Billboard Hot 100: 12/04/2021

[whales10268]

Nov 29, 2021 14:07:39 GMT -5 mms82 said:

is today a holiday for Billboard, post Tgivs? Or just running late

definitely not a holiday, definitely just running late

[annoymous1]

They probably just got done eating lunch or taking a nap.

[Naos]

I was hoping to see the Top 10 before work, but maybe not with how delayed it is.

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they are in a Xmas mood

[jenglisbe]

Today is not a holiday, but people being off late last week for the holiday may have slowed things down for this chart.

[phieaglesfan712]

I’m amazed at how the US charts are the last to be revealed each week, yet are the only ones consistently delayed.

You don’t ever see this with the ARIA or UK charts.

[Groovy]

They’re probably closed because of Cyber Monday lol.

[otaviohmg]

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top 5 debut for Oh My God! Slay

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[annoymous1]

Good for Adele for going back to #1 and debuting at #5 but hoping Cold Heart isn't at #11 this week 💔

[nathanalbright]

It looks like it is rip.

[NeRD]

I see 8 weeks at #1 for Easy On Me pretty confidently. Not out of the question that it could match Hello if ther are no major releases at the top of the New Year.

Nice hold for Taylor; strong debut for Oh My God. Hopefully that won't be it's peak.

[Clode]

Nov 29, 2021 14:37:40 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

It looks like it is rip.

"Cold Heart" is probably going to still peak in the Top 10, But I think that it won't happen until January because of the Holiday season. 

[atg]

It looks like Stay and Industry Baby are going to stay in the top 5 for a while, even after christmas. The former probably has a chance getting on the all time list which is insane considering i didn’t expect the song that has similar elements to BL would last this long but i guess the formula does work.

[85la]

Cool to see EOM top all three metrics and OMG debut at #5!! Hopefully the latter can stay near or surpass that position and become a big hit. Also Glad to see Ed's songs, NTK, and SOTW holding, as well as Heat Waves reaching a new peak. Unfortunately Taylor dropped a bit more than expected, but this is a fairly exciting week before the inevitable Christmas invasion that will soon really shake things up!

[phieaglesfan712]

Nov 29, 2021 14:40:59 GMT -5 NeRD said:

I see 8 weeks at #1 for Easy On Me pretty confidently. Not out of the question that it could match Hello if ther are no major releases at the top of the New Year.

Nice hold for Taylor; strong debut for Oh My God. Hopefully that won't be it's peak.

Just think, if not for mass buying and EOM, we might be looking at 15+ weeks at #1 for Stay.

[nathanalbright]

Nov 29, 2021 14:43:21 GMT -5 Clode said:

Nov 29, 2021 14:37:40 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

It looks like it is rip.

"Cold Heart" is probably going to still peak in the Top 10, But I think that it won't happen until January because of the Holiday season. 

I agree with you there all around.

[twelvevinylrecords]

Cold Heart top ten next week callin it rn

[fridayteenage]

Nov 29, 2021 14:44:18 GMT -5 85la said:

Cool to see EOM top all three metrics

It's interesting because they give us the points that the song has for the Hot 100 for sales, but point out that technically it's not on the sales chart because of Complete My Album.

“Easy on Me” does not appear on the Dec. 4 Digital Song Sales chart, which reflects total weekly sales activity, i.e., net sales based on both weekly purchases and total “returns” when consumers complete album purchases — which, in effect, count as a negative sale for tracks customers have already purchased — as with 30 in the latest tracking frame, via platforms such as the iTunes Store.

Have they ever given the Hot 100 sales chart points even though the net sales is zero?
I know that for Hello they didn't:

“Hello” slips 1-2 after four weeks atop Digital Songs, down by 66 percent to 112,000 sold. The sales drop of “Hello” is owed to iTunes customers who opted to “complete” purchases of 25 by upgrading earlier purchases of the song to a full album. Effectively, those who completed the album were returning the song, thus translating to a net sales total, contributing to its Digital Songs chart fall. For the purposes of the Hot 100, however, gross sales regardless of returned volume contribute to the song’s overall points total.

So they gave us net last time but not gross.

Nor for 1989:

“Shake” falls off Digital Songs. Its slide is owed to iTunes customers who bought “Shake” and completed their purchases of 1989.

[Mayman]

I was told by somebody here that All Too Well wasn't a legitimate hit and was just sales fueled. What happened?

[gikem]

Nov 29, 2021 14:54:08 GMT -5 twelvevinylrecords said:

Cold Heart top ten next week callin it rn

Not with the barrage of Christmas songs incoming.

[nathanalbright]

Nov 29, 2021 15:22:49 GMT -5 Mayman said:

I was told by somebody here that All Too Well wasn't a legitimate hit and was just sales fueled. What happened?

That someone wasn't paying attention to the stream updates.

[phieaglesfan712]

Nov 29, 2021 15:22:49 GMT -5 Mayman said:

I was told by somebody here that All Too Well wasn't a legitimate hit and was just sales fueled. What happened?

No one ever said it was just sales fueled. All we said was that it had gimmicks, which helped it get its week at #1.

[85la]

fridayteenage , yeah they are fudging the semantics a bit now by saying that EOM topped all 3 metrics, even though it doesn't technically appear on the Digital Song Sales chart because of Complete My Album, and that they might not have reported this in a similar way with Hello and Shake it Off.

Gross digital sales numbers (not factoring in Complete My Album and where the song ranks on the Digital Sales chart) have always counted towards songs' Hot 100 chart points though, including Hello and Shake it Off.

[Mayman]

Nov 29, 2021 15:30:46 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Nov 29, 2021 15:22:49 GMT -5 Mayman said:

I was told by somebody here that All Too Well wasn't a legitimate hit and was just sales fueled. What happened?

No one ever said it was just sales fueled. All we said was that it had gimmicks, which helped it get its week at #1.

Interesting because you've been arguing that it wouldn't have gone #1 without sales in that other thread for days, despite being wrong every time you post. Interesting that you already forgot!

[phieaglesfan712]

Nov 29, 2021 15:35:15 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Nov 29, 2021 15:30:46 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

No one ever said it was just sales fueled. All we said was that it had gimmicks, which helped it get its week at #1.

Interesting because you've been arguing that it wouldn't have gone #1 without sales in that other thread for days, despite being wrong every time you post. Interesting that you already forgot!

It's true that it wouldn't have gone #1 without sales. It already had no airplay, so that would mean ATW would have been #1 on streaming alone, which is absolutely false. I get ATW's streaming numbers are good, but let's not exaggerate and pretend they were record-setting.

[fridayteenage]

This week's top 5 on the #DigitalSongSales chart:
1. @st8ofmine& @drewjacobsmusic
God's Country
2. @eltonofficial & @dualipa
Cold Heart (@pnau Remix)
3. @walkerhayes
Fancy Like
4. coldplay & @bts_twt
My Universe
5. @kidrock ft. Lockheart_Truck_
Don't Tell Me How To Live

So many older and/or right skewing acts.

[NeRD]

Nov 29, 2021 14:44:35 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Nov 29, 2021 14:40:59 GMT -5 NeRD said:

I see 8 weeks at #1 for Easy On Me pretty confidently. Not out of the question that it could match Hello if ther are no major releases at the top of the New Year.

Nice hold for Taylor; strong debut for Oh My God. Hopefully that won't be it's peak.

Just think, if not for mass buying and EOM, we might be looking at 15+ weeks at #1 for Stay.

I don't get it. What about EOM's run for you makes it an illigetimate #1? I would argue it's more of an "organic" #1 than Hello since it doesn't have the massive hype and is looking to have some legs.

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