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Post by rainygirl on Mar 18, 2022 16:47:35 GMT -5
that cover sounded gimmicky like something they’d do on American Idol or something It literally was like that. It was his audition song for Britain’s Got Talent. it makes sense then . I didn’t know that |
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Post by Future Captain on Mar 19, 2022 1:17:32 GMT -5
That image of Stay jumping back to #2 is horrifying
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Post by After Minutes on Mar 19, 2022 1:48:29 GMT -5
Lil Durk - 7220: 10,270,069 Wait, that’s the Spotify streaming for an entire album? Oh how the times have changed. Six months ago, that would not have been good enough for #1 and #2 on the Spotify songs chart, as Stay and Industry Baby were streaming 12M, 13M on normal weeks. Wow, the Spotify collapse is starting to remind me of digital sales in 2016. That's a terrible take. Nowadays, songs in Spain, France, Italy, Germany, Poland, Brazil, Mexico, the UK can come close to or pass 1 million daily streams on a regular basis. That is far from a collapse |
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Post by atg on Mar 19, 2022 2:25:07 GMT -5
Lil Durk - 7220: 10,270,069 Wait, that’s the Spotify streaming for an entire album? Oh how the times have changed. Six months ago, that would not have been good enough for #1 and #2 on the Spotify songs chart, as Stay and Industry Baby were streaming 12M, 13M on normal weeks. Wow, the Spotify collapse is starting to remind me of digital sales in 2016. That's a terrible take. Nowadays, songs in Spain, France, Italy, Germany, Poland, Brazil, Mexico, the UK can come close to or pass 1 million daily streams on a regular basis. That is far from a collapse Even then to explain the lower US daily spotify numbers, I wonder if people are just branching out to other streaming platforms due to that whole controversy and it’s not just one platform but a whole split between all of them like Apple, Amazon, Tidal, Youtube, Deezer, etc. That explains the lack of movement with some areas on the chart and the more than lower numbers obviously. |
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Post by dodgerslakers94 on Mar 19, 2022 2:32:56 GMT -5
That image of Stay jumping back to #2 is horrifying Right? Now imagine the ARIA charts where Stay topped the charts in mid October and managed to hit #1 again last month. Trip out on this, Heat Waves was #1 in March 2021 and hit the summit once again and is currently the #1 song on the charts. |
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Mar 19, 2022 7:04:53 GMT -5
That's a terrible take. Nowadays, songs in Spain, France, Italy, Germany, Poland, Brazil, Mexico, the UK can come close to or pass 1 million daily streams on a regular basis. That is far from a collapse Even then to explain the lower US daily spotify numbers, I wonder if people are just branching out to other streaming platforms due to that whole controversy and it’s not just one platform but a whole split between all of them like Apple, Amazon, Tidal, Youtube, Deezer, etc. That explains the lack of movement with some areas on the chart and the more than lower numbers obviously. If ppl are simply jumping from one streaming service to another, then the cumulative streaming numbers, which are used for the charts, should be similar. Has anyone analyzed that? Is HITS weekly streaming chart fairly accurate compared to what Billboard reveals? I still think the issue is two-fold: 1) the lack of exciting music being released during the past 6 months; and 2) people digging deeper into catalog music. |
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Mar 19, 2022 12:43:32 GMT -5
That image of Stay jumping back to #2 is horrifying I hope it goes #1 next week. |
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Post by badrobot on Mar 19, 2022 15:18:01 GMT -5
Something about this chart era feels kinda like a more extreme version of 2003-2004, when the charts felt rather static, and soon thereafter digital sales exploded and shook things up.
It doesn't seem like there's any obvious change coming soon to music consumption habits like there was then, though. But it sure would be nice for there to be an industry shakeup, though. Not just for chart purposes but to actually get a more vibrant pop music scene.
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Post by Envoirment on Mar 19, 2022 16:59:53 GMT -5
The Grammys are around the corner so hopefully they might help shake the charts up a bit. Although the Grammys boost isn't anywhere what it used to be.
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Post by Choco on Mar 19, 2022 17:39:26 GMT -5
The fact that March is halfway done and they're gonna be rewarding music that is at least 6 months old by the time the show happens doesn't help.
Happier than Ever for example would have gotten a great boost back in January but now it's out of the chart. Maybe LNX can switch between IB and a new single?
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Post by Gary on Mar 19, 2022 17:56:49 GMT -5
Top 10 flashback for 2022 --- initial weeks of all the 2022 top 10s
January 15
This Week Last Week Two Weeks Ago Weeks Title, Artist peak
5 50 - 2 We Don't Talk About Bruno, Carolina Gaitan, Mauro Castillo, Adassa, Rhenzy Feliz, Diane Guerrero, Stephanie Beatriz & Encanto Cast 5
7 20 - 18 Cold Heart (PNAU Remix), Elton John & Dua Lipa 7
10 16 - 9 Super Gremlin, Kodak Black 10
January 22
7 - - 1 Pushin P, Gunna & Future Featuring Young Thug 7
9 11 - 8 abcdefu, GAYLE 9
January 29
10 14 - 4 Surface Pressure, Jessica Darrow 10
February 19
2 - - 1 Do We Have A Problem?, Nicki Minaj X Lil Baby 2
9 12 - 20 Ghost, Justin Bieber 9
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Post by 𝓲𝓽'𝓼.𝓰𝓿 on Mar 19, 2022 18:01:08 GMT -5
"Enemy" would make the first new Top 10 entry in over a month...yikes
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Post by kingvavis on Mar 19, 2022 19:43:09 GMT -5
Something about this chart era feels kinda like a more extreme version of 2003-2004, when the charts felt rather static, and soon thereafter digital sales exploded and shook things up. It doesn't seem like there's any obvious change coming soon to music consumption habits like there was then, though. But it sure would be nice for there to be an industry shakeup, though. Not just for chart purposes but to actually get a more vibrant pop music scene. Maybe if Billboard somehow adds Tik Tok, there could be a shakeup. |
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Post by Future Captain on Mar 19, 2022 19:49:49 GMT -5
The death of digital sales was probably one of the primary reason why the chart had become much more stagnant. With the way that sales were a "once and done" kind of thing, it will always be the metric with the greatest amount of rapid movement compared to radio and streaming. After all, one person buying a song once then playing it 500 times over the course of ten weeks will only be counted once, while streaming will count all 500 spread over than ten weeks.
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Post by mms82 on Mar 19, 2022 19:54:10 GMT -5
It’s also wild the way longevity has changed on Billboard
Like even a song like Bad Habits pre-Closer would be written up as once in a generation longevity and now it’s like… meh nothing compared to Stay and Blinding Lights
But at the same time, I don’t see Old Town Road’s record going anywhere anytime soon for most weeks at number one (not counting AIWFCIY), and Easy on Me is the only real 10 week hit we’ve had since The Box which feels like a song from an entirely different era
Like 2-10 is crazy stagnant but 1 is way less so
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Mar 19, 2022 20:23:54 GMT -5
But at the same time, I don’t see Old Town Road’s record going anywhere anytime soon for most weeks at number one (not counting AIWFCIY), and Easy on Me is the only real 10 week hit we’ve had since The Box which feels like a song from an entirely different era Like 2-10 is crazy stagnant but 1 is way less so For what it's worth, Heat Waves is predicted to be #1 with 220-225 charting points this week. Stay didn't drop below that point total until Week 29 or 30 in its run. This shows that if Stay was released a little later, it might have beaten the OTR record, and maybe even by a wide margin. Believe it or not, Stay lost some races for #1 when it had point totals like 302 (PTD), 360 (Butter), 341 (My Universe), and 331 (Industry Baby). |
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Post by otaviohmg on Mar 19, 2022 21:17:54 GMT -5
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Post by mms82 on Mar 19, 2022 22:07:23 GMT -5
Lol at everyone breathlessly talking about Sweetest Pie in last week’s thread talking about it being a sure fire number one, even talking about it being the year end number one 😂
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Mar 19, 2022 22:59:06 GMT -5
Gotta talk about something I guess
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Post by Darkest Hour on Mar 19, 2022 23:00:06 GMT -5
Cody Johnson should hit #1 on all-genre Digital Sales chart. Good for him.
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Post by mylo on Mar 20, 2022 3:06:12 GMT -5
How many weeks has ORN been stuck at 21? Wtf is going on with that song?
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Mar 20, 2022 6:05:01 GMT -5
How many weeks has ORN been stuck at 21? Wtf is going on with that song? more like #22 - 6 weeks 6-19-21-33-38-38-50-39-22-30-22-23-22-21-22-22-22-21 |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Mar 20, 2022 7:16:42 GMT -5
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Post by lugus15 on Mar 20, 2022 7:40:48 GMT -5
I don't understand why those in the 2-10 range don't even try to make a run for the #1 position when the points for said #1 are so weak. I mean a high profile remix of Super Gremlin or Ghost or That's What I Want or Abcdefu would grab them the #1
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Mar 20, 2022 8:18:30 GMT -5
I don't understand why those in the 2-10 range don't even try to make a run for the #1 position when the points for said #1 are so weak. I mean a high profile remix of Super Gremlin or Ghost or That's What I Want or Abcdefu would grab them the #1 It looks pretty weird now that Stay only spent 7 weeks at #1. It had 14 weeks of at least 300 charting points (no song has recorded a 300-point week post-holiday) and 28 or 29 weeks with more points than the current #1 (Heat Waves) this week. |
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Post by Dylan :) on Mar 20, 2022 9:11:19 GMT -5
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Mar 20, 2022 9:38:09 GMT -5
It looks like songs from 2009-2014 are being discounted on iTunes. Seeing these songs on the Top 100 of the iTunes chart brings back memories of peak digital sales era: Poker Face Just Dance Dark Horse Call Me Maybe Moves Like Jagger Party In the U.S.A. Counting Stars Bad Romance Roar Bang Bang Firework Cooler Than Me I'm Yours When I Was Your Man |
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Post by Soulsista on Mar 20, 2022 10:47:48 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 60, 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
March 24, 1962
01 01 Hey! Baby - Bruce Channel (3rd and final week at #1)
02 03 Don't Break The Heart That Loves You - Connie Francis
03 02 Midnight In Moscow - Kenny Ball & His Jazzmen
04 04 Let Me In - The Sensations
05 05 Duke Of Earl - Gene Chandler
06 18 Dream Baby - Roy Orbison
07 14 Slow Twistin' - Chubby Checker & Dee Dee Sharp
08 07 What's Your Name - Don & Juan
09 13 Twistin' The Night Away - Sam Cooke
10 06 Her Royal Majesty - James Darren
14 51 Good Luck Charm - Elvis Presley
March 25, 1967
01 02 Happy Together - The Turtles (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 06 Dedicated To The One I Love - The Mamas & The Papas
03 01 Penny Lane - The Beatles
04 08 There's a Kind Of Hush - Herman's Hermits
05 03 Baby I Need Your Lovin' - Johnny Rivers
06 07 Sock It To Me Baby - Joe Coffey & The Detroit Wheels
07 12 For What It's Worth (Stop, Hey What's That Sound) - Buffalo Springfield
08 09 My Cup Runneth Over - Ed Ames
09 04 Love Is Here And Now You're Gone - The Supremes
10 05 Ruby Tuesday - The Rolling Stones
March 25, 1972
01 02 A Horse With No Name - America (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 01 Heart Of Gold - Neil Young
03 03 The Lion Sleeps Tonight (Wimoweh) - Robert John
04 09 Puppy Love - Donny Osmond
05 06 Mother And Child Reunion - Paul Simon
06 04 Without You - Nilsson
07 08 The Way Of Love - Cher
08 11 Jungle Fever - The Chakachas
09 05 Everything I Own - Bread
10 14 I Gotcha - Joe Tex
14 33 Rockin' Robin - Michael Jackson
17 42 The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face - Roberta Flack
March 26, 1977
01 03 Rich Girl - Daryl Hall & John Oates (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 01 Love Theme From A Star Is Born (Evergreen) - Barbra Streisand
03 05 Dancing Queen - ABBA
04 08 Don't Give Up On Us - David Soul
05 09 Don't Leave Me This Way - Thelma Houston
06 02 Fly Like An Eagle - The Steve Miller Band
07 04 Night Moves - Bob Seger
08 11 The Things We Do For Love - 10cc
09 06 I Like Dreamin' - Kenny Nolan
10 07 Torn Between Two Lovers - Mary MacGregor
March 27, 1982
01 01 I Love Rock & Roll - Joan Jett & The Blackhearts (2nd of 7 weeks at #1)
02 02 Open Arms - Journey
03 06 We Got The Beat - The Go-Go's
04 04 That Girl - Stevie Wonder
05 05 Sweet Dreams - Air Supply
06 07 Make a Move On Me - Olivia Newton-John
07 03 Centerfold - The J. Geils Band
08 14 Chariots Of Fire - Vangelis
09 10 Pac-Man Fever - Buckner & Garcia
10 18 Freeze-Frame - The J. Geils Band
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Post by enwhy on Mar 20, 2022 10:53:53 GMT -5
I feel like a lot of the recent releases fall into the category of "B-lister Sweepstakes" (artist with little recent chat success trying to take advantage of the slow period).
-Katy Perry
-Camiela Cabello
-Kodak Black
-Nicki Minaj
-Charli XCX
-Charlie Puth
-Tate McRae (a bunch of underperforming singles since you broke me first)
-Normani (1st album supposedly soon, inconsistent success)
Anyone else I'm missing? Or anyone who fits this category who should try releasing something? I could see Lizzo, Halsey, Post Malone, or Shawn Mendes trying something soon)
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Post by Soulsista on Mar 20, 2022 11:01:53 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
March 28, 1987
01 01 Lean On Me - Club Nouveau (2nd and final week at #1)
02 03 Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now - Starship
03 02 Let's Wait Awhile - Janet Jackson
04 06 Tonight, Tonight, Tonight - Genesis
05 04 Mandolin Rain - Bruce Hornsby & The Range
06 05 Somewhere Out There - Linda Ronstadt & James Ingram
07 09 Come Go With Me - Expose
08 11 The Final Countdown - Europe
09 14 Don't Dream It's Over - Crowded House
10 17 I Knew You Were Waiting (For Me) - Aretha Franklin & George Michael
March 28, 1992
01 01 Save The Best For Last - Vanessa Williams (2nd of 5 weeks at #1)
02 03 Tears In Heaven - Eric Clapton
03 04 Remember The Time - Michael Jackson
04 02 To Be With You - Mr. Big
05 05 I'm Too Sexy - Right Said Fred
06 06 Masterpiece - Atlantic Starr
07 10 Breakin' My Heart (Pretty Brown Eyes) - Mint Condition
08 09 I Can't Dance - Genesis
09 07 I Love Your Smile - Shanice
10 13 Make It Happen - Mariah Carey
March 29, 1997
01 01 Can't Nobody Hold Me Down - Puff Daddy feat. Mase (2nd of 6 weeks at #1)
02 02 Wannabe - The Spice Girls
03 03 You Were Meant For Me - Jewel
04 05 In My Bed - Dru Hill
05 04 Un-Break My Heart - Toni Braxton
06 06 Every Time I Close My Eyes - Babyface
07 NE All By Myself - Celine Dion
08 09 For You I Will - Monica
09 16 I'll Be - Foxy Brown feat. Jay-Z
10 07 I Believe I Can Fly - R. Kelly
March 23, 2002
01 01 Ain't It Funny - Jennifer Lopez feat. Ja Rule (3rd of 6 weeks at #1)
02 02 Always On Time - Ja Rule feat. Ashanti
03 04 In The End - Linkin Park
04 03 How You Remind Me - Nickelback
05 05 Wherever You Will Go - The Calling
06 08 Blurry - Puddle Of Mudd
07 10 Can't Get You Out Of My Head - Kylie Minogue
08 12 What's Luv? - Fat Joe feat. Ashanti
09 07 What About Us? - Brandy
10 13 Oops (Oh My) - Tweet
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