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Post by tamed09 on Sept 12, 2024 1:43:45 GMT -5
One of her greatest performances ever! Amazing job Katy
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Post by SHOOTER on Sept 12, 2024 2:53:27 GMT -5
Incredible performance although, to me, it really did heighten how underwhelming and basic this new material is in comparison to the rest of her catalog (Lifetimes does fit in well at least).
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Post by wavey. on Sept 12, 2024 8:26:29 GMT -5
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 12, 2024 8:53:04 GMT -5
Where are the people who say her entire career is smoke and mirrors and one big fluke?
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Sept 12, 2024 9:40:55 GMT -5
She did great on her medley and she looked phenomenal! I can tell between her statement in her speech "a decade is NOT an accident" and her crying when she discovered she won a fan-voted award that all the backlash is seemingly getting to her a bit, which is unfortunate. I hate that they're pushing "I'm His, He's Mine" as it's kinda blah. I still am wanting to hear "Gorgeous" in full. tbh, I don't think she would win against Beyonce, Gaga and especially Taylor in a fan-voted category in 2024, and like I said yesterday, her 2013 performance was very good, but not the MOST iconic one, that belongs to something by Britney imo, since she's basically the synonym for the VMAs...but it was really nice seeing Katy happy when she found out about the win, not saying she's an angel or anything, but the hate she got in the last two months was so over the top and forced imo. So, kudos to MTV for inviting Katy to perform and awarding her with two big awards, at probably the lowest point in her career (given the hate and album's performance so far), someone finally showed appreciation, and I really think she needed this moment.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 12, 2024 10:34:20 GMT -5
tbh, I don't think she would win against Beyonce, Gaga and especially Taylor in a fan-voted category in 2024, and like I said yesterday, her 2013 performance was very good, but not the MOST iconic one, that belongs to something by Britney imo, since she's basically the synonym for the VMAs...but it was really nice seeing Katy happy when she found out about the win, not saying she's an angel or anything, but the hate she got in the last two months was so over the top and forced imo. So, kudos to MTV for inviting Katy to perform and awarding her with two big awards, at probably the lowest point in her career (given the hate and album's performance so far), someone finally showed appreciation, and I really think she needed this moment. I think it's obvious the award for the performance was given for her attendance as realistically there's no way that performance of "Roar" beat out the slew of other better performances, but I didn't mind that at all as the MTV Video Music Awards has become more or less an attendance-based award show and it was nice to see her take one home (other than the one that she was performing for). As for the "hate", I think a lot of people conflate hate with accountability. Most of the criticism hurled at Katy that I've seen the last few months hasn't been "hate" as in just hurling insults her way, defaming her left and right for no justifiable reason other than people don't like her. I've seen people criticizing her actions and her material, two things of which everyone was completely justified in criticizing. I'm not one of these fans who think she was mistreated or too harshly judged. She certainly wasn't mindful of how her decisions would affect other people, so I have trouble rumaging up sympathy for her, especially given she took no personal accountability, never apologized or acknowledged anyone offended, and even acted defiant as if she were victimized by her own choices in her acceptance speech. I think she made poor choices and had to answer for them to the extent anyone else of her stature would. That's just my opinion. All in all, I never want her emotionally unwell or taking any criticism too much to heart, but she absolutely should be listening and growing and not just ignoring and scoffing when people tell her she's being tone-deaf and she's making terrible decisions for her own benefit. Whether people think so or not Katy stands in her own way a lot of the time and that comes down to ego that she obviously is still working through. Regardless of it all, I'm still excited for a few tracks and hope, really hope they keep 143 from being a dud for me. "I'm His, He's Mine" really stuck out in a bad way amidst the greatest/biggest songs of her career yesterday. It being the next release kind killed any last bit of hope I had of any single having a potentially moderate run, but my fingers are still crossed for those 5-7 tracks we haven't heard in full.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Sept 12, 2024 11:02:47 GMT -5
Her A&R guy posted a very telling story on IG about Luke today. How he's such a GREAT (yeah, all caps), honest man and a dear friend, lol. So yeah, it doesn't look like it was just her poor decision making, her team definitely helped do this era in.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Sept 12, 2024 11:19:32 GMT -5
I mean...she is kinda giving Stockholm Syndrome this era, so not surprised in the slightest. I can't wait for her to rewrite history when this era is firmly in her rearview.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Sept 12, 2024 11:24:05 GMT -5
tbh, I don't think she would win against Beyonce, Gaga and especially Taylor in a fan-voted category in 2024, and like I said yesterday, her 2013 performance was very good, but not the MOST iconic one, that belongs to something by Britney imo, since she's basically the synonym for the VMAs...but it was really nice seeing Katy happy when she found out about the win, not saying she's an angel or anything, but the hate she got in the last two months was so over the top and forced imo. So, kudos to MTV for inviting Katy to perform and awarding her with two big awards, at probably the lowest point in her career (given the hate and album's performance so far), someone finally showed appreciation, and I really think she needed this moment. As for the "hate", I think a lot of people conflate hate with accountability. Most of the criticism hurled at Katy that I've seen the last few months hasn't been "hate" as in just hurling insults her way, defaming her left and right for no justifiable reason other than people don't like her. I've seen people criticizing her actions and her material, two things of which everyone was completely justified in criticizing. I'm not one of these fans who think she was mistreated or too harshly judged. She certainly wasn't mindful of how her decisions would affect other people, so I have trouble rumaging up sympathy for her, especially given she took no personal accountability, never apologized or acknowledged anyone offended, and even acted defiant as if she were victimized by her own choices in her acceptance speech. I think she made poor choices and had to answer for them to the extent anyone else of her stature would. That's just my opinion. All in all, I never want her emotionally unwell or taking any criticism too much to heart, but she absolutely should be listening and growing and not just ignoring and scoffing when people tell her she's being tone-deaf and she's making terrible decisions for her own benefit. Whether people think so or not Katy stands in her own way a lot of the time and that comes down to ego that she obviously is still working through. I support constructive criticism, but trust me, most of the tweets I've seen with 50k, 60k, 100k+ likes, were anything but that, I mean it's the Twitter after all, you can't expect it there. Some articles by professional journalists were awful and clearly subjective, and yes Katy allowed it with her decisions, but people can always give constructive advice and criticism, and yet some choose to be shady because it's fun? Most of the posts on Pulse were really fine and I agree with a lot of them, so it doesn't apply to this site. My only criticism was the repetitiveness, but that's my issue, the world doesn't revolve around me lol.
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Post by Ty on Sept 12, 2024 11:27:35 GMT -5
It's been 14 hours and MTV's Youtube channel still has "Roar" in the title. 🥴🥴
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 12, 2024 11:37:03 GMT -5
I support constructive criticism, but trust me, most of the tweets I've seen with 50k, 60k, 100k+ likes, were anything but that, I mean it's the Twitter after all, you can't expect it there. Yeah, I am rarely if ever on Twitter as it's a cesspool of immaturity and gross behavior; essentially everyone and everything gets bullied there. lol This is again something that was completely under Katy's control in my opinion. Had she simply addressed it initially and acknowledged people's feelings on it within an appropriate time frame, it could have easily been nipped then and there, but instead she chose to continually ignore it (with nothing much else really going on) and by the time she acknowledged it at all, she gave a non-response response which only added fuel to the fire and made things worse tbh.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Sept 12, 2024 11:38:59 GMT -5
Firework is really a song for everything. Independence Day, New Year, Inauguration, Coronation, Super Bowl, empowerment and this:
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 12, 2024 11:45:57 GMT -5
It's funny because I remember "Firework" got so much hate when TD first came out. People were saying her screaming in the chorus was unlistenable yada yada. Funny how it's now one of her biggest songs! Personally I prefer "Unconditionally" as her big-belt "ballad" but I know I'm in the minority on that one. lol Still "Firework" is a classic.
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Post by wavey. on Sept 12, 2024 12:48:18 GMT -5
As for the "hate", I think a lot of people conflate hate with accountability. Most of the criticism hurled at Katy that I've seen the last few months hasn't been "hate" as in just hurling insults her way, defaming her left and right for no justifiable reason other than people don't like her. I've seen people criticizing her actions and her material, two things of which everyone was completely justified in criticizing. I'm not one of these fans who think she was mistreated or too harshly judged. She certainly wasn't mindful of how her decisions would affect other people, so I have trouble rumaging up sympathy for her, especially given she took no personal accountability, never apologized or acknowledged anyone offended, and even acted defiant as if she were victimized by her own choices in her acceptance speech. I think she made poor choices and had to answer for them to the extent anyone else of her stature would. That's just my opinion. All in all, I never want her emotionally unwell or taking any criticism too much to heart, but she absolutely should be listening and growing and not just ignoring and scoffing when people tell her she's being tone-deaf and she's making terrible decisions for her own benefit. Whether people think so or not Katy stands in her own way a lot of the time and that comes down to ego that she obviously is still working through. but people can always give constructive advice and criticism, and yet some choose to be shady because it's fun? My only criticism was the repetitiveness, but that's my issue, the world doesn't revolve around me lol. This. Mfs like to drag and judge shit, and that's my op..But I am looking forward to happier moments.
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Post by Choco on Sept 12, 2024 12:48:59 GMT -5
Yeah I agree it's more about her not owning her poor choices rather than hate... I was sort of here for Witness and was also here for Smile. I was rooting for her. I'm here for her making a comeback. It's just basically impossible to support her fully this time around.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Sept 12, 2024 13:05:53 GMT -5
It was a victory lap of a performance. She has a catalogue of incredible, iconic tunes and she should be proud of last night.
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Post by ObhiDonna on Sept 12, 2024 13:17:17 GMT -5
There’s no other way but to praise the amazing VMA performance. This is why I think even if 143 is not successful, she will find the success in the still unannounced tour. I hope all elements from this performance is there in the tour.
I knew they would show Taylor somewhere in the performance lol. Wonder what she was saying. Also did I miss the butterflies completely? All I remember was her holding a butterfly drone at the end.
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Post by wjr15 on Sept 12, 2024 13:45:09 GMT -5
There’s no other way but to praise the amazing VMA performance. This is why I think even if 143 is not successful, she will find the success in the still unannounced tour. I hope all elements from this performance is there in the tour. I knew they would show Taylor somewhere in the performance lol. Wonder what she was saying. Also did I miss the butterflies completely? All I remember was her holding a butterfly drone at the end. Katy’s Vegas residency received critical acclaim and her Vanguard medley reminded people that she can put on a good show. I think her tour will do fine because she will always have a huge catalog to fall back on. I saw a video somewhere on IG of a split screen showing Taylor dancing to all of Katy’s songs during her performance. Also, the butterflies appeared during her Firework performance and then she carried one back to the main stage for Lifetimes.
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Post by shakemaki on Sept 12, 2024 14:05:13 GMT -5
She did fantastic with the performance. ET was the highlight and actually reminded me why I thought that song was so damn cool back in the day in the first place lol.
Gripes with her outfit though, which was super dull and blah to wear for a whole 10 min performance. And the Doechii song was giving me major Swish Swish teas (obv not a compliment), but I’m just talking about the song itself.
Lmao at her winning the most iconic VMA performance ever for Roar or whatever though. Come again?? It was a surprise that one was even nominated next to the others. I don’t even think diehard Katy Cats could stand by that (and lol at Roar not even being a part of her medley).
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Sept 12, 2024 14:11:55 GMT -5
I'm really glad Katy and Taylor are on good terms again.
My favorite KP-TS moments from last night:
"WHERE'S THE BEAT DROP?"
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Post by Ty on Sept 12, 2024 14:15:42 GMT -5
We love to see queens supporting each other!!
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Post by Envoirment on Sept 12, 2024 14:18:10 GMT -5
She gave such a great performance at the VMAs! Certainly a catalogue of great songs. Hoping we'll have a few more on the album when we get a chance to hear it in full.
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Post by Ty on Sept 12, 2024 14:25:24 GMT -5
Do we see her dipping into country at some point?
I feel like it would take something as drastic as that to revive GP's interests in her new music.
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Post by avamaxstan on Sept 12, 2024 14:28:37 GMT -5
VMA Medley: "Dark Horse" "E.T." "I'm His, He's Mine" (with Doechii) "California Gurls" "Teenage Dream" "I Kissed a Girl" "Firework" "Lifetimes" Funny that she didn’t do Roar, but won an award for it. Also no Woman's World. Yikes! It made sense to skip Roar, since she's already performed it at the VMAs, and it's such a saccharine corny song that wouldn't have fit with the aesthetic of the performance. Katy is pretending that WW never happened, just as she should.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 12, 2024 14:55:51 GMT -5
The performance kinda booked! HIT AFTER HIT.
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Post by shakemaki on Sept 12, 2024 14:59:47 GMT -5
Do we see her dipping into country at some point? I feel like it would take something as drastic as that to revive GP's interests in her new music. Oh geez, I hope not. Country is more vocal centric than her brand of pop, and Katy’s voice being at the forefront is always a recipe for disaster. I will always maintain that’s why she couldn’t have a proper ballad hit (no Firework is not a ballad). The vocals on Thinking of You always make me legit cringe to think of, far from a mystery why that was her only flop for ages.
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Post by It’s me again, bitch on Sept 12, 2024 15:32:15 GMT -5
It's funny because I remember "Firework" got so much hate when TD first came out. People were saying her screaming in the chorus was unlistenable yada yada. Funny how it's now one of her biggest songs! Personally I prefer "Unconditionally" as her big-belt "ballad" but I know I'm in the minority on that one. lol Still "Firework" is a classic. I think Unconditionally would be a great wedding song.
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Post by It’s me again, bitch on Sept 12, 2024 15:35:39 GMT -5
The performance kinda booked! HIT AFTER HIT. We need new hits though.
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Sept 12, 2024 16:03:01 GMT -5
The performance kinda booked! HIT AFTER HIT. We need new hits though. Sadly, they don't appear to be there. But, hey, Katy can now join the illustrious ranks of artists good for a throwback, as she proved last night with her old songs!
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Post by Ryan on Sept 12, 2024 23:07:36 GMT -5
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