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Post by 3chords on Oct 31, 2022 13:21:45 GMT -5
How’s this faring so far? I can’t tell.
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Post by zdm1998 on Oct 31, 2022 13:39:41 GMT -5
How’s this faring so far? I can’t tell. Still pretty sluggish. Radio PD's are probably waiting to see how early testing comes back before spinning it more, like what happened with Strange and What He Didn't Do.
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Post by blueguitar on Oct 31, 2022 14:00:09 GMT -5
She just teased she has no tricks, but has a "treat" on Friday. New single?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2022 19:43:41 GMT -5
Still not back on the chart again this week on Billboard.. Not sure if they should stick with this. It may end up like Miranda's KOTF
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Oct 31, 2022 20:01:56 GMT -5
Still not back on the chart again this week on Billboard.. Not sure if they should stick with this. It may end up like Miranda's KOTF Well, I’m not sure if we should count out this one just yet. And, Strange is probably a better comparison than KOTF. It did not enter Billboard for a while but eventually it did, and it will be Top 40 soon. The same could happen with this one, especially since Circles and Cowboy had similar chart run/performance as well.
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Post by zdm1998 on Oct 31, 2022 20:07:17 GMT -5
Also important to note they simply just can’t pivot to another single like Kelsea pivoted to hole in the bottle when the other girl didn’t work. This is her best shot at something that will work at radio. Unless she has something completely new that isn’t on Humble Quest.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Oct 31, 2022 22:04:40 GMT -5
She just doesn't have a lot of momentum right now, but like zdm1998 said, this is still her best bet at another hit off this record, so it's too early to count it out yet imo. This is just how the country charts move for most artists these days.
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Post by SHOOTER on Nov 2, 2022 18:22:07 GMT -5
Maybe this will revive interest…
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 2, 2022 19:24:56 GMT -5
It's also entirely possible some stations are holding her support for trans rights against her.
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 2, 2022 19:29:16 GMT -5
It's also entirely possible some stations are holding her support for trans rights against her. I would like to think given the fact radio has supported her in the past that her being pro trans right isn't why some stations are playing this song. She has been pretty openly liberal for a long while now.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 2, 2022 19:38:29 GMT -5
It's also entirely possible some stations are holding her support for trans rights against her. I would like to think given the fact radio has supported her in the past that her being pro trans right isn't why some stations are playing this song. She has been pretty openly liberal for a long while now. Yeah but now there was a specific stance/incident, and this was her first single since it happened. I'd love to think it wouldn't have an impact, but this is the country industry. When you consider how people at Aldean's concert were booing Morris when he said her name, it's at least possible that Morris standing up for trans rights is having a negative impact on her appeal within country music.
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Post by jab820 on Nov 2, 2022 21:02:52 GMT -5
It would not be shocking at all if PDs try to pull her airplay because of the Aldean debacle, but that can't, on its own, explain this song's performance. First, it's way too early to draw a single conclusion. But let's not forget the lead from this album was underwhelming and followed her lowest charting single ever. Her momentum is just down, and that's okay.
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 2, 2022 21:11:15 GMT -5
It would not be shocking at all if PDs try to pull her airplay because of the Aldean debacle, but that can't, on its own, explain this song's performance. First, it's way too early to draw a single conclusion. But let's not forget the lead from this album was underwhelming and followed her lowest charting single ever. Her momentum is just down, and that's okay. To be fair in between "To Hell & Back" and "Circles" she had the duet with Ryan Hurd that was a huge success as well. Technically it was a Ryan Hurd single but I maintain that led to a solid amount of momentum for Maren heading into this era and radio took that song because it was connecting well and a good placeover single for Maren Morris in between eras. Also for as underwhelming the lead single was, it still made Top 10 on radio the Hot Country Songs chart and nearly made the Top 50 on the Hot 100 ("Circles Around This Town"). Not as great as "Girl" but still a solid lead single. I do think how crowded the charts are right now and the fact that this song has no buzz in of itself is why it's not doing much right now, but "I Can't Love You Anymore" has only been at radio a little over a month so there is still plenty of time for this.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 2, 2022 22:43:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if the controversy around her online spat with the Aldeans may have caused some hesitancy from some radio PDs, but it's still way too early to tell what kind of impact that's had, because Maren was already experiencing a slump before that happened. I honestly think there's a good chance she's already peaked commercially, because this third album era -- even IF this single takes off and becomes a modest hit -- has definitely been a derailment to her building momentum. "To Hell & Back" kinda slashed the tires on what could've been a really big superstar-making era for her coming off "The Bones," and while the duet with Ryan Hurd helped restore some goodwill at radio, "Circles" just didn't do what a lead-off single should have for as much anticipation was leading into it and Humble Quest by all accounts has been a commercial bomb. There's so few 'spots' so to speak for female artists at the format, and Maren having even a brief stumble could be costly for her long-term prospects, though with her out-spokenness on social media lately, she might very well segue into the Kacey Musgraves lane of not really caring if the country industry props her up or not in the future.
Way too early to tell what the future holds and there's no rhyme or reason with things sometimes (Gretchen Wilson's huge flameout after a huge debut era, Walker Hayes' randomly blowing up and having one of the biggest country hits of all-time after a string of flops, etc.), but I'm currently not the most optimistic about Maren Morris going forward. She's gonna need to bounce back HARD with album #4. Even her attempt at making "The Middle 2.0" with Zedd was a flop that really didn't do anything for her in a time where she needed some buzz.
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Post by zdm1998 on Nov 3, 2022 7:27:53 GMT -5
^ Agree with all of this.
I don't think her outspokenness has gotten her blacklisted, but may have made some PDs more hesitant when they would normally jump on her stuff. She really lost her footing after "The Bones." I really can't place all the blame on "To Hell & Back" causing all of this, because I do think if she would have bounced back with a more impactful lead single PDs would've simply forgot "To Hell & Back" ever happened. They should ride this one up the chart and see how it goes, top 20 would be a huge success, then come back with something more undeniable. However, next era, she NEEDS, to find another producer. Greg might work in the pop world, but the only thing he's made for Maren that sounds original or organic is "The Bones" everything else feels bland. While I'm concerned, I'm not completely worried about her. I feel like it's all going to come down to next era to see how her long term prospects are.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Nov 3, 2022 17:15:55 GMT -5
^ Agree with all of this. I don't think her outspokenness has gotten her blacklisted, but may have made some PDs more hesitant when they would normally jump on her stuff. She really lost her footing after "The Bones." I really can't place all the blame on "To Hell & Back" causing all of this, because I do think if she would have bounced back with a more impactful lead single PDs would've simply forgot "To Hell & Back" ever happened. They should ride this one up the chart and see how it goes, top 20 would be a huge success, then come back with something more undeniable. However, next era, she NEEDS, to find another producer. Greg might work in the pop world, but the only thing he's made for Maren that sounds original or organic is "The Bones" everything else feels bland. While I'm concerned, I'm not completely worried about her. I feel like it's all going to come down to next era to see how her long term prospects are. Agree that finding a new producer would be ideal, as I believe that's a big part of the problem. Losing Busbee was unfortunate, but to compare her to Carly Pearce since both of them were tied to Busbee for their first two projects: Pearce's pivot for her third album was a home run, while Maren's just didn't work.
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Post by austin on Nov 4, 2022 10:55:07 GMT -5
She released a little short film thing and a "re-imagined" version of 7 tracks. I at first thought "oh wow how smart this is just what she needs for new life into this project!" And then I listened expecting a re-birth of this record like "ballerini" and imagine my disappointment to learn it's just live acoustic versions that sound like shit.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Nov 4, 2022 13:13:50 GMT -5
She released a little short film thing and a "re-imagined" version of 7 tracks. I at first thought "oh wow how smart this is just what she needs for new life into this project!" And then I listened expecting a re-birth of this record like "ballerini" and imagine my disappointment to learn it's just live acoustic versions that sound like s**t. Personally, I found myself enjoying some of these versions better than the studio versions. "Background Music" was the standout among the tracks. I really wish they added strings in the studio version and tried to push it as a single during the winter months. The live version really gave me "Lover" and "Perfect" by Ed Sheeran vibes.
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Post by someguy on Nov 5, 2022 1:42:36 GMT -5
This is probably my favourite song from Humble Quest, and definitely the best shot at a second hit from the album. I do think that the Aldeam incident has hurt her country airplay chances, which is so unfortunate. She should not be the one experiencing the fallout from that.
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Post by zdm1998 on Nov 8, 2022 9:07:40 GMT -5
No new adds the past two weeks. Only 5 over the past month. Starting to wonder if this will peak lower than To Hell & Back. This is still young, but if this does end up with a top 10 peak it'll be a long ride up the chart. Really think this will most likely be the final single from the album. Might be a good idea for a small break after this is done, like Carrie usually does, to help spark interest in a new release whenever that comes.
Anyone know where this is on MB. Curious how close to the top 50 it is.
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Post by austin on Nov 8, 2022 9:35:49 GMT -5
No new adds the past two weeks. Only 5 over the past month. Starting to wonder if this will peak lower than To Hell & Back. This is still young, but if this does end up with a top 10 peak it'll be a long ride up the chart. Really think this will most likely be the final single from the album. Might be a good idea for a small break after this is done, like Carrie usually does, to help spark interest in a new release whenever that comes. Anyone know where this is on MB. Curious how close to the top 50 it is. She seems to always take long breaks, as the gap between her debut and GIRL and GIRL and Humble Quest were all pretty lengthy, or felt like it. This seems to be in trouble. It hasn't re-charted after charting, falling off, and re-charting the first time (then falling off again) and the adds are just not coming in.
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Post by someguy on Nov 13, 2022 2:14:31 GMT -5
No new adds the past two weeks. Only 5 over the past month. Starting to wonder if this will peak lower than To Hell & Back. This is still young, but if this does end up with a top 10 peak it'll be a long ride up the chart. Really think this will most likely be the final single from the album. Might be a good idea for a small break after this is done, like Carrie usually does, to help spark interest in a new release whenever that comes. Anyone know where this is on MB. Curious how close to the top 50 it is. She seems to always take long breaks, as the gap between her debut and GIRL and GIRL and Humble Quest were all pretty lengthy, or felt like it. This seems to be in trouble. It hasn't re-charted after charting, falling off, and re-charting the first time (then falling off again) and the adds are just not coming in. I agree. I hope it turns around, and it still can, but it needs to hurry up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 21:46:52 GMT -5
Still has not made the chart again. With the holidays and end of the year coming up, I don’t think this one returns on the chart in 2023
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Post by raylatch98 on Nov 14, 2022 21:58:25 GMT -5
Yeah the fact that 4 songs fell out this week and this couldn't enter this week definitely makes me think this is probably not returning or if it is this will just linger on the bottom half of the chart doing nothing of importance. It's still being promoted, but man this just can't gain any traction at all.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Nov 14, 2022 22:52:27 GMT -5
Yeah the fact that 4 songs fell out this week and this couldn't enter this week definitely makes me think this is probably not returning or if it is this will just linger on the bottom half of the chart doing nothing of importance. It's still being promoted, but man this just can't gain any traction at all. I hope they pull it in favor of "Detour". I think that song has a lot more potential.
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Post by zdm1998 on Nov 15, 2022 5:09:50 GMT -5
Yeah the fact that 4 songs fell out this week and this couldn't enter this week definitely makes me think this is probably not returning or if it is this will just linger on the bottom half of the chart doing nothing of importance. It's still being promoted, but man this just can't gain any traction at all. I hope they pull it in favor of "Detour". I think that song has a lot more potential. While I agree “Detour” probably would’ve fared better, going ahead and releasing it is risky, because it’s already at a disadvantage with her not having momentum given ICLYA causing her to lose even more momentum, so if that one flopped as well it would hurt her even more. This situation reminds me of Gabby’s with Footprints on the moon. If she wants another single from the album that will actually work she needs something undeniable that’s streaming/selling far ahead anything else on the album. I think Maren’s best two options after this are either have a deluxe version of the album with a few new songs that are more radio friendly, or take a break and come back Q2 or Q3 with guns blazing (which is probably what I would do.)
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Post by jamatthews83 on Nov 15, 2022 5:55:15 GMT -5
Honestly, I'd just push All My Favorite People or A Song For Everything.
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Post by Elusive Chanteuse on Nov 15, 2022 14:15:15 GMT -5
I didn’t want to believe it before but I do now. The feud with the Aldeans has had an impact. This is genuinely the most radio friendly song next to Circles, and it shouldn’t be struggling this much considering the household name Maren is…
Maybe the Grammy nominations will re-ignite some interest? If not, I say tackle a few songs for a re-issue, and get a radio deal for a song that sounds like it could be a massive smash. Otherwise, move on completely to something new. It’s clear that there is little to no interest for the album even among her fans.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Nov 15, 2022 14:36:12 GMT -5
I didn’t want to believe it before but I do now. The feud with the Aldeans has had an impact. This is genuinely the most radio friendly song next to Circles, and it shouldn’t be struggling this much considering the household name Maren is… Maybe the Grammy nominations will re-ignite some interest? If not, I say tackle a few songs for a re-issue, and get a radio deal for a song that sounds like it could be a massive smash. Otherwise, move on completely to something new. It’s clear that there is little to no interest for the album even among her fans. Maren didn't really seem to care about the commercial success of the project since she felt like she had nothing to prove (can't remember what interview she said that in), but I think HQ was the project she needed to drop after "GIRL". It's definitely paying off for her awards and critical reception wise, so it's a win there. Personally hoping she moves into a rock-country sound next. I think Jay Joyce and her could make a killer record together.
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Post by jab820 on Nov 21, 2022 20:53:51 GMT -5
Yeah, they must have gone ahead and pulled this song. So weird.
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