Billboard Hot 100: 09/25/2021

[Groovy]

Stay overtook Bad Habits as the top spot on radio on Kworb.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates 2021/09/17

1(+1) The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber - STAY 95.25(+0.83)
2(-1) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 95.11(+0.45)
3(=) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 87.84(+0.11)

4(=) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More (feat. SZA) 82.52(-0.28)
5(=) Dua Lipa - Levitating (feat. DaBaby) 73.04(-0.19)
6(=) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 61.53(-1.74)
7(=) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 57.49(-0.23)
8(=) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 57.25(-0.05)
9(=) Doja Cat & The Weeknd - You Right 55.66(-0.25)
10(=) Duncan Laurence - Arcade (feat. FLETCHER) 53.61(-0.68)

12(=) Lil Nas X & Jack Harlow - INDUSTRY BABY 50.90(+1.35)

13(=) Wizkid - Essence (feat. Tems) 49.07(+0.79)

15(=) Lainey Wilson - Things A Man Oughta Know 44.31(+0.81)

18(+1) Måneskin - Beggin 40.06(+0.80)

22(+2) Jameson Rodgers - Cold Beer Calling...f/L. Combs 37.38(+0.83)

38(+2) Walker Hayes - Fancy Like 27.36(+1.17)

61(+9) Drake - Way 2 Sexy (feat. Future & Young Thug) 21.90(+2.10)

62(+11) Ed Sheeran - Shivers 21.60(+2.91)

-(-) Ozuna - La Funka 6.86(+1.71)

-(-) Justin Bieber - Ghost 2.50(+0.78)

-(-) Jay Wheeler - Dos Tragos 1.29(+0.82) +

[flextamcsignals]

Please tell me Drunk (And I Don't Wanna Go Home) will stay on the charts this week

[Choco]

Sept 16, 2021 21:28:06 GMT -5 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 said:

Sept 16, 2021 16:12:40 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Yeah, it makes me wonder if Billboard is fixed/rigged. LNX does everything to block Taylor from getting 2 #1’s, but turns around to do nothing to stop BTS from getting another week at #1.

As much as I'm so amazed by the 19-week #1 reign of "Old Town Road" I'm still salty that "ME!" wasn't #1

I'm still thankful for that. Probably Taylor's worst single ever.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 09/16/21

1(=) Drake - Way 2 Sexy 1,590,454 (-38,906)
2(=) The Kid LAROI - STAY 1,521,198 (+6,748)
3(=) Drake - Knife Talk 1,484,645 (-2,735)
4(=) Lil Nas X - INDUSTRY BABY 1,468,597 (+52,786)
5(=) Drake - Fair Trade 1,228,804 (-18,753)
6(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 1,154,056 (+5,281)
7(=) Drake - Girls Want Girls 1,104,492 (-19,095)
8(=) Baby Keem - family ties 1,009,617 (-20,578)
9(+1) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 939,996 (+9,753)
10(-1) Kanye West - Hurricane 931,412 (-33,292)

Drake - Certified Lover Boy
14(-1) Champagne Poetry 766,395 (-21,756)
22(-2) No Friends In The Industry 649,133 (-22,779)
24(-1) TSU 579,576 (-25,058)
35(-2) Papi's Home 480,350 (-15,238)
36(-4) N 2 Deep 478,091 (-23,138)
38(-3) In the Bible 472,528 (-21,426)
42(-2) Love All 437,564 (-17,876)
47(-4) Pipe Down 407,805 (-17,435)
50(-2) IMY2 396,645 (-15,576)
63(-7) 7am On Bridle Path 348,209 (-18,310)
69(-8) Race My Mind 342,449 (-14,555)
94(-16) You Only Live Twice 307,681 (-14,638)
Total Streams: 12,145,457

Others:
11(=) Doja Cat - Need to Know 862,761 (+3,803)
12(=) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 799,637 (+6,173)
13(+1) THE ANXIETY, WILLOW, Tyler Cole - Meet Me At Our Spot 775,908 (+22,519)
15(=) Doja Cat - Woman 730,956 (-10,515)
16(+1) Sleepy Hallow - 2055 727,465 (+11,099)
17(+1) Kanye West - Moon 692,655 (-17,423)
18(+1) Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever 689,661 (-4,786)
19(+2) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 669,862 (+11,292)
20(+2) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 663,785 (+25,462)
21(-5) Ed Sheeran - Shivers 651,087 (-88,076)
23(+1) Olivia Rodrigo - traitor 592,027 (+732)
25(+2) Farruko - Pepas 574,281 (+8,767)
26(=) Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 570,156 (+4,037)
27(-2) Kanye West - Off the Grid 558,529 (-20,873)
28(+1) Dua Lipa - Levitating 555,604 (+14,735)
29(-1) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 547,842 (-3,399)
30(=) Måneskin - Beggin' 525,870 (+11,519)
31(+3) Walker Hayes - Fancy Like 521,920 (+26,403)
39(+6) DaBaby - Lonely 450,015 (+29,921)
40(+1) Meek Mill - Sharing Locations 444,099 (-5,330)
41(-2) Baby Keem - range brothers 441,270 (-16,294)
43(-1) Eslabon Armado, DannyLux - Jugaste y Sufrí 429,298 (+1,371)
44(=) Surf Curse - Freaks 426,669 (+4,035)
48(+4) Chlöe - Have Mercy 396,927 (+11,868)
51(-2) Kanye West - Jail 379,527 (-16,756)
53(+2) Tai Verdes - A-O-K 378,268 (+6,007)
55(+3) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 373,285 (+11,019)
56(-5) Kacey Musgraves - justified 373,061 (-18,382)
61(+1) The Weeknd - Take My Breath 351,943 (-628)
62(+5) Megan Thee Stallion - Thot Shit 348,915 (+7,397)
65(=) Lil Tecca - REPEAT IT 345,376 (-688)
66(+2) A-Wall - Loverboy 345,279 (+4,247)
67(-1) Doja Cat, The Weeknd - You Right 345,128 (-785)
68(+2) PinkPantheress - Pain 342,622 (+3,590)
72(debut) Mac Miller - Colors and Shapes 337,381
75(+1) Lizzo - Rumors 334,863 (+3,636)
81(+29) Oliver Tree - Life Goes On 319,726 (+38,002)
82(-10) Kanye West - Praise God 318,688 (-13,833)
83(+3) Jordan Davis, Luke Bryan - Buy Dirt 318,432 (+8,525)
85(-3) Marshmello - Leave Before You Love Me 316,007 (+3,691)
86(-6) Post Malone - Motley Crew 314,233 (-1,098)
91(-1) Aventura, Bad Bunny - Volví 310,895 (+4,398)
97(-3) Sueco - Paralyzed 300,889 (-3,115)
98(+1) J Balvin, Skrillex - In Da Getto 297,189 (+2,090)
99(+8) Kacey Musgraves - breadwinner 295,323 (+12,946)

102(-5) Blueface, Og Bobby Billions - Outside (Better Days) 290,960 (-5,037)
115(-17) Kacey Musgraves - simple times 274,657 (-20,875)
117(+9) Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever Edit 272,816 (+9,663)
129(-2) Elton John, Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) 263,781 (+1,385)
139(-4) Roddy Ricch - Late At Night 255,674 (+3,090)
146(-8) PinkPantheress - Just for me 249,492 (-1,260)
162(-7) Blxst, Tyga - Chosen 237,728 (+38)
166(=) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 232,969 (+2,815)
167(+2) Sam Hunt - 23 232,159 (+5,244)
172(+9) Ryan Hurd - Chasing After You 228,749 (+7,310)
182(+2) bbno$ - edamame 222,517 (+4,172)
185(-5) Camila Cabello - Don't Go Yet 220,007 (-1,944)
187(-4) Måneskin - I WANNA BE YOUR SLAVE 219,366 (-462)
195(-8) Meek Mill - Blue Notes 2 215,569 (-1,256)
200(-4) Dua Lipa - Love Again 213,418 (+931)

Total Streams for Happier Than Ever: 962,477
Total Streams for Save Your Tears: 606,254

Biggest Gains (50K+): INDUSTRY BABY

[phieaglesfan712]

And that was before the album release. IB is coming for that #1 on the Hot 100.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - Week 09/16/21

1(+1) Drake - Way 2 Sexy 12,566,960
2(+3) Drake - Knife Talk 10,994,213
3(+9) The Kid LAROI - STAY 10,885,460
4(+11) Lil Nas X - INDUSTRY BABY 9,766,371
5(-2) Drake - Fair Trade 9,515,298
6(-5) Drake - Girls Want Girls 8,661,228
7(+14) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 8,085,874
8(+15) Baby Keem - family ties 7,799,676
9(+4) Kanye West - Hurricane 7,122,782
10(+16) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 6,572,354

Drake - Certified Lover Boy
11(-7) Champagne Poetry 6,158,277
16(-7) No Friends In The Industry 5,190,488
19(-13) TSU 4,906,149
27(-16) N 2 Deep 4,042,975
28(-21) Papi's Home 4,030,366
31(-23) In the Bible 3,935,561
36(-16) Love All 3,670,558
39(-25) Pipe Down 3,424,020
42(-25) IMY2 3,240,442
46(-30) 7am On Bridle Path 3,009,669
51(-33) Race My Mind 2,868,592
56(-37) You Only Live Twice 2,599,969
63(-43) Yebba’s Heartbreak 2,516,820
74(-52) Fountains 2,366,319
80(-56) Get Along Better 2,293,520

12(+15) Doja Cat - Need to Know 6,089,360
13(+19) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 5,684,589
14(+14) Kanye West - Moon 5,432,973
15(debut) Ed Sheeran - Shivers 5,257,794
17(+19) Doja Cat - Woman 5,074,116
18(+19) Sleepy Hallow - 2055 4,927,631
20(+31) THE ANXIETY, WILLOW, Tyler Cole - Meet Me At Our Spot 4,858,774
21(+9) Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever 4,783,074
22(+12) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 4,600,666
23(+15) Lil Nas X - MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) 4,480,041
24(+1) Kanye West - Off the Grid 4,369,248
25(debut) Baby Keem - range brothers 4,192,687
26(+16) Farruko - Pepas 4,083,957
29(+11) Olivia Rodrigo - traitor 4,018,142
30(+13) Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 3,955,883
32(+7) Dua Lipa - Levitating 3,930,358
33(+13) Walker Hayes - Fancy Like 3,821,731
34(+7) Måneskin - Beggin' 3,729,679
35(+13) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 3,689,331
43(-10) Kanye West - Jail 3,099,557
44(+149) Kacey Musgraves - Justified 3,078,049
45(+10) Meek Mill - Sharing Locations 3,063,325
47(debut) DaBaby - Lonely 2,981,439
49(+9) Surf Curse - Freaks 2,918,469
50(+12) Eslabon Armado, DannyLux - Jugaste y Sufrí 2,889,655
53(debut) Chlöe - Have Mercy 2,792,096
55(+8) Tai Verdes - A-O-K 2,648,979
57(debut) Kacey Musgraves - simple times 2,580,370
60(-25) Kanye West - Praise God 2,567,349
64(-3) The Weeknd - Take My Breath 2,509,257
65(+8) Megan Thee Stallion - Thot Shit 2,446,962
70(+7) PinkPantheress - Pain 2,378,283
71(+25) Lil Tecca - REPEAT IT 2,376,414
72(+16) Doja Cat, The Weeknd - You Right 2,370,907
73(-9) Lizzo - Rumors 2,368,275
76(+15) A-Wall - Loverboy 2,328,065
83(debut) Baby Keem - trademark usa 2,227,984
84(-40) Kanye West - Believe What I Say 2,201,264
85(-5) Aventura, Bad Bunny - Volví 2,189,371
87(+21) Jordan Davis, Luke Bryan - Buy Dirt 2,182,134
88(debut) J Balvin, Skrillex - In Da Getto 2,180,181
92(+42) Blueface, Og Bobby Billions - Outside (Better Days) 2,163,062

102(debut) Kacey Musgraves - breadwinner 2,062,341
104(-12) Sueco - Paralyzed 2,037,580
109(debut) Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever Edit 1,945,235
121(debut) Glass Animals - I Don't Wanna Talk (I Just Wanna Dance) 1,865,092
122(debut) Kacey Musgraves - good wife 1,863,679
127(debut) Sam Hunt - 23 1,827,615
128(+71) Elton John, Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) 1,823,100
131(debut) LISA - LALISA 1,789,663
132(debut) Kacey Musgraves - star-crossed 1,786,943
135(debut) Kacey Musgraves - cherry blossom 1,772,284
149(-12) PinkPantheress - Just for me 1,728,366
150(debut) Oliver Tree - Life Goes On 1,725,814
159(debut) Baby Keem - issues 1,674,313
160(re-entry) Baby Keem - durag activity 1,673,717
162(+12) Blxst, Tyga - Chosen 1,668,506
172(-101) Meek Mill - Blue Notes 2 1,614,481
183(debut) J Balvin, Sech - Una Nota 1,567,771
187(-60) Måneskin - I WANNA BE YOUR SLAVE 1,551,816
188(re-entry) Ryan Hurd - Chasing After You 1,546,107
194(debut) Baby Keem - cocoa 1,521,700
195(debut) Kacey Musgraves - camera roll 1,518,228
199(debut) bbno$ - edamame 1,504,205

Total Streams for Happier Than Ever: 6,728,309

Week 2 of Albums:
Kanye West - DONDA: 79,671,271
Drake - Certified Lover Boy: 99,538,220
Olivia Rodrigo - SOUR: 118,447,852

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Sept 17, 2021 13:07:15 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

US Spotify - Week 09/16/21

Week 2 of Albums:
Kanye West - DONDA: 79,671,271
Drake - Certified Lover Boy: 99,538,220
Olivia Rodrigo - SOUR: 118,447,852

wow, she killed it...and with 11 tracks only

[Enigma.]

Olivia did THAT with 11 tracks. Streaming legend!

EDIT: what Soundclock said lol

[inverse]

Who's ready for Fancy Like Top 5

[felipe]

Sept 17, 2021 12:43:03 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

In what world is the guy who has been the most dominant figure in mainstream music in the U.S. over the last 12 years niche? The most consumed artist in the U.S. every year for the last 7 years is niche? Who has scored more hits than Drake in the last 12 years? Drake doesn't make enough appearances on Pop radio so him/his audience must be niche. Smh. It's like some of you don't exist in the actual world with some of the comments you post in here.

While I do agree niche is not the best word here, I don't think numbers alone tell the whole story. Drake can be the most consumed artist in the US but there seems to be a limit to his audience. Take a look at some of his latest #1 singles: Nonstop, Nice for What, Laugh Now Cry Later, What's Next... I don't think anybody would argue that these song's are as well-known as Ed Sheeran's #1s. Or Bruno Mars. Or Maroon 5's. Surely Drake's fans will know all the songs mentioned, but someone who doesn't actively follow his music might not even know or recognize these songs. Now take Girls Like You or Moves Like Jagger, even somebody who hates Maroon 5 will know these songs.

[thegreatdivine]

Sept 17, 2021 15:00:34 GMT -5 felipe said:

Sept 17, 2021 12:43:03 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

In what world is the guy who has been the most dominant figure in mainstream music in the U.S. over the last 12 years niche? The most consumed artist in the U.S. every year for the last 7 years is niche? Who has scored more hits than Drake in the last 12 years? Drake doesn't make enough appearances on Pop radio so him/his audience must be niche. Smh. It's like some of you don't exist in the actual world with some of the comments you post in here.

While I do agree niche is not the best word here, I don't think numbers alone tell the whole story. Drake can be the most consumed artist in the US but there seems to be a limit to his audience. Take a look at some of his latest #1 singles: Nonstop, Nice for What, Laugh Now Cry Later, What's Next... I don't think anybody would argue that these song's are as well-known as Ed Sheeran's #1s. Or Bruno Mars. Or Maroon 5's. Surely Drake's fans will know all the songs mentioned, but someone who doesn't actively follow his music might not even know or recognize these songs. Now take Girls Like You or Moves Like Jagger, even somebody who hates Maroon 5 will know these songs.

So, basically your argument is that you/your music can only be known by lots of people if you make pop hits and get airplay on pop radio? He's known by enough people in the U.S. for him to outstream all the other acts you mentioned and that's all that matters. 

[phieaglesfan712]

Sept 17, 2021 14:53:38 GMT -5 inverse said:

Who's ready for Fancy Like Top 5

It’s coming. I see it reaching #1 soon.

[felipe]

Sept 17, 2021 15:07:44 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Sept 17, 2021 15:00:34 GMT -5 felipe said:

While I do agree niche is not the best word here, I don't think numbers alone tell the whole story. Drake can be the most consumed artist in the US but there seems to be a limit to his audience. Take a look at some of his latest #1 singles: Nonstop, Nice for What, Laugh Now Cry Later, What's Next... I don't think anybody would argue that these song's are as well-known as Ed Sheeran's #1s. Or Bruno Mars. Or Maroon 5's. Surely Drake's fans will know all the songs mentioned, but someone who doesn't actively follow his music might not even know or recognize these songs. Now take Girls Like You or Moves Like Jagger, even somebody who hates Maroon 5 will know these songs.

So, basically your argument is that you/your music can only be known by lots of people if you make pop hits and get airplay on pop radio? He's known by enough people in the U.S. for him to outstream all the other acts you mentioned and that's all that matters. 

Yes, he outstreams them. If we look at the numbers, that is correct. But are you saying his #1 singles are as well-known as the #1 singles by the other acts I mentioned?

Now the thing about being played on pop radio, I think there's more to it than just that. Songs like Hello, Uptown Funk or Despacito were inescapable even to those who don't listen to pop radio. You might be a hard rock fan who hates Justin Bieber, you'll still know Despacito.

[thegreatdivine]

Sept 17, 2021 15:17:25 GMT -5 felipe said:

Sept 17, 2021 15:07:44 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

So, basically your argument is that you/your music can only be known by lots of people if you make pop hits and get airplay on pop radio? He's known by enough people in the U.S. for him to outstream all the other acts you mentioned and that's all that matters. 

Yes, he outstreams them. If we look at the numbers, that is correct. But are you saying his #1 singles are as well-known as the #1 singles by the other acts I mentioned?

Now the thing about being played on pop radio, I think there's more to it than just that. Songs like Hello, Uptown Funk or Despacito were inescapable even to those who don't listen to pop radio. You might be a hard rock fan who hates Justin Bieber, you'll still know Despacito.

Who cares about how well-known his singles are, though? Why are you listing some the biggest hits of all time to make a case for Drake's songs not being well-known, especially in the US? What's the correlation? He scores massive hits in the US and his music is more consumed than anyone else's in the US. To add to that, he has sold out multiple arena tours in the US. He's more than fine, I promise you. The people who need to know him, do and if that's enough to keep him outdoing everyone, I don't think he needs everyone to know him/his music. 

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

I’m sorry I implied Drake catered to a niche audience. I’m also sorry I suggested country music catered to a niche audience too.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

I did have a thought today and I apologize in advance.

The conversation about mixing streaming with sales to come up with a number. Billboard (or is it one of their sources) does this thing where when a song (or songs) are on multiple albums, they give the points of that song to the album that had the most physical sales for that week. We saw this most when The Weeknd released his Hits compilation while songs from After Hours were doing well enough to notice. Now, again, this applies to the album chart and to me is quite ridiculous that it’s an all or nothing thing. Even more ridiculous to me than the suggestion that physical album sales can’t result in some sort of similar system where points can be distributed amongst the tracks as they pertain to the Hot 100.

Just thought I’d put that out there because I knew I wasn’t pulling the initial idea out of my ass.

[iHype.]

Real life is always so different from these online opinions lol.

[felipe]

Sept 17, 2021 15:48:17 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Sept 17, 2021 15:17:25 GMT -5 felipe said:

Yes, he outstreams them. If we look at the numbers, that is correct. But are you saying his #1 singles are as well-known as the #1 singles by the other acts I mentioned?

Now the thing about being played on pop radio, I think there's more to it than just that. Songs like Hello, Uptown Funk or Despacito were inescapable even to those who don't listen to pop radio. You might be a hard rock fan who hates Justin Bieber, you'll still know Despacito.

Who cares about how well-known his singles are, though? Why are you listing some the biggest hits of all time to make a case for Drake's songs not being well-known, especially in the US? What's the correlation? He scores massive hits in the US and his music is more consumed than anyone else's in the US. To add to that, he has sold out multiple arena tours in the US. He's more than fine, I promise you. The people who need to know him, do and if that's enough to keep him outdoing everyone, I don't think he needs everyone to know him/his music. 

So you do agree that Drake's songs are not as well-known as other male acts such as Bruno, Sheeran or Bieber, even though he is, like you said, more consumed than any of them?

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Sept 17, 2021 9:08:20 GMT -5 flextamcsignals said:

Please tell me Drunk (And I Don't Wanna Go Home) will stay on the charts this week

It should. It eeked out a weekly gain of +0.43 radio audience according to kworb's Mediabase data.

[nathanalbright]

Yes, with those radio gains, we should expect the song to be able to beat recurrency, assuming of course that we have a good understanding of the application of that rule based on what we have seen for other songs in the same position.

[thegreatdivine]

Sept 17, 2021 18:03:18 GMT -5 felipe said:

Sept 17, 2021 15:48:17 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Who cares about how well-known his singles are, though? Why are you listing some the biggest hits of all time to make a case for Drake's songs not being well-known, especially in the US? What's the correlation? He scores massive hits in the US and his music is more consumed than anyone else's in the US. To add to that, he has sold out multiple arena tours in the US. He's more than fine, I promise you. The people who need to know him, do and if that's enough to keep him outdoing everyone, I don't think he needs everyone to know him/his music. 

So you do agree that Drake's songs are not as well-known as other male acts such as Bruno, Sheeran or Bieber, even though he is, like you said, more consumed than any of them?

You mentioned the biggest hits of each of those people's careers. Drake has hits that are just as big, so I don't know what you're trying to achieve by that. He is just as popular as each of those acts. This may blow your mind but not everyone listens to pop radio. Bruno hasn't scored a hit as huge as Uptown Funk since then. Ed Sheeran hasn't scored a hit as big as Shape of You since then and Justin Bieber hasn't scored a hit as big as Despacito since then. In fact, the only person who has scored recent massive hits is Drake. God's Plan, Nice for What and In My Feelings all happened in 2018 and we're the biggest/well-known hits of that year.

You're just so stuck on this idea that only pop stars make hits people know and that's silly to me. Drake is a rapper so to you, he just magically happens to outstream everybody but he doesn't get airplay on pop radio so songs by other acts are more known than anything he drops. What a flawless logic but if you wanna remain on that hill, I'm not stopping you.

[violentdreams]

Sept 17, 2021 17:12:36 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Real life is always so different from these online opinions lol.

I'm sorry they banned you from making bait threads on KTT2 but I'm afraid this has nothing to do with the Billboard Hot 100. You must find a different thread to spill your love and passion for I'm Way 2 Sexy For This Syrup.

[iHype.]

Sept 17, 2021 19:36:30 GMT -5 violentdreams said:

Sept 17, 2021 17:12:36 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Real life is always so different from these online opinions lol.

I'm sorry they banned you from making bait threads on KTT2 but I'm afraid this has nothing to do with the Billboard Hot 100. You must find a different thread to spill your love and passion for I'm Way 2 Sexy For This Syrup.

???

1. I'm not banned from doing anything on KTT2. Weird that you just made up a lie out of thin air.

2. Discussing CLB and Donda absolutely does have to do with the current Hot 100 discussion, and people have been discussing whether they like them and/or their quality the past 2 weeks almost daily. Don't tell me what to do.

[violentdreams]

Sept 17, 2021 19:43:38 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Sept 17, 2021 19:36:30 GMT -5 violentdreams said:

I'm sorry they banned you from making bait threads on KTT2 but I'm afraid this has nothing to do with the Billboard Hot 100. You must find a different thread to spill your love and passion for I'm Way 2 Sexy For This Syrup.

???

1. I'm not banned from doing anything on KTT2. Weird that you just made up a lie out of thin air.

2. Discussing CLB and Donda absolutely does have to do with the current Hot 100 discussion, and people have been discussing whether they like them and/or their quality the past 2 weeks almost daily. Don't tell me what to do.

I'm joking because I know for a fact that's more fitting as a bait thread on there than a random post in this thread that doesn't advance any sort of discussion. The point you're making is tenuous at best (why are football teams the ambassador for "actual real life people") and I'm bored of hearing Drake stans complaining about internet people not liking Drake while at the same time belittling them, if they don't matter so much then stop talking about them. We're all literally nerds on here so trying to make some sort of gotcha about how "if you were REAL you would love CLB" is a vapid and useless point to make. Nobody is trying to be the one true representation of what real people think, it's all just people saying how they feel lol.

[iHype.]

Sept 17, 2021 19:52:00 GMT -5 violentdreams said:

Sept 17, 2021 19:43:38 GMT -5 iHype. said:

???

1. I'm not banned from doing anything on KTT2. Weird that you just made up a lie out of thin air.

2. Discussing CLB and Donda absolutely does have to do with the current Hot 100 discussion, and people have been discussing whether they like them and/or their quality the past 2 weeks almost daily. Don't tell me what to do.

I'm joking because I know for a fact that's more fitting as a bait thread on there than a random post in this thread that doesn't advance any sort of discussion. The point you're making is tenuous at best (why are football teams the ambassador for "actual real life people") and I'm bored of hearing Drake stans complaining about internet people not liking Drake while at the same time belittling them, if they don't matter so much then stop talking about them. We're all literally nerds on here so trying to make some sort of gotcha about how "if you were REAL you would love CLB" is a vapid and useless point to make. Nobody is trying to be the one true representation of what real people think, it's all just people saying what they think lol.

I'm not sure why I made you mad enough to type all that.  I made a post with 1 simple sentence.

You also managed to incorrectly access that 1 sentence. I'm not saying one has to be "real" to like an album (who cares?....). I'm saying in many places you'd see CLB passed off as universally disliked, but in other spheres you see people who universally do like it.

I've noticed Drake has the most polarizing opinions in social media and in person. I think anyone under 30 who is familiar with him would notice this... 

[violentdreams]

Sept 17, 2021 20:02:21 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Sept 17, 2021 19:52:00 GMT -5 violentdreams said:

I'm joking because I know for a fact that's more fitting as a bait thread on there than a random post in this thread that doesn't advance any sort of discussion. The point you're making is tenuous at best (why are football teams the ambassador for "actual real life people") and I'm bored of hearing Drake stans complaining about internet people not liking Drake while at the same time belittling them, if they don't matter so much then stop talking about them. We're all literally nerds on here so trying to make some sort of gotcha about how "if you were REAL you would love CLB" is a vapid and useless point to make. Nobody is trying to be the one true representation of what real people think, it's all just people saying what they think lol.

I'm not sure why I made you mad enough to type all that.  I made a post with 1 simple sentence.

You also managed to incorrectly access that 1 sentence. I'm not saying one has to be "real" to like an album (who cares?....). I'm saying in many places you'd see CLB passed off as universally disliked, but in other spheres you see people who universally do like it.

I've noticed Drake has the most polarizing opinions in social media and in person. I think anyone under 30 who is familiar with him would notice this... 

I mean fair enough if that's the point you wanted to make lol, I just got the vibe you posted that as a gotcha for people here who don't like the album (and let's face it there are more people who don't than people who do). I thought it was a bit shady and I wanted to be shady in exchange lmao.

Also I love making unnecessarily long posts, it's both my best and worst trait on here. This in of itself is an unnecessary addition to this post but I'm typing it anyways because I simply have to.

[thegreatdivine]

violentdreams just to offer some additional context, iHype. posted that tweet as a general statement to how people tend to treat Drake and his music online. It's basically a punchline to call his music terrible and to call him a bad musician. If you've been a Drake fan for long enough, you'll know that for most, if not all of his career, there's been chatter online about how his music sucks or how he's not a good enough rapper, etc and despite all of that, his music has always outperformed that of all his peers/contemporaries. People have been swearing that all his singles/albums are terrible but those same people play those songs in private and in public when out with friends.

Critics and even casual listeners all bashed Views, Scorpion and now CLB but the numbers always tell a different story, so that's why instances like athletes or random people walking down the street being asked and saying they like or listen to Drake more than any other artist he's compared to in any specific instance is funny to Drake fans because we've all known that to be the reality of the situation.

Another thing that's been happening recently is how people who bash Drake's music online, specifically Twitter, eventually share their Spotify/Apple Music recaps for the year and they almost always have Drake as their most played artist. The truth is that if Drake's music was as bad as people claimed it was online, it wouldn't be nearly as consumed/successful as it is and this has been going on for 12 years now so Drake is clearly doing something right. That's basically what that post was about.

[nathanalbright]

There were very few opinions expressed in those videos that would bring credit to the people holding them--I think one guy on the Broncos had a nuanced opinion and the others were trying to shout him down.

[flextamcsignals]

Sept 17, 2021 18:53:12 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

Yes, with those radio gains, we should expect the song to be able to beat recurrency, assuming of course that we have a good understanding of the application of that rule based on what we have seen for other songs in the same position.

If they kick it out after letting One Too Many stay on for god knows how long, I’m gonna lose it