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Post by artistry on Nov 2, 2022 0:04:23 GMT -5
Yeah, even if She Likes It isn’t that good, it’s not a song worth making another phi out of. Obviously its not worth being annoying over, but She Likes It is terrible tbh. My biggest worry is that it'll kick Thinking Bout You out of the year end list. I would like for Billboard to not include songs that haven't reached the top 50 in the Hot 100 year end chart. Left and Right which peaked at #22 feels like the bigger hit than She Likes It which just had more longevity in the bottom half due to country radio. |
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 2, 2022 6:42:10 GMT -5
Obviously its not worth being annoying over, but She Likes It is terrible tbh. My biggest worry is that it'll kick Thinking Bout You out of the year end list. I would like for Billboard to not include songs that haven't reached the top 50 in the Hot 100 year end chart. Left and Right which peaked at #22 feels like the bigger hit than She Likes It which just had more longevity in the bottom half due to country radio. May as well just remove country from the Hot 100 then huh? |
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Post by mms82 on Nov 2, 2022 8:28:13 GMT -5
I would like for Billboard to not include songs that haven't reached the top 50 in the Hot 100 year end chart. Left and Right which peaked at #22 feels like the bigger hit than She Likes It which just had more longevity in the bottom half due to country radio. May as well just remove country from the Hot 100 then huh? yeah what? like a song’s peak doesn’t correlate to success (what’s a bigger song, Life Goes on by BTS (#1 peak) or Radioactive (#3 peak) Or an example that fits you, El Perdon and One Too Many were both bigger hits, more legacy, and higher year end placements than Trollz despite the first two not peaking in the top 50 while Trollz went number one This will just stupidly hurt slow burn hits of non pop genres that are probably bigger songs in the end |
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 2, 2022 8:33:23 GMT -5
I do think these country songs are a bit different just because country radio currently hangs onto songs for so long, but yeah not advocating for some rule about year-end charts.
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Post by Groovy on Nov 2, 2022 9:11:01 GMT -5
Kinda random but I would not be shocked if Anti Hero topped the 2023 YE, it’s streaming is strong and it’s backed up by a strong radio push.
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Post by mms82 on Nov 2, 2022 9:16:42 GMT -5
Kinda random but I would not be shocked if Anti Hero topped the 2023 YE, it’s streaming is strong and it’s backed up by a strong radio push. I know the year end starts around November, do the Anti Hero weeks all count for 2023 YE? |
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Post by Groovy on Nov 2, 2022 9:22:38 GMT -5
Kinda random but I would not be shocked if Anti Hero topped the 2023 YE, it’s streaming is strong and it’s backed up by a strong radio push. I know the year end starts around November, do the Anti Hero weeks all count for 2023 YE? No, we're still in the 2022 until after next week. |
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Post by joshtheking on Nov 2, 2022 9:51:24 GMT -5
Kinda random but I would not be shocked if Anti Hero topped the 2023 YE, it’s streaming is strong and it’s backed up by a strong radio push. That would be cool but I sadly doubt it. If anything I kinda see it having a similar run to Thank U Next |
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Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Nov 2, 2022 10:09:01 GMT -5
I really doubt it, but at least it has the potential to be her biggest song since Blank Space (or Bad Blood), which is a huge deal.
peak weeks t10
Style #6 9
Wild Drem #5 9
Bad Blood #1(1) 13
IDWLF #2 12
LWYMMD #1(3) 8
ME! #2 4
Yes, the streaming is good, but we're only in the 2nd week and I don't expect another 30M, maybe I'm wrong.
also, waaay to early to talk about this😂
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Post by Choco on Nov 2, 2022 11:08:11 GMT -5
I think worst case scenario, it's her biggest radio hit since YNTCD back in 2019, and biggest Hot 100 hit since Bad Blood.
But she has never had the legs to top a year end chart. And by March she'll probably be on a new album era (Speak Now TV).
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Post by mms82 on Nov 2, 2022 11:32:15 GMT -5
I really doubt it, but at least it has the potential to be her biggest song since Blank Space (or Bad Blood), which is a huge deal. peak weeks t10 Style #6 9 Wild Drem #5 9 Bad Blood #1(1) 13 IDWLF #2 12 LWYMMD #1(3) 8 ME! #2 4 Yes, the streaming is good, but we're only in the 2nd week and I don't expect another 30M, maybe I'm wrong. also, waaay to early to talk about this😂 How do these relate with chart points? |
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Post by mms82 on Nov 2, 2022 12:01:46 GMT -5
was Tay's last radio #1 LWYMMD? Kind of wild her fall of on radio since then (although it looks like Anti-Hero might change some of that trajectory)
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Post by Choco on Nov 2, 2022 12:53:15 GMT -5
was Tay's last radio #1 LWYMMD? Kind of wild her fall of on radio since then (although it looks like Anti-Hero might change some of that trajectory) Her last #1 on Pop radio was Delicate. Not sure where LWYMMD peaked on overall radio before it's catastrophic decreases but that also reached #1 on Pop first. Lover yielded two more top 10 hits and she hasn't visited the region since. |
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Post by iHype. on Nov 2, 2022 13:04:47 GMT -5
I just realized she went the entirety of 2022 without doing any TVs. The releases of them are being so randomly done and seem more like hassles at this point lol.
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Post by renaboss on Nov 2, 2022 13:14:29 GMT -5
was Tay's last radio #1 LWYMMD? Kind of wild her fall of on radio since then (although it looks like Anti-Hero might change some of that trajectory) Her last #1 on Pop radio was Delicate. Not sure where LWYMMD peaked on overall radio before it's catastrophic decreases but that also reached #1 on Pop first. Lover yielded two more top 10 hits and she hasn't visited the region since. LWYMMD peaked at #5 on Radio Songs, "Delicate" at #2, "ME!" at #7 and that was her last top 10 on overall radio so far. |
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Post by mms82 on Nov 2, 2022 13:57:14 GMT -5
I hope Anti-Hero goes #1 on radio songs, she seems like such a radio staple that it’s kind of weird that Taylor popularity era 3.0 hasn’t spawned any radio attention
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Post by mms82 on Nov 2, 2022 13:58:10 GMT -5
did Message In The Bottle chart on Radio Songs for someone with a Billboard subscription?
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 2, 2022 15:29:29 GMT -5
^No Billboard subscription is required to check this. I see its peak on the chart with that song was #29.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Nov 2, 2022 15:34:12 GMT -5
I just realized she went the entirety of 2022 without doing any TVs. The releases of them are being so randomly done and seem more like hassles at this point lol. with her all but confirming SpeakNowTV is next and her tour spanning all her music… there’s a good chance we get them all before March |
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Post by fridayteenage on Nov 2, 2022 16:09:25 GMT -5
Eh, she can just perform one song from each unowned album and release those. We already have two from 1989.
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Post by jayhawk1117 on Nov 2, 2022 16:18:47 GMT -5
Yeah but that feels unnecessarily restrictive and not super different from what a normal Taylor concert is with a handful of older songs plus the current era.
Could go either way I guess
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Post by mms82 on Nov 2, 2022 16:40:00 GMT -5
I just realized she went the entirety of 2022 without doing any TVs. The releases of them are being so randomly done and seem more like hassles at this point lol. with her all but confirming SpeakNowTV is next and her tour spanning all her music… there’s a good chance we get them all before March Given that they all had huge hype and preorders I doubt she’ll release them all in the next three months - she’s going at a much slower pace than anyone anticipated and I bet it’ll be drawn out til 2024 with a 2 TV / 1 New material / 2 TV / new material cadence |
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Post by fridayteenage on Nov 2, 2022 18:06:35 GMT -5
Yeah but that feels unnecessarily restrictive and not super different from what a normal Taylor concert is with a handful of older songs plus the current era. Could go either way I guess Well she has unlimited choices from six albums, and two choices from 1989. That would give her not much restriction. If she avgs two songs per album and some get one, it's not a big chasm between albums |
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Post by mms82 on Nov 2, 2022 18:15:58 GMT -5
Yeah but that feels unnecessarily restrictive and not super different from what a normal Taylor concert is with a handful of older songs plus the current era. Could go either way I guess Well she has unlimited choices from six albums, and two choices from 1989. That would give her not much restriction. If she avgs two songs per album and some get one, it's not a big chasm between albums also, nothing is stopping her from dropping loosies from the respective albums as well |
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Post by mms82 on Nov 2, 2022 18:16:58 GMT -5
I bet she's going to make sure she gets a number one with Debut (TV) to avenge her non-#1 on that album and the only way to do that would be to not saturate the market
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Post by firefox on Nov 2, 2022 20:58:23 GMT -5
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Post by mms82 on Nov 2, 2022 21:54:04 GMT -5
Bailey Zimmerman has had two songs next to each other for a while now - that’s an absurd fun fact that I doubt happened to this extent (beyond maybe like the Black Eyed Peas having #1 and #2 on the chart for a while)
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Post by mms82 on Nov 3, 2022 9:45:56 GMT -5
with the end of this thread - where does Midnights stack up among Album bombs? Is it the biggest of all time? Do CLB or Scorpion still claim that title? Does Red TV claim that title with the most debuts?
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Post by weaver on Nov 3, 2022 20:28:27 GMT -5
with the end of this thread - where does Midnights stack up among Album bombs? Is it the biggest of all time? Do CLB or Scorpion still claim that title? Does Red TV claim that title with the most debuts? Well..I'm no album bomb expert...actually I find them to be odd and disruptive to the chart, leading to all sorts of discussions about where x song would be without the album bomb. Seems like Midnights is a pretty big one, what with snagging the entire top 10 and all. Maybe it's a weak top of the chart right now, and that's part of the reason for this amazing accomplishment? With that said..I've given the album a few curiosity spins and...meh? I'm not a HUGE Taylor fan but I like a lot of her poppier stuff, so I was expecting to enjoy this one. Maybe I need to absorb the vibe a bit more but eve Anti-Hero, which seems to be shaping up to be the de-facto lead single, isn't very exciting to me. It doesn't really develop or go anywhere. It's just a consistent mood with not a lot of dynamics to it. Pleasant, but the top of the heap of a giant album bomb? Maybe I'm getting old - I'm ancient in pop music years - but I kinda...don't get the hype. |
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Post by Gary on Nov 3, 2022 20:31:40 GMT -5
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