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Post by rimetm on Apr 2, 2022 11:33:23 GMT -5
So, the one thing nobody mentioned yet that adds some important context to this week in particular is that credit additions are based on consumption activity. In other words, if a new version of the song has the lion's share of sales and streams, that's all it needs to get its credit added. With how much of a gain "Big Energy" had in Streaming (over 100%) and Sales (well over 100%), the prospect of the remix comprising more than 50% of the total is viable.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 2, 2022 11:49:33 GMT -5
So, the one thing nobody mentioned yet that adds some important context to this week in particular is that credit additions are based on consumption activity. In other words, if a new version of the song has the lion's share of sales and streams, that's all it needs to get its credit added. With how much of a gain "Big Energy" had in Streaming (over 100%) and Sales (well over 100%), the prospect of the remix comprising more than 50% of the total is viable. The remix version likely sold more than the original, but I don't think I've seen where the remix version was higher on any streaming platform? The remix version was also only available for 4 days of the chart week, so even if it had more streams for a day or two somewhere, it would have to be way ahead to make up for the 3 days it wasn't available.
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Post by kindofbiased on Apr 2, 2022 12:06:21 GMT -5
It'd be kind of hilarious if this song that everyone's banking on having a big debut and shaking up the hot 100 actually debuted really low just because it was so big on Thursday lmao well this is probably happening isn't it lol
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Post by iHype. on Apr 2, 2022 12:12:21 GMT -5
From my understanding, awarding remix credits can be done if the remix has either 1. higher share of Hot 100 points or 2. higher share of Hot 100 points with airplay removed from the equation.
Say So (solo) for example was already a top 5 airplay smash and def probably had almost entirely all of its airplay from the original. That combined with the streams/sales for the solo would've given that version the higher points in total. However, the remix had a considerable lead in sales/streaming points due to the fan campaign.
Same with 34+35, Savage Love, Perfect. Also probably the same case with S&M, Till The World Ends, etc back in the day.
The logic is the most popular version of the song should be credited, but also if a remix is clearly driving a large part of the song's success aside from airplay then an exception can be made. Mostly since airplay will only ever play 1 version to begin with, and overtime that may not be the most popular version with the actual public anymore. (Example, All Too Well 10 min version is clearly the most popular version with the public these days but obviously radio would never play that version if it was to become a radio single)
Big Energy's remix will not have more total points or more points removing airplay. Mariah's fanbase isn't mass purchasing webstore copies and 5k~ sales on iTunes these days is relatively nothing in comparison to the streaming lead of the solo version.
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Post by Choco on Apr 2, 2022 13:04:49 GMT -5
Harry Styles could debut at lower region this week? It's not Friday yet in the US. Maybe? Let's see Spotify's next update. He's a big deal but I don't feel Adele levels of hype. He's certainly above Ed Sheeran's current hype and a similar release hour did not yield an early debut for Shivers or BH. Tl;dr we'll see but don't bet on it. Lmao didn't age well fuck u Choco
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Post by 85la on Apr 2, 2022 13:18:06 GMT -5
I have a strong feeling her label will try to arrange this for her and that Billboard will oblige, whether or not she has the majority of points. This is Mariah we're talking about, and they wouldn't want to snub her. It seems they've done this for other artists as well; the rules can be somewhat flexible at the right price. You sound so naive and ridiculous with this mess. Let me unpack the nonsense you are insinuating by what you just said: 1. Billboard accepts bribes for chart placement2. Mariah Carey's chart positions are bought by her label 3. If Billboard follows their own rule, they are "snubbing" an artist who doesn't receive credit (or this only applies to Mariah?) 4. Mariah's #2 peaks are all snubs, because Billboard snubbed her by not just giving her the #1 If you are going to say rando crap like "it seems they've done this for other artists" - at least provide a photocopy of a fake receipt to back it up. The cringiest post in awhile, congratulations. Lord, let me remind you that I did not mean for my post to be particularly derisive, or anti-Mariah, I was just laying out the situation of how I think it would possibly go. The tenor and defensiveness of your response is unwarranted. In addition to the reasons and scenarios everyone else has provided, one important thing to add, if you want "receipts," is that Billboard HAS actually accepted bribes for chart placements in the past. It's well documented that in the late 70s, Billboard's chart manager at the time ("Robert Whardlow" or something I believe, I'm not exactly sure because he wasn't very well-known and his name isn't easily google-able, maybe someone can help me with that), accepted bribes for several Bee Gee's chart placements, as well as others I believe. Yes this was a long time ago and they probably operate under stricter standards now, but obviously your assertion that this has never happened with this company before is erroneous, and it's not completely inconceivable that they could, at least to some degree, go down or currently go down this route. If Billboard's crediting rules for remixes were so clear-cut, why is there such doubt and confusion amongst us so many times when major artists' remixes come out? They are definitely nontransparent and inconsistent at times. It seems that you are trying to paint this alternate-reality narrative and are indeed the somewhat naive one yourself.
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Post by GW on Apr 2, 2022 16:14:48 GMT -5
You sound so naive and ridiculous with this mess. Let me unpack the nonsense you are insinuating by what you just said: 1. Billboard accepts bribes for chart placement2. Mariah Carey's chart positions are bought by her label 3. If Billboard follows their own rule, they are "snubbing" an artist who doesn't receive credit (or this only applies to Mariah?) 4. Mariah's #2 peaks are all snubs, because Billboard snubbed her by not just giving her the #1 If you are going to say rando crap like "it seems they've done this for other artists" - at least provide a photocopy of a fake receipt to back it up. The cringiest post in awhile, congratulations. Lord, let me remind you that I did not mean for my post to be particularly derisive, or anti-Mariah, I was just laying out the situation of how I think it would possibly go. The tenor and defensiveness of your response is unwarranted. In addition to the reasons and scenarios everyone else has provided, one important thing to add, if you want "receipts," is that Billboard HAS actually accepted bribes for chart placements in the past. It's well documented that in the late 70s, Billboard's chart manager at the time ("Robert Whardlow" or something I believe, I'm not exactly sure because he wasn't very well-known and his name isn't easily google-able, maybe someone can help me with that), accepted bribes for several Bee Gee's chart placements, as well as others I believe. Yes this was a long time ago and they probably operate under stricter standards now, but obviously your assertion that this has never happened with this company before is erroneous, and it's not completely inconceivable that they could, at least to some degree, go down or currently go down this route. If Billboard's crediting rules for remixes were so clear-cut, why is there such doubt and confusion amongst us so many times when major artists' remixes come out? They are definitely nontransparent and inconsistent at times. It seems that you are trying to paint this alternate-reality narrative and are indeed the somewhat naive one yourself. You don't know who I am or what I do to say whether my response is warranted or not. You don't get to decide how someone else should feel about what you said in a public space. You said what you said, and I said what I said in response to it. Sorry if my tone was too much for you, but you'll be ok. I'm not the first to provide you with a mirror on this board. If you re-read your original post that I responded to, you are talking in the present tense with a "strong feeling" and proceeded to say that you think Billboard will disregard their own rule in 2022 as to not snub Mariah. "This is Mariah we're talking about." And that they can do whatever for the right price. You chose your words. I chose mine to tell you that your suggestion is ridiculous. Sorry if it wasn't clear that I responded in reference to your current take on the current chart, not something that happened 40+ years ago. That also had nothing to do with adding an artist credit via a remix in 2022. And the other people's examples were also not relevant to this, either, and I responded to "everyone else" already. Yes, 4-5 decades ago was under totally different circumstances, as you admitted yourself, and I never said that the charts weren't a relative mess back in the day, or that a certain bad individual didn't take advantage of his position. It was a whole different world, with very-unscientific means of reporting data. It's still not precedent for Billboard adding an artist credit to a hit song without merit, disregarding their own public rule, in front of a very connected, loud, following of artists, labels, and fans, all obsessed with numbers in 2022. They've pissed off quite a few people in their years of charting, which doesn't really bode well for your theory that they are taking bribes. You mentioned that maybe I have an "alternate reality" - but I'm not the one expressing a conspiracy theory to others. But I get it, I made you feel like you have to defend yourself so you tried it. It's just an interesting choice of words coming from someone who speaks of a conspiracy theory so confidently. I have not theorized about anything on this board today. You have. Again, you can say what you want, but you can't control how others will react to it. Your opinion on whether or not Billboard is transparent enough in regards to crediting is what it is -- your opinion. And maybe others share that opinion. That's fine. However, it's not really a surprise there's still confusion, when board mainstays like you say things like what you said in that original post. You are feeding -- and now trying to justify -- a false narrative (until proven otherwise), with a straight face, that in the present, Billboard is doing shady things for certain artists and/or labels, when you and I both know that they are under intense scrutiny every week these days. The data is documented through different agencies, and available to those who subscribe to it, so I don't know why Billboard would hide these days, especially on account of one of thousands of artists. Feel free to think I'm naive for calling you out on what I believe is a damaging, unfounded narrative that continues to pollute this thread and social media. Or for pointing out that if what you're saying were true, everyone would be doing it, along with the other insinuations that don't really make sense in our current reality. This really has nothing to do with Mariah specifically, it's just that your post was specifically about her with a very odd implication that she somehow has influence over the decisions Billboard's chart department makes. It's still a very odd thing to suggest, imo, and not only reflects poorly on her (or any artist's) chart legacy, but on Billboard and the entire legacy of their premier chart. It's not perfect, never has been. Nothing ever is. Mistakes have been made. Crimes may have been committed. But in today's world, I think we owe the chart we all follow a little more respect, and the benefit of the doubt, opposed to making it seem like the whole thing is just a wishy-washy fraud that's able to be bought.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Apr 2, 2022 19:03:15 GMT -5
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Post by rimetm on Apr 2, 2022 19:17:25 GMT -5
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Post by livelightning on Apr 2, 2022 21:28:35 GMT -5
I hope stay holds on to #2
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Post by atg on Apr 2, 2022 22:22:18 GMT -5
Lord, let me remind you that I did not mean for my post to be particularly derisive, or anti-Mariah, I was just laying out the situation of how I think it would possibly go. The tenor and defensiveness of your response is unwarranted. In addition to the reasons and scenarios everyone else has provided, one important thing to add, if you want "receipts," is that Billboard HAS actually accepted bribes for chart placements in the past. It's well documented that in the late 70s, Billboard's chart manager at the time ("Robert Whardlow" or something I believe, I'm not exactly sure because he wasn't very well-known and his name isn't easily google-able, maybe someone can help me with that), accepted bribes for several Bee Gee's chart placements, as well as others I believe. Yes this was a long time ago and they probably operate under stricter standards now, but obviously your assertion that this has never happened with this company before is erroneous, and it's not completely inconceivable that they could, at least to some degree, go down or currently go down this route. If Billboard's crediting rules for remixes were so clear-cut, why is there such doubt and confusion amongst us so many times when major artists' remixes come out? They are definitely nontransparent and inconsistent at times. It seems that you are trying to paint this alternate-reality narrative and are indeed the somewhat naive one yourself. You don't know who I am or what I do to say whether my response is warranted or not. You don't get to decide how someone else should feel about what you said in a public space. You said what you said, and I said what I said in response to it. Sorry if my tone was too much for you, but you'll be ok. I'm not the first to provide you with a mirror on this board. If you re-read your original post that I responded to, you are talking in the present tense with a "strong feeling" and proceeded to say that you think Billboard will disregard their own rule in 2022 as to not snub Mariah. "This is Mariah we're talking about." And that they can do whatever for the right price. You chose your words. I chose mine to tell you that your suggestion is ridiculous. Sorry if it wasn't clear that I responded in reference to your current take on the current chart, not something that happened 40+ years ago. That also had nothing to do with adding an artist credit via a remix in 2022. And the other people's examples were also not relevant to this, either, and I responded to "everyone else" already. Yes, 4-5 decades ago was under totally different circumstances, as you admitted yourself, and I never said that the charts weren't a relative mess back in the day, or that a certain bad individual didn't take advantage of his position. It was a whole different world, with very-unscientific means of reporting data. It's still not precedent for Billboard adding an artist credit to a hit song without merit, disregarding their own public rule, in front of a very connected, loud, following of artists, labels, and fans, all obsessed with numbers in 2022. They've pissed off quite a few people in their years of charting, which doesn't really bode well for your theory that they are taking bribes. You mentioned that maybe I have an "alternate reality" - but I'm not the one expressing a conspiracy theory to others. But I get it, I made you feel like you have to defend yourself so you tried it. It's just an interesting choice of words coming from someone who speaks of a conspiracy theory so confidently. I have not theorized about anything on this board today. You have. Again, you can say what you want, but you can't control how others will react to it. Your opinion on whether or not Billboard is transparent enough in regards to crediting is what it is -- your opinion. And maybe others share that opinion. That's fine. However, it's not really a surprise there's still confusion, when board mainstays like you say things like what you said in that original post. You are feeding -- and now trying to justify -- a false narrative (until proven otherwise), with a straight face, that in the present, Billboard is doing shady things for certain artists and/or labels, when you and I both know that they are under intense scrutiny every week these days. The data is documented through different agencies, and available to those who subscribe to it, so I don't know why Billboard would hide these days, especially on account of one of thousands of artists. Feel free to think I'm naive for calling you out on what I believe is a damaging, unfounded narrative that continues to pollute this thread and social media. Or for pointing out that if what you're saying were true, everyone would be doing it, along with the other insinuations that don't really make sense in our current reality. This really has nothing to do with Mariah specifically, it's just that your post was specifically about her with a very odd implication that she somehow has influence over the decisions Billboard's chart department makes. It's still a very odd thing to suggest, imo, and not only reflects poorly on her (or any artist's) chart legacy, but on Billboard and the entire legacy of their premier chart. It's not perfect, never has been. Nothing ever is. Mistakes have been made. Crimes may have been committed. But in today's world, I think we owe the chart we all follow a little more respect, and the benefit of the doubt, opposed to making it seem like the whole thing is just a wishy-washy fraud that's able to be bought.
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Post by Push The Button on Apr 2, 2022 22:41:02 GMT -5
Dad gum das a lot of energy to spend on an invisible person on the internet
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Post by Soulsista on Apr 3, 2022 10:24:30 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 60, 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:
April 7, 1962
01 03 Johnny Angel - Shelley Fabares (1st of 2 weeks at #1) 02 01 Don't Break The Heart That Loves You - Connie Francis 03 09 Good Luck Charm - Elvis Presley 04 06 Slow Twistin' - Chubby Checker w/Dee Dee Sharp 05 04 Dream Baby - Roy Orbison 06 02 Hey! Baby - Bruce Channel 07 05 Midnight In Moscow - Kenny Ball & His Jazzmen 08 12 Young World - Rick Nelson 09 11 Love Letters - Kitty Lester 10 15 Mashed Potato Time - Dee Dee Sharp
April 8, 1967
01 01 Happy Together - The Turtles (3rd and final week at #1) 02 02 Dedicated To The One I Love - The Mamas & The Papas 03 09 Somethin' Stupid - Nancy & Frank Sinatra 04 05 Bernadette - The Four Tops 05 06 This Is My Song - Petula Clark 06 03 Penny Lane - The Beatles 07 10 Western Union - The Five Americans 08 12 I Think We're Alone Now - Tommy James & The Shondells 09 19 A Little Bit Me, A Little Bit You - The Monkees 10 04 There's a Kind Of Hush - Herman's Hermits
April 8, 1972
01 01 A Horse With No Name - America (3rd and final week at #1) 02 02 Heart Of Gold - Neil Young 03 10 The First Time Ever I Saw Your Face - Roberta Flack 04 06 I Gotcha - Joe Tex 05 09 Rockin' Robin - Michael Jackson 06 03 Puppy Love - Donny Osmond 07 04 Mother And Child Reunion - Paul Simon 08 08 Jungle Fever - The Chakachas 09 11 In The Rain - The Dramatics 10 05 The Lion Sleeps Tonight (Wimoweh) - Robert John
April 9, 1977
01 02 Dancing Queen - ABBA (1st and only week at #1) 02 03 Don't Give Up On Us - David Soul 03 04 Don't Leave Me This Way - Thelma Houston 04 01 Rich Girl - Daryl Hall & John Oates 05 06 Southern Nights - Glen Campbell 06 07 The Things We Do For Love - 10cc 07 08 Hotel California - The Eagles 08 09 I've Got Love On My Mind - Natalie Cole 09 05 Love Theme From A Star Is Born (Evergreen) - Barbra Streisand 10 12 So In To You - The Atlanta Rhythm Section
April 10, 1982
01 01 I Love Rock & Roll - Joan Jett & The Blackhearts (4th of 7 weeks at #1) 02 03 We Got The Beat - The Go-Go's 03 06 Chariots Of Fire - Vangelis 04 07 Freeze-Frame - The J. Geils Band 05 05 Make a Move On Me - Olivia Newton-John 06 08 Don't Talk To Strangers - Rick Springfield 07 02 Open Arms - Journey 08 04 That Girl - Stevie Wonder 09 10 Key Largo - Bertie Higgins 10 12 Do You Believe In Love - Huey Lewis & The News
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Post by Soulsista on Apr 3, 2022 10:41:00 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
April 11, 1987
01 01 Nothing's Gonna Stop Us Now - Starship (2nd and final week at #1) 02 02 Lean On Me - Club Nouveau 03 06 I Knew You Were Waiting (For Me) - Aretha Franklin & George Michael 04 03 Tonight, Tonight, Tonight - Genesis 05 07 Don't Dream It's Over - Crowded House 06 05 Come Go With Me - Expose 07 12 Sign O' The Times - Prince 08 11 Midnight Blue - Lou Gramm 09 10 Let's Go! - Wang Chung 10 14 The Finer Things - Steve Winwood
April 11, 1992
01 01 Save The Best For Last - Vanessa Williams (4th of 5 weeks at #1) 02 02 Tears In Heaven - Eric Clapton 03 04 Masterpiece - Atlantic Starr 04 03 Remember The Time - Michael Jackson 05 08 Make It Happen - Mariah Carey 06 07 Breakin' My Heart (Pretty Brown Eyes) - Mint Condition 07 09 I Can't Dance - Genesis 08 06 I'm Too Sexy - Right Said Fred 09 14 Ain't 2 Proud 2 Beg - TLC 10 24 Bohemian Rhapsody - Queen
12 61 Jump - Kris Kross
April 12, 1997
01 01 Can't Nobody Hold Me Down - Puff Daddy feat. Mase (4th of 6 weeks at #1) 02 02 Wannabe - The Spice Girls 03 03 You Were Meant For Me - Jewel 04 04 All By Myself - Celine Dion 05 09 For You I Will - Monica 06 05 In My Bed - Dru Hill 07 08 I'll Be - Foxy Brown feat. Jay-Z 08 06 Every Time I Close My Eyes - Babyface 09 07 Un-Break My Heart - Toni Braxton 10 13 I Want You - Savage Garden
17 NE Where Have All The Cowboys Gone? - Paula Cole
April 6, 2002
01 01 Ain't It Funny - Jennifer Lopez feat. Ja Rule (5th of 6 weeks at #1) 02 05 What's Luv? - Fat Joe feat. Ashanti 03 02 In The End - Linkin Park 04 09 Foolish - Ashanti 05 06 Girlfriend - *NSYNC feat. Nelly 06 03 How You Remind Me - Nickelback 07 07 Blurry - Puddle Of Mudd 08 12 You Don't Have To Call - Usher 09 04 Always On Time - Ja Rule feat. Ashanti 10 11 Oops (Oh My) - Tweet
24 49 I Need a Girl (Part 1) - P. Diddy feat. Usher & Loon
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Post by Soulsista on Apr 3, 2022 10:55:45 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 Flashback:
April 7, 2007
01 03 Don't Matter - Akon (1st of 2 weeks at #1) 02 01 Glamorous - Fergie feat. Ludacris 03 94 Beautiful Liar - Beyonce & Shakira 04 02 This Is Why I'm Hot - Mims 05 04 Cupid's Chokehold - Gym Class Heroes feat. Patrick Stump 06 05 The Sweet Escape - Gwen Stefani feat. Akon 07 08 Girlfriend - Avril Lavigne 08 06 Throw Some D's - Rich Boy feat. Polow Da Don 09 09 What Goes Around... - Justin Timberlake 10 07 It's Not Over - Daughtry
April 7, 2012
01 01 We Are Young - fun. feat. Janelle Monae (4th of 6 weeks at #1) 02 02 Stronger (What Doesn't Kill You) - Kelly Clarkson 03 03 Glad You Came - The Wanted 04 05 Somebody That I Used To Know - Gotye feat. Kimbra 05 06 Starships - Nicki Minaj 06 04 Set Fire To The Rain - Adele 07 09 Wild Ones - Flo Rida feat. Sia 08 10 Part Of Me - Katy Perry 09 08 Take Care - Drake feat. Rihanna 10 07 Turn Me On - David Guetta feat. Nicki Minaj
19 NE Eyes Open - Taylor Swift
April 8, 2017
01 01 Shape Of You - Ed Sheeran (9th of 12 weeks at #1) 02 02 That's What I Like - Bruno Mars 03 04 I Don't Wanna Live Forever (Fifty Shades Darker) - Zayn & Taylor Swift 04 03 Bad And Boujee - Migos feat. Lil Uzi Vert 05 05 I Feel It Coming - The Weeknd feat. Daft Punk 06 06 Tunnel Vision - Kodak Black 07 08 Something Just Like This - The Chainsmokers & Coldplay 08 NE Passionfruit - Drake 09 NE Portland - Drake feat. Quavo & Travis Scott 10 09 Paris - The Chainsmokers
18 NE Free Smoke - Drake
April 10, 2021
01 NE MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) - Lil Nas X (1st and only week at #1) 02 01 Peaches - Justin Bieber feat. Daniel Caesar & Giveon 03 03 Leave The Door Open - Silk Sonic (Bruno Mars & Anderson .Paak) 04 02 Up - Cardi B 05 04 drivers license - Olivia Rodrigo 06 05 Save Your Tears - The Weeknd 07 07 Levitating - Dua Lipa feat. DaBaby 08 06 Blinding Lights - The Weeknd 09 10 Mood - 24kGoldn feat. Iann Dior 10 09 What You Know Bout Love - Pop Smoke
11 82 Tombstone - Rod Wave 22 NE Richer - Rod Wave feat. Polo G
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Apr 3, 2022 11:02:56 GMT -5
April 6, 200201 01 Ain't It Funny - Jennifer Lopez feat. Ja Rule (5th of 6 weeks at #1)02 05 What's Luv? - Fat Joe feat. Ashanti 03 02 In The End - Linkin Park 04 09 Foolish - Ashanti 05 06 Girlfriend - *NSYNC feat. Nelly 06 03 How You Remind Me - Nickelback 07 07 Blurry - Puddle Of Mudd 08 12 You Don't Have To Call - Usher 09 04 Always On Time - Ja Rule feat. Ashanti 10 11 Oops (Oh My) - Tweet 24 49 I Need a Girl (Part 1) - P. Diddy feat. Usher & Loon This Top 10 is way underrated. The worst song on this list is How You Remind Me, and even though I hated Nickelback, that wasn't too bad of a song. Ashanti did a really good job of sampling DeBarge's Stay With Me, which I heard yesterday on radio.
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Post by kindofbiased on Apr 3, 2022 13:39:57 GMT -5
It's funny, I expected Big Energy to get a big boost into the top 5 at the start of the tracking week because of the album & remix, then I didn't see the remix really make a dent at all on streaming so I thought it was gonna be stuck in the lower half of the top 10, so now I'm surprised about it actually getting as high as I initially expected lmao
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Post by livelightning on Apr 3, 2022 15:04:37 GMT -5
It's funny, I expected Big Energy to get a big boost into the top 5 at the start of the tracking week because of the album & remix, then I didn't see the remix really make a dent at all on streaming so I thought it was gonna be stuck in the lower half of the top 10, so now I'm surprised about it actually getting as high as I initially expected lmao That's how weak the top 10 is lol
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Post by otaviohmg on Apr 3, 2022 15:21:59 GMT -5
Crazy to remember that Big Energy was first performed at the VMAs for almost 50 seconds (because of the advertising time slot) and now could be the first female #1 of the year featuring a legendary singer
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Post by elementd5 on Apr 3, 2022 17:10:22 GMT -5
April 6, 200201 01 Ain't It Funny - Jennifer Lopez feat. Ja Rule (5th of 6 weeks at #1)02 05 What's Luv? - Fat Joe feat. Ashanti 03 02 In The End - Linkin Park 04 09 Foolish - Ashanti 05 06 Girlfriend - *NSYNC feat. Nelly 06 03 How You Remind Me - Nickelback 07 07 Blurry - Puddle Of Mudd 08 12 You Don't Have To Call - Usher 09 04 Always On Time - Ja Rule feat. Ashanti 10 11 Oops (Oh My) - Tweet 24 49 I Need a Girl (Part 1) - P. Diddy feat. Usher & Loon This Top 10 is way underrated. The worst song on this list is How You Remind Me, and even though I hated Nickelback, that wasn't too bad of a song. Ashanti did a really good job of sampling DeBarge's Stay With Me, which I heard yesterday on radio. How You Remind Me’s longevity is crazy here. I always wondered how it was the Year-End #1 but you can see how it’s outlasted going on three months worth of #1s after it fell from #1 and is still Top 10.
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Post by jenglisbe on Apr 3, 2022 17:12:29 GMT -5
What was the "34+35" remix controversy?
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Apr 3, 2022 17:46:31 GMT -5
^Whether the remix featuring Doja Cat and Megan Thee Stallion. It wasn't even aware the remix existed until that was the version that appeared in the 2021 Year-End Hot 100. I still haven't heard it.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Apr 4, 2022 13:03:45 GMT -5
Easy On Me already off the Top 10, with abcdefu and WDTAB soon to follow. Meanwhile, Heat Waves and Stay remain firmly on top, with the latter tying the Circles record of spending the first 38 weeks in the Top 10.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Apr 4, 2022 13:05:53 GMT -5
“Already”
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Post by livelightning on Apr 4, 2022 13:08:00 GMT -5
23 weeks is not that much any more lol
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Apr 4, 2022 13:09:19 GMT -5
23 weeks is not that much any more lol I’d say it still is. It’s just more common than it used to be. Isn’t it Adele’s longest running top ten? And if anyone has monster hits, it’s her.
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Post by otaviohmg on Apr 4, 2022 13:10:23 GMT -5
Hot 100 Breakdown Heat Waves
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New Entries: TBAWeeks in the Top 10/5/338/33/23 Stay 21/13/12 Heat Waves 13/9/3 Super Gremlin 13/11/8 We Don't Talk About Bruno 12/6/2 abcdefu 8/1/0 Ghost 6/0/0 That's What I Want 3/1/0 Enemy 2/0/0 Woman 1/1/1 Big Energy
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