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Post by fridayteenage on Jun 19, 2022 0:58:15 GMT -5
icon olivia rodrigo has 3 huge solo top 3 hits and a 50 week top 10 album. she'll be fine.
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Post by Mayman on Jun 19, 2022 1:10:32 GMT -5
It's interesting that Adele, The Weeknd, Post, Kendrick, and Drake are seeing underperforming eras (at least by their own lofty standards). Certainly none of their careers are "over", and their legacies are cemented, but it may signal a changing of the guard. Maybe Bad Bunny will be to the '20s what Drake was to the '10s? Maybe Doja Cat will get half a dozen or more number ones by 2029? It's time we start seeing the new icons of this decade emerge.It is probably hard to hear, but the younger generation just does not have the artistry or charisma to attain that status. People get their by reaching all generations, and the younger artistsβ output is too jejune to achieve that. It is more so that the opposition is stumbling, not that Bad Bunny and Doja Cat are outright winning. Their albums are successful, but they are nowhere near as big as other ones from the artists that you have in your post. And the singles are not exactly huge even though are pretty successful singles. It is almost a best of the worst situation. The biggest reasons for this are people not really listening to airwaves anymore, therefore preventing a monoculture, and people not having any music education classes anymore. I now have a better way of describing it: The younger artists just do not have any musicality, which is present in every other generation of superstars. I do see Doja Cat being the closest to achieving that, but that is because of her having an awesome team to help hone her artistry This is the dumbest thing I've read here in a while. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 19, 2022 1:19:07 GMT -5
I like that the idea of not having a monoculture is somehow a bad thing
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Jun 19, 2022 4:53:32 GMT -5
It is probably hard to hear, but the younger generation just does not have the artistry or charisma to attain that status. People get their by reaching all generations, and the younger artistsβ output is too jejune to achieve that. It is more so that the opposition is stumbling, not that Bad Bunny and Doja Cat are outright winning. Their albums are successful, but they are nowhere near as big as other ones from the artists that you have in your post. And the singles are not exactly huge even though are pretty successful singles. It is almost a best of the worst situation. The biggest reasons for this are people not really listening to airwaves anymore, therefore preventing a monoculture, and people not having any music education classes anymore. I now have a better way of describing it: The younger artists just do not have any musicality, which is present in every other generation of superstars. I do see Doja Cat being the closest to achieving that, but that is because of her having an awesome team to help hone her artistry um... okay boomer? Music is subjective, there was great music made in the 70's, there's equally great music being made today. Just different styles and production methods. Gen Z music can be pretty creative too, ie hyperpop |
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Jun 19, 2022 4:55:31 GMT -5
This is the dumbest thing I've read here in a while. even with all the stuff I say? |
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Post by JukeboxJacob on Jun 19, 2022 4:57:46 GMT -5
I like that the idea of not having a monoculture is somehow a bad thing well as pop culture and music chart enthusiasts, it's not as interesting |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 19, 2022 6:31:56 GMT -5
I like that the idea of not having a monoculture is somehow a bad thing well as pop culture and music chart enthusiasts, it's not as interesting so because things are less centralized and there's more variety, that's somehow less interesting? |
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Post by Ryan on Jun 19, 2022 7:04:07 GMT -5
Drake on Spotify - Day 2:
#1 (β²1) Jimmy Cooks 2,583,823 (-1,058,255)
#3 (β½2) Falling Back 1,688,956 (-1,970,700)
#4 (=) Sticky 1,575,838 (-1,153,910)
#7 (β½4) Texts Go Green 1,332,695 (-1,589,350)
#8 (β²2) Massive 1,258,366 (-904,910)
#9 (β½2) A Keeper 1,208,577 (-1,212,518)
#11 (β½3) Currents 1,099,694 (-1,294,335)
#12 (β½3) Calling My Name 1,078,421 (-1,172,803)
#15 (β½4) Flight's Booked 967,980 (-864,029)
#20 (β½15) Intro 866,706 (-1,766,666)
#21 (β½9) Overdrive 825,291 (-775,086)
#24 (β½8) Liability 725,373 (-596,126)
#25 (β½10) Down Hill 716,753 (-689,827)
#29 (β½12) Tie That Binds 695,069 (-601,973)
Total: 16,623,542 (-15,650,488, -48.5%)
2-day total: 48,897,572
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 19, 2022 7:17:40 GMT -5
Pushing Falling Back really was a mistake - JC and Massive are the songs that people seem to like the most.
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Post by thatpolishboy on Jun 19, 2022 7:19:05 GMT -5
Not as bad of a drop for Drake as usual album bombs go. But, then again the numbers weren't as monstrous to begin with.
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Post by lurker2 on Jun 19, 2022 7:45:12 GMT -5
Not as bad of a drop for Drake as usual album bombs go. But, then again the numbers weren't as monstrous to begin with. By percentage it appears to be the worst drop of a major album in a while - CLB was 44%, which was the previous high AFAIK. And CLB definitely outstreamed this day 1. |
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Post by Envoirment on Jun 19, 2022 8:23:21 GMT -5
Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God) 10.32 (+1.52)
Its airplay is making some big strides. Should be at a good number by the time the season finale of Stranger Things airs! Still rooting for this to get a week at #1 on the Hot 100.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jun 19, 2022 8:28:16 GMT -5
Upcoming Hot 100 #1βs:
7/2: Drake
7/9: Luke Combs (most likely The Kind of Love We Make)
7/16: Running Up That Hill
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Post by Groovy on Jun 19, 2022 8:36:42 GMT -5
The pandemic will officially end before Rihanna releases another album.
Anyways, I'll do the updates again today.
1(=). First Class - Jack Harlow 110.08 (-0.02)
2(=). As It Was - Harry Styles 101.30 (-0.11)
3(=). About Damn Time - Lizzo 89.15(+2.00)
4(=). Latto & Mariah Carey - Big Energy (Remix) [feat. DJ Khaled] 72.86 (-1.33)
5(=). Dove Cameron - Boyfriend 68.53 (-0.32)
6(+1). Stay - The Kid Laroi & Justin Bieber 63.72 (+0.06)
7(-1). Glass Animals - Heat Waves 63.13 (-0.98)
8(=). Em Beihold - Numb Little Bug 60.73 (+0.48)
9(=). Justin Bieber - Ghost 57.61 (-0.08)
10(=). Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 51.24 (+0.87)
49(+3). Post Malone - I Like You (A Happier Song) [feat. Doja Cat] 23.40 (1.04)
50(+1). Nicky Youre & Dazy - Sunroof 23.33 (+0.83)
-(-). Alex Rose - Sentido feat. Wisin Y Yandel 1.56 (+0.86)+
-(-). Luke Combs - The Kind of Love We Make 10.14 (1.59)
-(-). Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God) 10.32 (+1.52)
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Post by kierz7 on Jun 19, 2022 8:47:54 GMT -5
It's interesting that Adele, The Weeknd, Post, Kendrick, and Drake are seeing underperforming eras (at least by their own lofty standards). Certainly none of their careers are "over", and their legacies are cemented, but it may signal a changing of the guard. Maybe Bad Bunny will be to the '20s what Drake was to the '10s? Maybe Doja Cat will get half a dozen or more number ones by 2029? It's time we start seeing the new icons of this decade emerge.It is probably hard to hear, but the younger generation just does not have the artistry or charisma to attain that status. People get their by reaching all generations, and the younger artistsβ output is too jejune to achieve that. It is more so that the opposition is stumbling, not that Bad Bunny and Doja Cat are outright winning. Their albums are successful, but they are nowhere near as big as other ones from the artists that you have in your post. And the singles are not exactly huge even though are pretty successful singles. It is almost a best of the worst situation. The biggest reasons for this are people not really listening to airwaves anymore, therefore preventing a monoculture, and people not having any music education classes anymore. I now have a better way of describing it: The younger artists just do not have any musicality, which is present in every other generation of superstars. I do see Doja Cat being the closest to achieving that, but that is because of her having an awesome team to help hone her artistry Non-Boomer hereβ¦ I agree! π€ |
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Post by atg on Jun 19, 2022 8:54:20 GMT -5
Pushing Falling Back really was a mistake - JC and Massive are the songs that people seem to like the most. I think itβll clearly end up being a WN/Wants and Needs situation with Falling Back and Jimmy Cooks respectively, and any other track(s) could end up being the streaming sleeper as well, kind of too early to tell. Thereβs also AM to fall back on if the Spotify numbers end up not performing as well, but with Wait For U, Me Porto Bonito and Titi Me Pregunto catching back up already iβm not sure if that would be the case either but iβll give it a chance. |
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Post by fridayteenage on Jun 19, 2022 8:55:56 GMT -5
day 2: i like you - 1.65 million. About the same as Falling Back.
late night talking - 2.52 million. About the same as Jimmy Cooks.
n95 - 2.76 million. (die hard 2.14, grief 2.08)
moscow mule - 1.87 million. (despues de la playa 1.66)
I remember when people thought Kendrick's album was a bit divisive for being not catchy/dance-y enough.
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Post by mms82 on Jun 19, 2022 9:05:18 GMT -5
Upcoming Hot 100 #1βs: 7/2: Drake 7/9: Luke Combs (most likely The Kind of Love We Make) 7/16: Running Up That Hill Wow, I actually agree with a Phi random prediction! I'm hoping/thinking this is right |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 19, 2022 9:45:02 GMT -5
US Spotify - 06/17/22
Drake - Honestly, Nevermind
1(+1) Jimmy Cooks 2,583,823 (-1,058,255)
3(-2) Falling Back 1,688,956 (-1,970,700)
4(=) Sticky 1,575,838 (-1,153,910)
7(-4) Texts Go Green 1,332,695 (-1,589,350)
8(+2) Massive 1,258,366 (-904,910)
9(-2) A Keeper 1,208,577 (-1,212,518)
11(-3) Currents 1,099,694 (-1,294,335)
12(-3) Calling My Name 1,078,421 (-1,172,803)
15(-4) Flight's Booked 967,980 (-864,029)
20(-15) Intro 866,706 (-1,766,666)
21(-9) Overdrive 825,291 (-775,086)
24(-8) Liability 725,373 (-596,126)
25(-10) Downhill 716,753 (-689,827)
29(-12) Tie That Binds 695,069 (-601,973)
Total Streams: 16,623,542 (-48%)
Others:
2(+4) Joji - Glimpse of Us 2,257,968 (-216,108)
5(+8) Harry Styles - As It Was 1,503,760 (-33,388)
6(+8) Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God) 1,430,543 (-75,124)
10(+8) Bad Bunny, Chencho Corleone - Me Porto Bonito 1,189,230 (+33,786)
13(+7) Bad Bunny - TitΓ Me PreguntΓ³ 1,055,194 (+47,202)
14(+8) Jack Harlow - First Class 972,083 (-3,342)
16(+3) Post Malone, Doja Cat - I Like You (A Happier Song) 959,308 (-62,096)
17(+4) Future, Drake, Tems - WAIT FOR U 947,629 (-48,835)
18(+5) Lizzo - About Damn Time 904,610 (-18,417)
19(+5) Harry Styles - Late Night Talking 872,723 (-45,537)
22(+5) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 774,981 (-11,571)
23(+5) Bad Bunny, Bomba EstΓ©reo - Ojitos Lindos 774,084 (+1,552)
26(+4) Bad Bunny - Efecto 712,520 (+21,734)
27(+2) Doja Cat - Vegas 696,223 (-14,559)
28(+3) Bad Bunny - Moscow Mule 695,732 (+9,596)
30(-4) Pharrell Williams, 21 Savage, Tyler, The Creator - Cash In Cash Out 680,202 (-107,464)
31(-6) Luke Combs - The Kind of Love We Make 672,527 (-133,761)
32(+1) Bad Bunny, Rauw Alejandro - Party 669,058 (+27,514)
33(+1) Bad Bunny - DespuΓ©s de la Playa 635,148 (+18,035)
34(-2) Post Malone, Roddy Ricch - Cooped Up 627,950 (-37,652)
35(=) Harry Styles - Music for a Sushi Restaurant 563,013 (-29,972)
36(+1) Future - PUFFIN ON ZOOTIEZ 562,102 (+5,512)
37(+2) KAROL G - PROVENZA 556,031 (+7,193)
38(=) Morgan Wallen - Wasted On You 554,156 (-835)
39(-3) Morgan Wallen - You Proof 549,342 (-7,354)
41(=) The Kid LAROI - STAY 516,171 (-9,089)
42(+2) J. Cole - No Role Modelz 514,461 (-4,422)
43(-1) Nicky Youre, dazy - Sunroof 513,219 (-7,131)
44(+5) Bad Bunny, Jhay Cortez - Tarot 493,615 (+9,676)
45(=) Harry Styles - Daylight 480,622 (-31,405)
46(=) Sleepy Hallow, 347aidan - Die Young 474,796 (-20,618)
47(+1) Justin Bieber - Ghost 468,859 (-20,618)
49(+3) Kendrick Lamar - N95 463,769 (-14,173)
51(-4) Harry Styles - Matilda 453,160 (-38,615)
53(+1) Joji - SLOW DANCING IN THE DARK 440,188 (-19,972)
55(+7) Bad Bunny - Un Ratito 427,567 (+7,647)
56(=) OneRepublic - I Ain't Worried 427,356 (-17,490)
58(-1) XXXTENTACION, Kanye West - True Love 419,648 (-23,822)
59(-16) Lil Baby, 42 Dugg, Veeze - U-Digg 414,141 (-105,366)
60(-1) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 411,600 (-25,725)
62(-1) Stephen Sanchez - Until I Found You 405,712 (-17,142)
63(-3) Harry Styles - Satellite 403,269 (-31,590)
64(+3) Camila Cabello - Bam Bam 393,933 (-8,242)
65(=) Harry Styles - Grapejuice 387,894 (-25,659)
66(+11) Bad Bunny, Tony Dize - La Corriente 387,112 (+8,110)
67(+12) Bad Bunny - Yo No Soy Celoso 385,120 (+7,333)
68(+5) Latto - Big Energy 384,750 (+1,489)
70(+15) Becky G, KAROL G - MAMIII 377,625 (+6,881)
72(-1) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 373,004 (-11,715)
73(-6) Harry Styles - Little Freak 372,741 (-30,582)
74(-4) The Weeknd - Die For You 370,808 (-17,131)
75(+3) Kendrick Lamar - Die Hard 370,464 (-9,829)
76(-2) Musical Youth - Pass the Dutchie 370,109 (-12,660)
78(+14) Bad Bunny - Neverita 367,750 (+9,179)
79(-4) WILLOW - Wait a Minute! 365,110 (-16,443)
82(+9) Megan Thee Stallion, Dua Lipa - Sweetest Pie 358,076 (-811)
83(=) Quavo, Takeoff - HOTEL LOBBY (Unc & Phew) 357,376 (-14,741)
91(-27) BTS - Yet to Come 344,575 (-70,791)
92(-2) Imagine Dragons - Enemy 342,839 (-21,051)
93(-4) Harry Styles - Keep Driving 341,513 (-24,991)
94(-14) Marshmello, Khalid - Numb 340,617 (-36,205)
98(+3) Jack Harlow - Dua Lipa 333,199 (-11,647)
101(-1) Dove Cameron - Boyfriend 329,850 (-16,923)
102(+9) Calvin Harris, Dua Lipa, Young Thug - Potion 323,589 (-8,687)
104(-2) Harry Styles - Cinema 322,922 (-21,046)
105(+2) Elley DuhΓ© - MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT 322,223 (-15,866)
107(-19) Bailey Zimmerman - Rock and A Hard Place 319,605 (-47,889)
108(-5) Harry Styles - Love of My Life 319,052 (-24,157)
109(+7) Kendrick Lamar - Rich Spirit 318,081 (-7,174)
110(-5) Harry Styles - Daydreaming 317,669 (-22,031)
113(-7) Polo G - Distraction 315,418 (-23,987)
115(+5) Morgan Wallen - Thought You Should Know 312,437 (-6,574)
118(+8) Future, Drake - I'M ON ONE 304,748 (-4,775)
122(-26) Halsey - So Good 300,512 (-51,849)
124(+10) Shakira, Rauw Alejandro - Te Felicito 298,377 (+757)
129(-2) SleazyWorld Go, Lil Baby - Sleazy Flow (Remix) 293,681 (-13,774)
137(-18) Post MalonΠ΅ - Wrapped Around Your Finger 286,892 (-35,630)
141(-86) Steve Lacy - Mercury 284,273 (-166,571)
142(+3) Kendrick Lamar - Silent Hill 282,729 (-2,621)
145(-13) The Kid Laroi - Thousand Miles 279,413 (-18,832)
152(-9) Ruth B. - Dandelions 273,588 (-13,397)
154(-4) Cody Johnson - 'Til You Can't 270,351 (-11,577)
155(+4) Nate Smith - Whiskey On You 268,534 (-2,722)
160(-16) Bailey Zimmerman - Fall in Love 266,437 (-19,853)
172(+6) Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 256,022 (-5,715)
183(-10) Tyler Hubbard - 5 Foot 9 248,252 (-14,961)
188(-5) Mr.Kitty - After Dark 244,727 (-13,428)
192(-10) Jack Harlow - Churchill Downs 244,048 (-15,160)
195(-4) Taylor Swift - Don't Blame Me 241,923 (-12,394)
197(re-entry) Cole Swindell - She Had Me At Heads Carolina 240,649
199(re-entry) Yung Gravy - Betty (Get Money) 239,921
Top 10 Without Drake
1. Glimpse of Us
2. As It Was.
3. Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God)
4. Me Porto Bonito
5. TitΓ Me PreguntΓ³
6. First Class
7. I Like You (A Happier Song)
8. WAIT FOR U
9. About Damn Time
10. Late Night Talking
Terrible numbers for Drake. I expect big drops for huge first days but to be down by almost 50%, that does not bode well at all for the longevity for a lighter album. Now this is far from the end of Drake - he'll bounce back with his next album I'm sure - but I was expecting this to have some longevity throughout the summer and it's looking like it'll not come anywhere near Bad Bunny's first week.
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Post by mms82 on Jun 19, 2022 10:45:25 GMT -5
Eh, Drake still might get his second number one of the year from an experimental surprise dance album, looks likely to break the record for the shortest charting song of all time, and for us afrobeat loving gays made a fantastic album.
Obviously wasnβt going to be a Scorpion or a Views but Iβd call it a success
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Post by loveless on Jun 19, 2022 11:35:02 GMT -5
Honestly, Nevermind is kind of a flop by Drakeβs standards, but heβs been so untouchable for so long that I canβt even see it as a particularly bad sign for him. I can totally see him coming back with an album thatβs more his typical style and having that Scorpion/CLB level success.
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Post by renaboss on Jun 19, 2022 11:36:43 GMT -5
I have sadly reached that age where I find myself thinking "they don't make music like they used to anymore." I wouldn't say I'm out of touch necessarily, since I do keep up with a variety of charts and have an annoying friend who shares most TikTok trends with me, but none of it excites me much - it takes a real novelty like a Disney song or a Kate Bush comeback to pique my interest. Album bombs have also really hindered the legitimacy of the Hot 100 and other charts for me; I don't need another lecture on how the weekly charts should accurately reflect the biggest songs on any given week, I still think all that data should be factored exclusively into the albums chart and have the Hot 100 go back to being a proper singles chart. But anyway.
My biggest problem, musically speaking, is with how lowbeat today's music is. It's the rare hit that makes you want to get up and dance, and proper ballads seem to be a thing of the past too, it's all very middle-of-the-road between the two. The point has been made here that today's music reflects the perpetual state of ennui that young listeners are in during these trying times, but let's face it, every single era has found the world at large saying that things keep getting worse, so that excuse only goes so far, and if anything I feel like upbeat music should be needed more then. Even pop music is following in the tradition of lowbeat hip-hop - what was the last Ariana song that actually went hard? "Break Free"?
Also, I hate that rising trend of making songs as short as possible to rack up more streams. If a song doesn't have a climax, I don't feel inclined to replay it, why be disappointed over and over?
It's hard not to think that today's pop stars really don't have what it takes to become A-listers, but it goes beyond their talent or versatility. The system is simply rigged against them - ever since the advent of the teen idol culture, every artist's peak follows one particular generation for a period of time, and once their listeners grow out of the contemporary hit scene, those artists are done for. And those eras keep getting shorter and shorter, meaning that artists have a slimmer chance of becoming legacy acts. It's still mind-boggling how huge Katy was for 5-6 years and how fast she fell. I love Doja, but I have a hard time imagining her selling out arenas ten years from now... Fingers crossed, though.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 19, 2022 11:44:09 GMT -5
I feel similar to a lot of that but donβt agree with most of it, at least in regards to the charts and how theyβre counted and such. However, I do agree with the shortened songs thing being a hindrance to hits reaching their full potential as far as quality goes. Thatβs a hill Iβd run up and die on.
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Post by gikem on Jun 19, 2022 11:53:43 GMT -5
With regards to the shorter length of songs, Iβm still waiting for record executives to figure out that extended versions are a thing and that not only do they really expand the number of streams for a song because thereβs more than one version to choose from, but it gives you the opportunity to make songs that sound fully fleshed out in terms of structure, thus increasing their quality and making people actually want to listen to them more. Thatβs how I finally got won over by Lil Nas Xβs song Montero - the extended mix puts it on another level for me.
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Post by mms82 on Jun 19, 2022 11:55:09 GMT -5
I have sadly reached that age where I find myself thinking "they don't make music like they used to anymore." I wouldn't say I'm out of touch necessarily, since I do keep up with a variety of charts and have an annoying friend who shares most TikTok trends with me, but none of it excites me much - it takes a real novelty like a Disney song or a Kate Bush comeback to pique my interest. Album bombs have also really hindered the legitimacy of the Hot 100 and other charts for me; I don't need another lecture on how the weekly charts should accurately reflect the biggest songs on any given week, I still think all that data should be factored exclusively into the albums chart and have the Hot 100 go back to being a proper singles chart. But anyway. My biggest problem, musically speaking, is with how lowbeat today's music is. It's the rare hit that makes you want to get up and dance, and proper ballads seem to be a thing of the past too, it's all very middle-of-the-road between the two. The point has been made here that today's music reflects the perpetual state of ennui that young listeners are in during these trying times, but let's face it, every single era has found the world at large saying that things keep getting worse, so that excuse only goes so far, and if anything I feel like upbeat music should be needed more then. Even pop music is following in the tradition of lowbeat hip-hop - what was the last Ariana song that actually went hard? "Break Free"? Also, I hate that rising trend of making songs as short as possible to rack up more streams. If a song doesn't have a climax, I don't feel inclined to replay it, why be disappointed over and over? It's hard not to think that today's pop stars really don't have what it takes to become A-listers, but it goes beyond their talent or versatility. The system is simply rigged against them - ever since the advent of the teen idol culture, every artist's peak follows one particular generation for a period of time, and once their listeners grow out of the contemporary hit scene, those artists are done for. And those eras keep getting shorter and shorter, meaning that artists have a slimmer chance of becoming legacy acts. It's still mind-boggling how huge Katy was for 5-6 years and how fast she fell. I love Doja, but I have a hard time imagining her selling out arenas ten years from now... Fingers crossed, though. I mean... times and trends change 1930s: I hate this new recorded music trend 1950s: I hate this new rock and roll trend 1970s: I hate this new disco trend 1990s: I hate this new rap trend 2010s: I hate this new EDM trend 2020s: I hate this new lowbeat trend your parents and grand parents and great grandparents have all said the same thing, music evolves and trends change. if you're upset by the state of popular music, popular music chart watching forums probably aren't the place for you |
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Post by mms82 on Jun 19, 2022 11:56:03 GMT -5
With regards to the shorter length of songs, Iβm still waiting for record executives to figure out that extended versions are a thing and that not only do they really expand the number of streams for a song because thereβs more than one version to choose from, but it gives you the opportunity to make songs that sound fully fleshed out in terms of structure, thus increasing their quality and making people actually want to listen to them more. Thatβs how I finally got won over by Lil Nas Xβs song Montero - the extended mix puts it on another level for me. an exciting perk of the new trend! I'm a big fan of the shorter song trend, and I think extended versions are a win/win that give more opportunities to find ways to enjoy a song and more opportunities for labels to make $$$ |
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Post by gikem on Jun 19, 2022 12:02:36 GMT -5
With regards to the shorter length of songs, Iβm still waiting for record executives to figure out that extended versions are a thing and that not only do they really expand the number of streams for a song because thereβs more than one version to choose from, but it gives you the opportunity to make songs that sound fully fleshed out in terms of structure, thus increasing their quality and making people actually want to listen to them more. Thatβs how I finally got won over by Lil Nas Xβs song Montero - the extended mix puts it on another level for me. an exciting perk of the new trend! I'm a big fan of the shorter song trend, and I think extended versions are a win/win that give more opportunities to find ways to enjoy a song and more opportunities for labels to make $$$ I would agree with you, but again, for whatever reason, very few songs are doing this at the moment. Aside from the aforementioned Montero, the only other recent examples I can think of are All Too Well (TV) and, in the opposite direction, Happier Than Ever. Everyone else seems to be content making songs that donβt surpass 3 minutes and then leaving it at that, aside from the occasional remix with another artist. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jun 19, 2022 12:06:10 GMT -5
I feel like we have this convo about younger artists not having "it" compared to older acts every 3 months and the responses are always the same. I'm just tired at this point.
I'm not gonna debunk any stances (y'all should know my opinions on this topic by now) but my question is this: why is it always music that takes the beating? Why is it never TV or movies or architecture or furniture or theatre or poetry? Why is it always music?
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 19, 2022 12:12:29 GMT -5
what was the last Ariana song that actually went hard? "Break Free"? Rain on Me. I know what you meant, but it's a joint lead! |
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Post by renaboss on Jun 19, 2022 12:27:37 GMT -5
I mean... times and trends change 1950s: I hate this new rock and roll trend 1970s: I hate this new disco trend 1990s: I hate this new rap trend 2010s: I hate this new EDM trend 2020s: I hate this new lowbeat trend your parents and grand parents and great grandparents have all said the same thing, music evolves and trends change. if you're upset by the state of popular music, popular music chart watching forums probably aren't the place for you I know, that's why I said I've reached that age when that sort of thing happens. It was bound to come. Sadly, I think chart-watching is a passion for life; I mean, there's people here who say they've been doing it since the '70s. I genuinely can't imagine how I would ever go without knowing what the current #1 is, feels like an alternate universe to me. Though I also used to listen to every single song that made top 10 and I haven't done that in a few years... It took me a long time to warm up to EDM myself, and I guess what got me into the charts in the first place when EDM was hot was seeing how most of my favorite songs ever, the music I grew up with, had been a hit at some point. I still find myself scouring through the history of the Hot 100 and other charts, looking for music I either recognize or end up liking. So I'm not yet out of place here, even if my interest is more past-leaning these days. It's okay sometimes to express dislike or disinterest without it being an attack or offense. I don't like the current state of pop music or pop charts, but the only reason I have an opinion in the first place is because I care. This, btw, is not an attack on you either, I think you phrased your point rather well, other people here would simply dismiss me with some snappy and predictable remark. |
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