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Post by Enigma. on Jul 13, 2024 11:56:09 GMT -5
Touring is very different to current era, like JT has demonstrated. His arena tour has sold well even though the associated album was a gigantic flop (for him).
But Katy needs to announce the tour quickly. If this era doesn't recover from the first single, the demand won't be there in October.
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Post by The Black Bird on Jul 13, 2024 11:58:31 GMT -5
Tbh, she should’ve announced the tour as soon as the album released date was made public.
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 13, 2024 12:00:52 GMT -5
"What Makes A Woman" is a solid/fine album cut, but never would've made a good single. lol Btw I don’t think it will either, I just think if she wanted female empowerment, it’s better than Woman’s World
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Post by james518 on Jul 13, 2024 12:11:14 GMT -5
I’m almost getting uncomfortable reading reviews at this point because they seem to be going beyond the warranted criticism.
Anyways.. I’ll stream this occasionally and wait for the album, but until then, I’ll go back to listening to her older singles and remembering how she campaigned for Hilary Clinton.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jul 13, 2024 12:38:59 GMT -5
Can she just ignore this like Ariana did with Focus, and release a proper lead single?
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Post by spiritboy on Jul 13, 2024 13:03:26 GMT -5
Ariana wasn't hated at that point in her career. Katy is receiving so much hate from so many fanbases that whatever she'll release will flop (even if it's the best song of her career)
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jul 13, 2024 13:12:39 GMT -5
Ariana wasn't hated at that point in her career. Katy is receiving so much hate from so many fanbases that whatever she'll release will flop (even if it's the best song of her career) wasn't that donut and "I hate America" incident a few months before Focus? My point wasn't in Ariana's hate or the potential success of the next song, It'd be really great for her to move on from this asap.
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Post by Choco on Jul 13, 2024 15:14:36 GMT -5
II doubt she can sell out a world tour at this point. I dunno about this. Her Witness tour was VERY successful and it was on the back of the lowest point of her career. Usually I'd agree. I think Katy can easily sell a tour specially worldwide. But just this year previous tour darling JLO apparently struggled. We'll see. Katy's catalogue is stronger than JLO's.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jul 13, 2024 15:57:23 GMT -5
I dunno about this. Her Witness tour was VERY successful and it was on the back of the lowest point of her career. Usually I'd agree. I think Katy can easily sell a tour specially worldwide. But just this year previous tour darling JLO apparently struggled. We'll see. Katy's catalogue is stronger than JLO's. Yeah, plus Jennifer was being decimated across social media for months prior to her tour. Katy may be receiving some backlash currently, but it hasn't reached those levels yet (thankfully).
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Post by bat1990 on Jul 13, 2024 16:46:29 GMT -5
It hasn’t even been 24 hours yet and people are foaming at the mouth at cancelling her for eternity. Called that shit a few pages ago before the song dropped. It is what it is. 🤷🏾 She was definitely hinting at a tour. I enjoyed the Witness tour stop wjr15 Was that the one where we took a group pic before the show?
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Post by wavey. on Jul 13, 2024 16:49:23 GMT -5
Called that shit a few pages ago before the song dropped. It is what it is. 🤷🏾 She was definitely hinting at a tour. I enjoyed the Witness tour stop wjr15 Was that the one where we took a group pic before the show? Yes❤️
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Post by wavey. on Jul 13, 2024 21:57:25 GMT -5
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jul 14, 2024 9:47:08 GMT -5
This makes me even more excited to hear it in full, cause if there's one thing Ester knows how to do, it's craft a bop!
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Post by wavey. on Jul 14, 2024 10:37:36 GMT -5
This makes me even more excited to hear it in full, cause if there's one thing Ester knows how to do, it's craft a bop! Truth. "Firework" remains Supreme.
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Post by Choco on Jul 14, 2024 11:15:59 GMT -5
Usually I'd agree. I think Katy can easily sell a tour specially worldwide. But just this year previous tour darling JLO apparently struggled. We'll see. Katy's catalogue is stronger than JLO's. Yeah, plus Jennifer was being decimated across social media for months prior to her tour. Katy may be receiving some backlash currently, but it hasn't reached those levels yet (thankfully). 24h later and the vitriol has started pouring in a similar way. To be completely fair she could have avoided this by not working with Luke.
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Post by wwr on Jul 14, 2024 12:34:49 GMT -5
Usually I'd agree. I think Katy can easily sell a tour specially worldwide. But just this year previous tour darling JLO apparently struggled. We'll see. Katy's catalogue is stronger than JLO's. Yeah, plus Jennifer was being decimated across social media for months prior to her tour. Katy may be receiving some backlash currently, but it hasn't reached those levels yet (thankfully). Oh but it will Once the critics find out 90% of the album was produced by Luke lmao Im sooooo here for Katy’s downfall
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jul 14, 2024 12:45:55 GMT -5
Yeah, plus Jennifer was being decimated across social media for months prior to her tour. Katy may be receiving some backlash currently, but it hasn't reached those levels yet (thankfully). Oh but it will Once the critics find out 90% of the album was produced by Luke lmao Im sooooo here for Katy’s downfall While I can understand not liking material, maybe not liking an artist, I can't understand rooting for someone's "downfall". It's not as if she killed someone. :/
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Post by Ty on Jul 14, 2024 12:54:55 GMT -5
Oh but it will Once the critics find out 90% of the album was produced by Luke lmao Im sooooo here for Katy’s downfall While I can understand not liking material, maybe not liking an artist, I can't understand rooting for someone's "downfall". It's not as if she killed someone. :/ Gay men's diva complex is a real thing. It can get expressed as misogyny and hatred against female celebrities.
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Post by wwr on Jul 14, 2024 12:56:25 GMT -5
Oh but it will Once the critics find out 90% of the album was produced by Luke lmao Im sooooo here for Katy’s downfall While I can understand not liking material, maybe not liking an artist, I can't understand rooting for someone's "downfall". It's not as if she killed someone. :/ I root for Katy’s downfall for willingly working with a known woman abuser (and I’m not talking about sexually) Several artists spoke about how he mistreated them And to even have THE NERVE to make a woman empowering anthem with a woman abuser lmao So yeah, she deserves all the backlash and some more
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Post by kamala 2024 truther on Jul 14, 2024 13:49:13 GMT -5
I’m so tired of hearing people (in the “Woman’s World” thread and now the artist thread) actively wish for a human being’s mental health to decline. Katy was undeniably dense for releasing this type of song in 2024, but like someone said above, it’s not as if she killed someone. She’s responsible for voluntarily going back to Luke for this album, but 1) she is NOT responsible for the things that he did, and I think we all need to remember that, and 2) by having the goodwill she’d built back and seeing him have multiple hits in recent years even in the midst of/after the court case with Kesha, Katy likely had blinders on. She had a false sense of confidence that she would be able to achieve her huge comeback and revive her career, and that her return would be met with open arms. Does that excuse her choice to work with him? By no means. Was the choice to return and step into the cultural landscape of 2024 with a female empowerment anthem written by 4 men—Luke being one of them—a wise choice? Not in any world. None of that will ever justify anybody saying they hope she has a mental breakdown. I’ve seen a lot in my 5 years on Pulse, but I’ve not ever seen that type of depravity. It’s shameful and appalling. Do better.
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 14, 2024 14:34:02 GMT -5
It's a subjectively bad song with poor lyrics and a questionable choice of producer. You guys are all right, anyone acting like Katy is the devil need to seriously re-evaluate themselves
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Post by wwr on Jul 14, 2024 14:49:50 GMT -5
I’m so tired of hearing people (in the “Woman’s World” thread and now the artist thread) actively wish for a human being’s mental health to decline. Katy was undeniably dense for releasing this type of song in 2024, but like someone said above, it’s not as if she killed someone. She’s responsible for voluntarily going back to Luke for this album, but 1) she is NOT responsible for the things that he did, and I think we all need to remember that, and 2) by having the goodwill she’d built back and seeing him have multiple hits in recent years even in the midst of/after the court case with Kesha, Katy likely had blinders on. She had a false sense of confidence that she would be able to achieve her huge comeback and revive her career, and that her return would be met with open arms. Does that excuse her choice to work with him? By no means. Was the choice to return and step into the cultural landscape of 2024 with a female empowerment anthem written by 4 men—Luke being one of them—a wise choice? Not in any world. None of that will ever justify anybody saying they hope she has a mental breakdown. I’ve seen a lot in my 5 years on Pulse, but I’ve not ever seen that type of depravity. It’s shameful and appalling. Do better. No one’s talking about a mental breakdown though Im specifically talking downfall regarding her music She should come back when she has the guts the experiment and expand her music landscape beyond the person that gave her most of her hits I’ll be there when she delivers something heartfelt and original, I know she has it in her But for the choices she made for THIS album, yes… rooting for it to flop Enough of letting these men get away with it by still working with them willingly
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Post by bat1990 on Jul 14, 2024 15:48:53 GMT -5
I’m so tired of hearing people (in the “Woman’s World” thread and now the artist thread) actively wish for a human being’s mental health to decline. Katy was undeniably dense for releasing this type of song in 2024, but like someone said above, it’s not as if she killed someone. She’s responsible for voluntarily going back to Luke for this album, but 1) she is NOT responsible for the things that he did, and I think we all need to remember that, and 2) by having the goodwill she’d built back and seeing him have multiple hits in recent years even in the midst of/after the court case with Kesha, Katy likely had blinders on. She had a false sense of confidence that she would be able to achieve her huge comeback and revive her career, and that her return would be met with open arms. Does that excuse her choice to work with him? By no means. Was the choice to return and step into the cultural landscape of 2024 with a female empowerment anthem written by 4 men—Luke being one of them—a wise choice? Not in any world. None of that will ever justify anybody saying they hope she has a mental breakdown. I’ve seen a lot in my 5 years on Pulse, but I’ve not ever seen that type of depravity. It’s shameful and appalling. Do better. No one’s talking about a mental breakdown though Im specifically talking downfall regarding her music She should come back when she has the guts the experiment and expand her music landscape beyond the person that gave her most of her hits I’ll be there when she delivers something heartfelt and original, I know she has it in her But for the choices she made for THIS album, yes… rooting for it to flop Enough of letting these men get away with it by still working with them willingly First off, another poster WAS talking about her having a mental breakdown as karma for this release in the single's thread. Second, your choice of words was still a shitty way to phrase wishing she would comeback hard with higher quality creative output and better people as collaborators. The word choice could easily be misconstrued as wishing a mental health crisis on Katy Perry. If the post you just wrote had been your original post, it would have been clear what you meant without being mean and sounding like a cheerleader for Katy Perry's personal downfall.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jul 14, 2024 16:32:58 GMT -5
she just can't win these days...
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Post by Az Paynter on Jul 14, 2024 16:55:01 GMT -5
Oh dear; she's supposed to be headlining the entertainment for the AFL (Australian Football League) Grand Final. If that tweet is anything to do with that, then she's not beating accusations of being clueless and out of touch.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jul 14, 2024 17:29:41 GMT -5
I lol'd. Boy that astrological chart video I watched of Katy that said the public would be critically eyeing everything she does and says during this time was spot on. She really needs to be hyper-critical of her movements on social media before doing any further damage to her image.
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Post by neogale on Jul 14, 2024 17:54:10 GMT -5
It's pretty sad to see that out of all the major popstars from the late 2000s - early 2010s, Katy's the only one flopping.
Like, this song totally deserves it for being a pretty bad song (xd), but still...every article and comment against her as an artist feels very performative and dishonest.
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Post by wavey. on Jul 14, 2024 19:33:05 GMT -5
Chile, she's not worried bout nothing, she's on vacation iktr. http://instagram.com/p/C9Z7XWIq4wr Imo, I don't think she's (fully) focused on the commercial aspect after the "Smile" performance was barely half of "Witness". She just wants to release music as she mentioned in recent interviews before the single dropped. I mean, after WW, if she catches one, then she will. I really want an album + tour. She's done well at the residency, time for another tour!!
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Jul 14, 2024 19:36:10 GMT -5
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jul 14, 2024 19:51:01 GMT -5
^ Good news!
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