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Post by lurker2 on Jul 26, 2022 18:39:53 GMT -5
Far more of the average general public is going to recognize a radio driven hit than a streaming driven hit. I'm somewhat skeptical of this - no one I know listens to radio. And when music discourse happens, it seems like it follows more with streaming hits than radio hits (like, more people talking about RUTH than ADT right now) - at least, on social media. Is it a demographic thing - do a lot less old people stream than I assume? |
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Post by dragonslair on Jul 26, 2022 18:42:23 GMT -5
Is Bam Bam a hit?
On that note, I gotta go and meet an editing deadline , so have fun lol
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Post by dragonslair on Jul 26, 2022 18:44:52 GMT -5
Far more of the average general public is going to recognize a radio driven hit than a streaming driven hit. I'm somewhat skeptical of this - no one I know listens to radio. And when music discourse happens, it seems like it follows more with streaming hits than radio hits (like, more people talking about RUTH than ADT right now) - at least, on social media. Is it a demographic thing - do a lot less old people stream than I assume? You post on a music chart forum, I'd say you are pretty far from the average person on the street. :) |
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Post by GW on Jul 26, 2022 18:53:07 GMT -5
Far more of the average general public is going to recognize a radio driven hit than a streaming driven hit. I'm somewhat skeptical of this - no one I know listens to radio. And when music discourse happens, it seems like it follows more with streaming hits than radio hits (like, more people talking about RUTH than ADT right now) - at least, on social media. Is it a demographic thing - do a lot less old people stream than I assume? I'd bet the majority of the population still listens to the radio while in the car. It's just convenient and includes more than just music. It's also habitual, especially for those of us who grew up with radio as the main source of music. I'm not seeking out new music on radio, but I enjoy the familiarity of it. And as I get older, advertisements have become pretty useful tbh. I don't listen to radio anywhere but in the car for the most part, and it's never for too long at a time. |
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Post by nathanalbright on Jul 26, 2022 18:56:35 GMT -5
Far more of the average general public is going to recognize a radio driven hit than a streaming driven hit. I'm somewhat skeptical of this - no one I know listens to radio. And when music discourse happens, it seems like it follows more with streaming hits than radio hits (like, more people talking about RUTH than ADT right now) - at least, on social media. Is it a demographic thing - do a lot less old people stream than I assume? I listen to radio whenever I'm driving, so you know at least someone who does. And I also stream Numb Little Bug so there. |
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Post by rainygirl on Jul 26, 2022 19:01:51 GMT -5
I'm somewhat skeptical of this - no one I know listens to radio. And when music discourse happens, it seems like it follows more with streaming hits than radio hits (like, more people talking about RUTH than ADT right now) - at least, on social media. Is it a demographic thing - do a lot less old people stream than I assume? I listen to radio whenever I'm driving, so you know at least someone who does. And I also stream Numb Little Bug so there. Same here |
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Post by nathanalbright on Jul 26, 2022 19:03:17 GMT -5
Is Bam Bam a hit? On that note, I gotta go and meet an editing deadline , so have fun lol It peaked just outside the top twenty, is poised to hit the YE even in a weak year like this one is shaping up to, so yes, I would consider it a hit. I don't think it's a massive hit by any means, but it certainly checks the boxes to be at least a "moderate hit" as a "YE hit." |
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Post by kimberly on Jul 26, 2022 19:10:55 GMT -5
I don't if someone posted about the early predictions because the forum is buggy again but something very strange is happening. this country singer (that i haven't known who he was after I checked Wikipedia lol) released a song and apparently got many copies sold for making a top 25-10 debut it's just another stupid right-wing #MAGA song lol we've seen this happen several times over the last few years. hopefully it has a chart run similar to Tom MacDonald and Aaron Lewis songs at best and doesn't stain this pretty solid Top 10. EDIT: this is the song btw. don't even give it a stream |
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Post by mms82 on Jul 26, 2022 19:26:02 GMT -5
I don't if someone posted about the early predictions because the forum is buggy again but something very strange is happening. this country singer (that i haven't known who he was after I checked Wikipedia lol) released a song and apparently got many copies sold for making a top 25-10 debut it's just another stupid right-wing #MAGA song lol we've seen this happen several times over the last few years. hopefully it has a chart run similar to Tom MacDonald and Aaron Lewis songs at best and doesn't stain this pretty solid Top 10. EDIT: this is the song btw. don't even give it a stream Politics and content of the song aside - John Rich isn’t a nobody at all. He has a number one Billboard crossover hit with Lonestar (Amazed) and he’s half of the band who made Save a Horse (Ride a Cowboy) which is probably the most played country song at frat parties of non country music listeners across America and has long cultural relevance |
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Post by atg on Jul 26, 2022 19:41:34 GMT -5
I don't think it's appreciated enough the past 12 months Tems has had Top 10 hit with Essence Number one single thanks to being sampled Working with Drake by being on Certified Lover Boy now being on the Black Panther 2 soundtrack and she'll be on Renaissance this Friday Other acts have had a better year, no doubt, but she's the breakout act of this year I agree. While she’s not completely smashing with a multi week #1 with close to record breaking numbers and cultural impact like all of the breakout acts of the past 3 years, all of these factors you mentioned have really nice strengths on their own. It also reminds us that not everything or everyone has to always be a big smash for them to leave an impact on a certain year or time period. |
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Post by lazer on Jul 26, 2022 19:54:03 GMT -5
HTE is a hit, nuff said.
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Post by otaviohmg on Jul 26, 2022 20:26:26 GMT -5
I don't if someone posted about the early predictions because the forum is buggy again but something very strange is happening. this country singer (that i haven't known who he was after I checked Wikipedia lol) released a song and apparently got many copies sold for making a top 25-10 debut it's just another stupid right-wing #MAGA song lol we've seen this happen several times over the last few years. hopefully it has a chart run similar to Tom MacDonald and Aaron Lewis songs at best and doesn't stain this pretty solid Top 10. EDIT: this is the song btw. don't even give it a stream omg these lyrics ugh so gross |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 26, 2022 20:42:01 GMT -5
Far more of the average general public is going to recognize a radio driven hit than a streaming driven hit. I'm somewhat skeptical of this - no one I know listens to radio. And when music discourse happens, it seems like it follows more with streaming hits than radio hits (like, more people talking about RUTH than ADT right now) - at least, on social media. Is it a demographic thing - do a lot less old people stream than I assume? Idk. Considering radio’s avoidance of playing too many songs that its listeners might be unfamiliar with, I’d agree that people are more likely to recognize a radio hit than streaming hit. |
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Post by ontopofthis on Jul 26, 2022 23:19:31 GMT -5
You also need to be the last one to say anything when you have stated You Right and Heartless are not hits. They have way better certifications than Happier Than Ever, so that is what I mean about people on here being hypocrites. I am aware that you hate The Weeknd because he used to beat you up for your lunch money, but you still need to have objectivity Provide a link to where this was stated. Yeah, no. You can spend your time searching for that. It is probably around the time that Dawn FM came out because that is when you were just stating a bunch of nonsense. Just start with the threads around then |
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Post by ontopofthis on Jul 26, 2022 23:22:34 GMT -5
No Role Modelz has a diamond certification, the real signifier of what a hit is. So yeah, that is a hit. I am not even using Billboard as a measure of what is a hit since their charts are not an accurate reflection of what the general public is listening to to be honest. You have a song called Numb Little Bug that is sitting in the top twenty of Billboard despite not being on a streaming chart anywhere. I guarantee you that if you play the song to people on the street, ten out of ten people are not going to recognize that song. Billboard is wholly inaccurate because of imaginary "airplay impressions" they use, and that is why the ratings for their awards show are an embarrassment every year. People are not paying attention to Billboard to see what is a hit But it's a Billboard Hot 100 thread, not a general music thread... Then, why are people bringing up European Spotify numbers? I just stated that the song is not a hit, and Billboard is not the ultimate assessment of that. It is even more true when 99% of the population is not even paying attention to Billboard. Even if you use Billboard as your basis, its chart run there is not the greatest |
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Post by iHype. on Jul 26, 2022 23:53:39 GMT -5
Provide a link to where this was stated. Yeah, no. You can spend your time searching for that. It is probably around the time that Dawn FM came out because that is when you were just stating a bunch of nonsense. Just start with the threads around then How would I search for something that never was said?  You for some reason start resorting to making fake statements when you get angry (ala the creepy Weeknd fan-fiction you inserted at the end of that same post being further proof) - Happier Than Ever was a HIT and some will have to deal. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jul 27, 2022 4:10:32 GMT -5
Is there a rule in Pulse against making up false statements about others?
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Post by M5AGTS on Jul 27, 2022 4:19:17 GMT -5
Is there a rule in Pulse against making up false statements about others? Honestly, there should just be a rule against pointless arguments like this in the hot 100 threads. Take that shit somewhere else. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jul 27, 2022 4:51:58 GMT -5
Is there a rule in Pulse against making up false statements about others? Honestly, there should just be a rule against pointless arguments like this in the hot 100 threads. Take that s**t somewhere else. "pointless arguments" are a lot less subjective because what is or isn't pointless differs for everyone, even amongst mods. Making false accusations that people said this or that, that's a lot more provable however |
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 27, 2022 8:08:33 GMT -5
We won! Stay is finally knocked out of the Top 10.
10(+1) Nicky Youre & Dazy - Sunroof 59.18 (+1.41)
11(-1) The Kid Laroi & Justin Bieber - Stay 57.69 (-0.28)
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Post by nathanalbright on Jul 27, 2022 8:37:52 GMT -5
Who is this mysterious we that you keep talking about?
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Post by jasper0102 on Jul 27, 2022 8:46:24 GMT -5
^probably because we should all be happy that Stay is out of the kworb radio top 10 for the first time in probably a year, even if Sunroof isn't a particularly good replacement.
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Post by phieaglesfan712 on Jul 27, 2022 9:35:21 GMT -5
The only real upset for #1 on the Hot 100 this year so far is Wait For U on its debut week beating out As It Was, when AIW was in Week 5 and at its peak. Harry’s team didn’t realize they were getting beat until it was too late, as evidenced by them putting out a limited edition digital download with alternative cover on Thursday to try to hold on to #1.
You could make the case for WDTAB beating out EOM, on what would have been EOM’s 11th week at #1, but EOM had been declining for weeks and far past its peak by that point.
Wait For U beating AIW is something I didn’t see coming, well at least until after the tracking week was over.
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Post by imbondz on Jul 27, 2022 10:29:02 GMT -5
Anyone think Jax could have a hit or debut on the hot 100 with Victorias Secret? It’s blowing up on TikTok and it’s a very clever song, currently #3 on iTunes. Cheering for her cuz she’s an excellent songwriter and has been trying to have a hit for a while.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 27, 2022 10:33:46 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2022 » / « 07 » / « 27 »
1(=) Lizzo - About Damn Time 118.26(+0.19)
2(=) Harry Styles - As It Was 97.56(-0.09)
3(=) Jack Harlow - First Class 91.51(-0.99)
4(=) Beyoncé - BREAK MY SOUL 71.72(+0.43)
5(=) Em Beihold - Numb Little Bug 69.50(-0.05)
6(=) Harry Styles - Late Night Talking 67.80(+1.14) +
7(=) Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 61.54(-0.02)
8(=) Latto - Big Energy 61.20(-0.00) -
9(=) Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal with God) 60.84(+1.40)
10(+1) Nicky Youre & Dazy - Sunroof 59.18(+1.41)
17(=) Post Malone - I Like You (A Happier Song) [feat. Doja Cat] 45.13(+0.73)
24(+1) Jake Owen - Best Thing Since Backroads 35.08(+1.02)
63(=) Cole Swindell - She Had Me At Heads Carolina 18.12(+0.65) 64(=) Charlie Puth & Jung Kook - Left and Right 17.97(+0.61)
66(+5) OneRepublic - I Ain't Worried 16.74(+1.34)
-(-) Doja Cat - Vegas (From the Original Motion Picture Soundtrack ELVIS) 9.58(+0.66)
-(-) Morgan Wallen - You Proof 7.87(+0.63)
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jul 27, 2022 11:33:39 GMT -5
US Spotify - 07/26/22
1(=) Steve Lacy - Bad Habit 1,571,294 (+44,580)
2(=) Kate Bush - Running Up That Hill (A Deal With God) 1,180,289 (+4,421)
3(=) Harry Styles - As It Was 1,084,574 (+11,571)
4(+1) Bad Bunny, Chencho Corleone - Me Porto Bonito 966,909 (+16,212)
5(-1) Joji - Glimpse of Us 960,731 (-1,100)
6(=) Drake, 21 Savage - Jimmy Cooks 930,651 (+30,502)
7(=) Bad Bunny - Tití Me Preguntó 838,843 (+9,658)
8(=) Post Malone, Doja Cat - I Like You (A Happier Song) 738,277 (+37,381)
9(=) Lizzo - About Damn Time 668,634 (+5,366)
10(=) Doja Cat - Vegas 666,587 (+9,025)
Others:
11(+1) Glass Animals - Heat Waves 653,631 (+4,646)
12(-1) OneRepublic - I Ain't Worried 649,232 (-233)
13(=) Harry Styles - Late Night Talking 632,027 (+9,881)
14(=) Future, Drake, Tems - WAIT FOR U 630,827 (+16,529)
15(=) Jack Harlow - First Class 608,064 (+10,990)
16(+2) Bad Bunny - Efecto 574,446 (+17,265)
17(-1) Morgan Wallen - You Proof 573,006 (+5,892)
18(-1) Billie Eilish - TV 559,163 (+1,483)
19(=) Yung Gravy - Betty (Get Money) 551,178 (+5,373)
20(=) Nicky Youre, dazy - Sunroof 539,438 (+4,789)
21(=) Bad Bunny - Moscow Mule 524,319 (+7,928)
22(=) The Weeknd - Die For You 509,788 (+11,817)
23(=) Metallica - Master of Puppets 497,962 (+4,652)
24(+1) Bad Bunny, Bomba Estéreo - Ojitos Lindos 483,831 (+14,321)
25(-1) Bailey Zimmerman - Rock and A Hard Place 478,995 (+4,212)
27(-1) Mac Miller, The Temper Trap - Love Lost 456,365 (-5,009)
28(+7) Bizarap, Quevedo - Quevedo: Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 52 448,578 (+31,242)
29(=) J. Cole - No Role Modelz 447,799 (+13,623)
30(+2) Baby Keem - HONEST 447,259 (+19,653)
31(+2) Bad Bunny, Rauw Alejandro - Party 439,822 (+12,419)
33(-3) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 437,402 (+3,539)
34(-6) Billie Eilish - The 30th 422,436 (-13,877)
35(-1) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 417,569 (-2,758)
36(=) Luke Combs - The Kind of Love We Make 414,334 (+4,891)
37(=) Bad Bunny - Después de la Playa 410,392 (+3,469)
39(-1) Morgan Wallen - Wasted On You 399,714 (+3,708)
40(+1) KAROL G - PROVENZA 398,579 (+7,380)
43(=) Stephen Sanchez - Until I Found You 380,343 (+1,916)
44(+2) Post Malone, Roddy Ricch - Cooped Up 376,373 (+12,400)
45(=) Pharrell Williams, 21 Savage, Tyler, The Creator - Cash In Cash Out 376,110 (+10,177)
46(+1) Future - PUFFIN ON ZOOTIEZ 372,724 (+15,506)
47(+6) Beyoncé - BREAK MY SOUL 366,681 (+19,267)
48(-4) Tears for Fears - Everybody Wants to Rule the World 366,187 (-1,647)
50(-1) Bad Bunny, Jhay Cortez - Tarot 361,370 (+7,077)
54(-3) Charlie Puth, Jung Kook - Left and Right 345,564 (-4,888)
57(-7) Russ, Ed Sheeran - Are You Entertained 334,989 (-19,031)
59(+2) Drake - Sticky 331,869 (+10,315)
61(+5) The Weeknd, Lana Del Rey - Stargirl Interlude 326,451 (+13,116)
62(-4) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 325,153 (-4,514)
66(-2) Cole Swindell - She Had Me At Heads Carolina 318,749 (+4,669)
69(-1) Joji - SLOW DANCING IN THE DARK 314,266 (+2,252)
78(+3) Bad Bunny, Tony Dize - La Corriente 296,641 (+6,209)
80(-1) WILLOW - Wait a Minute! 296,298 (+918)
90(-1) Taylor Swift - Don't Blame Me 286,586 (+5,098)
91(+4) Bad Bunny - Un Ratito 283,163 (+7,503)
92(+2) Latto - Big Energy 282,577 (+5,135)
95(-9) AJR - World's Smallest Violin 280,209 (-5,042)
96(-40) Megan Thee Stallion, Future - Pressurelicious 279,458 (-54,171)
98(+2) Sleepy Hallow, 347aidan - Die Young 274,830 (+1,971)
99(+49) Central Cee - Doja 274,149 (+35,847)
102(+23) Quavo, Takeoff - HOTEL LOBBY (Unc & Phew) 273,537 (+21,529)
104(=) Drake - Massive 273,158 (+2,432)
105(-28) Lil Uzi Vert - FOR FUN 272,177 (-25,341)
112(+2) The Weeknd, Gesaffelstein - I Was Never There 266,398 (+5,691)
114(-4) Tyler Hubbard - 5 Foot 9 265,027 (+377)
115(-2) Cigarettes After Sex - Apocalypse 264,445 (+1,490)
116(+7) Cardi B, Kanye West, Lil Durk - Hot Shit 263,057-253,285 (+9,772)
118(-2) Ruth B. - Dandelions 261,781 (+3,320)
119(-2) Elley Duhé - MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT 261,663 (+3,224)
120(-29) Calvin Harris, Justin Timberlake, Halsey, Pharrell Williams - Stay With Me 260,295 (-20,957)
122(-2) Morgan Wallen - Thought You Should Know 259,054 (+2,260)
136(-2) Mr.Kitty - After Dark 248,128 (+1,607)
137(-6) ERNEST, Morgan Wallen - Flower Shops 247,506 (-1,133)
141(=) Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer 245,494 (+5,007)
143(+14) Marshmello, Khalid - Numb 244,270 (+9,474)
146(-4) $uicideboy$ - Antarctica 243,050 (+3,046)
150(+18) Lil Baby - Freestyle 242,054 (+17,411)
156(-4) Nate Smith - Whiskey On You 238,567 (+2,699)
159(-10) Conan Gray - Memories 235,980 (-2,216)
161(-2) Jon Pardi - Last Night Lonely 234,405 (+1,803)
175(+10) The Kid LAROI - Thousand Miles 222,802 (+6,675)
177(+2) Bailey Zimmerman - Fall in Love 222,565 (+2,974)
179(-4) Kane Brown - Like I Love Country Music 222,096 (+763)
181(+1) Jordan Davis - What My World Spins Around 221,286 (+3,784)
185(re-entry) Metallica - Enter Sandman 216,993
197(-54) Lil Uzi Vert - CIGARETTE 213,020 (-26,934)
198(re-entry) Doja Cat - Get Into It (Yuh) 212,709
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Post by big2000 on Jul 27, 2022 11:40:40 GMT -5
Bad Habit is starting to gain a bit of traction on radio, so that should help it in the long run.
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Post by M5AGTS on Jul 27, 2022 11:52:02 GMT -5
^probably because we should all be happy that Stay is out of the kworb radio top 10 for the first time in probably a year, even if Sunroof isn't a particularly good replacement. See, I love Sunroof, so it's definitely a win for me. I think Stay is a great song, but it is definitely time for it to go. |
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Jul 27, 2022 12:08:40 GMT -5
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Post by nathanalbright on Jul 27, 2022 12:43:15 GMT -5
Likelihood of an album bomb?
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