Verisimilitude
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Post by Verisimilitude on Jul 16, 2021 9:37:56 GMT -5
SiriusXM's new limited engagement channel Billboard Top 500 Summer Hits will highlight the biggest all-time songs of the summer. The channel will celebrate the hottest summer hits from 1958 through 2020 based on the Billboard Hot 100 chart, featuring artists such as The Beatles, Mariah Carey, Bee Gees, Drake, Elton John, Madonna, Katy Perry, Elvis Presley, Rihanna, Rolling Stones, Usher and Donna Summer. From Friday through July 30, SiriusXM channel 104 and the SiriusXM app will count down the songs that made the warm weather worth it over the past six decades and will eventually announce the most popular song of the summer over the last 62 years of the Hot 100 chart's history. The countdown will be available on demand in the SiriusXM app from July 30 to Aug. 13, with the full charts being posted via Billboard.com on Aug. 16 Hosts from multiple SiriusXM decade channels will moderate Billboard Top 500 Summer Hits, which will also highlight new songs from the summer of 2021. Billboard recently brought back its Songs of the Summer chart, where BTS' "Butter" is continuing its hot streak for a fourth consecutive week. The 20-position summery summary tracks the most popular titles based on cumulative performance on the weekly streaming-, airplay- and sales-based Hot 100 chart from Memorial Day through Labor Day (this year encompassing charts dated June 12 through Sept. 11). At the end of the season, the top song of the summer will be revealed. Also premiering Friday is Samsung and Billboard's first-ever Songs of the Summer concert, which includes performances by headliners Saweetie and Justine Skye. Find all the details on how to watch here. Billboard Top 500 Summer Hits will premiere on a limited-run SiriusXM channel, which can be accessed here: player.siriusxm.com/
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 17, 2021 11:14:15 GMT -5
Probably not surprising, since it was unavoidable on radio that summer:
By Gary Trust 7/17/2021
The smash by Puff Daddy & Faith Evans, featuring 112, ruled the Billboard Hot 100 in the summer of 1997.
"I'll Be Missing You," by Puff Daddy and Faith Evans, featuring 112, claims the coveted top spot on SiriusXM's Billboard Top 500 Summer Hits countdown.
The all-star collaboration, a tribute to the late Notorious B.I.G. (Evans' husband), ruled the Billboard Hot 100 chart for 11 weeks in 1997, wrapping as that summer's biggest song. The Hot 100 success of the single, which interpolates The Police's "Every Breath You Take," powers its No. 1 rank on SiriusXM's new limited engagement channel Billboard Top 500 Summer Hits.
"Puff said he wanted to make the biggest tribute record that's ever been done," Evans said on SiriusXM as the countdown's No. 1 song was revealed.
The Billboard Top 500 Summer Hits channel is celebrating the hottest summer hits from 1958 through 2020 based on Hot 100 chart data, featuring artists such as The Beatles, Bee Gees, Mariah Carey, Drake, Elton John, Madonna, Katy Perry, Elvis Presley, Rihanna, The Rolling Stones, Usher and Donna Summer.
Joining Puff Daddy (aka Diddy, born Sean Combs), Evans and vocal group 112 in the top 10 of the Billboard Top 500 Summer Hits spotlight are fellow summer smashes by Brandy and Monica, Andy Gibb, Lil Nas X, Prince and the Revolution and more.
After launching Friday (July 16) and running through July 30, Billboard Top 500 Summer Hits on SiriusXM channel 104 and the SiriusXM app is counting down the songs that made summers feel even hotter over the past six decades-plus. You can also listen to the countdown on-demand in the SiriusXM app from July 30 to Aug. 13, with the full chart to post on Billboard.com Aug. 16.
Plus, check out the top 10 summer songs every year throughout the Hot 100's history (from the chart's start in 1958) and Billboard's weekly Songs of the Summer chart in its entirety.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 17, 2021 11:26:46 GMT -5
Disagree with I'll Be Missing You being #1 on that list. The fact it was overshadowed by CITW 1997 (on the Year End list) and HDIL (on the all-time list) should have eliminated it from #1, in my opinion. #1 should have been Despacito or The Boy is Mine. Those songs dominated their respective summers (was #1 all weeks from June through August), and I'd even give the edge to Despacito since it also copped a week in both May and September, outside of the summer period.
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Enyasurvivor
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Post by Enyasurvivor on Jul 17, 2021 14:05:37 GMT -5
Wait, so this chart uses the Hot 100 points and not fan votes like the other crappy SiriusXM holiday countdowns? Count me in!
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 17, 2021 14:12:03 GMT -5
I like that this list would be based on pure chart points, which works, but is there a good summer chart that has summer-sounding songs anywhere? It’s strange to me that the biggest summer song of all time is a tribute for someone’s passing.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 17, 2021 14:41:44 GMT -5
Wait, so this chart uses the Hot 100 points and not fan votes like the other crappy SiriusXM holiday countdowns? Count me in! I wonder if the cutoff year was before 2017. If it isn't, then the #1 should be Despacito and not I'll Be Missing You. Despacito had 60k points every week during the summer of '17, and was #1 for each of the 13 weeks from June-August. IBMY missed 2 weeks at #1 (June 7 and August 30). Plus, Despacito (33) is ranked higher on the 2018 Billboard all-time list than IBMY (105). This isn't even mentioning the fact that 2 songs from the summer of 1997 (CITW and HDIL) ended up being bigger hits than IBMY. Heck, even The Boy Is Mine, which was #1 all 13 weeks during the summer of 1998, beats out IBMY on both the 90s decade end (TBIM 8 vs. IBMY 10) and all-time (TBIM 70 vs. IBMY 105) lists. No way IBMY should have been #1 (or even #2).
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Post by Gary on Jul 17, 2021 15:07:17 GMT -5
Those who read two posts up probably saw that you posted the exact same complaint twice.
Same answer as other things that are fixated on. Did Billboard make an error? or do we just not fully understand the formulas they are using or the chart rules or whatever?
Either way probably a good list, I canceled my Sirius account before I knew about this so I will wait the month before the full chart is poated
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Post by Henry Suárez on Jul 17, 2021 15:28:35 GMT -5
Ohh this chart could be interesting! Will someone post it here? Now I'd also like to see the all-time hits from winter, spring and fall, lol.
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Post by Gary on Jul 17, 2021 15:33:00 GMT -5
Unless someone listens to the whole show. August 16
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 17, 2021 15:47:13 GMT -5
Ohh this chart could be interesting! Will someone post it here? Now I'd also like to see the all-time hits from winter, spring and fall, lol. Here are my all-time #1 hits for each season: Winter: One Sweet Day (#1 all 13 weeks from December 1995-February 1996) Spring: Yeah (#1 for 11 out of 13 weeks from March-May 2004) Summer: Despacito (#1 all 13 weeks from June-August 2017) Fall: I'll Make Love to You (#1 all 13 weeks from September-November 1994)
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Post by Henry Suárez on Jul 17, 2021 21:33:43 GMT -5
Ohh this chart could be interesting! Will someone post it here? Now I'd also like to see the all-time hits from winter, spring and fall, lol. Here are my all-time #1 hits for each season: Winter: One Sweet Day (#1 all 13 weeks from December 1995-February 1996) Spring: Yeah (#1 for 11 out of 13 weeks from March-May 2004) Summer: Despacito (#1 all 13 weeks from June-August 2017) Fall: I'll Make Love to You (#1 all 13 weeks from September-November 1994) Yeah, your choices seems to be spot on, One Sweet Day must be the biggest winter hit of all-time! I remember, year 2 of college, back in summer 2017, Despacito was everywhere! but I guess the formula Billboard used gave more points to I'll Be Missing You so that's why it ended up being the biggest summer song of all-time.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 18, 2021 10:25:41 GMT -5
^Yeah. I think they probably used the Greatest of All Time Hot 100 formula which weighted some of the prior eras more heavily. I wouldn't be surprised if the 1990s had the upper hand, especially since it was then, in general terms, that songs started to get 10 or weeks at #1, although not necessarily during the summer.
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Post by Enyasurvivor on Aug 5, 2021 13:12:55 GMT -5
Anyone know how to listen to this on-demand? It says it's available until August 13th but I can't find it anywhere
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Aug 5, 2021 13:31:29 GMT -5
^Yeah. I think they probably used the Greatest of All Time Hot 100 formula which weighted some of the prior eras more heavily. I wouldn't be surprised if the 1990s had the upper hand, especially since it was then, in general terms, that songs started to get 10 or weeks at #1, although not necessarily during the summer. Is the Greatest of All Time Hot 100 formula the one that produced Whitney Houston’s IWALY at #1 on the 1994 list?
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Post by 85la on Aug 6, 2021 11:46:53 GMT -5
Disagree with I'll Be Missing You being #1 on that list. The fact it was overshadowed by CITW 1997 (on the Year End list) and HDIL (on the all-time list) should have eliminated it from #1, in my opinion. #1 should have been Despacito or The Boy is Mine. Those songs dominated their respective summers (was #1 all weeks from June through August), and I'd even give the edge to Despacito since it also copped a week in both May and September, outside of the summer period. CITW 1997 didn't even chart during Billboard's summer-charting period (it was released after Labor Day), and HDIL, while it did chart during the period, didn't reach #1 during that (or any) time, so it couldn't have competed with IBMY's 11 weeks at #1. The fact that they ranked higher on all-time lists has no bearing to the fact that they just didn't chart as well during that specific summer period. For Despacito and TBIM, which did rank at #1 for most or all of their respective summers and more weeks overall at #1, I'm not quite sure why IBMY beat them, I'm guessing that maybe all of their weeks at #1 didn't exactly occur for all the summer-charting weeks, and maybe there were some weeks when they ranked much lower, or possibly Billboard saw it fair to down-weigh those years a bit, as they always do due to different charting trends and rules in place over the years, and when they tallied up all the points (which was probably the inverse method) they just ended up falling short. Keep in mind that this is also a statistical list, based solely on chart positions, not whatever "feels" like should have been the biggest hit.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Apr 21, 2022 23:14:26 GMT -5
2021 all-time list ranking
I'll Be Missing You: Not Top 100 The Boy Is Mine: 78 Tossin and Turnin: 40 Blurred Lines: 57 Despacito: 37
Span of #1 run
I'll Be Missing You: June 14-August 23 The Boy Is Mine: June 5-August 29 Tossin and Turning: July 10-August 21 Blurred Lines: June 22-September 7 Despacito: May 27-September 9
It's clear as day that Despacito should be ranked #1 on this list. It ranks highest on the all-time list, and its time at #1 outspans the other songs. This isn't even taking into consideration that airplay only songs were ineligible to chart in 1997 and 1998, which could have taken away some weeks at #1 away from I'll Be Missing You and The Boy Is Mine.
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