jenglisbe
Diamond Member
Joined: January 2005
Posts: 35,654
|
Post by jenglisbe on Nov 1, 2022 18:27:13 GMT -5
You mean to tell me that Rihanna could’ve scored her 15th #1, even if it were a weak one, had it not been for streaming falling over the last few days. Yes, it could have been #1 if it was popular. It's wild to me it could be #2 as it doesn't feel that popular at all. Its streaming eroded quickly, and while radio may be a different audience, it also feels like this crazy start at radio is just off initial hype/promo. I'm interested to see how it holds up at radio next week. |
|
|
|
Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 1, 2022 18:50:14 GMT -5
Tuesday, November 1, 2022
Rihanna has broken the record for all-format radio adds at Mediabase with an astounding 519, thanks to her Black Panther: Wakanda Forever song, "Lift Me Up" (Roc Nation/Def Jam/Hollywood). The track was #1 Most Added at six formats: Pop, AC, Hot AC, Rhythm, Urban and R&B. The prior champ was the mighty Adele, whose 2021 smash "Easy on Me" (Columbia) racked up 451 adds in its first week. Def Jam's Noah Sheer and Natina Nimene, Roc Nation's Lester Pace and their teams are putting on their spandex superhero outfits right now.
|
|
jayhawk1117
2x Platinum Member
Joined: July 2013
Posts: 2,758 
|
Post by jayhawk1117 on Nov 1, 2022 18:50:53 GMT -5
You mean to tell me that Rihanna could’ve scored her 15th #1, even if it were a weak one, had it not been for streaming falling over the last few days. Yes, it could have been #1 if it was popular. It's wild to me it could be #2 as it doesn't feel that popular at all. Its streaming eroded quickly, and while radio may be a different audience, it also feels like this crazy start at radio is just off initial hype/promo. I'm interested to see how it holds up at radio next week. classic tale of radio putting in WORK. |
|
WolfSpear
Gold Member
Joined: March 2012
Posts: 898
|
Post by WolfSpear on Nov 1, 2022 20:51:18 GMT -5
Hmm… I heard that song on the radio yesterday. I didn’t think it was all that bad, but it doesn’t strike me as a #1. Maybe I’ll come back to it and see if it sticks more. Curious to see how much movement will take place in the top 10… if any. Michael Jackson’s “Black Or White” topped the Top 40 Radio Monitor/Hot 100 Airplay charts in 1991 with 75M listener impressions and that was the then record. It was the first song to be added to over 200 Top 40 radio stations across the United States, 227 out of 237. It was also the first song to be heard by over 70M listeners. Although said 79M AI figure is low, I’m not sure if its fair to compare “Bad Habits” to it as the Airplay charts only had 75 ranking positions then and were solely ‘Pop/AC’ based. Also, this was 1991/1992, not 2022. •Fun Fact•: The first song to cross 80M AI was Houston’s “I Will Always Love You”. The first song to cross 90M AI was Donna Lewis’ “I Love You, Always Forever”. That’s pretty interesting because I had no idea. You’re right, the airplay panel was basically Mainstream Top 40 until they added AC in 1993. Curious what the high end for impressions on MT40 is. I would assume “We Belong Together” owns that record, given it was MASSIVE on the radio and crossed a number of formats. |
|
85la
3x Platinum Member
Joined: July 2007
Posts: 3,921
|
Post by 85la on Nov 1, 2022 22:28:13 GMT -5
Hmm… I heard that song on the radio yesterday. I didn’t think it was all that bad, but it doesn’t strike me as a #1. Maybe I’ll come back to it and see if it sticks more. Curious to see how much movement will take place in the top 10… if any. Michael Jackson’s “Black Or White” topped the Top 40 Radio Monitor/Hot 100 Airplay charts in 1991 with 75M listener impressions and that was the then record. It was the first song to be added to over 200 Top 40 radio stations across the United States, 227 out of 237. It was also the first song to be heard by over 70M listeners. Although said 79M AI figure is low, I’m not sure if its fair to compare “Bad Habits” to it as the Airplay charts only had 75 ranking positions then and were solely ‘Pop/AC’ based. Also, this was 1991/1992, not 2022. •Fun Fact•: The first song to cross 80M AI was Houston’s “I Will Always Love You”. The first song to cross 90M AI was Donna Lewis’ “I Love You, Always Forever”. That’s pretty interesting because I had no idea. You’re right, the airplay panel was basically Mainstream Top 40 until they added AC in 1993. Curious what the high end for impressions on MT40 is. I would assume “We Belong Together” owns that record, given it was MASSIVE on the radio and crossed a number of formats. I'm thinking more when radio audiences peaked in the early 2010s, so maybe something by Katy Perry, or Blurred Lines? |
|
fridayteenage
5x Platinum Member
Shake it Off
Joined: April 2008
Posts: 5,493
|
Post by fridayteenage on Nov 2, 2022 0:27:19 GMT -5
damn, bejeweled is #2 on apple.
feels weird that it's sitting only at #10 on spotify.
Taylor has 5 of the top 7 on apple rn.
|
|
jodakyellow
Platinum Member
Joined: July 2018
Posts: 1,536
|
Post by jodakyellow on Nov 2, 2022 1:01:13 GMT -5
I'm thinking more when radio audiences peaked in the early 2010s, so maybe something by Katy Perry, or Blurred Lines? The record audience on the Billboard Radio Songs chart is indeed held by “Blurred Lines!” |
|
dremolus - solarpunk
Diamond Member
𝙁𝙧𝙤𝙢 𝙋𝙖𝙡𝙚𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙣𝙚 𝙩𝙤 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙋𝙃, 𝙎𝙩𝙤𝙥 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙐.𝙎. 𝙒𝙖𝙧 𝙈𝙖𝙘𝙝𝙞𝙣𝙚
Joined: August 2019
Posts: 13,328
My Reviews
Pronouns: (he/him/they)
|
Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 2, 2022 1:05:08 GMT -5
Given Anti-Hero is getting a proper pop push, I'm curious if Taylor will have a second single from Midnights. Aside from Anti-Hero, the poppiest songs are Bejeweled, Karma, Question...?, and maybe You're Own Your Own Kid
|
|
𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤
9x Platinum Member
Justice for Georgia Leah Moses: https://www.georgialeahmoses.com
Joined: January 2019
Posts: 9,268 
My Charts
Pronouns: she/they
|
Post by 𝕡𝕙𝕖𝕖𝕓𝕤 on Nov 2, 2022 3:19:50 GMT -5
^ if we're going off what stations are responding to the best, its Lavender Haze & Bejeweled. I definitely wouldn't be surprised if she made Karma a single at one point, though
|
|
Darkest Hour
Diamond Member
album listener
Joined: January 2017
Posts: 15,881
|
Post by Darkest Hour on Nov 2, 2022 7:35:22 GMT -5
Three Christmas songs re-entered US Spotify yesterday:
53 All I Want for Christmas Is You (500,444 streams)
128 Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree (293,731 streams)
170 Jingle Bell Rock (256,927 streams)
|
|
|
|
Post by imbuemyblue on Nov 2, 2022 7:52:37 GMT -5
^ if we're going off what stations are responding to the best, its Lavender Haze & Bejeweled. I definitely wouldn't be surprised if she made Karma a single at one point, though Yeah, 'Lavender Haze' seems like the next choice; people are responding to it really well and it's sonically different/interesting for her so I'm sure she loves the track. 'Karma' is probably my least favorite track (and the most reductive) but it does seem like a missed opportunity for memes/tik toks or whatever. |
|
jenglisbe
Diamond Member
Joined: January 2005
Posts: 35,654
|
Post by jenglisbe on Nov 2, 2022 7:59:11 GMT -5
I wish the Holiday Songs chart started with the week that includes Halloween. It would be fun to see "Thriller" and others chart there, and the day after Halloween kicks off the Christmas season anyway so plenty of songs are getting some streams and even airplay.
|
|
jasper0102
2x Platinum Member
I CAN GET BY THE DAYS JUST FINE BUT THE NIGHTS
Joined: May 2022
Posts: 2,846
Pronouns: he/him
|
Post by jasper0102 on Nov 2, 2022 9:13:15 GMT -5
Three Christmas songs re-entered US Spotify yesterday: 53 All I Want for Christmas Is You (500,444 streams) 128 Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree (293,731 streams) 170 Jingle Bell Rock (256,927 streams) And so it begins. |
|
shayonce
2x Platinum Member
Joined: October 2008
Posts: 2,234
|
Post by shayonce on Nov 2, 2022 9:32:27 GMT -5
US AM Tuesday 11-01
1. (+2) Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero
2. Taylor Swift - Bejeweled
3. (+3) SZA - Shirt
4. (+3) Lil Baby - California Breeze
5. Taylor Swift - Levender Haze
28. (+2) Rihanna - Lift Me Up
42. (+5) Kodak Black - 300 Blackout
53. (=) Juice WRLD - In My Head
92. Mariah Carey - All I Want For Christmas Is You
17. Quavo & Takeoff - Hotel Lobby (Unc & Phew)
44. Takeoff - Last Memory
56. Migos - Bad and Boujee (feat. Lil Uzi Vert)
58. Takeoff - Casper
59. Quavo, Takeoff & YoungBoy Never Broke Again - To The Bone
64. Migos - Walk It Talk It (feat. Drake)
93. Quavo & Takeoff - Bars Into Captions
95. Migos, Nicki Minaj & Cardi B - MotorSport
Halloween Songs
36.(-35) Michael Jackson - Thriller
39. (-35) The Citizens of Halloween - This Is Halloween
40.(-38) Bobby "Boris" Pickett & The Crypt-Kickers - Monster Mash
49. (-44) Ray Parker Jr. - Ghostbusters
52. (-24) The Weeknd - Blinding Lights
87. (-69) Andrew Gold - Spooky, Scary Skeletons (Undead Tombstone Remix)
|
|
NeRD
Diamond Member
RIHANNA NAVY
Joined: March 2010
Posts: 15,304
|
Post by NeRD on Nov 2, 2022 9:52:58 GMT -5
Back of the envelope expectation-setting / prediction for this week:  rihanna's day 1 radio numbers are nuts. that being said, she needs continued radio growth and a strong streaming hold throughout the week to contend for #1. it's taylor's race to lose right now. Day 2 update. Probably the last one as I imagine Twitter predictors will start posting tomorrow.  Big updates: -Midnights still seeing a ~15% daily streaming drop, so lowered the projections for Anti-Hero (=) & Lavender Haze (-1) -Lift Me Up (-1) had a much more subdued day 2 on radio and streaming. Now projecting it to land in the #2-5 range. -Added Shirt by SZA, whose streaming held better than any recent debut on day 2. Projecting #5-6 but could do as well as #2 depending on Apple Music numbers. She now has the original and instrumental available on her website. How much would she need to sell there to make up the difference? EDIT: also are your numbers taking into account the new airplay metrics? |
|
shayonce
2x Platinum Member
Joined: October 2008
Posts: 2,234
|
Post by shayonce on Nov 2, 2022 10:05:24 GMT -5
looks like rihanna might get #1 finally. sale for song and instrumental is up on her website now. rihanna.store/ |
|
iHype.
4x Platinum Member
Joined: October 2014
Posts: 4,714
|
Post by iHype. on Nov 2, 2022 10:16:03 GMT -5
I doubt Rihanna has a rabid fan base that will brew up 25K+ more sales in under 2 days
|
|
Darkest Hour
Diamond Member
album listener
Joined: January 2017
Posts: 15,881
|
Post by Darkest Hour on Nov 2, 2022 10:18:36 GMT -5
I am not sure about that. Rihanna doesn't seem to have many stans that will buy the song from the website.
|
|
Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ
Diamond Member
Joined: August 2017
Posts: 11,073
|
Post by Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ on Nov 2, 2022 10:21:08 GMT -5
looks like rihanna might get #1 finally. sale for song and instrumental is up on her website now. rihanna.store/Don't see that happening, it's too far from the #1. |
|
kierz7
2x Platinum Member
Joined: June 2018
Posts: 2,642
|
Post by kierz7 on Nov 2, 2022 10:22:05 GMT -5
Three Christmas songs re-entered US Spotify yesterday: 53 All I Want for Christmas Is You (500,444 streams) 128 Rockin' Around The Christmas Tree (293,731 streams) 170 Jingle Bell Rock (256,927 streams) Already? 💀 PRAYING that Brenda Lee snatches at least a week at #1 this year. |
|
Choco
Diamond Member
james dean daydream
Joined: February 2009
Posts: 27,985
My Charts
Pronouns: he/him
|
Post by Choco on Nov 2, 2022 11:11:14 GMT -5
I can't wait for "Lift Me Up (Holiday remix) (ft. Megan thee Stallion)" and "Lift Me Up (long pond sessions)".
|
|
85la
3x Platinum Member
Joined: July 2007
Posts: 3,921
|
Post by 85la on Nov 2, 2022 11:14:27 GMT -5
I'm thinking more when radio audiences peaked in the early 2010s, so maybe something by Katy Perry, or Blurred Lines? The record audience on the Billboard Radio Songs chart is indeed held by “Blurred Lines!” Right, we were wondering specifically about the Mainstream Top 40/Pop Airplay chart though, which I wasn't able to find. I think some songs topped 100 million AI there. |
|
|
|
Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Nov 2, 2022 11:48:25 GMT -5
kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2022 » / « 11 » / « 02 »
1(=) Harry Styles - As It Was 82.05(-0.73)
2(=) Nicky Youre & Dazy - Sunroof 75.10(-0.09)
3(=) Steve Lacy - Bad Habit 74.80(+0.12)
4(=) Post Malone - I Like You (A Happier Song) [feat. Doja Cat] 72.80(-1.18)
5(=) Doja Cat - Vegas (From the Original Motion Picture Soundtrack ELVIS) 67.48(-0.31) 6(=) Sia - Unstoppable 64.81(-0.00)
7(=) OneRepublic - I Ain't Worried 61.25(-0.76)
8(=) Nicki Minaj - Super Freaky Girl 58.08(+1.19)
9(=) Lizzo - About Damn Time 55.52(-0.69)
10(=) Harry Styles - Late Night Talking 55.15(-0.43)
12(+4) Rihanna - Lift Me Up (From Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - Music From and Inspired By) 50.34(+5.52) 14(-1) Sam Smith & Kim Petras - Unholy 47.25(+1.67)
17(+3) Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero 44.22(+1.63)
27(+1) Beyoncé - CUFF IT 35.69(+0.76)
34(+1) The Weeknd - Die For You 32.31(+0.65) -(-) Blink-182 - EDGING 8.33(+0.68) + -(-) Prince Royce/nicky Jam/wheeler - Si Te Preguntan... 6.14(+0.62)
|
|
fridayteenage
5x Platinum Member
Shake it Off
Joined: April 2008
Posts: 5,493
|
Post by fridayteenage on Nov 2, 2022 12:03:42 GMT -5
looks like rihanna might get #1 finally. sale for song and instrumental is up on her website now. rihanna.store/finally? because she's tried so many times unsuccessfully...? |
|
kierz7
2x Platinum Member
Joined: June 2018
Posts: 2,642
|
Post by kierz7 on Nov 2, 2022 12:16:14 GMT -5
The record audience on the Billboard Radio Songs chart is indeed held by “Blurred Lines!” Right, we were wondering specifically about the Mainstream Top 40/Pop Airplay chart though, which I wasn't able to find. I think some songs topped 100 million AI there. Ed Sheeran’s “Shape Of You” holds the record for the song with the most listener impressions on Pop radio - 132M AI as per Mediabase. It also holds the spins record on Pop too. (With radio being where it is now, I don’t see this ever changing). Other songs that broke 120M AI on Pop radio: 1) Closer - 127M 2) Hello - 124M 3) See You Again - 123M 4) Cheap Thrills - 122M 5) Uptown Funk - 120M Audience records on Pop radio clearly peaked between 2015-2017. For the 2000’s, I believe the song with the most listener impressions on Pop radio was Avril Lavigne’s “Complicated” with 90M AI and this was in 2002. |
|
enwhy
Gold Member
Joined: January 2021
Posts: 642
Pronouns: he/him
|
Post by enwhy on Nov 2, 2022 13:15:50 GMT -5
There's more uncertainty than usual this week because no one knows how Billboard will handle the radio switch from Nielsen/Luminate to Mediabase. Arguably the simplest method would be to just plug in the new numbers without changing the formula. This would give all songs with substantial airplay a boost. Here's how it would impact Winston's prediction if you swap in Mediabase numbers:  All songs without significant radio would fall - namely, Taylor's album tracks and Shirt would all drop several spots. Vegas (22->12) and Sunroof (19->9) would see the biggest boosts, which makes sense seeing as they're the most radio-driven tracks right now. |
|
|
|
Post by ethansdelicate on Nov 2, 2022 13:24:57 GMT -5
nice to see taytay get another multi-week #1  |
|
|
|
Post by ethansdelicate on Nov 2, 2022 13:28:50 GMT -5
You mean to tell me that Rihanna could’ve scored her 15th #1, even if it were a weak one, had it not been for streaming falling over the last few days. Yes, it could have been #1 if it was popular. It's wild to me it could be #2 as it doesn't feel that popular at all. Its streaming eroded quickly, and while radio may be a different audience, it also feels like this crazy start at radio is just off initial hype/promo. I'm interested to see how it holds up at radio next week. yeah, out of the top 15 on both AM and Spotify is crazy... even on iTunes, the only place it had a lead, it's now been overtaken by Taylor too. The fact that it has similar radio adds to Easy On Me is just ridiculous... at least the general public was streaming EOM. |
|
kierz7
2x Platinum Member
Joined: June 2018
Posts: 2,642
|
Post by kierz7 on Nov 2, 2022 13:29:25 GMT -5
What in the world are “Sunproof” and “You Proof”?
LMFAO!
I feel so out of touch sometimes.
|
|
|
|
Post by ethansdelicate on Nov 2, 2022 13:33:03 GMT -5
What in the world are “Sunproof” and “You Proof”? LMFAO! I feel so out of touch sometimes. sunroof is another TikTok hit that got overpushed on radio (think every Doja single), you proof a huge country song |
|
