Billboard Hot 100: 07/02/2022

[kierz7]

Jun 18, 2022 13:53:05 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

Jun 18, 2022 13:38:39 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

That said, we deserve another album from her (which we will be getting) considering she’s only released one in the streaming era. We have yet to see her the extent of her first-week power on Spotify/Apple Music.

😭

We all deserve to dream, Sis.

[renfield75]

Jun 18, 2022 13:38:39 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Jun 18, 2022 12:51:24 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

Rihanna's a weird case because she just kinda retired, but Beyonce and Taylor Swift are already past the point of needing radio hits and huge album eras. It's like Madonna in the 2000s: she had "Music", "Hung Up", "4 Minutes" and other hits but by that point she was already a legend and had nothing left to prove. That's where I see Beyonce and Taylor in the 2020s; hits are cool if they have them but they don't need them at this point.

I agree, but I think Rihanna is in the same position. The only difference is that the GP is pleading for new music from her and she will score hits, as always.

As a matter of fact, despite “retirement”, she’s constantly ranks in the top ten most streamed females (daily) on Spotify with only Taylor Swift, Doja Cat, Dua Lipa, Ariana Grande and Billie Eilish consistently above her and they’ve all released several projects this decade thus far. Rihanna is out-streaming Adele as we speak too and she just released. I don’t think there’s a female act alive who can disappear, musically, for so long and still be so in-demand, streaming wise.

That said, we deserve another album from her (which we will be getting) considering she’s only released one in the streaming era. We have yet to see her the extent of her first-week power on Spotify/Apple Music.

Oh yeah I agree Rihanna is in the same position legacy-wise, it's just that we didn't see the natural progression. Her imperial era just kinda...stopped. It will definitely be interesting to see how her next project fares (if/when it happens) beyond the initial hype. Either way she also has nothing to prove anymore. Maybe leaving the public eternally wanting more was the smart way to go?

[kierz7]

Jun 18, 2022 14:07:03 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

Jun 18, 2022 13:38:39 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

I agree, but I think Rihanna is in the same position. The only difference is that the GP is pleading for new music from her and she will score hits, as always.

As a matter of fact, despite “retirement”, she’s constantly ranks in the top ten most streamed females (daily) on Spotify with only Taylor Swift, Doja Cat, Dua Lipa, Ariana Grande and Billie Eilish consistently above her and they’ve all released several projects this decade thus far. Rihanna is out-streaming Adele as we speak too and she just released. I don’t think there’s a female act alive who can disappear, musically, for so long and still be so in-demand, streaming wise.

That said, we deserve another album from her (which we will be getting) considering she’s only released one in the streaming era. We have yet to see her the extent of her first-week power on Spotify/Apple Music.

Oh yeah I agree Rihanna is in the same position legacy-wise, it's just that we didn't see the natural progression. Her imperial era just kinda...stopped. It will definitely be interesting to see how her next project fares (if/when it happens) beyond the initial hype. Either way she also has nothing to prove anymore. Maybe leaving the public eternally wanting more was the smart way to go?

Meanwhile, her beauty/make-up/cosmetics/lingerie fans keep getting FED!

💀

Chile, we’re tired!

[atg]

Jun 18, 2022 13:43:46 GMT -5 degen said:

It was clear as day to me that Drake was going to underperform. Same thing before The Weeknd dropped Dawn FM. When you’re oversaturated the correct move is to take a hiatus, not drop even more music. Well I hope he takes this loss humbled.

That is completely wrong. I’ve come to the conclusion that its just the sound that both albums go for that are not connecting with the mainstream and are far from what their usual sounds are. I bet if Drake dropped a straight rap album and Abel dropped another Starboy type of sound, we would be having a completely different conversation and they would do numbers. They both experimented so we really can’t say that they’re starting to underperform starting from this point.

[iHype.]

Why does Rihanna even keep getting brought up in these discussions at this point? 💀

[kierz7]

Jun 18, 2022 14:27:30 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Why does Rihanna even keep getting brought up in these discussions at this point? 💀

Because she’s a legend, she’s an icon and she is the moment. 🌚

She trends on social media, Globally, everyday, and constantly goes viral whilst doing f*ck all, so it’s only natural to mention on here too.

[mms82]

Looks like Sticky, Massive, and Jimmy Cooks are climbing on Apple Music- America has taste, three best songs on the album and the best songs Drake released since Lemon Pepper & Wants & Needs

[JukeboxJacob]

the biggest difference between CLB and H,N: Passion

[mms82]

I feel like the “you a pussssssssy” section of Jimmy Cooks could blow up on TikTok

[iHype.]

Jun 18, 2022 14:54:37 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Jun 18, 2022 14:27:30 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Why does Rihanna even keep getting brought up in these discussions at this point? 💀

Because she’s a legend, she’s an icon and she is the moment. 🌚

She trends on social media, Globally, everyday, and constantly goes viral whilst doing f*ck all, so it’s only natural to mention on here too.

More like because you keep inserting her in the discussions. It’s clear she isn’t releasing music anytime soon. It’s like discussing a Lauryn Hill comeback at this point.

[JukeboxJacob]

Jun 18, 2022 9:40:41 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

Jun 18, 2022 0:14:26 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

what they said

The same Drake whose biggest song is One Dance? When has Drake been known as a hardcore rapper? The fact that Drake stans are trying to act as if he is Nas or something. You are literally twisting into a pretzel trying to put reason into the unreasonable                              

you're ridiculous but I always appreciate your unnecessary dramatic flair

[mms82]

Jun 18, 2022 15:17:36 GMT -5 iHype. said:

Jun 18, 2022 14:54:37 GMT -5 kierz7 said:

Because she’s a legend, she’s an icon and she is the moment. 🌚

She trends on social media, Globally, everyday, and constantly goes viral whilst doing f*ck all, so it’s only natural to mention on here too.

More like because you keep inserting her in the discussions. It’s clear she isn’t releasing music anytime soon. It’s like discussing a Lauryn Hill comeback at this point.

July 15th Lauryn Hill, Kate Bush, and Rihanna finally dropping the collab album to end the charts

[JukeboxJacob]

people are really shouting doom & gloom for Drake b/c his numbers aren't as big as CLB? They're still great streams, especially considering the entire music industry is in a rut, & the GP has been showing a lack of listening to any new music at all

[fridayteenage]

no b/c the numbers are like half his lowest studio album, and possibly below every mixtape since his 1st album dropped.

[thegreatdivine]

Jun 18, 2022 12:08:22 GMT -5 atg said:

Jun 18, 2022 10:54:20 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

I'm not at all mad at it's performance. If Drake wanted to "play it safe," he'd have called it a mixtape. I like that he's marketing it as an album knowing fully well that it won't perform anywhere close to his albums have historically and it gives me hope that he'll try more things on his albums moving forward without caring about the commercial consequences. It's one thing to try and not quite stick the landing but it's another thing to not try at all.

Anyone who wants to see this as a flop totally can because I guess there is some validity to that. Personally, I'm just glad it's an album I can see myself listening to for a really long time.

I wonder how the album would’ve done if he just did a More Life 2 instead, and i mean with the mix of rap, r&b and house elements throughout. That way there’s a little bit of Drake for everyone. Tracks like Passionfruit and Get It Together could be randomly thrown on Honestly, Nevermind and it wouldn’t feel out of place at all. It’s still a good album, but it kind of makes me wanna go back to More Life at times and appreciate what that project has done.

I can see that but I'm glad he didn't go that route. This project is its own thing and it deserves that.

[JukeboxJacob]

Jun 18, 2022 12:32:49 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

It's interesting that Adele, The Weeknd, Post, Kendrick, and Drake are seeing underperforming eras (at least by their own lofty standards). Certainly none of their careers are "over", and their legacies are cemented, but it may signal a changing of the guard. Maybe Bad Bunny will be to the '20s what Drake was to the '10s? Maybe Doja Cat will get half a dozen or more number ones by 2029? It's time we start seeing the new icons of this decade emerge.

A big part of it is the fade of trap rap

[ephelia]

No debuts on Pop callouts this week

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Jun 18, 2022 11:05:59 GMT -5 Groovy said:

I guess I'll be the one who does the radio update today since Baby Yoda Hot100Fan can't do it on weekends

1(=). First Class - Jack Harlow 110.10 (-0.53)
2(=). As It Was - Harry Styles 101.43 (-0.01)
3(=). About Damn Time - Lizzo 87.15 (+1.83)
4(=). Latto & Mariah Carey - Big Energy (Remix) [feat. DJ Khaled] 72.86 (-0.87)
5(=). Dove Cameron - Boyfriend 68.85 (-0.26)
6(=). Glass Animals - Heat Waves 64.12 (-0.88)
7(=). The Kid Laroi & Justin Bieber - Stay 63.66 (-0.35)
8(=). Em Beihold - Numb Little Bug 60.25 (+0.31)
9(=). Justin Bieber - Ghost 57.68 (+0.18)
10(+2). Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 50.38 (+0.95)

15(+1). Morgan Wallen - Wasted on You 44.22 (+0.67)
40(+1). Harry Styles - Late Night Talking 28.20 (+0.87)
51(+4). Nicky Youre & Dazy - Sunroof 22.49 (+1.01)
52(+2). Post Malone - I Like You (A Happier Song) [feat. Doja Cat] 22.36 (+0.73)
-(-). Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God) 8.80 (+1.27)
-(-). Sia - Unstoppable 11.77 (+0.62)

Thanks for posting today's update! I would have also included Luke Combs' The Kind of Love We Make as a debut with 8.55

[NeRD]

What are the chances of As It Was being the Hot 100 YEC #1?

[phieaglesfan712]

Jun 18, 2022 18:23:49 GMT -5 NeRD said:

What are the chances of As It Was being the Hot 100 YEC #1?

0% because Heat Waves and Stay are still on the charts and have twice as many points as AIW more than halfway through the Billboard tracking year. The best AIW can do at this point is #3 on the year end. 

[kimberly]

Jun 17, 2022 13:23:18 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Jun 17, 2022 13:16:08 GMT -5 kimberly said:

I literally quit listening after Track 4 last night so maybe I'll give the rest of it a shot over the weekend. I didn't dislike the beats but Drake's voice and some of the repetition ("Falling Back" anyone?) really didn't work for me.

It might not be for you but I think the album really picks up from track 5 till the end.

"Sticky" is that girl. "Massive" is also a banger. I definitely want to sweat it out to those two.

[phieaglesfan712]

Jun 18, 2022 18:04:46 GMT -5 Baby Yoda Hot100Fan said:

Jun 18, 2022 11:05:59 GMT -5 Groovy said:

I guess I'll be the one who does the radio update today since Baby Yoda Hot100Fan can't do it on weekends

1(=). First Class - Jack Harlow 110.10 (-0.53)
2(=). As It Was - Harry Styles 101.43 (-0.01)
3(=). About Damn Time - Lizzo 87.15 (+1.83)
4(=). Latto & Mariah Carey - Big Energy (Remix) [feat. DJ Khaled] 72.86 (-0.87)
5(=). Dove Cameron - Boyfriend 68.85 (-0.26)
6(=). Glass Animals - Heat Waves 64.12 (-0.88)
7(=). The Kid Laroi & Justin Bieber - Stay 63.66 (-0.35)
8(=). Em Beihold - Numb Little Bug 60.25 (+0.31)
9(=). Justin Bieber - Ghost 57.68 (+0.18)
10(+2). Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 50.38 (+0.95)

15(+1). Morgan Wallen - Wasted on You 44.22 (+0.67)
40(+1). Harry Styles - Late Night Talking 28.20 (+0.87)
51(+4). Nicky Youre & Dazy - Sunroof 22.49 (+1.01)
52(+2). Post Malone - I Like You (A Happier Song) [feat. Doja Cat] 22.36 (+0.73)
-(-). Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God) 8.80 (+1.27)
-(-). Sia - Unstoppable 11.77 (+0.62)

Thanks for posting today's update! I would have also included Luke Combs' The Kind of Love We Make as a debut with 8.55

That LC song is going to #1 next week when the album is released. The only thing that was missing last time (for FAA) was radio, and there’s no song as strong as Positions blocking it this time.

[Deleted]

Jun 17, 2022 1:13:09 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Well we know what'll debut at #1

At this point I'm not even sure he'll get the #1 given the underperformance on the first day, but we'll see.

[rideordie]

Drake is already falling on Apple Music.. by Monday WAit for you is back at no.1

[Darkest Hour]

Jun 18, 2022 19:57:58 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

That LC song is going to #1 next week when the album is released. The only thing that was missing last time (for FAA) was radio, and there’s no song as strong as Positions blocking it this time.

It was never going to #1, but okay.

[phieaglesfan712]

Jun 18, 2022 22:30:29 GMT -5 Darkest Hour said:

Jun 18, 2022 19:57:58 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

That LC song is going to #1 next week when the album is released. The only thing that was missing last time (for FAA) was radio, and there’s no song as strong as Positions blocking it this time.

It was never going to #1, but okay.

FAA/Positions was actually pretty even on sales and streaming. Positions having considerable radio, while FAA having barely any radio, made all the difference in that race.

Despite the lack of radio, FAA still got we’ll over 300 point. If Luke really did 8.55M on radio on the first day, I have huge expectations for this album and a #1 on the Hot 100.

[Darkest Hour]

Jun 18, 2022 22:54:39 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

FAA/Positions was actually pretty even on sales and streaming. Positions having considerable radio, while FAA having barely any radio, made all the difference in that race.

Despite the lack of radio, FAA still got we’ll over 300 point. If Luke really did 8.55M on radio on the first day, I have huge expectations for this album and a #1 on the Hot 100.

I mean The Kind of Love We Make.

[ontopofthis]

Jun 18, 2022 12:32:49 GMT -5 renfield75 said:

It's interesting that Adele, The Weeknd, Post, Kendrick, and Drake are seeing underperforming eras (at least by their own lofty standards). Certainly none of their careers are "over", and their legacies are cemented, but it may signal a changing of the guard. Maybe Bad Bunny will be to the '20s what Drake was to the '10s? Maybe Doja Cat will get half a dozen or more number ones by 2029? It's time we start seeing the new icons of this decade emerge.

It is probably hard to hear, but the younger generation just does not have the artistry or charisma to attain that status. People get there by reaching all generations, and the younger artists’ output is too jejune to achieve that. It is more so that the opposition is stumbling, not that Bad Bunny and Doja Cat are outright winning. Their albums are successful, but they are nowhere near as big as other ones from the artists that you have in your post. And the singles are not exactly huge even though are pretty successful singles. It is almost a best of the worst situation. The biggest reasons for this are people not really listening to airwaves anymore, therefore preventing a monoculture, and people not having any music education classes anymore. I now have a better way of describing it: The younger artists just do not have any musicality, which is present in every other generation of superstars. I do see Doja Cat being the closest to achieving that, but that is because of her having an awesome team to help hone her artistry

[ontopofthis]

Jun 18, 2022 15:18:45 GMT -5 JukeboxJacob said:

Jun 18, 2022 9:40:41 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

The same Drake whose biggest song is One Dance? When has Drake been known as a hardcore rapper? The fact that Drake stans are trying to act as if he is Nas or something. You are literally twisting into a pretzel trying to put reason into the unreasonable                              

you're ridiculous but I always appreciate your unnecessary dramatic flair

Who are you exactly?

[Enigma.]

Music business doesn't reward artists releasing unique and thoughtful pieces of work, so no wonder artists only focus on being successful, especially during covid when live music and tours didn't exist.

I think it's great that "everyone" can get a hit, but if all you aim at is getting hits, where is the memorable storytelling, artistry and things that actually matter in the long run?

That said, there are exceptions of course, like Billie Eilish, who seemed to be completely "unmarketable" but just clicked with audience.