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Post by Grün on Jul 17, 2023 18:34:13 GMT -5
Being the capitalistic queen I know she is, Taylor should release Lover (From the Vault) in late August (August 23) as Cruel Summer starts to peak. It can include 5 new song, all the MVs, and her plans for Loverfest. A Disney+ Loverfest Documentary would be too much to ask for but would be amazing. If she does that, I will need to reinstate my disney plus hahaa can't be missing out like that.
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Post by kimberly on Jul 17, 2023 18:38:36 GMT -5
A Disney+ Loverfest Documentary would be too much to ask for but would be amazing. I would actually be very curious to know how much work was already underway for Lover Fest before it got canceled. She initially "postponed" them in April 2020, when she hypothetically would have had over 2 months before the first show of the tour and over 3 months to Lover Fest West Coast dates. What was on her setlist? Who were going to be the opening acts and guests for the US shows (which were branded as "Taylor Swift and Friends")? Was it going to be a more laid back tour like the City of Lover show? The one production element that we do have a rough idea of is the stage design: ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGzXa0RVAAA6lSq.jpg)
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Post by andrebra on Jul 18, 2023 0:10:07 GMT -5
That stage design is really interesting to me, has she ever performed in the round before?
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Post by zana on Jul 18, 2023 2:48:19 GMT -5
That stage design is really interesting to me, has she ever performed in the round before? it would’ve been the first time in her career to perform in 360* stage!
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 18, 2023 5:20:50 GMT -5
I got tickets for Liverpool! Right up the back but I don’t care. Can’t wait!
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Post by Au$tin on Jul 18, 2023 9:38:18 GMT -5
This is so interesting. :tweet: The way Lover has like three solid smash hits in the real world. Really crazy Well, there definitely are some asterisks to these numbers. The first one is the obvious one: the further back in her discography you go, the more Spotify becomes less prevalent, generally resulting in lower numbers anyway. Lover was released firmly in the streaming age versus 1989 being released in that transitionary period between digital sales and streaming, for example. But the other asterisk is probably the most important one: Taylor's music wasn't available on Spotify between late 2014 and mid 2017, hindering everything pre- reputation. ("I Don't Wanna Live Forever" was always available, though, which explains why it's so high.) So, comparatively, those Lover tracks would look relatively week compared to her other hits if they were on Spotify in the peak streaming era for their entire existences. That being said, the streaming numbers for her Lover hits is still very impressive (particularly the title track) given how none of them were really big or anything. (Crazy how "Cruel Summer" absolutely already feels bigger than the other four singles and we're not even close to its run being over.) "You Need to Calm Down" is the only one that really feels like it should have decently high streaming numbers given how it did have a mini viral moment upon release. Anyway, if you found that interesting, here you go: (everything over 400 million) {top tracks}I Don't Wanna Live Forever 1,424,118,294 Blank Space 1,343,239,130 Shake It Off 1,106,994,515 Anti-Hero 986,786,999 Look What You Made Me Do 896,540,358 Lover 874,309,601 cardigan 801,355,415 Wildest Dreams 778,162,529 Style 773,580,146 Cruel Summer 772,695,863 You Need to Calm Down 756,319,147 ME! 751,931,884 Love Story 735,816,595 Delicate 731,372,538 I Knew You Were Trouble. 690,541,600 Don't Blame Me 676,306,580 willow 617,634,909 Enchanted 614,730,000 august 599,013,056 We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together 583,891,297 All Too Well (10 Minute Version) 578,912,725 exile 561,533,055 You Belong with Me 534,147,056 The Man 518,084,835 ...Ready for It? 510,347,447 Lavender Haze 482,832,792 Bad Blood 457,643,267 Paper Rings 441,985,872 Gorgeous 441,685,225 Love Story (TV) 430,648,069 Midnight Rain 427,981,247 Wildest Dreams (TV) 423,499,072 champagne problems 420,906,633 Getaway Car 419,082,924 the 1 404,707,016 Blank Space should be taking the #1 position very soon. Crazy to think that had it not been for the removal of her stuff from Spotify back in the day, Blank Space may actually be over 2 billion, perhaps 2.5 bill?
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Post by Future Captain on Jul 18, 2023 23:54:19 GMT -5
By the end of 2023, Anti-Hero, Lover, Cardigan, and Cruel Summer should either already hit or is very close to 1 billion. There's also Wildest Dreams and Love Story, which have 1,2 billion and 1,16 billion combined.
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Post by suburbandreams on Jul 19, 2023 1:03:01 GMT -5
I would actually be very curious to know how much work was already underway for Lover Fest before it got canceled. She initially "postponed" them in April 2020, when she hypothetically would have had over 2 months before the first show of the tour and over 3 months to Lover Fest West Coast dates. What was on her setlist? Who were going to be the opening acts and guests for the US shows (which were branded as "Taylor Swift and Friends")? Was it going to be a more laid back tour like the City of Lover show? The one production element that we do have a rough idea of is the stage design: ![](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGzXa0RVAAA6lSq.jpg) I think the stage design and the reduced amount of dates suggest that it was going to be a significantly more laid back tour than reputation or lover. The stage stage design means that she wouldn't have a big screen on the stage to use for visuals. It also wouldn't make sense to invest heavily in visuals for a tour that only four American dates. I think it would have been a more like typical festival performance. She would have had miminal costume changes , some dancers and a good number of songs she plays on the guitar or the piano. I think lover would have well suited for such an environment. I think that Miss Americana into Cruel Summer was the intended opening songs. Her Eras Lover outfit is Verscae which was the designer she was wearing for most of her lover era red carpet events. I think there is a high chance that her o.g. loverfest outfit was her eras outfit or something pretty similar .
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 7:57:47 GMT -5
This is so interesting. :tweet: The way Lover has like three solid smash hits in the real world. Really crazy Well, there definitely are some asterisks to these numbers. The first one is the obvious one: the further back in her discography you go, the more Spotify becomes less prevalent, generally resulting in lower numbers anyway. Lover was released firmly in the streaming age versus 1989 being released in that transitionary period between digital sales and streaming, for example. But the other asterisk is probably the most important one: Taylor's music wasn't available on Spotify between late 2014 and mid 2017, hindering everything pre- reputation. ("I Don't Wanna Live Forever" was always available, though, which explains why it's so high.) So, comparatively, those Lover tracks would look relatively week compared to her other hits if they were on Spotify in the peak streaming era for their entire existences. That being said, the streaming numbers for her Lover hits is still very impressive (particularly the title track) given how none of them were really big or anything. (Crazy how "Cruel Summer" absolutely already feels bigger than the other four singles and we're not even close to its run being over.) "You Need to Calm Down" is the only one that really feels like it should have decently high streaming numbers given how it did have a mini viral moment upon release. Anyway, if you found that interesting, here you go: (everything over 400 million) {top tracks}I Don't Wanna Live Forever 1,424,118,294 Blank Space 1,343,239,130 Shake It Off 1,106,994,515 Anti-Hero 986,786,999 Look What You Made Me Do 896,540,358 Lover 874,309,601 cardigan 801,355,415 Wildest Dreams 778,162,529 Style 773,580,146 Cruel Summer 772,695,863 You Need to Calm Down 756,319,147 ME! 751,931,884 Love Story 735,816,595 Delicate 731,372,538 I Knew You Were Trouble. 690,541,600 Don't Blame Me 676,306,580 willow 617,634,909 Enchanted 614,730,000 august 599,013,056 We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together 583,891,297 All Too Well (10 Minute Version) 578,912,725 exile 561,533,055 You Belong with Me 534,147,056 The Man 518,084,835 ...Ready for It? 510,347,447 Lavender Haze 482,832,792 Bad Blood 457,643,267 Paper Rings 441,985,872 Gorgeous 441,685,225 Love Story (TV) 430,648,069 Midnight Rain 427,981,247 Wildest Dreams (TV) 423,499,072 champagne problems 420,906,633 Getaway Car 419,082,924 the 1 404,707,016 Blank Space should be taking the #1 position very soon. Crazy to think that had it not been for the removal of her stuff from Spotify back in the day, Blank Space may actually be over 2 billion, perhaps 2.5 bill? No asterisk needed imo. Numbers are numbers and regardless of whether her older songs would have more streams or not, you won’t be able to convince me Lover doesn’t have three hits. My opinion of that isn't based on the positions or how they did comparatively to her other hits but rather the number of US streams and the fact that the three songs i'm talking about are still gaining fast. I’m well aware of her Spotify numbers but this is more interesting because its about overall US streams across all platforms including YT. Lover is almost six time platinum and has around six multi-platinum eligible songs. A smash album and a smash single era
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Post by Choco on Jul 19, 2023 9:31:12 GMT -5
Yeah I understand the argument but her old hits potentially being higher if Spotify was available back then doesn't discount the fact that the Lover numbers would be career highs for almost everyone else.
Like, her most recent closest competition were Adele (30 was a big of a letdown) and Drake (clearly still big but on a downward trend). No one is currently doing it like her. The Weeknd and Ariana stream really well but I don't feel like they're on the same level; Beyoncé is still a big deal on social media but her numbers aren't astounding otherwise.
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Post by musiclife on Jul 20, 2023 2:30:01 GMT -5
I wonder if they're holding out on certifying this 5x or 6x times platinum until grammy voting starts.
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 20, 2023 6:09:49 GMT -5
Just got tickets for Dublin too! Karma Is My Boyfriend VIP Package was all that was left so I said yolo. Brb while I take out a mortgage
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Jul 20, 2023 7:47:06 GMT -5
You are but a small island nation. Why am I having such trouble getting tickets?! First show I was 40,000 in the queue. Second one was 42,000. Ugh fingers crossed for round three. Obv the 800 euro VIP was available but I suppose that'll be my last resort. Help me, ghost whisperer!!!
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 20, 2023 9:29:37 GMT -5
You are but a small island nation. Why am I having such trouble getting tickets?! First show I was 40,000 in the queue. Second one was 42,000. Ugh fingers crossed for round three. Obv the 800 euro VIP was available but I suppose that'll be my last resort. Help me, ghost whisperer!!! A lot of people are probably thinking the same! “Ireland is small, I’ll try for tickets there”. I was 28,000 at the 11am Friday show. It took me 40 minutes to get in and everything was sold out, so I said screw it and went for the expensive one. Money is there to be spent if you can afford it! Best of luck
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Jul 20, 2023 10:04:41 GMT -5
I said screw it, too. Got the "love story" package (I think). I don't care. It's the yellow "general admission standing room only" section, which, as a full grown adult male, I imagine the views should be ok?? Either way.... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! June 30!
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 20, 2023 10:07:26 GMT -5
I said screw it, too. Got the "love story" package (I think). I don't care. It's the yellow "general admission standing room only" section, which, as a full grown adult male, I imagine the views should be ok?? Either way.... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! June 30! Congrats!! I am “front standing blue route g”, whatever that means. Where are you traveling from?
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Jul 20, 2023 10:10:46 GMT -5
I said screw it, too. Got the "love story" package (I think). I don't care. It's the yellow "general admission standing room only" section, which, as a full grown adult male, I imagine the views should be ok?? Either way.... !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! June 30! Congrats!! I am “front standing blue route g”, whatever that means. Where are you traveling from? From the States (Pennsylvania to be exact). But I go to Dublin quite a bit as my best friend lives there... oddly enough next to Croke Park where she performed last time she was in Dublin. We sat outside his house and listened :) Full circle moment now haha
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jul 20, 2023 10:25:21 GMT -5
Hearing “The Archer” at the outdoor shopping block that usually only plays hits and singles, I’m convinced all of Taylor’s songs will be game for general play anywhere and everywhere.
I wondered if I should have tried to get tickets to a european date and make a full trip out of it next year. 🥵
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Post by joshtheking on Jul 20, 2023 10:28:06 GMT -5
Registered for Dublin too but never even got moved off the waiting list :'( just hoping she adds more dates
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 20, 2023 10:50:03 GMT -5
Registered for Dublin too but never even got moved off the waiting list :'( just hoping she adds more dates Apparently the VIP packages aren’t selling out at all in Dublin or the UK so don’t worry yet!
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Post by austinwashere on Jul 20, 2023 11:57:08 GMT -5
I hate Ticketmaster with every fiber of my being. Tried for Dublin and all I got were VIP options (I can’t spend that for where there were). Everyone that got tickets I hope you guys have the times of your lives!! She simply is the music industry. Hoping I can get some down the road but we shall see.
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Post by Ace on Jul 20, 2023 13:00:44 GMT -5
I was in the waiting room for all 3 Dublin shows on the dot at their respective on-sale times and still ended up #70,000 in the queue all 3 times. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Soooo my friend and I said screw f*ck it and bought the floor VIP tix...I have been like this all day in spite of being up since 5:30am: ![:w00t:](//storage.proboards.com/1258812/images/mWMexgUrAkvySfdnXQAL.gif) Congrats!! I am “front standing blue route g”, whatever that means. Where are you traveling from? Same here!
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 20, 2023 13:12:55 GMT -5
I was in the waiting room for all 3 Dublin shows on the dot at their respective on-sale times and still ended up #70,000 in the queue all 3 times. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Soooo my friend and I said screw f*ck it and bought the floor VIP tix...I have been like this all day in spite of being up since 5:30am: ![:w00t:](//storage.proboards.com/1258812/images/mWMexgUrAkvySfdnXQAL.gif) Congrats!! I am “front standing blue route g”, whatever that means. Where are you traveling from? Same here! Which night are you going to?
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Post by Ace on Jul 20, 2023 13:19:17 GMT -5
Which night are you going to? Sunday! My friend and I haven't been to Ireland so think we're gonna make a week of it, may as well explore a bit!
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 20, 2023 13:46:21 GMT -5
Which night are you going to? Sunday! My friend and I haven't been to Ireland so think we're gonna make a week of it, may as well explore a bit! Ah, I'm Friday! Ireland is very small so you could explore all of it in a week. There are five cities in the Republic and two (real) in Northern Ireland, plus two rural counties you'd want to visit. If you can, fly into Dublin but go straight south to Waterford City and then you just need to operate clockwise around the coast Sunday: Arrive in Dublin Airport, train to Waterford CityMonday: Bus to Cork CityTuesday: Train to County Kerry and bus to Limerick CityWednesday: Bus to Cliffs of Moher and bus to Galway CityThursday: Bus/drive to County Donegal and then Derry City in Northern Ireland Friday: Train to Belfast CitySaturday: Train to Dublin CitySunday: Concert in Dublin City, fly home If you have any questions about where to stay or how to get around, feel free to DM me ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by justlurkingaround on Jul 20, 2023 14:55:58 GMT -5
I decided to go for it for the Dublin dates, was aiming for Sunday, but was 20,000th in line and when I got in, only the VIP packages were available. I've already been to two Philly shows, and have 3 European shows lined up so I didn't want to spend that kind of money, but I think I'd still be down for an Ireland trip in June!
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 20, 2023 15:02:41 GMT -5
If everyone is coming to Ireland that weekend, we can do a little Pulse meetup
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Post by Dylan :) on Jul 20, 2023 15:17:39 GMT -5
It's finally done!
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Post by 85la on Jul 20, 2023 18:17:57 GMT -5
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Post by justlurkingaround on Jul 20, 2023 18:32:43 GMT -5
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