Billboard Hot 100: 08/27/2022

[nathanalbright]

How much time does she have though? Would her label drop her after one flop release, and if she was dropped do you think she has the ability to make it as an independent artist?

[rainygirl]

Aug 12, 2022 9:22:38 GMT -5 nathanalbright said:

How much time does she have though? Would her label drop her after one flop release, and if she was dropped do you think she has the ability to make it as an independent artist?

hasn’t Megan been wanting out of her contract ? I think she would do so much better in a more nurturing environment. Her current record company definitely don’t have her best interest in mind

[M5AGTS]

Another reason why I feel like Megan is failing commercially here is because she's failing to evolve. Every big artist has to evolve musically to stay relevant. That's how it's always been. Nobody wants to hear the same shit. No matter what kind of artist you are, you need to be constantly evolving and reinventing yourself. Megan here, with the exception of Sweetest Pie, is just not doing that. Notice how her biggest hit last year was Beautiful Mistakes, and notice how her only hit this year is Sweetest Pie. This is the type of music people want from her nowadays, and she's just not delivering. She's STILL doing the same shit that she was doing back in 2019-2020, and people are sick of that.

[wavey.]

She's just in a bad deal, with good management.

[rainygirl]

Aug 12, 2022 9:27:37 GMT -5 M5AGTS said:

Another reason why I feel like Megan is failing commercially here is because she's failing to evolve. Every big artist has to evolve musically to stay relevant. That's how it's always been. Nobody wants to hear the same s**t. No matter what kind of artist you are, you need to be constantly evolving and reinventing yourself. Megan here, with the exception of Sweetest Pie, is just not doing that. Notice how her biggest hit last year was Beautiful Mistakes, and notice how her only hit this year is Sweetest Pie. This is the type of music people want from her nowadays, and she's just not delivering. She's STILL doing the same s**t that she was doing back in 2019-2020, and people are sick of that.

I think she and LNX would make something really fun together

[M5AGTS]

Aug 12, 2022 9:43:06 GMT -5 rainygirl said:

Aug 12, 2022 9:27:37 GMT -5 M5AGTS said:

Another reason why I feel like Megan is failing commercially here is because she's failing to evolve. Every big artist has to evolve musically to stay relevant. That's how it's always been. Nobody wants to hear the same s**t. No matter what kind of artist you are, you need to be constantly evolving and reinventing yourself. Megan here, with the exception of Sweetest Pie, is just not doing that. Notice how her biggest hit last year was Beautiful Mistakes, and notice how her only hit this year is Sweetest Pie. This is the type of music people want from her nowadays, and she's just not delivering. She's STILL doing the same s**t that she was doing back in 2019-2020, and people are sick of that.

I think she and LNX would make something really fun together

They have collabed before.

[jayhawk1117]

Not gonna say Megan is like Ty Dolla Sign where she’s only good as a featured artist/in doses but the charts…. Are starting to say that

But like someone else said Meghan feels more like a Big celebrity instead of a big artist

[dremolus - solarpunk]

On a technical level, Megan runs circles around most of the rappers in the mainstream. She's sharp with her flows, quick with her bars, got a lot of charisma in her voice, she'll be fine if she doesn't "change much".

I find it odd to pressure artists to CONSTANTLY evolve and reinvent yourself because artist evolution and reinvention is different for every artist and will be interpreted differently by other listeners. Case in point: people have been saying Drake has been doing the same thing for years but his fans don't mind and some say he has changed. I think singers like Justin Bieber or Chris Brown have never changed or evolved their act but that's just my opinion, it obviously doesn't change their fame.

What's the ceiling? What's the barometer? Why can't it be good to stay in your lane for a few albums? What happens if you do change or evolve but it doesn't see the rewards you were expecting? Should that be rewarded just for evolving or should that be seen as a failure for not getting critical or commercial acclaim? Or what about artists who get acclaim despite not really changing their sound? Are we going to say Run the Jewels or Carly Rae Jepsen or Phoebe Bridgers - or looking to the mainstream: Bruno Mars, Post Malone, or Future, are they bad acts because they haven't changed that much over the past few years? Again, this is all a matter of taste.

[magik]

Aug 12, 2022 9:11:05 GMT -5 M5AGTS said:

See imo, Megan and Dababy are the best when they're "Ludacrises". By that i mean, when they're on pop songs they're at their absolute best. Other than that, neither of them really do much for me.

Good thing you said "for me" because Ludacris absolutely gave his worst on pop songs to most of his die hard fans. He was mostly disposable on those songs. His talents are much more than his Pitbull/Carrie Underwood/Justin Bieber songs.

[magik]

Aug 12, 2022 9:57:05 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

On a technical level, Megan runs circles around most of the rappers in the mainstream. She's sharp with her flows, quick with her bars, got a lot of charisma in her voice, she'll be fine if she doesn't "change much".

I find it odd to pressure artists to CONSTANTLY evolve and reinvent yourself because artist evolution and reinvention is different for every artist and will be interpreted differently by other listeners. Case in point: people have been saying Drake has been doing the same thing for years but his fans don't mind and some say he has changed. I think singers like Justin Bieber or Chris Brown have never changed or evolved their act but that's just my opinion, it obviously doesn't change their fame.

What's the ceiling? What's the barometer? Why can't it be good to stay in your lane for a few albums? What happens if you do change or evolve but it doesn't see the rewards you were expecting? Should that be rewarded just for evolving or should that be seen as a failure for not getting critical or commercial acclaim? Or what about artists who get acclaim despite not really changing their sound? Are we going to say Run the Jewels or Carly Rae Jepsen or Phoebe Bridgers - or looking to the mainstream: Bruno Mars, Post Malone, or Future, are they bad acts because they haven't changed that much over the past few years? Again, this is all a matter of taste.

It'd be different if Megan's more of the same is reaping her benefits. It's not. That's the difference. Some styles grow older and faster than others. Megan is not Run The Jewels. She's a commercial rap artist who is always in the spotlight. 

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Aug 12, 2022 10:13:38 GMT -5 magik said:

Aug 12, 2022 9:57:05 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

On a technical level, Megan runs circles around most of the rappers in the mainstream. She's sharp with her flows, quick with her bars, got a lot of charisma in her voice, she'll be fine if she doesn't "change much".

I find it odd to pressure artists to CONSTANTLY evolve and reinvent yourself because artist evolution and reinvention is different for every artist and will be interpreted differently by other listeners. Case in point: people have been saying Drake has been doing the same thing for years but his fans don't mind and some say he has changed. I think singers like Justin Bieber or Chris Brown have never changed or evolved their act but that's just my opinion, it obviously doesn't change their fame.

What's the ceiling? What's the barometer? Why can't it be good to stay in your lane for a few albums? What happens if you do change or evolve but it doesn't see the rewards you were expecting? Should that be rewarded just for evolving or should that be seen as a failure for not getting critical or commercial acclaim? Or what about artists who get acclaim despite not really changing their sound? Are we going to say Run the Jewels or Carly Rae Jepsen or Phoebe Bridgers - or looking to the mainstream: Bruno Mars, Post Malone, or Future, are they bad acts because they haven't changed that much over the past few years? Again, this is all a matter of taste.

It'd be different if Megan's more of the same is reaping her benefits. It's not. That's the difference. Some styles grow older and faster than others. Megan is not Run The Jewels. She's a commercial rap artist who is always in the spotlight. 

But again, we've seen other commercial rap artists who don't precisely "evolve" or go out of their comfort zone and stay relevant and popular. Again: who really says whether an artist evolves or not?

Evolution isn't Pokemon where there's definitive and concrete changes.

[magik]

Aug 12, 2022 10:19:49 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Aug 12, 2022 10:13:38 GMT -5 magik said:

It'd be different if Megan's more of the same is reaping her benefits. It's not. That's the difference. Some styles grow older and faster than others. Megan is not Run The Jewels. She's a commercial rap artist who is always in the spotlight. 

But again, we've seen other commercial rap artists who don't precisely "evolve" or go out of their comfort zone and stay relevant and popular. Again: who really says whether an artist evolves or not?

And again, some styles grow older and faster than others. Megan's style may not be as accessible or as long lasting as Drake's. For what it's worth, Drake has tried other styles. We haven't really seen much from Megan outside of her gritty, "Bad bitch" persona. We all know women in Hip Hop tend to have harder times adapting or successfully transitioning (if you will) in the mainstream, especially compared to their male counterparts. And this is not a slight at Megan, but it's ultimately the general public's "fault".

[Mayman]

The people saying that she needs to switch it up clearly did not listen to the new album. There's a variety of topics on this album and it's a lot more rap focused, whereas Good News had a lot of different sounds and pop crossovers.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Aug 12, 2022 10:23:26 GMT -5 magik said:

Aug 12, 2022 10:19:49 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

But again, we've seen other commercial rap artists who don't precisely "evolve" or go out of their comfort zone and stay relevant and popular. Again: who really says whether an artist evolves or not?

And again, some styles grow older and faster than others. Megan's style may not be as accessible or as long lasting as Drake's. For what it's worth, Drake has tried other styles. We haven't really seen much from Megan outside of her gritty, "Bad bitch" persona. We all know women in Hip Hop tend to have harder times adapting or successfully transitioning (if you will) in the mainstream, especially compared to their male counterparts. And this is not a slight at Megan, but it's ultimately the general public's "fault".

But also Megan's only been in the game for a few years while Drake's been popular for a decade so who knows.

I do agree that Megan's style isn't as long-lasting in the mainstream as Drake (although you could argue Nicki and Missy are counterpoints/exceptions), and I also agree it's the GP's fault that women have a harder time being accepting or "adapting" in the mainstream.

[fridayteenage]

for new songs, the 19 highest on apple are rod wave.
nicki is 20th highest new song.

[iHype.]

Megan’s first week numbers are about to be so ugly. 😵‍💫

#170 for the highest song on Apple Music so far.

Nicki’s performance is underwhelming so far too since it was supposed to be going viral on social media prior and teased for awhile. It does not look to be doing notable on streaming whatsoever.

[Groovy]

Speaking of Rod Wave, I'm just letting y'all know right now that By Your Side should've been bigger than it was, it's great.

[rainygirl]

Aug 12, 2022 12:39:42 GMT -5 Groovy said:

Speaking of Rod Wave, I'm just letting y'all know right now that By Your Side should've been bigger than it was, it's great.

will Rod Wave performance be less than AM?

[kindofbiased]

Aug 12, 2022 8:21:06 GMT -5 magik said:

Isn't this album sorta a surprise? Someone like Megan shouldn't be doing surprise releases. Save that for the Beyoncés of the music world. Megan is striking me as more of a "huge celebrity" than a "huge music artist." She also needs to diversify her sound a bit. I think her style is growing a bit tired for the masses.

I don't think it was supposed to come out this early tbh, so much about this album was leaked ahead of time which probably made her want to push it up and get it out there. Plus this is the last album she had to do for her label which has been notoriously shitty towards her so that probably factored in as well

[Music Fan]

Aug 12, 2022 6:38:07 GMT -5 mms82 said:

I hope the Sunroof remix with Thomas Rhett gets some crossover country radio play (it’s as country as Good Time which went number one on HCS) and pushes this song to number one (with a Thomas Rhett credit, but that’s probably too much to dream for)

THERE'S A THOMAS RHETT REMIX?!?!? :)

[joshtheking]

She fkn snapped yall

[snidelaughter]

gotta say, even ignoring who Dr. Luke is as a person, he’s becoming a hack of a producer through making classic samples sound mediocre (Big Energy and now Super Freaky Girl) or just straight up producing dogshit (Slut Pop by Kim Petras being the biggest example but also Big Steppa was the worst song on the Flo Milli album)

[M5AGTS]

Aug 12, 2022 13:58:24 GMT -5 joshtheking said:

She fkn snapped yall

I have a huge problem with this. This is the most blatant queerbating I've ever seen, but the same people that constantly accuse everyone for the tiniest bit of queerbaiting are gonna be all over this because of the name attached to it. I'm not saying it's a bad song, but it is a bad video, and people's reactions to it are gonna really rub me the wrong way.

[joshtheking]

Aug 12, 2022 14:08:45 GMT -5 M5AGTS said:

Aug 12, 2022 13:58:24 GMT -5 joshtheking said:

She fkn snapped yall

I have a huge problem with this. This is the most blatant queerbating I've ever seen, but the same people that constantly accuse everyone for the tiniest bit of queerbaiting are gonna be all over this because of the name attached to it. I'm not saying it's a bad song, but it is a bad video, and people's reactions to it are gonna really rub me the wrong way.

How is it queerbaiting????

[Music Fan]

Aug 12, 2022 14:08:45 GMT -5 M5AGTS said:

Aug 12, 2022 13:58:24 GMT -5 joshtheking said:

She fkn snapped yall

I have a huge problem with this. This is the most blatant queerbating I've ever seen, but the same people that constantly accuse everyone for the tiniest bit of queerbaiting are gonna be all over this because of the name attached to it. I'm not saying it's a bad song, but it is a bad video, and people's reactions to it are gonna really rub me the wrong way.

I may be oblivious, how is this queerbaiting?

[nathanalbright]

I'm not seeing it either. Is it the whole bit with the guy and his dominatrix wife or all the guys around her? Obviously I'm not being baited, I suppose.

[Taylor.]

Queerbaiting because the dancers are gay...? lmao

[joshtheking]

Aug 12, 2022 15:00:05 GMT -5 Taylor. said:

Queerbaiting because the dancers are gay...? lmao

Gay people can't exist sadly

[kimberly]

using dancers who may be queer in real life as her straight partners in the video is not queerbaiting lmao. what even

[M5AGTS]

Aug 12, 2022 14:52:22 GMT -5 joshtheking said:

Aug 12, 2022 14:08:45 GMT -5 M5AGTS said:

I have a huge problem with this. This is the most blatant queerbating I've ever seen, but the same people that constantly accuse everyone for the tiniest bit of queerbaiting are gonna be all over this because of the name attached to it. I'm not saying it's a bad song, but it is a bad video, and people's reactions to it are gonna really rub me the wrong way.

How is it queerbaiting????

Do straight guys dance like that? No. Those dancers were obviously there to bring in a queer audience, and I expected some actual representation, but I was left dissapointed as there was none. Therefore, I feel kind of robbed. It was definitely bait, and really rubs me the wrong way.