigger year than Maren Morris. Also don’t see how Luke Combs doesn’t at least have one nomination for single. I know not many fans of it on here probably, but I figured “Drinkin Beer, Talkin God, Amen” would have something whether event or single. Usually don’t care about musical event, but there were so many good collaborations this year I’m sorta surprised that “Buy Dirt” would get a nomination over Jameson Rodgers and Luke Combs. He’s an awards show magnet, but the Chris Stapleton love is getting old to me. There were definitely bigger singles and songs than “Starting Over”. I would’ve thought “Country Again” and “Things a Man Oughta Know” over “Starting Over” or “Hell of a View”. Knew it was a long shot, but was really hoping Alan Jackson would get a nod for his album. Also though Kenny Chesney had a shot at male vocalist over Dierks Bentley. Kelsea is on an independent label, so she's at a huge disadvantage when it comes to awards. I think we all agree she deserved a nomination there though. As for Luke, I think "Better Together" and "Forever After All" ended up splitting votes. I forget about the her being on an independent label, but that makes sense. As far as Luke Combs I’m pretty sure he’s had multiple nominations in a category before hasn’t he? “FAA” was for sure single in my mind so I’m just surprised lol.
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Post by 14887fan on Sept 9, 2021 11:46:33 GMT -5
Oh snap. Just now realizing that Marfa Tapes were left out.
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Post by CoJoFan on Sept 9, 2021 12:25:27 GMT -5
My picks
Entertainer - Eric Church Male Vocalist - Luke Combs Female Vocalist - Miranda Lambert Group - Old Dominion Duo - Dan + Shay New Artist - Gabby Barrett Song - Forever After All Single - Famous Friends Album - Skeletons Musical Event - Famous Friends
Not gonna guess music video because I don’t watch music videos anymore. Also have to say on Single of the Year I would not be opposed to The Good Ones winning and I wouldn’t be surprised to see Gabby or Carly take home Female Vocalist either.
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Post by zdm1998 on Sept 9, 2021 12:35:34 GMT -5
I could see them giving female to Maren, but I hope that doesn’t happen. I remember I got really bitter when they gave Miranda female in years where her competition did a lot more.
I do echo that I could have seen Carrie’s team really only caring about EOTY. Carrie probably couldn’t care less if she ever gets in female again. At this point I think she just wants EOTY and will likely stop attending all together if she receives it (like Kenny did), which honestly who could blame her after all she’s given and received so little in return.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Sept 9, 2021 13:00:23 GMT -5
I could see them giving female to Maren, but I hope that doesn’t happen. I remember I got really bitter when they gave Miranda female in years where her competition did a lot more. I do echo that I could have seen Carrie’s team really only caring about EOTY. Carrie probably couldn’t care less if she ever gets in female again. At this point I think she just wants EOTY and will likely stop attending all together if she receives it (like Kenny did), which honestly who could blame her after all she’s given and received so little in return. 100% … get that title and get out before they get de-networked, too! Not that I think she’ll have animosity towards them or anything like that, but clearly she’s being pushed into “legacy” status so her window for this is closing. I really hope she wins this. As a fan there has never been an award I wanted more for Carrie, and I have to believe she really wants it too. Fingers crossed!
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Post by christianlarson9 on Sept 9, 2021 13:29:58 GMT -5
Kelsea is on an independent label, so she's at a huge disadvantage when it comes to awards. I think we all agree she deserved a nomination there though. As for Luke, I think "Better Together" and "Forever After All" ended up splitting votes. I forget about the her being on an independent label, but that makes sense. As far as Luke Combs I’m pretty sure he’s had multiple nominations in a category before hasn’t he? “FAA” was for sure single in my mind so I’m just surprised lol. Last year he was nominated twice in Song of the Year, but the 2nd nomination was a songwriting on "I Hope You're Happy Now".
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Post by christianlarson9 on Sept 9, 2021 15:55:09 GMT -5
Here is an updated list of the most nominated Female Artists in CMA Award history. Maren Morris officially joins the Top 10 this year! 1. Miranda Lambert (58) 2. Reba McEntire (51) 3. Dolly Parton (44) 4. Loretta Lynn (39) 5. Carrie Underwood (36) 6. Martina McBride (30) 7. Tammy Wynette (27) 8. Emmylou Harris (24) 9. Taylor Swift (24) 10. Maren Morris (24) Note: I chose not to include females in bands and didn't combine any production/songwriting nominations for these artists. That will be a separate list
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Post by bboat11 on Sept 9, 2021 16:10:27 GMT -5
I could see them giving female to Maren, but I hope that doesn’t happen. I remember I got really bitter when they gave Miranda female in years where her competition did a lot more. I do echo that I could have seen Carrie’s team really only caring about EOTY. Carrie probably couldn’t care less if she ever gets in female again. At this point I think she just wants EOTY and will likely stop attending all together if she receives it (like Kenny did), which honestly who could blame her after all she’s given and received so little in return. 100% … get that title and get out before they get de-networked, too! Not that I think she’ll have animosity towards them or anything like that, but clearly she’s being pushed into “legacy” status so her window for this is closing. I really hope she wins this. As a fan there has never been an award I wanted more for Carrie, and I have to believe she really wants it too. Fingers crossed! I mean, didn't Keith Urban win Entertainer a couple years ago? Theoretically as long as Carrie completely changes her style in a few years and spends her 50s releasing the shittiest music we've ever heard, that option should be available to her as well!! But then again, Keith has external gonads, so...
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Post by carrieidol1 on Sept 9, 2021 16:48:19 GMT -5
100% … get that title and get out before they get de-networked, too! Not that I think she’ll have animosity towards them or anything like that, but clearly she’s being pushed into “legacy” status so her window for this is closing. I really hope she wins this. As a fan there has never been an award I wanted more for Carrie, and I have to believe she really wants it too. Fingers crossed! I mean, didn't Keith Urban win Entertainer a couple years ago? Theoretically as long as Carrie completely changes her style in a few years and spends her 50s releasing the s**ttiest music we've ever heard, that option should be available to her as well!! But then again, Keith has external gonads, so... Unfortunately it is a different game for women, at least historically. I do think Carrie’s omission in FVOTY signifies an acknowledgment by the CMA voters that she is overdue and deserving of EOTY, otherwise I think she would’ve been in both. In other words, Carrie’s single nomination seems to indicate, imo, that voters are almost going out of their way to include her and give her a chance at EOTY; the nomination is seemingly intentional. Otherwise, she would’ve had other nominations or no nominations at all. I’m sure this theory is flawed, but it just seems this situation may actually benefit Carrie’s chances as there’s no consolation prize (like 2016 - FVOTY), and the result seems extra intentional as it’s her only one in a year when she could’ve easily been completely omitted, apparently.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Sept 9, 2021 21:02:56 GMT -5
Was doing some research out of boredom… of the EOTY nominees, this is their history in the category.
Eric Church: 5 nominations, 1 win (2020) 2015, 2017, 2019, 2020, 2021
Miranda Lambert: 5 nominations 2010, 2014, 2015, 2020, 2021
Chris Stapleton: 5 nominations 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2021
Carrie Underwood: 4 nominations 2016, 2019, 2020, 2021
Luke Combs: 2 nominations 2020, 2021
Also, only one of these people have won ACM EOTY, and she’s won it 3 times (awarded in 2009, 2010, 2020). Go figure!
This is also the first year an artist to debut before 2000 has not been nominated, for that matter - any artist to debut before 2005! The turn of the century seems more impressive to point out, I think.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2021 21:26:39 GMT -5
Cute, Dierks still got his token MV nod. He should send Morgan Wallen a gift basket.
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Post by tim on Sept 10, 2021 1:59:38 GMT -5
Here are my initial predictions:
Entertainer of the Year: Eric Church (I still don't think this is Carrie's year unfortunately...) Female Vocalist of the Year: Miranda Lambert Male Vocalist of the Year: Luke Combs Album of the Year: Starting Over - Chris Stapleton Song of the Year: "Starting Over" - Chris Stapleton and Mike Henderson Single of the Year: "The Good Ones" - Gabby Barrett Vocal Group of the Year: Old Dominion Vocal Duo of the Year: Brothers Osborne Vocal Event of the Year: "Famous Friends" - Chris Young with Kane Brown Music Video of the Year: "Younger Me" - Brothers Osborne New Artist of the Year: HARDY
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Post by christianlarson9 on Sept 10, 2021 10:05:40 GMT -5
My early predictions
Entertainer of the Year: Carrie Underwood Female Vocalist of the Year: I can see any of the nominees winning except Ashley McBryde Male Vocalist of the Year: Luke Combs or Chris Stapleton Vocal Group of the Year: Old Dominion Vocal Duo of the Year: Brothers Osborne New Artist of the Year: Gabby Barrett Album of the Year: Starting Over Song of the Year: Starting Over or Forever After All Single of the Year: The Good Ones Vocal Event of the Year: Famous Friends Music Video of the Year: Chasing After You
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2021 0:27:26 GMT -5
I hope someone at the CMA’s is smart enough to get Walker Hayes to perform “Fancy Like” and capitalize on its popularity. I’d have him open the show.
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Post by recordyear on Sept 11, 2021 0:38:27 GMT -5
I hope someone at the CMA’s is smart enough to get Walker Hayes to perform “Fancy Like” and capitalize on its popularity. I’d have him open the show. You know the opening of the award shows usually has the lowest viewership, right?
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Post by someguy on Sept 11, 2021 0:45:58 GMT -5
Not surprised at all that Carrie was left off of the Female Vocalist list, but I thought it would be for a veteran artist rather than a new artist. FVOTY seems like Miranda's to lose at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2021 1:13:00 GMT -5
I hope someone at the CMA’s is smart enough to get Walker Hayes to perform “Fancy Like” and capitalize on its popularity. I’d have him open the show. You know the opening of the award shows usually has the lowest viewership, right? What better way to get more eyeballs watching. Promote that he will kick off the show. Regardless of where in the show he performs it, it would be smart to get him.
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Post by stanches2318 on Sept 11, 2021 2:31:09 GMT -5
At least if you’re gonna leave out Carrie for FVOTY then Kelsea should’ve been the one to replace her.
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Post by tim on Sept 11, 2021 2:43:54 GMT -5
At least if you’re gonna leave out Carrie for FVOTY then Kelsea should’ve been the one to replace her. Sounds simple enough, but as discussed above Kelsea is on an independent label (for right or wrong). I myself am just happy to see this category become so competitive yet again as it (and the artists) so deserve it to be.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Sept 11, 2021 12:12:22 GMT -5
FVOTY is going to be super competitive next year, so I'm sure next year there will be even more snubs since Carrie, Miranda, Maren, Carly and Kelsea will likely all have projects out during the eligibility window and Kacey is back in contention since she dropped "star-crossed". Not sure if Ashley or Gabby will be dropping projects though since I haven't heard or seen anything related to them.
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Post by daddy on Sept 13, 2021 10:08:47 GMT -5
FVOTY is going to be super competitive next year, so I'm sure next year there will be even more snubs since Carrie, Miranda, Maren, Carly and Kelsea will likely all have projects out during the eligibility window and Kacey is back in contention since she dropped "star-crossed". Not sure if Ashley or Gabby will be dropping projects though since I haven't heard or seen anything related to them. Kacey is one of my favourite artists and I adore her and her music, but I don’t think she should be nominated at a country awards show these days.
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Post by 14887fan on Sept 13, 2021 18:38:24 GMT -5
FVOTY is going to be super competitive next year, so I'm sure next year there will be even more snubs since Carrie, Miranda, Maren, Carly and Kelsea will likely all have projects out during the eligibility window and Kacey is back in contention since she dropped "star-crossed". Not sure if Ashley or Gabby will be dropping projects though since I haven't heard or seen anything related to them. Kacey is one of my favourite artists and I adore her and her music, but I don’t think she should be nominated at a country awards show these days. why tho
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Post by daddy on Sept 13, 2021 20:05:06 GMT -5
Kacey is one of my favourite artists and I adore her and her music, but I don’t think she should be nominated at a country awards show these days. why tho She doesn’t seem to be promoting this album to a country audience, which makes sense considering the content. Let’s see as the album promotion continues.
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Post by 14887fan on Sept 13, 2021 22:39:26 GMT -5
She doesn’t seem to be promoting this album to a country audience, which makes sense considering the content. Let’s see as the album promotion continues. I don’t know what it means to promote something to a country audience, besides sending songs to country radio. Country artists go on late night talk shows, perform at awards shows, etc. — same as what she’s doing.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Sept 13, 2021 22:59:25 GMT -5
She's not really marketing it as a country album though. While I don't think this is a full-on transition to Pop, it is definitely more of a pop-leaning record compared to her previous work. She even said herself that this album "has a sprinkle of Country"... Aside from that, I do think she'll end up nominated for Female Vocalist and Album of the Year (maybe Video of the Year).
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