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Post by tigerman2022 on Sept 11, 2023 16:22:12 GMT -5
I'm starting to think her radio success is nearing its end. Legacy act here she comes. And that's not a bad thing. She may be able to catch lightning in a bottle on occasion, but honestly I'm not sure. Now, that doesn't mean she won't still be a successful entertainer and performer, I just think her chart life is waning. I'm guessing Miranda isn't far behind. They have been trailblazers for sure, but the torch is pretty much being passed on. With that said, do your passion projects Carrie. Whatever you want to do. I'd love it if you would write from the heart either on your own or with a single co-writer. Something different than the scheduled writing sessions. Selfishly, I'd love a classic country sounding record, but you do you. Rock. Christian. Whatever. But, put your heart into it. I'm here for it.
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Post by daddy on Sept 11, 2023 17:25:54 GMT -5
I think my biggest fear I’ve always had for Carrie’s career is her going in a contemporary Christian direction haha
I feel a rock album is inevitable, but I’m unsure how successful that would be tbh
Personally, I really want her to give us a 90s/early 2000s country album, but would also be thrilled with a return to narrative heavy songs 👍🏽
I hope after CP/D&R they make a conscious effort to make a countrier record.
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Post by musicfan134 on Sept 11, 2023 19:27:28 GMT -5
I love me some Carrie. I voted for her on Idol. I bought each of her albums the day they came out up until Cry Pretty, and even then I streamed them the day they came out. But...I think my time of being a Carrie stan is nearing an end. I realize this isn't an airport and I don't need to announce my departure, that's not really my intention. It's actually quite sad for me to be making this post. But I haven't really been super invested in Carrie's music, honestly since the release of her Greatest Hits album. Storyteller was good but not my favorite. Cry Pretty is kind of in the same vein. And Denim & Rhinestones honestly has like 3 songs on it that I would rate above like a C range. I'm not much of a Christian so My Gift/My Saviour don't do anything for me. She still has released some bops (Chaser, Relapse on Storyteller, TSTWUTMLT and Backsliding on Cry Pretty, Burn on D&R, and Favorite Time of Year from her Christmas collection) but overall her output has been mid for me lately. I'm waiting for her to really blow me away again the way she did on Some Hearts, Carnival Ride, Play On, and Blown Away but I just feel like there's something missing from her music the last few years/decade.
And while I think age has something to do with it, I do think some of why she's starting to fade is the quality of her musical output. I really don't think I'm alone in my opinion, and I can tell even in how active (or not) this thread and Carrie's threads overall are. People blame the single choices but honestly I'm not really sure anything else released would have done much better on country radio. I can't quite put my finger on it but it just seems like Carrie is...not really invested in music anymore tbh.
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Post by ¤ Matthea ¤ on Sept 12, 2023 9:31:41 GMT -5
I do agree that Carrie's new music isn't as strong as it used to be. The singles from the last two country albums just weren't up to her previous standard. The change for the worse came when she switched labels, unfortunately.
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Post by zdm1998 on Sept 12, 2023 10:56:03 GMT -5
I will probably always love Carrie, and check out her music, but I did kind of experience a diminish in excitement of her music post Storyteller. Cry Pretty wasn't my favorite and D&R, while better than CP imo, wasn't on the same levels as albums 1-5. I honestly think the best thing she's done since her label change is My Gift/My Savior. I feel like "Out of That Truck" drew me back in some because it feels more like signature Carrie, compared to the other stuff she's put out at UMG.
I really don't want her working with Garcia anymore. I feel like a lot of what keeps the songs itself interesting is the production, and his production choices to me feels like something cheaply made on garage band minus My Savior.
I do hope next era she's a little more invested, because this era feels like she's been checked out... posting in your garden on album release day last year? Come on Carrie.
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Post by dbhmr on Sept 12, 2023 10:58:06 GMT -5
Speaking of music videos, where is "Out of That Truck"... I was hoping the deluxe would revitalize this era but it's not looking so good in the lead up to the release. Idol queens do even one thing to help your deluxe releases challenge.
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Post by freeman on Sept 12, 2023 13:03:17 GMT -5
Denim & Rhinestones is probably my fave Carrie era 😭
I think what’s changed over the years is her investment in her family. She has a life much more important to her than her music. I do wish the singles and videos were of higher quality but I adore the music.
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Post by desertfloods on Sept 12, 2023 17:40:44 GMT -5
Music quality and production aside (since they are subjective), I agree that what has substantially changed in recent years is the shift in her priority. She made a choice herself to move into legacy act phase, by being less invested in getting new music out, promo, charts etc. Am sure that she also plans her tour/performances around her family schedule.
It's all good as long as she is happy about it. But as a fan, I have accepted that what we hope and want for her, is likely not what she wants for herself anymore.
Hard for me to stay excited for this era when Carrie herself has mostly checked out tbh. Not sure if there is any point in releasing the deluxe. Kind of feels like it's being released for the sake of just having something out there.
As for music video, I don't have any hope of a good video. The Carrie who wrote music video treatment and brought interesting concepts/ideas to epic videos in the past, is just not around anymore.
Feels like such a downer post. 😔
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Post by daddy on Sept 12, 2023 17:47:24 GMT -5
Denim & Rhinestones is probably my fave Carrie era 😭 I think what’s changed over the years is her investment in her family. She has a life much more important to her than her music. I do wish the singles and videos were of higher quality but I adore the music. While D&R was my least favorite Carrie era, I do agree 100% on the second part of your post. While the last 2 country eras aren’t typically viewed as career highs (I loved CP, didn’t love D&R - although I feel more fans feel the reverse), I feel like the single choices when there were much stronger options have left a particularly bad taste. Especially with how long country chart runs are these days. This is one area that I think they’ll focus on getting right moving forward. Pulling the plug on “HMH” and releasing “OOTT” was a good sign. It's a career first for Carrie. I’m sure they’ll want to avoid a similar scenario in the future. I feel like there’s been 2 main shifts with Carrie since moving to UMG: 1. More attention on her abilities as a performer. Which is awesome and I think has paid off. She really is regarded as an entertainer now (with or without the CMA award), too, along with being one of the best vocalists in any genre. 2. More artistic freedom. Which is awesome, when your tastes align with Carrie’s vast array of musical influences. I know that was a talking point for her with D&R (CP had its moments as well), but I really just want Country music from Carrie (not even classic, but country pop). I know I’ve read UMG’s contract allows for more artistic freedom. And I’d wish that for any artist. I just want Carrie to lean harder into her Country roots. And we can’t blame David too much, Carrie has co-produced these albums (I actually like the production for the most part, can be a bit loud, but have always felt that way about Carrie’s music). But they really hit a home run with My Savior. I’m so interested to see what Carrie does next. I think she could really crush a 90s country album and it could do wonders for her career at this point. With all these thoughts out, I’m a fan for life and - like with any artist - I want Carrie to create the music that makes her happy. She simply has a voice that is so uniquely special, and I’m looking forward to hearing it for a long time.
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Post by Hil on Sept 12, 2023 18:58:34 GMT -5
I'll always be a Carrie fan. Ive honestly loved every album. My least favorite from her as a whole is probably BA, and I still like it. i think it's just top heavy. The singles are awesome, but the rest, aside from WAW, is kinda filler to me. I also don't really enjoy any of the newbies at all so, yea, I was in my element of country when The Band Perry, Sugarland, Lady A, Carrie, Brad etc were leading the way. The music now is just blah to my taste. Just me.
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Post by daddy on Sept 13, 2023 2:30:47 GMT -5
I'll always be a Carrie fan. Ive honestly loved every album. My least favorite from her as a whole is probably BA, and I still like it. i think it's just top heavy. The singles are awesome, but the rest, aside from WAW, is kinda filler to me. I also don't really enjoy any of the newbies at all so, yea, I was in my element of country when The Band Perry, Sugarland, Lady A, Carrie, Brad etc were leading the way. The music now is just blah to my taste. Just me. This is an excellent example of what I mean about the importance of single choices. Many fans consider BA a career high era, even though many admit it's her most uneven album. We don't think of that unless we discuss the album quality specifically. We just think of the 1-2-3-4 perfect punch of GG, BA, TBC, and SYA. Granted, it was obvious Carrie invested so much time to her career this era, so that’s also a big contributing factor to what made it such a special era. I think we’d all view this era much, much more positively if we got tracks likd VH, Burn, and SDK as singles. I think we'll get another narrative-heavy album at some point. I just think after BA singles and ST’s theme, with CP/D&R she was trying not to get pigeon-holed. Granted, there are limitless narratives to explore that don't end in death 🙃
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Post by 14887fan on Sept 13, 2023 10:51:03 GMT -5
Says a lot that her residency show is the only original Resorts World residency show still booking new shows. Katy’s and Luke’s are both wrapping for good.
I know there’s continued discussion about her musical progression and quality/care put towards her output, but there’s no denying that she is a strong ticket seller. Even on her weakest album era commercially, she still had a stellar arena tour.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Sept 13, 2023 11:19:02 GMT -5
CP is my favorite album, while sonically I get why it’s grouped with D&R, I think doing so is an injustice to CP. CP is by far Carrie’s most personal album, and will probably be the most personal one she ever does. Carrie dug deep for CP and it came from a place of pain and grief; she opened her heart to the world for the first time through her music, and her vocals stood out on the album for the same reasons. D&R is her fun album which came during a happy time in her life, so I just cannot pair them together quite like some have here…
The Arista years were wonderful, and the music was always amazing, but were we getting truly authentic Carrie then? Or are we getting authentic Carrie now? I’d argue the latter. Carrie’s Idol experience alone shows she was always bigger and better than any one genre could/would allow her to be, so she skirted the lines and pushed the boundaries throughout the Arista years, still maintaining a predominantly country sound; working under the pressures of selling albums and scoring country hits. There was a clear formula during those years, and it worked. Even some questionable single choices became sizable hits. The entire time she was with Arista every radio single was chosen and budgeted for before the fans even knew an album was coming. The goal then was to pile up hits, and they did just that; but that probably didn’t allow Carrie total artistic freedom.
Nevertheless, it all paid off, the pressure is off now. If she never has a radio hit again, she will still always be one of the most successful country artists in the history of the genre, and one of the most notable crossover artists of the genre as well. Obviously I want the hits and awards as much as the next fan, but she has done it all dozens of times over, and now she’s a solidified legend in her third year of a Vegas Residency having sold 85 millions records. She can now do whatever she wants; like open for G&R, release special projects, headline pretty much any festival she wants, etc… Which is why I think the last two albums are the most authentic Carrie we’ve seen. She has complete control over her artistry now; all the influences she gushes over come through the most on her later projects, and neither album fits within the confines of any one or two genres - which is really the Carrie we all got to know on Idol, IMO; the Carrie who won over America with covers of everyone from Heart, Air Supply, Pat Benetar, and Elvis; to Martina, Shania, and Linda Ronstadt.
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Post by musicfan134 on Sept 13, 2023 17:19:06 GMT -5
CP is my favorite album, while sonically I get why it’s grouped with D&R, I think doing so is an injustice to CP. CP is by far Carrie’s most personal album, and will probably be the most personal one she ever does. Carrie dug deep for CP and it came from a place of pain and grief; she opened her heart to the world for the first time through her music, and her vocals stood out throughout the album for the same reasons. D&R is her fun album the came during a happy time in her life, so I just cannot pair them together quite like some have here… The Arista years were wonderful, and the music was always amazing, but were we getting truly authentic Carrie then? Or are we getting authentic Carrie now? I’d argue the latter. Carrie’s Idol experience alone shows she was always bigger and better than any one genre could/would allow her to be, so she skirted the lines and pushed the boundaries throughout the Arista years, still maintaining a predominantly country sound; working under the pressures of selling albums and scoring country hits. There was a clear formula during those years, and it worked. Even some questionable single choices became sizable hits. The entire time she was with Arista every radio single was chosen and budgeted for before the fans even knew an album was coming. The goal then was to pile up hits, and they did just that; but that probably didn’t allow Carrie total artistic freedom. Nevertheless, it all paid off, the pressure is off now. If she never has a radio hit again, she will still always be one of the most successful country artists in the history of the genre, and one of the most notable crossover artists of the genre as well. Obviously I want the hits and awards as much as the next fan, but she has done it all dozens of times over, and now she’s a solidified legend in her third year of a Vegas Residency having sold 85 millions records. She can now do whatever she wants; like open for G&R, release special projects, headline pretty much any festival she wants, etc… Which is why I think the last two albums are the most authentic Carrie we’ve seen. She has complete control over her artistry now; all the influences she gushes over come through the most on her later projects, and neither album fits within the confines of any one or two genres - which is really the Carrie we all got to know on Idol, IMO; the Carrie who won over America with covers of everyone from Heart, Air Supply, Pat Benetar, and Elvis; to Martina, Shania, and Linda Ronstadt. I agree that CP is her most personal album to date...and I agree that we are getting the most authentic Carrie now. But unfortunately I don't think that necessarily makes the quality of the music good. I wish I felt differently. I really do. But that's where I'm at tbh. I'm beating a dead horse here and obviously I will continue to check out Carrie's music but that's where I'm at right this moment.
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Post by kath2833 on Sept 13, 2023 18:30:43 GMT -5
I believe that all the songs chosen in her greatest hits album are the best songs from her first 4 albums. In terms of her albums as a whole from start to finish, I think storyteller & cry pretty are better than albums 1-4. I also love D&R so I’m excited for the deluxe.
I’ll always be a Carrie fan because of her personality & voice. From what I know of her, she seems like an amazing person. Her incredible vocals are made for any genre be it country, pop, R&B, rock, gospel etc. so I’m glad she’s impressing a variety of people with her talent.
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Post by abbeyjones11 on Sept 14, 2023 8:03:03 GMT -5
Carrie on Today Show so far:
Out Of That Truck She Don't Know Before He Cheats
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Post by zdm1998 on Sept 15, 2023 10:35:12 GMT -5
I think we might be getting a more authentic Carrie now in terms of music, but while that may be true, her entire career where she became Carrie Underwood is housed on albums 1-5. I don't think people are wrong for being disappointed in the change in albums 6 & 7, because that is not the sound they became a fan on. I do think she lost a lot of her more casual fans during then, as not only did her singles stop performing as they used to, but the sales of her singles is noticeably different as well. Especially on D&R.
There is stuff though from her new material that I wish they would have went with that was just better from the album.
I think
She Don't Know Burn Velvet Heartbreak Out of That Truck Crazy Angels
Were much more interesting and would have been received better than the songs they went with. (At least they somewhat redeemed themselves with OOTT, even if it was after all her momentum has already been sucked up.)
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Post by popwizard on Sept 15, 2023 11:14:17 GMT -5
First, I love Carrie. I've seen her live on "Storyteller", "Cry Pretty Tour", "Denim & Rhinestones", and recently in Vegas.
I think Carrie's radio success took a nosedive around "Cry Pretty" when she started having more creative control. "Love Wins", in particular, is a song Carrie loves, so I'm glad she released it. But I feel like that was a significant turning point in her radio success after "Cry Pretty" underperformed (though it's still a signature song, especially live). "Southbound" was almost a guaranteed hit, even though her heart wasn't into that song.
"My Gift" and "My Savior" were stellar! I think they give her the option of moving into a more contemporary Christian route (and there's a lot of commercial success in that lane, like Lauren Daigle and even Kanye West with "Jesus is King").
I actually hope she doesn't go the rock route. I think Christian is really where her heart is and where she shines. Also, I'd love for her to lean more into Country. Country is big in popular culture nowadays.
I believe a smart duet for pop/country radio would benefit her.
I feel like she's reached her Beyonce stage. She might not have successful radio songs now, but she's renowned as a top live performer. I think her label is pushing her to showcase how great a live performer Carrie truly is, as seen with the Howard Stern interview, Vegas shows, and the GnR tour.
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Post by schnetzka on Sept 15, 2023 20:38:39 GMT -5
It does make me wonder how much of her first few albums was the music she wanted to make versus what her label wanted. Because while I'm sure Carrie enjoyed the music she was creating, they are definitely not the same style as the music she helps co-produce these days.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Sept 15, 2023 21:28:45 GMT -5
So excited she’s going back to Vegas next year and I know she has other gigs scheduled in 2024, but I wonder if there are any plans for a tour sometime next year too?
I highly doubt it… but why bother with a deluxe edition if there isn’t more to the plan?
Thoughts?…
I saw the announcement of George Strait’s stadium tour with Stapleton and LBT, but damn do I wish Carrie was a part of that! That’s exactly the kind of gig I think would be great for Carrie!
I have a lot of weddings coming up so I won’t be able to travel to see her, so I’m hoping we at least get some more show announcements, if not a tour of some sort.
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Post by 14887fan on Sept 16, 2023 10:33:51 GMT -5
I don’t think she’s touring next year.
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Post by zdm1998 on Sept 16, 2023 11:08:13 GMT -5
Yeah I don’t think she tours next year. Next year will probably be relatively quiet. I expect the Cody duet to come next year after his single and OOTT are finished at radio. The duet will probably take us through 2024, with the lead to CU8 in early 2025, tour will probably happen around then too.
The deluxe edition won’t do a lot chart wise for the album. I’m not even expecting it to re-enter the top 100 all genre chart, but what it is doing is bringing in more streams for D&R as a whole. All three of the deluxe song have streamed miles better than some of the OG tracks. The album needed at least one song that would be a strong consistent streamer, and OOTT is looking promising at being able to do that. This will help drag the album to a gold certification.
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Post by abbeyjones11 on Sept 16, 2023 12:01:26 GMT -5
I don't think that it would be completely surprising if we at least see the lead single from the next album after the Cody duet. I mean, why not? Especially if the Cody is the hit that we all are expecting (and all want, lol). Maybe this time next year we get the lead single, with the album coming tbe spring after that...if Carrie wants to take a little time. I would love another Fall release! Not a September release, though...way to close to the Grammy cutoff, imo. More like an October or November release.
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Post by zdm1998 on Sept 16, 2023 16:40:22 GMT -5
I can only hope the duet with Cody could mean that she’s opting for a more traditional country sound for the next record. Maybe wishful thinking.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Sept 16, 2023 19:41:42 GMT -5
She’s planning to be a full time gardener and a casual sourdough baker
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Post by carriefan15 on Sept 17, 2023 17:23:40 GMT -5
She’s planning to be a full time gardener and a casual sourdough baker World Gardening Awards here we come!! I wonder if they’re fan voted?? 🤔🤔
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