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Post by imbuemyblue on Jan 12, 2022 13:17:16 GMT -5
Wild that COMN may still remain Abels biggest debut I know the charts have exactly zero to do with quality, but COMN is so lush, dark and beautiful that I don't have one problem with it being his biggest debut. What a song. |
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Post by kindofbiased on Jan 12, 2022 13:50:17 GMT -5
Oh My God and Rolling In The Deep's videos actually share a director and tbh that makes a lot of sense to me
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Post by lugus15 on Jan 12, 2022 13:55:31 GMT -5
To be fair, Billboard should reduce or minimize airplay's influence by at least 25% and slighty increase physical sales'.
I mean, one cannot look at the performance numbers of this week and think Bruno isn't the #1 song of the week over EOM, and I don't even like Bruno.
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Post by 85la on Jan 12, 2022 14:13:26 GMT -5
girl, that MV's set is just 90% chairs Your point? There was a lot of people dancing around too, a lot of interesting costumes, other props, etc. It's what was done with the chairs that was interesting, and I thought it was an amazing video!! I didn't quite get the narrative though (if there was one), so I'll have to study up on that. |
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Post by 85la on Jan 12, 2022 14:18:33 GMT -5
To be fair, Billboard should reduce or minimize airplay's influence by at least 25% and slighty increase physical sales'. I mean, one cannot look at the performance numbers of this week and think Bruno isn't the #1 song of the week over EOM, and I don't even like Bruno. Before I even get into the other part of your post, last time I checked, Bruno didn't have many, if any physical sales either (much like almost all songs now), so not sure how your proposed formula change would help it? |
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Post by kingvavis on Jan 12, 2022 14:23:08 GMT -5
To be fair, Billboard should reduce or minimize airplay's influence by at least 25% and slighty increase physical sales'. I mean, one cannot look at the performance numbers of this week and think Bruno isn't the #1 song of the week over EOM, and I don't even like Bruno. You don't reduce airplay, you increase streaming |
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Jan 12, 2022 15:56:09 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates Β« 2022 Β» / Β« 01 Β» / Β« 12 Β»
6(=) Elton John & Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) 67.19(-0.17)
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Post by kcdawg13 on Jan 12, 2022 15:59:04 GMT -5
Comments like these are f**ked up to me. Im sorry Iβm over sensitive, but likeβ¦β¦β¦there is a line. Yeah, I get people didn't like her but I think it's messed up to joke about her harming herself. I was more implying she'd hurt other people with her disregard for us by throwing our usernames onto Twitter with no mind that some rabid fan would dox one of us. But tasteless joke either way, sorry. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 12, 2022 15:59:31 GMT -5
Just because airplay numbers are down from what they once were, some want to increase streaming's power on the singles chart? Far as I can see, airplay numbers are still larger than streaming numbers.  While sales numbers are a far cry from what they once were, at least it's hard facts that consumers paid to purchase that single and that single alone in a transaction. Most consumers purchasing streaming services are not paying for just one track, or even one act (at least there's no way to prove that looking at the info). Yes, terrestrial radio is free for the most part, though its power should not be removed further from streaming, as it's still an important part of the equation (more than sales numbers, overall). |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jan 12, 2022 15:59:59 GMT -5
^^Radio updates haven't quite gone back to normal. But it seems it is taking its time to reach its peak.
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Post by gikem on Jan 12, 2022 16:07:57 GMT -5
Over in the CHR/Pop daily updates thread, thereβs speculation that an email from AllAccess earlier today, which states that Top 40 ratings are down 30% over the past year due to stale programming, might be why audience updates for that format have been really terrible lately.
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Post by enwhy on Jan 12, 2022 17:13:37 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates Β« 2022 Β» / Β« 01 Β» / Β« 12 Β»
6(=) Elton John & Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) 67.19(-0.17)
Why is it stalling The last callout scores (from mid-December) showed Cold Heart in dead last on Pop. It's pretty hard to push forward in the top 10 without having at least decent callouts. It's just crazy to me, the song is inoffensive as possible, and it's nostalgia-bait. I guess it's just not resonating with pop listeners though? |
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Post by Gary on Jan 12, 2022 17:18:53 GMT -5
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Hot 100 Flashback 1/1/2022
1 1 - 50 All I Want For Christmas Is You, Mariah Carey 1
2 2 - 44 Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree, Brenda Lee 2
3 4 - 41 Jingle Bell Rock, Bobby Helms 3
4 5 - 25 A Holly Jolly Christmas, Burl Ives 4
5 3 - 11 Easy On Me, Adele 1
6 7 - 26 It's The Most Wonderful Time Of The Year, Andy Williams 5
7 9 - 24 Last Christmas, Wham! 7
8 11 - 19 Feliz Navidad, Jose Feliciano 6
9 6 - 24 Stay, The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber 1
10 13 - 15 Sleigh Ride, The Ronettes 10
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jan 12, 2022 17:28:10 GMT -5
Why is it stallingΒ Β TheΒ last callout scores (from mid-December) showed Cold Heart in dead last on Pop. It's pretty hard to push forward in the top 10 without having at least decent callouts. It's just crazy to me, the song is inoffensive as possible, and it's nostalgia-bait. I guess it's just not resonating with pop listeners though? Sometimes it just takes a while for a song to resonate. At first, SYT had poor call out scores. Heck, Heat Waves ranked near the bottom of callouts all spring and summer. We may just need to give it some time. Cold Heart may move its way up the call outs list. |
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Post by Gary on Jan 12, 2022 17:28:59 GMT -5
October 12, 1963
1 4 19 4 Sugar Shack, The Fireballs 1
2 3 3 7 Be My Baby, The Ronettes 2
3 1 1 10 Blue Velvet, Bobby Vinton 1
4 5 9 9 Cry Baby, Garnet Mimms 4
5 2 2 7 Sally, Go 'Round The Roses, The Jaynetts 2
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7 6 5 11 My Boyfriend's Back, The Angels 1
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Post by iHype. on Jan 12, 2022 17:48:25 GMT -5
It's probably the label not him. Still tasteless... like suddenly "Moth" qualifies for the album? I wish people would stop pretending the artist does not know when this stuff happens and agrees to it. Drakeβs Dark Lane Demo Tapes was #2 by like 10k. They did nothing to make it go #1. No tracks tacked on mid week, no remixes, no bundles. Absolutely nothing. Drake is also under Republic for distribution like Weeknd. The reason they did nothing is because Drake did not push them to. Makes no sense for Republic to let their biggest artist lose #1 by 10k, but then go all out when itβs Taylor/Abel in close races. Weeknd also directly owns his masters. This means none of his music can be released without him approving and having direct input. A deluxe edition of his album would be a release he would know about. Thereβs no way you own your masters but arenβt even aware a new version of your album has dropped. Owning masters indicates complete control and input over how your music is released and used. |
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Jan 12, 2022 17:51:23 GMT -5
Why is it stalling The last callout scores (from mid-December) showed Cold Heart in dead last on Pop. It's pretty hard to push forward in the top 10 without having at least decent callouts. It's just crazy to me, the song is inoffensive as possible, and it's nostalgia-bait. I guess it's just not resonating with pop listeners though? If you look at "Cold Heart" from the perspective of someone who doesn't know it's a mashup of Elton's original 80s singing and Dua Lipa's modern rendition of songs from the 70s and 80s (which is probably a non-negligible portion of CHR listeners), the repetitious and jumbled-up nature of the lyrics could stand out more, and the difference in audio fidelity between the two vocal takes would certainly be more jarring. |
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Post by degen on Jan 12, 2022 17:56:13 GMT -5
βCold Heartβ is a fascinating case for me. I always felt like it was lazy and uninspired. Elton has released better songs recently that shouldβve been the ones to garner worldwide success. Nonetheless Iβm happy that he hit the top 10 in the U.S. because we need more legacy acts like him to prove you can still obtain chart success after a certain age. Even if Dua helped here. Itβs a good lesson for someone like Madonna to try to emulate. Iβll take βInto the Prayer (Swedish House Mafia Remix)β feat. Lil Nas X if it comes.
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Post by nathanalbright on Jan 12, 2022 18:04:23 GMT -5
I agree, it's a fascinating case me for me to see what it takes for older acts to be taken seriously in mainstream pop music, and apparently sometimes that is animation and a good remix producer.
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Post by sheardbeard on Jan 12, 2022 18:57:03 GMT -5
At least Elton John has tried to remain current/relevant throughout his entire careerβ¦ even this late into his game. I think it has a lot to do with his willingness and interest in keeping up with new and upcoming artists. Most legacy artists have just stopped making/creating/releasing new music altogether. For example, I donβt expect a Billy Joel resurgence any time soon, even if PNAU mashes 8 of his songs together.
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Post by nathanalbright on Jan 12, 2022 19:00:44 GMT -5
That is true; the last new pop music Billy Joel released though, was with the River of Dreams album, and even I was young when that came out.
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Post by chartfreak on Jan 12, 2022 19:34:16 GMT -5
Currently streaming "Be My Baby" by The Ronettes. Never even knew this song, was that song!
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Post by renfield75 on Jan 12, 2022 19:55:33 GMT -5
Currently streaming "Be My Baby" by The Ronettes. Never even knew this song, was that song! Follow it up with Eddie Money's "Take Me Home Tonight". I wish she had gotten official feature credit on that. |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 12, 2022 22:54:25 GMT -5
^Yes- it was common to not credit additional vocalists in some cases, even through the '90s with some hip-hop singles, particularly female acts who sang the chorus/hook.
Ronnie was a great subject when I interviewed her back around 2015. One of my most enjoyable articles to work on. She was great live, too. RIP, RS.
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Post by TakeMe on Jan 12, 2022 23:28:35 GMT -5
Feels good seeing most of iTunes top ten selling for $1.29
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Post by Enigma. on Jan 13, 2022 2:42:22 GMT -5
At least Elton John has tried to remain current/relevant throughout his entire careerβ¦ even this late into his game. I think it has a lot to do with his willingness and interest in keeping up with new and upcoming artists. Most legacy artists have just stopped making/creating/releasing new music altogether. For example, I donβt expect a Billy Joel resurgence any time soon, even if PNAU mashes 8 of his songs together. PNAU collaborated with Elton in 2012 with the same concept. I think that is just a one-off hit where everything just aligned. And cannot be forgotten that despite its success so far, Cold Heart is still only the 4th most streamed song by Elton on Spotify. His catalogue streams are gigantic. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jan 13, 2022 4:12:25 GMT -5
US Spotify - 01/11/22
1(=) Carolina GaitΓ‘n - La Gaita, Mauro Castillo, Adassa, Rhenzy Feliz, Diane Guerrero, Stephanie Beatriz, Encanto Cast - We Don't Talk About Bruno 1,245,175 (+11,278)
2(=) The Weeknd - Sacrifice 1,058,173 (-117,621)
3(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 909,041 (-2,325)
4(+3) Jessica Darrow - Surface Pressure 883,586 (+7,571)
5(+4) Kodak Black - Super Gremlin 880,299 (+31,445)
6(-2) The Weeknd - Out of Time 817,900 (-92,395)
7(-1) Lauren Spencer-Smith - Fingers Crossed 816,089 (-82,503)
8(+3) Lil Nas X - INDUSTRY BABY 801,850 (+8,441)
9(-4) The Weeknd - Is There Someone Else? 799,606 (-106,064)
10(+2) The Kid LAROI - STAY 773,355 (-2,066)
The Weeknd - Dawn FM
11(-3) Gasoline 761,973 (-105,488)
13(-3) How Do I Make You Love Me? 699,165 (-104,459)
15(-1) Less Than Zero 673,240 (-65,986)
17(-2) Take My Breath 628,214 (-89,522)
19(-3) Here We Go⦠Again 616,858 (-93,328)
21(-1) I Heard Youβre Married 577,914 (-69,360)
22(-4) Best Friends 576,251 (-87,948)
36(-12) Starry Eyes 490,852 (-82,046)
41(-13) Dawn FM 458,246 (-98,998)
46(-8) Donβt Break My Heart 422,750 (-63,111)
54(-11) A Tale By Quincy 381,935 (-72,465)
61(-14) Every Angel is Terrifying 363,568 (-67,089)
Total Streams: 9,623,627 (-13%)
Gunna - DS4EVER
24(-2) pushin P 549,921 (-54,737)
31(-5) thought i was playing 520,315 (-46,188)
59(-9) 25k jacket 364,506 (-46,014)
63(-11) mop 352,254 (-44,860)
74(-18) alotta cake 335,666 (-46,848)
83(-7) too easy 321,050 (-18,215)
84(-23) how you did that 320,531 (-41,958)
90(-25) poochie gown 310,454 (-45,794)
Total Streams for too easy: 544,946
Total Streams: 4,013,004 (-18%)
Others:
12(+1) GAYLE - abcdefu 746,329 (-11,398)
14(+3) Adele - Easy On Me 698,905 (-5,592)
16(+3) Imagine Dragons - Enemy 645,224 (-2,909)
18(+3) Doja Cat - Need to Know 627,726 (-3,584)
20(+3) Drake - Knife Talk 610,775 (+22,235)
23(+2) SZA - I Hate U 559,737 (-9,927)
25(+2) The Walters - I Love You So 549,134 (-11,220)
26(+4) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 546,813 (+2,896)
27(+6) Elton John, Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) 540,736 (+7,885)
28(+3) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 540,428 (+1,714)
29(=) Lil Durk - Broadway Girls 533,860 (-11,961)
30(+2) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 531,697 (-1,655)
32(+2) Stephanie Beatriz, Olga Merediz, Encanto Cast - The Family Madrigal 511,361 (+9,576)
33(+3) Diane Guerrero, Stephanie Beatriz - What Else Can I Do? 496,730 (+5,699)
34(+1) Doja Cat - Woman 496,348 (+66)
35(+6) Baby Keem - family ties 491,758 (+19,881)
37(=) NEIKED - Better Days 487,843 (-245)
38(+1) Ed Sheeran - Shivers 486,192 (+2,444)
40(=) THE ANXIETY, WILLOW, Tyler Cole - Meet Me At Our Spot 465,086 (-8,377)
42(+2) Post Malone - One Right Now 449,566 (+932)
43(+2) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Smokin Out The Window 440,663 (-4,135)
44(+2) Taylor Swift - All Too Well (10 Minute Version) 438,729 (-3,353)
45(+3) Playboi Carti - Sky 434,892 (+8,006)
47(+2) Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever 409,610 (-1,715)
48(+3) Sebastian Yatra - Dos Oruguitas 404,213 (+2,032)
49(+4) Stephanie Beatriz - Waiting on a Miracle 394,838 (+4,397)
51(+4) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 389,065 (+6,063)
57(+14) The Neighbourhood - Softcore 366,720 (+21,494)
58(+5) Doja Cat, The Weeknd - You Right 365,781 (+4,101)
60(+2) Dua Lipa - Levitating 363,958 (+2,065)
62(-2) Nardo Wick - Who Want Smoke?? 363,000 (-847)
65(+1) Justin Bieber - Ghost 350,889 (+844)
66(+3) Adele - Oh My God 350,877 (+4,280)
68(+4) Surf Curse - Freaks 343,332 (+861)
70(-2) Emmy Meli - I AM WOMAN 342,918 (-5,497)
72(+5) Farruko - Pepas 341,849 (+4,266)
76(+4) Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT 334,185 (+3,974)
79(+2) ACRAZE, Cherish - Do It To It 328,462 (+775)
80(+6) Beach House - Space Song 323,742 (+6,856)
82(=) Vundabar - Alien Blues 321,566 (-5,634)
87(+2) Jaymes Young - Infinity 315,797 (+1,509)
88(-10) Rod Wave - By You Side 315,393 (-21,872)
91(debut) SiM - The Rumbling (TV Size) 309,730
97(-3) CKay - love nwantiti (ah ah ah) 299,528 (-2,145)
98(-5) Juice WRLD - Already Dead 298,570 (-4,063)
99(-1) Polo G - Bad Man (Smooth Criminal) 298,410 (+4,005)
105(+2) Stephanie Beatriz, Olga Merediz, John Leguizamo, Adassa, Maluma, Encanto Cast - All of You 289,531 (+3,730)
106(-6) ERNEST - Flower Shops 287,613 (-4,466)
107(+1) Jordan Davis, Luke Bryan - Buy Dirt 286,758 (+1,145)
112(-2) Juice WRLD - Burn 280,065 (-2,513)
115(-1) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears Remix 277,522 (+191)
116(+4) A Boogie Wit da Hoodie - Man in the Mirror 277,439 (+5,778)
119(-10) Kodak Black - Love & War 274,371 (-10,327)
120(-15) Edison Lighthouse - Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes) 273,278 (-14,491)
124(+4) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 266,830 (+6,633)
128(-6) The Rare Occasions - Notion 264,762 (-14,491)
132(-6) Summer Walker - No Love 259,943 (-2,522)
134(-1) Joy Again - Looking Out For You 257,046 (+1,017)
135(-3) BoyWithUke - Toxic 256,272 (-1,046)
136(+13) Muni Long - Hrs and Hrs 255,674 (+10,924)
142(-1) Giveon - For Tonight 252,556 (+1,779)
143(-4) Oliver Tree - Life Goes On 251,760 (-212)
148(+3) Latto - Big Energy 247,944 (+4,980)
155(+12) Nardo Wick - Me or Sum 244,302 (+10,528)
158(-2) Shawn Mendes - It'll Be Okay 241,756 (-453)
166(+7) Ruth B. - Dandelions 236,495 (+6,208)
168(+3) Swedish House Mafia - Moth to a Flame 235,073 (+2,749)
173(-10) Juice WRLD - Wandered To LA 233,663 (-2,754)
177(+1) TiΓ«sto, Ava Max - The Motto 230,989 (+5,091)
180(-3) Morgan Wallen - Sand in My Boots 227,428 (+847)
193(-51) David Kushner - Miserable Man 218,328 (-32,081)
194(-11) Rainbow Kitten Surprise - It's Called: Freefall 218,047 (-4,221)
Total Streams of Save Your Tears: 544,352
Holy shit, would not have expected the new theme song to Attack on Titan to chart
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Post by Future Captain on Jan 13, 2022 4:25:50 GMT -5
Oh nice, great to see the new AoT theme song appearing. It's a great song IMO. Also, I think it's #3 most streamed alt/rock song for the day? Might debut at least in the billboard rock charts
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Post by notgoodenglish on Jan 13, 2022 5:56:47 GMT -5
My War from AoT final season part 1 deserves to debut that high as well last year ! Thats an EPIC SONG and still a banger.
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Post by Choco on Jan 13, 2022 10:22:04 GMT -5
The eventual AoT live action show is gonna be huge.
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