Billboard Hot 100: 04/16/2022

[jenglisbe]

Apr 5, 2022 8:59:28 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Why is Stay still getting adds on radio? This is why it will never fall off the Top 10.

Radio wants it to be #1 on the all-time Hot 100. I wonder if when that happens Billboard will change the formula. Having the top 2 be from within a couple years just shows how it's off.

[Au$tin]

Apr 5, 2022 9:19:24 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Apr 5, 2022 8:59:28 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Why is Stay still getting adds on radio? This is why it will never fall off the Top 10.

Radio wants it to be #1 on the all-time Hot 100. I wonder if when that happens Billboard will change the formula. Having the top 2 be from within a couple years just shows how it's off.

I assure you radio doesn't give a flying f**k about the all time Hot 100 stats. Besides, STAY is not at all a radio driven hit. It's still a monster on streaming too. As is Heat Waves. The Hot 100 isn't "off" these literally are the two biggest songs right now. They are #3 and #7 on streaming.

Apr 5, 2022 8:59:28 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Why is Stay still getting adds on radio?

Because AC radio is notoriously slow, dude. This is not new information.

[jenglisbe]

Apr 5, 2022 9:49:21 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Apr 5, 2022 9:19:24 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Radio wants it to be #1 on the all-time Hot 100. I wonder if when that happens Billboard will change the formula. Having the top 2 be from within a couple years just shows how it's off.

I assure you radio doesn't give a flying f**k about the all time Hot 100 stats. Besides, STAY is not at all a radio driven hit. It's still a monster on streaming too. As is Heat Waves. The Hot 100 isn't "off" these literally are the two biggest songs right now. They are strong in all metrics.

Oh lord, it was a 'joke' considering the "Blinding Lights" stan I was responding to.

[Au$tin]

Apr 5, 2022 9:51:30 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Apr 5, 2022 9:49:21 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

I assure you radio doesn't give a flying f**k about the all time Hot 100 stats. Besides, STAY is not at all a radio driven hit. It's still a monster on streaming too. As is Heat Waves. The Hot 100 isn't "off" these literally are the two biggest songs right now. They are strong in all metrics.

Oh lord, it was a 'joke' considering the "Blinding Lights" stan I was responding to.

Judging from your history on this site, how was I supposed to know? This wouldn't be an abnormal stance for you to have. 🙍

[jenglisbe]

Apr 5, 2022 9:54:56 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Apr 5, 2022 9:51:30 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Oh lord, it was a 'joke' considering the "Blinding Lights" stan I was responding to.

Judging from your history on this site, how was I supposed to know? This wouldn't be an abnormal stance for you to have. 🙍

When have I said radio cares about the Hot 100? Lol! You should move on from me not letting you get this dick.

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Apr 5, 2022 9:49:21 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Apr 5, 2022 9:19:24 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Radio wants it to be #1 on the all-time Hot 100. I wonder if when that happens Billboard will change the formula. Having the top 2 be from within a couple years just shows how it's off.

I assure you radio doesn't give a flying f**k about the all time Hot 100 stats. Besides, STAY is not at all a radio driven hit. It's still a monster on streaming too. As is Heat Waves. The Hot 100 isn't "off" these literally are the two biggest songs right now. They are #3 and #7 on streaming.

Stay's streaming is great for a 9-month song, but let's not call a song with 10-11M streams a streaming monster. Also, yeah, Stay is #7 on streaming, but it's not even in the top 50 on sales, so I'm not even sure if it'd be in the top 10 of most consumed songs of the week (SPS). Probably in the lower half.
Nothing against the song and its success, but it's time for radio to let it go, today is exactly 7 months since it entered the top 3 on radio.

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

US Spotify

#3 good 4 u
#25 traitor
#29 drivers license
#32 deja vu
#68 favorite crime
#116 jealousy, jealousy
#130 happier
#145 brutal

AOTY!

[phieaglesfan712]

I get that AC is notoriously slow, but using adds for Stay at this point takes it to a whole new level. Those adds could be used for songs like Enemy, Woman, Big Energy, and That’s What I Want.

[jenglisbe]

Apr 5, 2022 10:28:18 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

I get that AC is notoriously slow, but using adds for Stay at this point takes it to a whole new level. Those adds could be used for songs like Enemy, Woman, Big Energy, and That’s What I Want.

Don't worry, they will get adds in 2023.

[livelightning]

Apr 5, 2022 10:12:50 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Apr 5, 2022 9:49:21 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

I assure you radio doesn't give a flying f**k about the all time Hot 100 stats. Besides, STAY is not at all a radio driven hit. It's still a monster on streaming too. As is Heat Waves. The Hot 100 isn't "off" these literally are the two biggest songs right now. They are #3 and #7 on streaming.

Stay's streaming is great for a 9-month song, but let's not call a song with 10-11M streams a streaming monster. Also, yeah, Stay is #7 on streaming, but it's not even in the top 50 on sales, so I'm not even sure if it'd be in the top 10 of most consumed songs of the week (SPS). Probably in the lower half.
Nothing against the song and its success, but it's time for radio to let it go, today is exactly 7 months since it entered the top 3 on radio.

No one really cares about sales tho. Sales are pretty dead. And 10-11M streams is pretty huge, especially now. The radio is playing the song because people wanna hear it. 

[KeepDeanWeird]

An AC station add translates to about 6 or 7 spins a WEEK.

I think BH continual resurgence at Hot AC is fascinating. Is it primarily due to stations playing the remix?

I don't think anyone thought Elle King would be on the verge of reaching the Top 40 again - much less with a 13-month old single.

[pancakes]

Jon Batiste not a single song in Spotify top 200?

[Au$tin]

Apr 5, 2022 10:12:50 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Apr 5, 2022 9:49:21 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

I assure you radio doesn't give a flying f**k about the all time Hot 100 stats. Besides, STAY is not at all a radio driven hit. It's still a monster on streaming too. As is Heat Waves. The Hot 100 isn't "off" these literally are the two biggest songs right now. They are #3 and #7 on streaming.

Stay's streaming is great for a 9-month song, but let's not call a song with 10-11M streams a streaming monster. Also, yeah, Stay is #7 on streaming, but it's not even in the top 50 on sales, so I'm not even sure if it'd be in the top 10 of most consumed songs of the week (SPS). Probably in the lower half.
Nothing against the song and its success, but it's time for radio to let it go, today is exactly 7 months since it entered the top 3 on radio.

Aww man, STAY isn't selling 4k copies a week? Bummer. What a complete flop that no one is consuming.

Anyway, streaming is also way down, so technically nothing is monstrous, but in the context of right now, a song going on a year old still being #7 on streaming seems like a monster to me. 🙍

My entire point was that radio isn't solely to blame here. STAY is still raking in the numbers elsewhere too and the Hot 100 formula does not need changes just because the current top 2 are old as f**k. People are just into those old songs right now. Case in point: Harry Styles is the first person to release a song in 2022 that actually might stick. And it's April.

Basically I'm just tired of everyone blaming radio for every little thing they don't like as if sales aren't completely dead and streaming isn't a walking cemetery of ancient songs.

[livelightning]

Not to mention, Stay has been falling hard on radio this week. Also, as a chart watcher, I don't understand why people wouldn't love record-breaking songs. You'll never see something like Heat waves and Stay again for quite a while.

[phieaglesfan712]

Apr 5, 2022 10:42:21 GMT -5 KeepDeanWeird said:

I don't think anyone thought Elle King would be on the verge of reaching the Top 40 again - much less with a 13-month old single.

Oddly enough, her other hit, Ex’s and Oh’s, got a similar resurgence in late 2015, and actually made both the 2015 and 2016 Year End charts.

[lazer]

It’s pretty nice to see AIW holding up. It may be a bit short but it’s a cool spring tune. Hopefully, we’ll see more new songs having some stability.

[phieaglesfan712]

Apr 5, 2022 11:14:24 GMT -5 livelightning said:

Not to mention, Stay has been falling hard on radio this week. Also, as a chart watcher, I don't understand why people wouldn't love record-breaking songs. You'll never see something like Heat waves and Stay again for quite a while.

I liked Stay when it first came out, but it’s hard to like it when you hear it played every other song 9 months straight. It does get tiring after a while. To be perfectly honest, the song burned out on me like 6 months ago.

[nathanalbright]

Apr 5, 2022 10:39:29 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Apr 5, 2022 10:28:18 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

I get that AC is notoriously slow, but using adds for Stay at this point takes it to a whole new level. Those adds could be used for songs like Enemy, Woman, Big Energy, and That’s What I Want.

Don't worry, they will get adds in 2023.

The AC remix for Big Energy is gonna be lit.

[atg]

Apr 5, 2022 9:08:53 GMT -5 After Minutes said:

The Out Of Time MV is so cute! Well, mostly. It also fits the song perfectly imo and sets us up for another great video

I hope it can grow on radio as i don’t see it anywhere yet despite it being on there for about a day. I can see this being one of the biggest hits of the year and the easiest contender for my best list (besides As It Was of course).

[Gary]

Apr 5, 2022 11:27:05 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Apr 5, 2022 11:14:24 GMT -5 livelightning said:

Not to mention, Stay has been falling hard on radio this week. Also, as a chart watcher, I don't understand why people wouldn't love record-breaking songs. You'll never see something like Heat waves and Stay again for quite a while.

I liked Stay when it first came out, but it’s hard to like it when you hear it played every other song 9 months straight. It does get tiring after a while. To be perfectly honest, the song burned out on me like 6 months ago.

I would have guessed that 'Stay' is your favorite song.


Just curious though - if not 'Stay' what is your favorite song?

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2022 » / « 04 » / « 05 »

1(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 87.89(-0.31)
2(=) Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT 80.01(-0.32)
3(=) The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber - STAY 79.23(-0.60)
4(=) Doja Cat - Woman 78.58(+0.14)
5(=) Latto & Mariah Carey - Big Energy (Remix) [feat. DJ Khaled] 76.52(+0.89)
6(=) Justin Bieber - Ghost 73.96(-0.32)
7(=) Imagine Dragons - Enemy From League Of Legends 71.75(+0.66)
8(=) GAYLE - abcdefu 61.22(-1.02)
9(=) Post Malone & The Weeknd - One Right Now 57.51(+0.38)
10(=) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 57.07(-0.03)

50(+1) Jnr Choi - To The Moon 23.96(+0.64)

56(+13) Harry Styles - As It Was 21.61(+3.60)

-(-) Shawn Mendes - When You're Gone 8.10(+1.33)

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Apr 5, 2022 11:01:15 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Apr 5, 2022 10:12:50 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Aww man, STAY isn't selling 4k copies a week? Bummer. What a complete flop that no one is consuming.

Anyway, streaming is also way down, so technically nothing is monstrous, but in the context of right now, a song going on a year old still being #7 on streaming seems like a monster to me. 🙍

My entire point was that radio isn't solely to blame here. STAY is still raking in the numbers elsewhere too and the Hot 100 formula does not need changes just because the current top 2 are old as f**k. People are just into those old songs right now. Case in point: Harry Styles is the first person to release a song in 2022 that actually might stick. And it's April.

Basically I'm just tired of everyone blaming radio for every little thing they don't like as if sales aren't completely dead and streaming isn't a walking cemetery of ancient songs.

I mostly agree with you, and while I don't blame radio for every little thing, I definitely think they're out of touch and have too much power. I mean, the entire top 8 on radio is currently in the top 10 vs 4/8 on streaming. Gremlin and Bruno are the only songs in the top 10 that don't get too much love from them  - but we all know how much radio likes rap songs and Disney.

Also, you can't find One Right Now on sales and streaming chart, but you can find it in the top 20 on the Hot 100, thanks to radio ofc. Basically, #10 on radio alone (One Right Now #19) is bigger than #4 on streaming and #14 on sales (Soy El Unico #20).

I'm all for radio in the formula, but just with less influence.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 04/04/22

1(=) Harry Styles - As It Was 3,334,761 (+360,263)
2(=) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 866,748 (+31,680)
3(+5) Olivia Rodrigo - good 4 u 655,295 (+114,030)
4(+1) Lil Nas X - INDUSTRY BABY 626,493 (+62,936)
5(-1) The Kid LAROI - STAY 611,475 (+10,134)
6(+1) Lil Tjay - In My Head 596,394 (+46,139)
7(-4) Carolina Gaitán - La Gaita, Mauro Castillo, Adassa, Rhenzy Feliz, Diane Guerrero, Stephanie Beatriz, Encanto Cast - We Don't Talk About Bruno 572,075 (-34,498)
8(-2) Imagine Dragons - Enemy 571,977 (+12,647)
9(+2) Justin Bieber - Ghost 558,167 (+64,807)
10(-1) Kodak Black - Super Gremlin 553,408 (+16,377)

Others:
11(-1) Doja Cat - Woman 540,495 (+38,281)
12(=) The Walters - I Love You So 524,179 (+46,490)
13(+2) Doja Cat - Need to Know 514,459 (+51,636)
16(-2) Lil Nas X - THATS WHAT I WANT 495,167 (+28,403)
17(-4) Shawn Mendes - When You're Gone 494,439 (+23,414)
18(+20) Baby Keem - family ties 484,642 (+136,182)
19(+6) Doja Cat - Kiss Me More 484,350 (+92,492)
20(+1) Arctic Monkeys - 505 483,536 (+64,596)
21(-3) Dove Cameron - Boyfriend 477,927 (+36,347)
22(+23) Billie Eilish - Happier Than Ever 473,710 (+138,933)
23(-1) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 467,460 (+56,461)
25(+9) Olivia Rodrigo - traitor 461,222 (+102,159)
26(+2) Tyler the Creator - See You Again 444,462 (+70,621)
27(-8) Elton John, Dua Lipa - Cold Heart (PNAU Remix) 440,014 (+9,360)
28(+4) Jack Harlow - Nail Tech 434,577 (+71,951)
29(+31) Olivia Rodrigo - drivers license 434,548 (+137,401)
30(re-entry) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Leave the Door Open 431,828
31(-8) Gunna, Future - pushin P 431,392 (+21,819)
32(+18) Olivia Rodrigo - deja vu 415,986 (+95,373)
33(-7) Yeat - Monëy so big 414,930 (+31,880)
34(-10) GAYLE - abcdefu 404,953 (+12,057)
35(-4) Nirvana - Something In The Way 402,676 (+33,690)
36(-1) Frank Ocean - Lost 397,303 (+38,507)
37(-7) Ed Sheeran - Shivers 395,399 (+25,938)
38(-11) Dreamville - Stick 391,838 (+17,051)
39(+1) Adele - Easy On Me 385,477 (+38,865)
40(-4) Elley Duhé - MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT 385,128 (+31,428)
41(+8) Tyler the Creator - NEW MAGIC WAND 382,508 (+60,758)
42(-5) Camila Cabello - Bam Bam 381,810 (+31,837)
43(-10) Becky G, KAROL G - MAMIII 379,682 (+19,273)
44(-3) Em Beihold - Numb Little Bug 379,120 (+34,400)
45(-3) WILLOW - Wait a Minute! 378,209 (+33,621)
46(-3) Yahritza Y Su Esencia - Soy El Unico 372,970 (+30,005)
47(=) AnnenMayKantereit, Giant Rooks - Tom's Diner 364,944 (+40,461)
48(-19) Jessica Darrow - Surface Pressure 364,427 (-7,249)
49(-5) Morgan Wallen - Wasted On You 357,497 (+20,311)
51(-3) Post Malone - One Right Now 349,798 (+26,017)
52(-13) Lil Durk - Broadway Girls 345,957 (-2,313)
54(+2) Tate McRae - she's all i wanna be 338,107 (+37,584)
55(-4) The Rare Occasions - Notion 337,954 (+19,750)
56(+2) Charlie Puth - Light Switch 325,477 (+26,581)
58(+23) Harry Styles - Watermelon Sugar 322,192 (+48,401)
60(-7) Dua Lipa - Levitating 320,427 (+9,945)
62(+3) Ed Sheeran - Bad Habits 318,891 (+30,199)
63(-11) Kevin Gates - Thinking with My Dick 318,671 (+4,154)
64(+21) Lauren Spencer-Smith - Fingers Crossed 318,427 (+46,451)
65(+6) Doja Cat, The Weeknd - You Right 317,184 (+36,989)
67(+5) Beach House - Space Song 312,539 (+33,020)
68(+57) Olivia Rodrigo - favorite crime 312,486 (+76,479)
73(+11) Doja Cat - Ain't Shit 307,710 (+35,101)
74(-4) Pharrell Williams - Just a Cloud Away 306,129 (+24,169)
75(+11) Ruth B. - Dandelions 305,746 (+34,031)
76(+24) The Neighbourhood - Softcore 305,020 (+46,954)
77(+17) Gunna - P power 304,863 (+39,855)
79(-13) Latto - Big Energy 303,046 (+17,298)
80(+9) SZA - I Hate U 301,012 (+32,912)
81(+11) Gunna - Banking On Me 300,118 (+33,859)
83(-7) Megan Thee Stallion, Dua Lipa - Sweetest Pie 298,699 (+22,259)
86(+82) Bruno Mars, Anderson .Paak, Silk Sonic - Smokin Out The Window 293,136 (+82,159)
88(+28) Foo Fighters - Everlong 292,175 (+52,446)
91(-1) BoyWithUke - IDGAF 289,196 (+21,096)
97(-34) lil Shordie Scott - Rocking A Cardigan in Atlanta 284,987 (-5,646)
100(+5) Yeat - Poppin 283,406 (+34,265)

101(=) Playboi Carti - Sky 282,994 (+28,570)
102(-5) Tiësto, Ava Max - The Motto 282,504 (+19,110)
105(+6) Machine Gun Kelly - make up sex 281,108 (+37,890)
106(+41) Kehlani - up at night 280,729 (+57,356)
107(-4) The Weeknd - Save Your Tears 279,712 (+26,725)
108(+19) Tyler the Creator - EARFQUAKE 279,676 (+43,718)
110(-51) 4*TOWN (From Disney and Pixar’s Turning Red), Jordan Fisher, Finneas O'Connell, Josh Levi, Topher Ngo, Grayson Villanueva - Nobody Like U 279,229 (-18,681)
113(-15) Anitta - Envolver 273,254 (+13,042)
116(+53) Olivia Rodrigo - jealousy, jealousy 272,842 (+62,666)
120(-1) Vundabar - Alien Blues 267,247 (+29,304)
124(-17) Labrinth - Mount Everest 263,952 (+15,815)
125(+18) Machine Gun Kelly - maybe 263,295 (+38,134)
129(re-entry) Tyler the Creator - WUSYANAME 262,237
130(re-entry) Olivia Rodrigo - happier 262,036
133(-4) Nardo Wick - Me or Sum 258,917 (+25,158)
139(+54) Justin Bieber - Peaches 254,660 (+51,400)
140(+8) Lil Durk - What Happened To Virgil 254,478 (+31,446)
141(-28) Cody Johnson - 'Til You Can't 253,986 (+11,853)
144(-35) Morgan Wallen - Sand in My Boots 252,429 (+5,753)
145(re-entry) Olivia Rodrigo - brutal 251,684
150(-10) Lil Durk - AHHH HA 247,298 (+19,643)
153(+25) Tyler the Creator - Come On, Let's Go 244,565 (+37,317)
154(-19) ERNEST - Flower Shops 244,348 (+14,246)
176(re-entry) Lucky Daye - Over 232,485
177(-11) Russ - HANDSOMER Remix 232,460 (+19,990)
179(re-entry) Tate McRae - chaotic 231,602
184(+15) King Von, 21 Savage - Don't Play That 227,818 (+25,946)
187(-3) Vacations - Young 226,982 (+21,579)
190(-24) Rauw Alejandro, Chencho Corleone - Desesperados 226,103 (+14,187)
192(-4) Joy Again - Looking Out for You 225,316 (+21,054)
198(re-entry) Labrinth, Zendaya - I'm Tired 223,878
199(-5) Imagine Dragons - Bones 223,013 (+19,961)

It's been awhile since I did this but

Total Streams for SOUR: 3,066,099
Total Streams for Planet Her: 2,446,664

Biggest Gains (50K+): Peaches, jealousy jealousy, up at night, Everlong, Smokin Out The Window, favorite crime, NEW MAGIC WAND, deja vu, drivers license, Nail Tech, See You Again, traitor, Dark Red, Happier Than Ever, 505, Kiss Me More, family ties, No Role Modelz, Need to Know, Ghost, INDUSTRY BABY, good 4 u, As It Was

[fridayteenage]

still only 2 songs at 700k+ even with grammys. oy.

[nathanalbright]

You can give people songs to listen to and remind them of their existence but you cannot make them stream it.

[jenglisbe]

Well damn. (Isn't Harry a credit writer on the song? Lol)

[mms82]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SqOCp8D0_rc

great take on the lovable sober gay-icon corny dad song maker before AA becomes a top 10 hit all summer

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Unless you work somewhere where the radio is out of your control, there are buttons to change the channel or turn it off.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Apr 5, 2022 11:39:26 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Apr 5, 2022 11:01:15 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

Aww man, STAY isn't selling 4k copies a week? Bummer. What a complete flop that no one is consuming.

Anyway, streaming is also way down, so technically nothing is monstrous, but in the context of right now, a song going on a year old still being #7 on streaming seems like a monster to me. 🙍

My entire point was that radio isn't solely to blame here. STAY is still raking in the numbers elsewhere too and the Hot 100 formula does not need changes just because the current top 2 are old as f**k. People are just into those old songs right now. Case in point: Harry Styles is the first person to release a song in 2022 that actually might stick. And it's April.

Basically I'm just tired of everyone blaming radio for every little thing they don't like as if sales aren't completely dead and streaming isn't a walking cemetery of ancient songs.

I mostly agree with you, and while I don't blame radio for every little thing, I definitely think they're out of touch and have too much power. I mean, the entire top 8 on radio is currently in the top 10 vs 4/8 on streaming. Gremlin and Bruno are the only songs in the top 10 that don't get too much love from them  - but we all know how much radio likes rap songs and Disney.

What does it mean to be out of touch if a large number of people still get their music from the radio? If the chart is meant to measure what people consume, and what people consume is what’s on the radio, it makes sense that the chart reflect this.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Apr 5, 2022 13:15:44 GMT -5 jenglisbe said:

Well damn. (Isn't Harry a credit writer on the song? Lol)

Breaking: Old grumpy ass crankpot who complains about everything heard complaining about something.