Billboard Hot 100: 08/06/2022

[ephelia]

Happier Than Ever was #28 on HDD's YTD Streams list from the end of June ... it came out last July and you could make an argument that it was a hit with just activity from this year

[Au$tin]

Jul 26, 2022 11:35:01 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

Jul 26, 2022 11:32:44 GMT -5 Au$tin said:

? She got it already. "everything i wanted," "Therefore I Am," and "Happier Than Ever" exist. "TV" and "The 30th" aren't singles, we shouldn't be expecting them to be hits. She's doing just fine.

Happier Than Ever is not a hit.

You're wrong.

Jul 26, 2022 11:35:01 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

You can say that Everything I Wanted is a hit

Right, because it was.

Jul 26, 2022 11:35:01 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

but then that would be inconsistent given that people say that Panini is not and that Lil Nas X's second hit is Montero 

Those people are also wrong.

[phieaglesfan712]

Jul 26, 2022 11:27:57 GMT -5 NeRD said:

With there being a good chance that As It Was returns to #1 for an 11th week next week, do we think it can get to 13, maybe 14 weeks? What's it's competition? I guess maybe Break My Soul during the album release week but I think that's a long shot.

I know a lot of people love Harry on here, but it’s time to move on from AIW. It had a nice run at #1, but it’s beyond time to let it terminate. It hasn’t been #1 in any metric in nearly 2 months. Not to mention, his 2nd single is climbing the pop/radio charts and he’s about to name MSR the 3rd single.

[chanman]

Jul 26, 2022 12:55:21 GMT -5 jayfet said:

Jul 23, 2022 20:00:37 GMT -5 chanman said:

This year is very slow when compared to other years...longevity on the charts seems to be more popular to talk about and criticize at the same time. I have yet to see a breakout star 
2019: LNX,

2020: Roddy Rich,

2021: Olivia Rodrigo,

2022: ?????????????????

it's Kate Bush LMAO

If only the single could top the charts!!

[Mayman]

Jul 26, 2022 10:37:16 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Jul 26, 2022 10:30:21 GMT -5 sheardbeard said:

Anyone think either of Billie’s two new songs will make the Hot 100 this week? Or even Bubbling Under? I know “TV” is outperforming “The 30th”.

TV predicted to be near 50, while The 30th may be in the lower quadrant of the Hot 100:

Can we trust Twitter user "_eulogizeme"?

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Jul 26, 2022 12:55:21 GMT -5 jayfet said:

Jul 23, 2022 20:00:37 GMT -5 chanman said:

This year is very slow when compared to other years...longevity on the charts seems to be more popular to talk about and criticize at the same time. I have yet to see a breakout star 
2019: LNX,

2020: Roddy Rich,

2021: Olivia Rodrigo,

2022: ??

it's Kate Bush LMAO

Actually it's the Madrigal family. #IsabellaForBestNewArtist

[phieaglesfan712]

Jul 26, 2022 13:19:39 GMT -5 Mayman said:

Jul 26, 2022 10:37:16 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

TV predicted to be near 50, while The 30th may be in the lower quadrant of the Hot 100:

Can we trust Twitter user "_eulogizeme"?

It’s too early to tell, but with no predictor out with early predictions yet, this is the best we can do for now. The prediction doesn’t look too bad, especially considering it was made on Saturday.

[jasper0102]

Jul 26, 2022 11:27:57 GMT -5 NeRD said:

With there being a good chance that As It Was returns to #1 for an 11th week next week, do we think it can get to 13, maybe 14 weeks? What's it's competition? I guess maybe Break My Soul during the album release week but I think that's a long shot.

Whether As It Was gets more weeks at number one from here on out, it’s based on the margins, or in other words, whether it has a big enough margin on streaming to overpower the sales and radio margins ADT has over it. That’s probably going to be the fight for the number one for the next couple months or so unless a new challenger shows up or if the double punch of Renaissance and the Break My Soul video lasts more than one week.

[Envoirment]

I am not here for the "Happier Than Ever" slander. It has over 960 million streams on spotify combined and is still top 100 globally and doing over 1 million streams a day on spotify alone. It's well on its way to becoming one of her most streamed songs (in fact I believe it's already her 5th most streamed song when combining both versions on spotify). Its longevity has been amazing and it's going to continue racking up lots of streams and certifications for years to come.

[dragonslair]

Jul 26, 2022 12:59:57 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Jul 26, 2022 11:27:57 GMT -5 NeRD said:

With there being a good chance that As It Was returns to #1 for an 11th week next week, do we think it can get to 13, maybe 14 weeks? What's it's competition? I guess maybe Break My Soul during the album release week but I think that's a long shot.

I know a lot of people love Harry on here, but it’s time to move on from AIW. It had a nice run at #1, but it’s beyond time to let it terminate. It hasn’t been #1 in any metric in nearly 2 months. Not to mention, his 2nd single is climbing the pop/radio charts and he’s about to name MSR the 3rd single.

The Hot 100 is a most consumed chart, not a most consumed in a metric chart.

[atg]

Jul 26, 2022 13:46:52 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

I am not here for the "Happier Than Ever" slander. It has over 960 million streams on spotify combined and is still top 100 globally and doing over 1 million streams a day on spotify alone. It's well on its way to becoming one of her most streamed songs (in fact I believe it's already her 5th most streamed song when combining both versions on spotify). Its longevity has been amazing and it's going to continue racking up lots of streams and certifications for years to come.

So should we also agree that Spotify sleepers like No Role Modelz, Sweater Weather and Die For You are also hits as well despite being them not hitting the top 10 on Billboard? There’s definitely so many different factors as to what can be a hit, and i think streaming makes it easier now for a song to be one.

[iHype.]

That user loves to post takes then double down on them no matter what for the sake of being stubborn and not wanting to correct themselves even after they are objectively proven wrong.

They could’ve clarified they meant Billie didn’t get an all around smash hit that did damage on Hot 100, radio, had a high peak, etc but they decided to claim Happier than Ever just wasn’t a hit period to double down on their point and refuse to correct themselves. 💀

Billie has consistently been an albums artist and her biggest songs (aside from Bad Guy) are all pretty much slow burners that far outlive their peak/run which is obviously why I assume her team was fine with not letting her have a #1 Hot 100 smash hit this time around. That isn’t her forte.

Lizzo and especially Lil Nas are singles artists and having a notable hit is imperative for them as far as their eras doing respectable numbers and getting consumer attention. You can see this with the fact Billie’s album still opened higher than both theirs combined.

[phieaglesfan712]

Jul 26, 2022 15:07:36 GMT -5 dragonslair said:

Jul 26, 2022 12:59:57 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

I know a lot of people love Harry on here, but it’s time to move on from AIW. It had a nice run at #1, but it’s beyond time to let it terminate. It hasn’t been #1 in any metric in nearly 2 months. Not to mention, his 2nd single is climbing the pop/radio charts and he’s about to name MSR the 3rd single.

The Hot 100 is a most consumed chart, not a most consumed in a metric chart.

If this was a true most consumed chart, like the RS 100, RUTH would have at least 3 weeks at #1 by now. I think radio should count, but I think more emphasis should be placed on finishing first in the metrics. RUTH finishing outside of the Top 3 in multiple weeks despite sweeping the consumption metrics (sales and streaming) shows that the Hot 100 formula needs updating.

[kindofbiased]

Jul 26, 2022 15:12:09 GMT -5 atg said:

Jul 26, 2022 13:46:52 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

I am not here for the "Happier Than Ever" slander. It has over 960 million streams on spotify combined and is still top 100 globally and doing over 1 million streams a day on spotify alone. It's well on its way to becoming one of her most streamed songs (in fact I believe it's already her 5th most streamed song when combining both versions on spotify). Its longevity has been amazing and it's going to continue racking up lots of streams and certifications for years to come.

So should we also agree that Spotify sleepers like No Role Modelz, Sweater Weather and Die For You are also hits as well despite being them not hitting the top 10 on Billboard? There’s definitely so many different factors as to what can be a hit, and i think streaming makes it easier now for a song to be one.

Those songs are all definitely hits as well (hell Sweater Weather made the 2014 year end list), they've just had a slightly more unconventional way of becoming a hit

[dragonslair]

Jul 26, 2022 13:46:52 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

I am not here for the "Happier Than Ever" slander. It has over 960 million streams on spotify combined and is still top 100 globally and doing over 1 million streams a day on spotify alone. It's well on its way to becoming one of her most streamed songs (in fact I believe it's already her 5th most streamed song when combining both versions on spotify). Its longevity has been amazing and it's going to continue racking up lots of streams and certifications for years to come.

I'd call HEA a hit. But I'd call most stuff that hits the hot 199 a hit - main exception would be a track that charted for a couple or so weeks because the album was released.

i think though it is important to remember it is a Hot 100 thread  which would mean for some when they say hit or not, they mean in the US, based on Hot 100 performance.  And for some a #15 peak isn't a hit. It's their opinion, and opinions are never wrong.

[dragonslair]

Jul 26, 2022 15:21:59 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Jul 26, 2022 15:07:36 GMT -5 dragonslair said:

The Hot 100 is a most consumed chart, not a most consumed in a metric chart.

If this was a true most consumed chart, like the RS 100, RUTH would have at least 3 weeks at #1 by now. I think radio should count, but I think more emphasis should be placed on finishing first in the metrics. RUTH finishing outside of the Top 3 in multiple weeks despite sweeping the consumption metrics (sales and streaming) shows that the Hot 100 formula needs updating.

RS was a revenue chart, not a consumption chart.  Contrary to popular belief on here, hearing a song is consumption.

[Gary]

Jul 26, 2022 15:21:59 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Jul 26, 2022 15:07:36 GMT -5 dragonslair said:

The Hot 100 is a most consumed chart, not a most consumed in a metric chart.

If this was a true most consumed chart, like the RS 100, RUTH would have at least 3 weeks at #1 by now. I think radio should count, but I think more emphasis should be placed on finishing first in the metrics. RUTH finishing outside of the Top 3 in multiple weeks despite sweeping the consumption metrics (sales and streaming) shows that the Hot 100 formula needs updating.

Abut Damn Time was 8th in streaming
Needed the help of the itunes discount to win the sales title

Yes it is #1 in radio but if you deemphasize radio for one you need to for all

There are 7 songs with more streams so not only was it not #1 in the metric it wasn't even top 5

So sounds like ADT based on this definition doesn't belong at #1 either?

[nathanalbright]

Jul 26, 2022 12:59:57 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Jul 26, 2022 11:27:57 GMT -5 NeRD said:

With there being a good chance that As It Was returns to #1 for an 11th week next week, do we think it can get to 13, maybe 14 weeks? What's it's competition? I guess maybe Break My Soul during the album release week but I think that's a long shot.

I know a lot of people love Harry on here, but it’s time to move on from AIW. It had a nice run at #1, but it’s beyond time to let it terminate. It hasn’t been #1 in any metric in nearly 2 months. Not to mention, his 2nd single is climbing the pop/radio charts and he’s about to name MSR the 3rd single.

What gives you the right to tell anyone else to move on from a song, especially since it's only been on the charts for 16 weeks?

[ontopofthis]

Jul 26, 2022 15:12:09 GMT -5 atg said:

Jul 26, 2022 13:46:52 GMT -5 Envoirment said:

I am not here for the "Happier Than Ever" slander. It has over 960 million streams on spotify combined and is still top 100 globally and doing over 1 million streams a day on spotify alone. It's well on its way to becoming one of her most streamed songs (in fact I believe it's already her 5th most streamed song when combining both versions on spotify). Its longevity has been amazing and it's going to continue racking up lots of streams and certifications for years to come.

So should we also agree that Spotify sleepers like No Role Modelz, Sweater Weather and Die For You are also hits as well despite being them not hitting the top 10 on Billboard? There’s definitely so many different factors as to what can be a hit, and i think streaming makes it easier now for a song to be one.

No Role Modelz has a diamond certification, the real signifier of what a hit is. So yeah, that is a hit. I am not even using Billboard as a measure of what is a hit since their charts are not an accurate reflection of what the general public is listening to to be honest. You have a song called Numb Little Bug that is sitting in the top twenty of Billboard despite not being on a streaming chart anywhere. I guarantee you that if you play the song to people on the street, ten out of ten people are not going to recognize that song. Billboard is wholly inaccurate because of imaginary "airplay impressions" they use, and that is why the ratings for their awards show are an embarrassment every year. People are not paying attention to Billboard to see what is a hit  

[ontopofthis]

Jul 26, 2022 15:16:16 GMT -5 iHype. said:

That user loves to post takes then double down on them no matter what for the sake of being stubborn and not wanting to correct themselves even after they are objectively proven wrong.

They could’ve clarified they meant Billie didn’t get an all around smash hit that did damage on Hot 100, radio, had a high peak, etc but they decided to claim Happier than Ever just wasn’t a hit period to double down on their point and refuse to correct themselves. 💀

Billie has consistently been an albums artist and her biggest songs (aside from Bad Guy) are all pretty much slow burners that far outlive their peak/run which is obviously why I assume her team was fine with not letting her have a #1 Hot 100 smash hit this time around. That isn’t her forte.

Lizzo and especially Lil Nas are singles artists and having a notable hit is imperative for them as far as their eras doing respectable numbers and getting consumer attention. You can see this with the fact Billie’s album still opened higher than both theirs combined.

Billie Eilish's newest album ain't perform the greatest for you to be hyping her up as some album artist either. You also need to be the last one to say anything when you have stated that You Right and Heartless are not hits. They have way better certifications than Happier Than Ever, so that is what I mean about people on here being hypocrites. I am aware that you hate The Weeknd because he used to beat you up for your lunch money, but you still need to have objectivity                  

[joshtheking]

Jul 26, 2022 16:41:52 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

Jul 26, 2022 15:16:16 GMT -5 iHype. said:

That user loves to post takes then double down on them no matter what for the sake of being stubborn and not wanting to correct themselves even after they are objectively proven wrong.

They could’ve clarified they meant Billie didn’t get an all around smash hit that did damage on Hot 100, radio, had a high peak, etc but they decided to claim Happier than Ever just wasn’t a hit period to double down on their point and refuse to correct themselves. 💀

Billie has consistently been an albums artist and her biggest songs (aside from Bad Guy) are all pretty much slow burners that far outlive their peak/run which is obviously why I assume her team was fine with not letting her have a #1 Hot 100 smash hit this time around. That isn’t her forte.

Lizzo and especially Lil Nas are singles artists and having a notable hit is imperative for them as far as their eras doing respectable numbers and getting consumer attention. You can see this with the fact Billie’s album still opened higher than both theirs combined.

Billie Eilish's newest album ain't perform the greatest for you to be hyping her up as some album artist either. You also need to be the last one to say anything when you have stated You Right and Heartless are not hits. They have way better certifications than Happier Than Ever, so that is what I mean about people on here being hypocrites. I am aware that you hate The Weeknd because he used to beat you up for your lunch money, but you still need to have objectivity   

LMAO what are you on about 😭😭😭

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2022 » / « 07 » / « 26 »

1(=) Lizzo - About Damn Time 118.07(+0.32)
2(=) Harry Styles - As It Was 97.64(-0.17)
3(=) Jack Harlow - First Class 92.50(-1.31)
4(=) Beyoncé - BREAK MY SOUL 71.29(+0.86)
5(=) Em Beihold - Numb Little Bug 69.54(-0.04)
6(=) Harry Styles - Late Night Talking 66.67(+1.01)
7(=) Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 61.56(-0.16)
8(=) Latto - Big Energy 61.20(-0.17)
9(+1) Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God) 59.44(+1.47)

10(-1) The Kid Laroi & Justin Bieber - Stay 57.97(-0.39)

11(=) Nicky Youre & Dazy - Sunroof 57.77(+1.00)

14(=) Future - WAIT FOR U (feat. Drake & Tems) 49.90(+0.78)

25(=) Jake Owen - Best Thing Since Backroads 34.06(+0.90)

71(+9) OneRepublic - I Ain't Worried 15.40(+1.24)

-(-) Daddy Yankee - Remix 8.03(+0.91)

-(-) Shooter Ledo X Jon Z X Jadakis - Pa Que Sude 1.47(+0.77) +

[Groovy]

It’s funny how that user doesn’t want to answer anyone’s question but instead chooses to ignore and antagonize people like usual.

[abelone]

Jul 26, 2022 16:41:52 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

Jul 26, 2022 15:16:16 GMT -5 iHype. said:

That user loves to post takes then double down on them no matter what for the sake of being stubborn and not wanting to correct themselves even after they are objectively proven wrong.

They could’ve clarified they meant Billie didn’t get an all around smash hit that did damage on Hot 100, radio, had a high peak, etc but they decided to claim Happier than Ever just wasn’t a hit period to double down on their point and refuse to correct themselves. 💀

Billie has consistently been an albums artist and her biggest songs (aside from Bad Guy) are all pretty much slow burners that far outlive their peak/run which is obviously why I assume her team was fine with not letting her have a #1 Hot 100 smash hit this time around. That isn’t her forte.

Lizzo and especially Lil Nas are singles artists and having a notable hit is imperative for them as far as their eras doing respectable numbers and getting consumer attention. You can see this with the fact Billie’s album still opened higher than both theirs combined.

Billie Eilish's newest album ain't perform the greatest for you to be hyping her up as some album artist either. You also need to be the last one to say anything when you have stated You Right and Heartless are not hits. They have way better certifications than Happier Than Ever, so that is what I mean about people on here being hypocrites. I am aware that you hate The Weeknd because he used to beat you up for your lunch money, but you still need to have objectivity   

How can someone even think You Right and Heartless are not hits lmaoo. You Right made two year-ends and has almost 500M streams on spotify + 200M on youtube + top 50 year-end. And Heartless has 550M streams on spotify + 200M on youtube + 3x platinum + top 30 year-end. Crazy.

[iHype.]

Jul 26, 2022 16:41:52 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

You also need to be the last one to say anything when you have stated You Right and Heartless are not hits. They have way better certifications than Happier Than Ever, so that is what I mean about people on here being hypocrites. I am aware that you hate The Weeknd because he used to beat you up for your lunch money, but you still need to have objectivity   

Provide a link to where this was stated.

[otaviohmg]

I don't if someone posted about the early predictions because the forum is buggy again but something very strange is happening. this country singer (that i haven't known who he was after I checked Wikipedia lol) released a song and apparently got many copies sold for making a top 25-10 debut

[dragonslair]

Jul 26, 2022 16:33:21 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

Jul 26, 2022 15:12:09 GMT -5 atg said:

So should we also agree that Spotify sleepers like No Role Modelz, Sweater Weather and Die For You are also hits as well despite being them not hitting the top 10 on Billboard? There’s definitely so many different factors as to what can be a hit, and i think streaming makes it easier now for a song to be one.

No Role Modelz has a diamond certification, the real signifier of what a hit is. So yeah, that is a hit. I am not even using Billboard as a measure of what is a hit since their charts are not an accurate reflection of what the general public is listening to to be honest. You have a song called Numb Little Bug that is sitting in the top twenty of Billboard despite not being on a streaming chart anywhere. I guarantee you that if you play the song to people on the street, ten out of ten people are not going to recognize that song. Billboard is wholly inaccurate because of imaginary "airplay impressions" they use, and that is why the ratings for their awards show are an embarrassment every year. People are not paying attention to Billboard to see what is a hit  

But it's a Billboard Hot 100 thread, not a general music thread...

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

Jul 26, 2022 15:21:59 GMT -5 phieaglesfan712 said:

Jul 26, 2022 15:07:36 GMT -5 dragonslair said:

The Hot 100 is a most consumed chart, not a most consumed in a metric chart.

If this was a true most consumed chart, like the RS 100, RUTH would have at least 3 weeks at #1 by now. I think radio should count, but I think more emphasis should be placed on finishing first in the metrics. RUTH finishing outside of the Top 3 in multiple weeks despite sweeping the consumption metrics (sales and streaming) shows that the Hot 100 formula needs updating.

We know. We all know. Repeating it isn’t going to make anyone know what you think more than we already do. Everybody knows.

[dragonslair]

Far more of the average general public is going to recognize a radio driven hit than a streaming driven hit.

[Mayman]

Jul 26, 2022 16:41:52 GMT -5 ontopofthis said:

Jul 26, 2022 15:16:16 GMT -5 iHype. said:

That user loves to post takes then double down on them no matter what for the sake of being stubborn and not wanting to correct themselves even after they are objectively proven wrong.

They could’ve clarified they meant Billie didn’t get an all around smash hit that did damage on Hot 100, radio, had a high peak, etc but they decided to claim Happier than Ever just wasn’t a hit period to double down on their point and refuse to correct themselves. 💀

Billie has consistently been an albums artist and her biggest songs (aside from Bad Guy) are all pretty much slow burners that far outlive their peak/run which is obviously why I assume her team was fine with not letting her have a #1 Hot 100 smash hit this time around. That isn’t her forte.

Lizzo and especially Lil Nas are singles artists and having a notable hit is imperative for them as far as their eras doing respectable numbers and getting consumer attention. You can see this with the fact Billie’s album still opened higher than both theirs combined.

Billie Eilish's newest album ain't perform the greatest for you to be hyping her up as some album artist either. You also need to be the last one to say anything when you have stated You Right and Heartless are not hits. They have way better certifications than Happier Than Ever, so that is what I mean about people on here being hypocrites. I am aware that you hate The Weeknd because he used to beat you up for your lunch money, but you still need to have objectivity   

Happier Than Ever is eligible for 3x platinum already, and it's still performing decently on streaming.