Billboard Hot 100: 08/27/2022

[mms82]

Aug 20, 2022 17:33:02 GMT -5 platinumg said:

Aug 20, 2022 17:20:28 GMT -5 mms82 said:

So I doubt Super Freak will be a legacy song that people think of with Nicki in 30 years looking back at her career - what do we think those songs will be?

I think she’ll be defined by Super Bass and Anaconda with Truffle Butter / Starships / Monster being the next “tier” of Nicki hits people remember - what do you all think?

Career defining moments are just that for a reason. Adele will never be defined by 30, Beyoncé will never be defined by Renaissance, Lady Gaga will never be defined by Chromatica. When artists get that certain moment where everything truly falls into place it just not meant to be topped.

Beyoncé has Lemonade and past hits like Halo to define her career.
Adele has the era of 21 and Hello to define her.
Lady Gaga has the era of The Fame: Monster & Bad Romance
Nicki has the eras of Pink Friday, and Starships and Anaconda.

After having major eras like these, artists generally just settle for having fun. You can’t really beat your peak as an artist. U can try but will always fall short.

Oh agree 100% - I think Nicki is a somewhat unique case because she caters heavily to multiple different audiences. Like I think there’s a chunk of people that still bop let’s go to the beach beach but never heard Monster and there’s a chunk of people who go on about Nicki’s verse in Monster as one of the best verses of all time who don’t even know Starships was Nicki

[mms82]

So curious on what people think her legacy will be

[Hashtag Pow]

Aug 20, 2022 17:16:40 GMT -5 platinumg said:

Aug 20, 2022 17:03:52 GMT -5 Hashtag Pow said:

People tend to correlate Nicki’s immature behavior with her music.

But from what I’ve seen, typically when people say she is “too old,” they are referring to the quality and content of the music she’s releasing. Nicki really hasn’t shown any significant growth or development “as an artist” in 15 years. She tends to to chase trends being led by whatever breakout male rapper of the moment, shade the rap girls, or she’s recycling her old s**t and trying to convince us that it’s amazing by posting that it’s #1 on Shazaam in China. 🥴

Anaconda was deserving of the #1 spot on the Hot 100. This cheap copy really doesn’t, and of course it’s not really going to have a lasting impression on her overall legacy—especially if it nosedives down the charts like her past 20 releases have. But good for her for finally getting a solo #1. She’s def had her eyes on the prize ever since the new era of girls have come in and done it in less time, and with fewer antics.

You made these comments as a Cardi B fan and not from an unbiased point of view. [invalid]

You literally have no idea who I’m fan of. I don’t even post here that often anymore. And those who actually are familiar with me know I am an advocate of all female rap, and typically started most of the threads about female rappers on this board. Perhaps you’re biased towards Nicki, and as a fan you’re looking to invalidate my point by trying to make this seem like some kind of stan war. Wrong person.

[platinumg]

Aug 20, 2022 17:36:38 GMT -5 mms82 said:

Aug 20, 2022 17:33:02 GMT -5 platinumg said:

Career defining moments are just that for a reason. Adele will never be defined by 30, Beyoncé will never be defined by Renaissance, Lady Gaga will never be defined by Chromatica. When artists get that certain moment where everything truly falls into place it just not meant to be topped.

Beyoncé has Lemonade and past hits like Halo to define her career.
Adele has the era of 21 and Hello to define her.
Lady Gaga has the era of The Fame: Monster & Bad Romance
Nicki has the eras of Pink Friday, and Starships and Anaconda.

After having major eras like these, artists generally just settle for having fun. You can’t really beat your peak as an artist. U can try but will always fall short.

Oh agree 100% - I think Nicki is a somewhat unique case because she caters heavily to multiple different audiences. Like I think there’s a chunk of people that still bop let’s go to the beach beach but never heard Monster and there’s a chunk of people who go on about Nicki’s verse in Monster as one of the best verses of all time who don’t even know Starships was Nicki

You know exactly what you’re talking about. I love it! Nicki really broke into mainstream when she went fully Pop with her 2nd album. However, She was huge in the world of rap with her debut album. She created a fanbase for herself that’s very hard to live up to. You can’t do multiple fully Pop eras if you claim the title Queen or Rap. & she can’t sell as much or be as successful by just rapping due to her audience being split. I think her Pop audience is much bigger than her rap audience tho. As soon as she released a Pop Song after 8 years, she finally has a global hit again. It’s really tricky for her. She’ll have to choose between being The Queen of Rap or Just being an Artist. & we know she prefers Rap.

[Hashtag Pow]

Aug 20, 2022 17:20:28 GMT -5 mms82 said:

So I doubt Super Freak will be a legacy song that people think of with Nicki in 30 years looking back at her career - what do we think those songs will be?

I think she’ll be defined by Super Bass and Anaconda with Truffle Butter / Starships / Monster being the next “tier” of Nicki hits people remember - what do you all think?

I think this is a good set. Her features really are going to be some of the more memorable moments of her career. 

[Choco]

Aug 20, 2022 17:36:58 GMT -5 mms82 said:

So curious on what people think her legacy will be

A groundbreaking, trail-blazing, door-opening female rapper. But 95% of that is due to her run from "Monster" into The Pinkprint. Nothing since has quite matched in impact, even if her fanbase inflates week 1 peaks. The problem most people have with Nicki, let's be honest, is that she isn't likable as a person and she's always working or getting involved with problematic people like her husband, 69 or even Dr. Puke. But none of that discredits the huge run she had. There'd be no Cardi, Megan, Doja or even Iggy if it wasn't for Onika.

I think one needs to be cautious when calling this an already big, legacy win for her. For all the positive stats, it's doing well for a 2022 Nicki Minaj single but isn't quite setting the streamers on fire either. I think next week could go either way. Sales will be way down and she has little airplay to make up the gap, so those "#1 next week too" posts seem premature; streaming could, at best, be stable (and it's already slipping a little on Apple, so again, it could go either way).

[wavey.]

She still the video to drop and VMA's, so that's a plus. Also, it seems like she can hop QR at any given time, so that's a lil promo too. Oh, and radio.

I forgot DWHAP? was getting a nice bit of airplay on the mainstream level.

[Private Dancer]

Aug 20, 2022 17:03:52 GMT -5 Hashtag Pow said:

People tend to correlate Nicki’s immature behavior with her music.

But from what I’ve seen, typically when people say she is “too old,” they are referring to the quality and content of the music she’s releasing. Nicki really hasn’t shown any significant growth or development “as an artist” in 15 years. She tends to to chase trends being led by whatever breakout male rapper of the moment, shade the rap girls, or she’s recycling her old s**t and trying to convince us that it’s amazing by posting that it’s #1 on Shazaam in China. 🥴

Anaconda was deserving of the #1 spot on the Hot 100. This cheap copy really doesn’t, and of course it’s not really going to have a lasting impression on her overall legacy—especially if it nosedives down the charts like her past 20 releases have. But good for her for finally getting a solo #1. She’s def had her eyes on the prize ever since the new era of girls have come in and done it in less time, and with fewer antics.

 LOL! NOt #1 on Shazaam in China!!! LMFAO!

But in all seriousness, it is true. She really has not shown growth as an artist. It is literally the same thing every time.  Adele, Beyonce, Rihanna, Lady Gaga, Katy, hell even Kesha has had more musical growth than Nicki Minaj.

You spoke nothing but facts!!

Edit: is SFG going to #1...does anyone know and who is in the lead for the #1 spot?

[M5AGTS]

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Roman Holiday as one of Nicki's legacy songs. That meme has still not died and probably won't for a long long time. Also I would argue Beauty And A Beat falls into this category as well. That one lyric is still a huge meme.

[wavey.]

Lmao wtf else do yall want her to do🙃

She's done pop/dance/novelty songs, vulnerable songs, rap songs, pop features, rap features, pop rock features, SNL spoof songs...idk but yeah.
Maybe some Jazz or Country this year?🤔 or an Orchestra?

Aug 20, 2022 18:58:16 GMT -5 M5AGTS said:

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Roman Holiday as one of Nicki's legacy songs. That meme has still not died and probably won't for a long long time. Also I would argue Beauty And A Beat falls into this category as well. That one lyric is still a huge meme.

RH is more of a Twitter meme, but I can be wrong(I have a Tik Tok, but I don't really use it as much.) And yeah, a few more memorable pop hits, like the one you mentioned with Bieber. Hell, her "Bottoms Up" verse still goes down, but I think that was mentioned in her most famous.

[jasper0102]

[Private Dancer]

AIW is stable...I would rather BMS, AIW, ABDT, or even FC go back to #1 than this...

[jasper0102]

Aug 20, 2022 19:12:41 GMT -5 Private Dancer said:

AIW is stable...I would rather BMS, AIW, ABDT, or even FC go back to #1 than this...

Well, you’re in bad luck, as SFG is certainly getting a music video sometime within the next week that will, with the help of some radio gains, be able to patch up most of the sales losses, and 2 of the 4 songs you would rather go back to #1 have zero chance of going back there. On the other side, BMS still has no music video and AIW is what you said.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

[Private Dancer]

Aug 20, 2022 21:28:17 GMT -5 jasper0102 said:

Aug 20, 2022 19:12:41 GMT -5 Private Dancer said:

AIW is stable...I would rather BMS, AIW, ABDT, or even FC go back to #1 than this...

Well, you’re in bad luck, as SFG is certainly getting a music video sometime within the next week that will, with the help of some radio gains, be able to patch up most of the sales losses, and 2 of the 4 songs you would rather go back to #1 have zero chance of going back there. On the other side, BMS still has no music video and AIW is what you said.

Ofc I'm aware of all of this just wishful thinking 

[M5AGTS]

Aug 20, 2022 18:58:55 GMT -5 wavey. said:

Lmao wtf else do yall want her to do🙃

She's done pop/dance/novelty songs, vulnerable songs, rap songs, pop features, rap features, pop rock features, SNL spoof songs...idk but yeah.
Maybe some Jazz or Country this year?🤔 or an Orchestra?

Aug 20, 2022 18:58:16 GMT -5 M5AGTS said:

I'm surprised no one has mentioned Roman Holiday as one of Nicki's legacy songs. That meme has still not died and probably won't for a long long time. Also I would argue Beauty And A Beat falls into this category as well. That one lyric is still a huge meme.

RH is more of a Twitter meme, but I can be wrong(I have a Tik Tok, but I don't really use it as much.) And yeah, a few more memorable pop hits, like the one you mentioned with Bieber. Hell, her "Bottoms Up" verse still goes down, but I think that was mentioned in her most famous.

Roman Holiday is all over tik tok as well fyi. And also if baab counts cause of that one line, then rh definitely counts cause of that iconic verse, cause they're both memes.

[artistry]

Aug 20, 2022 17:36:58 GMT -5 mms82 said:

So curious on what people think her legacy will be

Songs like Starships, SuperBass and Turn Me On. And then her legacy will include features like Side to Side and Say So.

[artistry]

Aug 20, 2022 17:03:52 GMT -5 Hashtag Pow said:

People tend to correlate Nicki’s immature behavior with her music.

But from what I’ve seen, typically when people say she is “too old,” they are referring to the quality and content of the music she’s releasing. Nicki really hasn’t shown any significant growth or development “as an artist” in 15 years. She tends to to chase trends being led by whatever breakout male rapper of the moment, shade the rap girls, or she’s recycling her old s**t and trying to convince us that it’s amazing by posting that it’s #1 on Shazaam in China. 🥴

Anaconda was deserving of the #1 spot on the Hot 100. This cheap copy really doesn’t, and of course it’s not really going to have a lasting impression on her overall legacy—especially if it nosedives down the charts like her past 20 releases have. But good for her for finally getting a solo #1. She’s def had her eyes on the prize ever since the new era of girls have come in and done it in less time, and with fewer antics.

You hit it right on the nail. It is about the content of the song. Not showing any growth as an artist. And then to have this type of song be a #1 for a 39 year old is surprising. First, it is unusual seeing female rappers of a certain age continue to have big hits, especially a #1 song.

Btw, I will be looking. I don't want it to go back to the early 00s, when only Nicki Minaj was able to be successful. We must admit since Cardi B arrived, other female rappers such as Meghan Thee Stallion, Latto, Lizzo, Coi Leray, Sweetie, City Girls and now Glorilla have been able to be successful and have hits.

[JukeboxJacob]

Nicki looks and acts shockingly young for being middle aged

anyway since everyone's talking about her legacy, here's some of her most iconic lines:
-that crazy verse in Super Bass
-let's go to the beach beach
-all of Anaconda
-all around the world, do you hear me?
-that line in Beauty & A Beat

Most underrated song: Pound The Alarm

[Au$tin]

Aug 21, 2022 0:14:00 GMT -5 artistry said:

Aug 20, 2022 17:36:58 GMT -5 mms82 said:

So curious on what people think her legacy will be

Songs like Starships, SuperBass and Turn Me On. And then her legacy will include features like Side to Side and Say So.

For the pop hoes, sure, but in the tap community it most certainly won't be any of those.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Odd no one's mentioned the Monster verse when discussing Nicki's legacy

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Aug 21, 2022 0:31:49 GMT -5 artistry said:

Btw, I will be looking. I don't want it to go back to the early 00s, when only Nicki Minaj was able to be successful. We must admit since Cardi B arrived, other female rappers such as Meghan Thee Stallion, Latto, Lizzo, Coi Leray, Sweetie, City Girls and now Glorilla have been able to be successful and have hits.

Keep in mind that people consume rap music MUCH more in the last 5 years, so it's logical to have more successful female rappers now, than 10 years ago.

[artistry]

Aug 21, 2022 9:34:08 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Aug 21, 2022 0:31:49 GMT -5 artistry said:

Btw, I will be looking. I don't want it to go back to the early 00s, when only Nicki Minaj was able to be successful. We must admit since Cardi B arrived, other female rappers such as Meghan Thee Stallion, Latto, Lizzo, Coi Leray, Sweetie, City Girls and now Glorilla have been able to be successful and have hits.

Keep in mind that people consume rap music MUCH more in the last 5 years, so it's logical to have more successful female rappers now, than 10 years ago.

People were consuming music from male rappers back then. But it was just Nicki's music being consumed for the female rappers? I wish Remy Ma and Azealia Banks were able to breakthrough and have a few top 40 hits back then. Heck, even Rapsody could have had at least a song or two to just enter the chart.

[wavey.]

Aug 21, 2022 8:22:52 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Odd no one's mentioned the Monster verse when discussing Nicki's legacy

Oh no doubt, but I feel more verse eventually eclipsed it?

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Aug 21, 2022 10:10:23 GMT -5 wavey. said:

Aug 21, 2022 8:22:52 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Odd no one's mentioned the Monster verse when discussing Nicki's legacy

Oh no doubt, but I feel more verse eventually eclipsed it?

I mean it's still being quoted and referenced in full to this day by hip-hop and pop fans, feel like it's her most respected verse

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 60, 55, 50, 45, and 40 years ago:

August 25, 1962

01 02 The Loco-Motion - Little Eva (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 Breaking Up Is Hard To Do - Neil Sedaka
03 06 Things - Bobby Darin
04 05 You Don't Know Me - Ray Charles
05 12 Sheila - Tommy Roe
06 03 Roses Are Red (My Love) - Bobby Vinton
07 11 Party Lights - Claudine Clark
08 13 She's Not You - Elvis Presley
09 07 Ahab, The Arab - Ray Stevens
10 08 Little Diane - Dion


August 26, 1967

01 07 Ode To Billie Joe - Bobbie Gentry (1st of 4 weeks at #1)
02 01 All You Need Is Love - The Beatles
03 03 Pleasant Valley Sunday - The Monkees
04 02 Light My Fire - The Doors
05 05 Baby I Love You - Aretha Franklin
06 04 I Was Made To Love Her - Stevie Wonder
07 08 Cold Sweat (Part 1) - James Brown
08 20 Reflections - Diana Ross & The Supremes
09 21 You're My Everything - The Temptations
10 09 A Whiter Shade Of Pale - Procol Harum

25 58 The Letter - The Box Tops


August 26, 1972

01 02 Brandy (You're a Fine Girl) - Looking Glass (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 Alone Again (Naturally) - Gilbert O'Sullivan
03 03 Long Cool Woman (In a Black Dress) - The Hollies
04 05 I'm Still In Love With You - Al Green
05 08 Hold Your Head Up - Argent
06 04 (If Loving You Is Wrong) I Don't Want To Be Right - Luther Ingram
07 10 Goodbye To Love - The Carpenters
08 09 Coconut - Nilsson
09 12 You Don't Mess Around With Jim - Jim Croce
10 18 Baby Don't Get Hooked On Me - Mac Davis

23 47 Black & White - Three Dog Night


August 27, 1977

01 01 Best Of My Love - The Emotions (2nd of 5 weeks at #1)
02 02 I Just Want To Be Your Everything - Andy Gibb
03 03 (Your Love Has Lifted Me) Higher And Higher - Rita Coolidge
04 05 Easy - The Commodores
05 12 Handy Man - James Taylor
06 06 Whatcha Gonna Do - deleted Cruise
07 08 Just a Song Before I Go - Crosby, Stills & Nash
08 13 Float On - The Floaters
09 11 Don't Stop - Fleetwood Mac
10 23 Strawberry Letter 23 - The Brothers Johnson


August 28, 1982

01 01 Eye Of The Tiger - Survivor (6th and final week at #1)
02 02 Hurts So Good - John Cougar
03 03 Abracadabra - The Steve Miller Band
04 04 Hold Me - Fleetwood Mack
05 05 Hard To Say I'm Sorry - Chicago
06 06 Even The Nights Are Better - Air Supply
07 07 Keep The Fire Burnin' - REO Speedwagon
08 08 Vacation - The Go-Go's
09 09 Wasted On The Way - Crosby, Stills & Nash
10 10 Take It Away - Paul McCartney

11 11 You Should Hear How She Talks About You - Melissa Manchester
12 12 Love Is In Control (Finger On The Trigger) - Donna Summer

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 from 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:

August 29, 1987

01 02 La Bamba - Los Lobos (1st of 3 weeks at #1)
02 01 Who's That Girl - Madonna
03 04 Don't Mean Nothing - Richard Marx
04 03 Luka - Suzanne Vega
05 07 Only In My Dreams - Debbie Gibson
06 10 I Just Can't Stop Loving You - Michael Jackson & Siedah Garrett
07 08 Rock Steady - The Whispers
08 16 Didn't We Almost Have It All - Whitney Houston
09 11 It's Not Over ('Til It's Over) - Starship
10 12 Can't We Try - Dan Hill & Vonda Shepard


August 29, 1992

01 01 End Of The Road - Boyz II Men (3rd of 13 weeks at #1)
02 02 Baby-Baby-Baby - TLC
03 04 November Rain - Guns N' Roses
04 03 This Used To Be My Playground - Madonna
05 05 Baby Got Back - Sir Mix-a-Lot
06 11 Humpin' Around - Bobby Brown
07 07 Giving Him Something He Can Feel - En Vogue
08 08 Just Another Day - Jon Secada
09 10 Stay - Shakespear's Sister
10 06 Life Is a Highway - Tom Cochrane

18 43 Sometimes Love Just Ain't Enough - Patty Smyth & Don Henley


August 30, 1997

01 02 Mo Money Mo Problems - The Notorious B.I.G. feat. Puff Daddy & Mase (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 01 I'll Be Missing You - Puff Daddy & Faith Evans feat. 112
03 03 Quit Playing Games (With My Heart) - The Backstreet Boys
04 04 Semi-Charmed Life - Third Eye Blind
05 05 2 Become 1 - The Spice Girls
06 06 How Do I Live - LeAnn Rimes
07 08 Not Tonight - Lil Kim feat. Left Eye, Da Brat, Missy Elliott & Angie Martinez
08 07 Never Make a Promise - Dru Hill
09 10 Do You Know (What It Takes) - Robyn
10 11 Sunny Came Home - Shawn Colvin


August 24, 2002

01 01 Dilemma - Nelly feat. Kelly Rowland (2nd of 10 weeks at #1)
02 02 Hot In Herre - Nelly
03 03 Complicated - Avril Lavigne
04 05 Just a Friend 2002 - Mario
05 04 I Need a Girl (Part 2) - P. Diddy & Ginuwine feat. Loon, Mario Winans & Tammy Ruggieri
06 11 Gangsta Lovin' - Eve feat. Alicia Keys
07 06 Down 4 U - Irv Gotti presents The Inc. feat. Ja Rule, Ashanti, Charli Baltimore & Vita
08 08 Just Like a Pill - P!nk
09 12 Happy - Ashanti
10 10 Nothin' - N.O.R.E.

[mms82]

Aug 21, 2022 10:49:36 GMT -5 Soulsista said:

August 25, 1962
09 07 Ahab, The Arab - Ray Stevens

what

[Soulsista]

Billboard Top 10 Flashback:

August 25, 2007

01 01 Beautiful Girls - Sean Kingston (3rd of 4 weeks at #1)
02 02 Big Girls Don't Cry - Fergie
03 04 The Way I Are - Timbaland feat. Keri Hilson
04 03 Hey There Delilah - Plain White T's
05 05 Umbrella - Rihanna feat. Jay-Z
06 06 Stronger - Kanye West
07 07 Bartender - T-Pain feat. Akon
08 09 Make Me Better - Fabolous feat. Ne-Yo
09 08 A Bay Bay - Hurricane Chris
10 12 Shawty - Plies feat. T-Pain

22 NE Ayo Technology - 50 Cent feat. Justin Timberlake & Timbaland


August 25, 2012

01 03 Whistle - Flo Rida (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 02 Lights - Ellie Goulding
03 01 Call Me Maybe - Carly Rae Jepsen
04 04 Wide Awake - Katy Perry
05 05 Payphone - Maroon 5 feat. Wiz Khalifa
06 06 Somebody That I Used To Know - Gotye feat. Kimbra
07 08 Titanium - David Guetta feat. Sia
08 11 Some Nights - fun.
09 09 Home - Phillip Phillips
10 07 Where Have You Been - Rihanna

23 NE I Will Wait - Mumford & Sons


August 26, 2017

01 01 Despacito - Luis Fonsi & Daddy Yankee feat. Justin Bieber (14th of 16 weeks at #1)
02 02 Wild Thoughts - DJ Khaled feat. Rihanna & Bryson Tiller
03 03 Unforgettable - French Montana feat. Swae Lee
04 05 Believer - Imagine Dragons
05 07 Attention - Charlie Puth
06 08 There's Nothing Holdin' Me Back - Shawn Mendes
07 04 That's What I Like - Bruno Mars
08 14 Bodak Yellow (Money Moves) - Cardi B
09 09 Shape Of You - Ed Sheeran
10 06 I'm The One - DJ Khaled feat. Justin Bieber, Quavo, Chance The Rapper & Lil Wayne


August 28, 2021

01 01 Stay - The Kid LAROI & Justin Bieber (3rd of 7 weeks at #1)
02 03 Bad Habits - Ed Sheeran
03 02 good 4 u - Olivia Rodrigo
04 NE Rumors - Lizzo & Cardi B
05 04 Kiss Me More - Doja Cat feat. SZA
06 05 Levitating - Dua Lipa feat. DaBaby
07 08 INDUSTRY BABY - Lil Nas X x Jack Harlow
08 07 Butter - BTS
09 10 deja vu - Olivia Rodrigo
10 09 MONTERO (Call Me By Your Name) - Lil Nas X

16 44 Essence - Wizkid feat. Tems

[atg]

Aug 21, 2022 10:36:03 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Aug 21, 2022 10:10:23 GMT -5 wavey. said:

Oh no doubt, but I feel more verse eventually eclipsed it?

I mean it's still being quoted and referenced in full to this day by hip-hop and pop fans, feel like it's her most respected verse

It’s probably because its on the same album which is widely called one of the best hip hop projects of the 2010s let alone of all time. Rick Ross also has his most respected verse on MBDTF as well.