PerPlexied
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Post by PerPlexied on Sept 5, 2024 8:38:05 GMT -5
I don’t know if you guys are also observing this but there is a palpable shift in her personality for me this era. Its as if she has put on this facade of trying to be “in” with the cool kids. I am in no way dictating what or how someone should be behaving, but Katy, who I loved for years since her TD days, seems totally vapid, clueless and actually quite irritating nowadays. Maybe its because I was enjoying her during Smile era and hated her Idol shenanigans, but this is still continuing in the current era. Dare I say mid-life crisis? Again, please understand I am not being hateful, I was just thinking these points. Maybe all these contributes to everyone also losing their love for Katy Perry the person, there by losing respect for Katy Perry the artist too. No, I completely agree. I saw the snippet from the Call Her Daddy interview where Katy talks about giving blowjobs because the man cleans and I was cringing so hard. I was seeing a bunch of tweets like, "I love her personality!" and thought I was going insane. It's giving try hard edge lord who desperately wants to hold onto her youth. It's giving Madonna. If Katy Perry kisses Sabrina and Chappel at the VMAs it's definitely over.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 5, 2024 9:04:52 GMT -5
Katy isn't exactly known for being bright and articulate lol I don't get the outrage
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Sept 5, 2024 10:43:27 GMT -5
FWIW I’m not sure the songs would be doing that much better even without the Dr Luke stuff, that’s not the only factor against her. WW just isn’t that good.
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Post by ObhiDonna on Sept 5, 2024 11:51:59 GMT -5
1. "Woman's World" Katy Perry, Aaron Joseph, Chloe Angelides, Dr. Luke, Rocco Valdes & Vaughn Oliver
2. "Gimme Gimme" ft 21 Savage Katy Perry, Shéyaa Bin Abraham-Joseph, Dr. Luke, Rocco Valdes, Ryan Ogren, Theron Thomas, LunchMoney Lewis & Ferras Alqaisi
3. "Gorgeous" ft Kim Petras Katy Perry, Kim Petras, Dr. Luke, Max Martin, Vaughn Oliver, Aaron Joseph, Rocco Valdes, Chloe Angelides, Malibu Babie & Devin Wilkes
4. "I'm His, He's Mine" ft Doechii Katy Perry, Jaylah Hickmon, Dr. Luke, Rocco Valdes, Ryan Ogren, Theron Thomas, LunchMoney Lewis, Ferras Alqaisi, Crystal Waters & Neal Conway
5. "Crush" Katy Perry, Dr. Luke, Rocco Valdes, Ryan Ogren, Theron Thomas, Keegan Bach, Emily Warren, Scott Harris, Sarah Hudson & Dallas Koehlke
6. "Lifetimes" Katy Perry, Dr. Luke, Vaughn Oliver, Rocco Valdes, Ryan Ogren, Theron Thomas, LunchMoney Lewis & Sarah Hudson
7. "All the Love" Katy Perry, Dr. Luke, Vaughn Oliver, Aaron Joseph, Ryan Ogren, Keegan Bach & Ferras Alqaisi
8. "Nirvana" Katy Perry, Dr. Luke, Vaughn Oliver, Aaron Joseph, Rocco Valdes, Ryan Ogren, Keegan Bach, Sarah Hudson, Dallas Koehlke, Theron Thomas, Emily Warren & Scott Harris
9. "Artificial" ft JID Katy Perry, Destin Route, Dr. Luke, Aaron Joseph, Keegan Bach, Chloe Angelides, Sarah Hudson & Samuel Catalano
10. "Truth" Katy Perry, Dr. Luke, Vaughn Oliver, Ryan Ogren, LunchMoney Lewis & Sarah Hudson
11. "Wonder" Katy Perry, Ferras Alqaisi, Tor Erik Hermansen, Mikkel S. Eriksen, Henry Walter, Kent Sundberg & Cato Sundberg
Bonus tracks: • "No Tears For New Years" Theron Thomas,, Dr. Luke, Rocco Valdes, Katy Perry, Ferras Mahmoud Alqaisi, Ryan Ogren • "I Woke Up" Theron Thomas, Dr. Luke, Sarah Theresa Hudson, Rocco Valdes, Katy Perry, Vaughn Oliver, Gamal Kosh Lewis, Ryan Ogren
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Post by kmbgs on Sept 5, 2024 13:04:48 GMT -5
Dr. Luke on 10/11 standard edition tracks...KP said IDGAF
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Post by Carlitoz on Sept 5, 2024 13:07:24 GMT -5
Crazy that the album is coming out in two weeks. Music wise there is NOTHING going on! The "buzz" is 100% for all the wrong reasons. So tomorrow the new song comes out, right? Let's see if it's going to be SO good that it will save the project. It would have to be out-of-this-world good. We'll know in less than 24 hours I guess.
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Post by wjr15 on Sept 5, 2024 13:37:02 GMT -5
What new song is coming out tomorrow? I haven’t seen anything about that.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Sept 5, 2024 13:38:31 GMT -5
Kitty kitty gimme gimme something I like! There is still a smidgen of hope for this project, but definitely not off to a good start with her horrible lead single and then the bland house demo she dropped after. I'm hoping I build up enough Amazon points to get this for free or at least heavily discounted. That way, it's a one and done purchase and Puke doesn't get any of my coins through repeated streams.
On a side note: do any of y'all know that the reason his name is "Doctor" Luke is because he was the resident dealer when he was an SNL band member? Classy!
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Sept 5, 2024 13:41:36 GMT -5
I am hoping she has a truly amazing VMA performance. Like, she is def capable of it.
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Sept 5, 2024 13:47:05 GMT -5
Well, if Travis can score 360K+, Chris Brown is #1 on Urban AC, Morgan Wallen continues on, etc.
Is KP working with Dr. L on that level?
It's strange, but the *only* real PR KP has gotten from this project, has been this controversy. If not for that *buzz*, '143' would be a complete non-event after 2 flop singles that came and went in 6 weeks. Worse, both songs were extremely weak. If the music was good, it might be easier to accept Dr. L's involvement, but it's not.
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Post by Dylan :) on Sept 5, 2024 14:15:23 GMT -5
I wonder will people hold Max Martin, LunchMoney Lewis and Emily Warren to the same standard as Katy in regards to their working with Luke too
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Post by Carlitoz on Sept 5, 2024 14:25:17 GMT -5
What new song is coming out tomorrow? I haven’t seen anything about that. Can't recall the name. I read it here I guess last week. It was a collaboration with another female singer. I didn't recognize her though. If I find the post I'll pay attention.
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Post by Carlitoz on Sept 5, 2024 14:29:20 GMT -5
I wonder will people hold Max Martin, LunchMoney Lewis and Emily Warren to the same standard as Katy in regards to their working with Luke too Good question. Maybe not. The songs being so blah and the video for WW being so ridiculous for sure didn't help the way people welcomed the new project.
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Post by avamaxstan on Sept 5, 2024 14:31:07 GMT -5
I wonder will people hold Max Martin, LunchMoney Lewis and Emily Warren to the same standard as Katy in regards to their working with Luke too Maybe because two of them are complete nobodies and none of them have stans to mobilize and turn on them? So unserious.
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Post by wjr15 on Sept 5, 2024 14:51:45 GMT -5
What new song is coming out tomorrow? I haven’t seen anything about that. Can't recall the name. I read it here I guess last week. It was a collaboration with another female singer. I didn't recognize her though. If I find the post I'll pay attention. ‘I’m His, He’s Mine’ ft. Doechii?
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 5, 2024 15:07:02 GMT -5
Crazy that the album is coming out in two weeks. Music wise there is NOTHING going on! The "buzz" is 100% for all the wrong reasons. So tomorrow the new song comes out, right? Let's see if it's going to be SO good that it will save the project. It would have to be out-of-this-world good. We'll know in less than 24 hours I guess. This is probably the worst rollout of an era I’ve ever seen.
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Post by wjr15 on Sept 5, 2024 15:08:21 GMT -5
Crazy that the album is coming out in two weeks. Music wise there is NOTHING going on! The "buzz" is 100% for all the wrong reasons. So tomorrow the new song comes out, right? Let's see if it's going to be SO good that it will save the project. It would have to be out-of-this-world good. We'll know in less than 24 hours I guess. This is probably the worst rollout of an era I’ve ever seen. And I thought it couldn’t get worse after Smile’s rollout. I genuinely hope Katy is done with Capitol after this album.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 5, 2024 15:26:19 GMT -5
This is probably the worst rollout of an era I’ve ever seen. And I thought it couldn’t get worse after Smile’s rollout. I genuinely hope Katy is done with Capitol after this album. I mean, even Madame X had a better rollout lol.
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Post by avamaxstan on Sept 5, 2024 15:51:07 GMT -5
This is probably the worst rollout of an era I’ve ever seen. And I thought it couldn’t get worse after Smile’s rollout. I genuinely hope Katy is done with Capitol after this album. The thing is, the actual rollout and promo has been very good. Katy and the project are everywhere, she's hitting all the big press stops. This blame for this disaster falls on Katy, her awful choices and her astounding tone-deafness.
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 5, 2024 15:53:22 GMT -5
Yeah so there was never a song coming this week. A stan account assumed someone here on Pulse was a radio insider and made up a garbage rumour that 'I'm His, He's Mine' was coming this week. The rumour was sus from the beginning because there was never any corroborating evidence.
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Post by Dylan :) on Sept 5, 2024 16:00:14 GMT -5
I wonder will people hold Max Martin, LunchMoney Lewis and Emily Warren to the same standard as Katy in regards to their working with Luke too Maybe because two of them are complete nobodies and none of them have stans to mobilize and turn on them? So unserious. And Max Martin? I only included the other two as I’ve seen them credited quite a few times lately. I don’t disagree with the way Katy is being treat so you can calm it with the “so unserious”
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Post by avamaxstan on Sept 5, 2024 16:10:29 GMT -5
Maybe because two of them are complete nobodies and none of them have stans to mobilize and turn on them? So unserious. And Max Martin? I only included the other two as I’ve seen them credited quite a few times lately. I don’t disagree with the way Katy is being treat so you can calm it with the “so unserious” See the second half of my sentence. Max Martin is not a global pop star nor massive celebrity. He may craft the hits, but Katy is the face and voice of the hits, she is who fans and listeners show up for (or used to). Also, I know that both Max and Luke produced for this album, but did they even collaborate? I haven't heard that.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 5, 2024 16:14:56 GMT -5
What new song is coming out tomorrow? I haven’t seen anything about that. Can't recall the name. I read it here I guess last week. It was a collaboration with another female singer. I didn't recognize her though. If I find the post I'll pay attention. I guess it’s been cancelled
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Post by Az Paynter on Sept 5, 2024 16:24:23 GMT -5
SPRΞΞ It was never cancelled because it was never happening in the first place. Look literally three posts up from you lol! That stan account cited 70jack90 right here on Pulse as their 'confirmation' because he listed it as 'coming soon' on his Sunday published radio update wrap-up posts and they assumed he was a radio insider (he's not).
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Post by Dylan :) on Sept 5, 2024 16:31:00 GMT -5
And Max Martin? I only included the other two as I’ve seen them credited quite a few times lately. I don’t disagree with the way Katy is being treat so you can calm it with the “so unserious” See the second half of my sentence. Max Martin is not a global pop star nor massive celebrity. He may craft the hits, but Katy is the face and voice of the hits, she is who fans and listeners show up for (or used to). Also, I know that both Max and Luke produced for this album, but did they even collaborate? I haven't heard that. Stans might not know him but celebrities do. Singers who choose to Max Martin going forward, are they as bad as Katy? As for have they collabed, ObhiDonna‘s list says they did on the Kim Petras track
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 5, 2024 16:39:59 GMT -5
See the second half of my sentence. Max Martin is not a global pop star nor massive celebrity. He may craft the hits, but Katy is the face and voice of the hits, she is who fans and listeners show up for (or used to). Also, I know that both Max and Luke produced for this album, but did they even collaborate? I haven't heard that. Stans might not know him but celebrities do. Singers who choose to Max Martin going forward, are they as bad as Katy? As for have they collabed, ObhiDonna‘s list says they did on the Kim Petras track I feel like this is a disingenuous comparison. Apples to oranges. There are a myriad of factors in terms of potential backlash that you're purposefully glossing over it feels like to push this narrative Katy is somehow being unfairly criticized when that isn't the case. Potential backlash like this varies from artist to artist (depending on their target audience), from person to person (dependent on their image), let alone from artist to producer. It's so much more complex than just anyone and anything that touches the disreputable person gets shamed. For instance someone with a squeaky clean image found working with Luke isn't going to receive the same backlash as someone like Nicki Minaj who is synonymous with drama/infamous behavior. I feel like all this should go without saying, but it's gonna have to be broken down because some are gonna go out of their way to try to paint Katy as a victim of this whole situation when in fact she was not only a willing participant, but the direct source of her own problems.
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Post by avamaxstan on Sept 5, 2024 16:41:52 GMT -5
See the second half of my sentence. Max Martin is not a global pop star nor massive celebrity. He may craft the hits, but Katy is the face and voice of the hits, she is who fans and listeners show up for (or used to). Also, I know that both Max and Luke produced for this album, but did they even collaborate? I haven't heard that. Stans might not know him but celebrities do. Singers who choose to Max Martin going forward, are they as bad as Katy? As for have they collabed, ObhiDonna‘s list says they did on the Kim Petras track Huh? Max Martin has not been accused of sexual assault... are you confusing him with Dr. Luke? I appreciate that you're playing devil's advocate, but trying to equate Katy Perry with a random background singer (or even a respected producer) for a "double standard" argument really doesn't hold any water and is a bit silly.
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Post by wavey. on Sept 5, 2024 18:22:21 GMT -5
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Post by Caviar on Sept 5, 2024 18:25:52 GMT -5
This whole thread devolved into a mess.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Sept 5, 2024 18:36:24 GMT -5
I agree with most of the posters here, she's out of touch and working again with DrL is truly one of her worst decisions ever, but this thread is sooo boring and repetitive, you can go to page 25 and read exactly the same things, beating a dead horse atp.
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