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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 11, 2022 22:02:21 GMT -5
Rose "Payola" Nylund Because Drake doesn't care about charts doesn't mean I also shouldn't care about it. I'm a chart watcher, who also happens to be a fan of an artist whose music does damage on the charts, so why won't I care about how that artist performs on said charts? I've been a Drake fan since 2008, when he was an unsigned artist and was still releasing mixtapes for free. I don't even understand the logic you're trying to form with your questions tbh. It's worth saying that if my posts about this particular topic upset you/if you don't care for them, you can always ignore them. I just don't like to see ANYONE manipulate the charts and that goes more for bigger acts who don't need to do that to be successful so yes, if/when Taylor or any other artist does so, I will express how I feel about that. That's really all there is to it.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 11, 2022 22:25:43 GMT -5
Well, then, jeng, people should be complaining that other acts aren't doing it, more so than complaining about ones who are. :)
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Post by atg on Nov 11, 2022 22:26:51 GMT -5
Honestly its fine if Drake doesn’t get the #1. You can technically use the “its a collab album so it wouldn’t perform as well as if it were one of his solo ones” excuse and still get away with it kinda.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 11, 2022 22:31:05 GMT -5
Rose "Payola" Nylund Because Drake doesn't care about charts doesn't mean I also shouldn't care about it. I'm a chart watcher, who also happens to be a fan of an artist whose music does damage on the charts, so why won't I care about how that artist performs on said charts? I've been a Drake fan since 2008, when he was an unsigned artist and was still releasing mixtapes for free. I don't even understand the logic you're trying to form with your questions tbh. It's worth saying that if my posts about this particular topic upset you/if you don't care for them, you can always ignore them. I just don't like to see ANYONE manipulate the charts and that goes more for bigger acts who don't need to do that to be successful so yes, if/when Taylor or any other artist does so, I will express how I feel about that. That's really all there is to it. Idk, I guess I’ve just been confused as to why Drake not caring about charts kept being mentioned as a badge of honour as if it changed anything.
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Post by 85la on Nov 12, 2022 0:42:21 GMT -5
Wow, the good thing about this is that if she does end up selling this much, they will 100% be closing this loophole.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 12, 2022 0:44:57 GMT -5
US Spotify - 11/10/22
Drake and 21 Savage - HER LOSS 1(=) Rich Flex 2,692,245 (-172,563) 3(=) Major Distribution 1,655,137 (-234,092) 4(=) Pussy & Millions 1,619,552 (-170,398) 5(=) On BS 1,367,944 (-170,237) 9(-3) Spit Bout U 1,227,411 (-151,542) 11(-3) Circo Loco 1,191,201 (-140,984) 12(-3) Privileged Rappers 1,171,567 (-153,671) 17(-4) Broke Boys 1,060,579 (-129,773) 19(-4) BackOutsideBoyz 1,023,658 (-143,321) 26(-5) Hours In Silence 867,596 (-117,998) 32(-5) Jumbotron Shit Poppin 776,233 (-91,802) 35(-6) Treacherous Twins 721,147 (-109,857) 37(-5) Middle of the Ocean 706,737 (-106,459) 38(-3) More M's 693,928 (-89,931) 53(-8) I Guess It's Fuck Me 518,179 (-81,341) 66(-11) 3AM on Glenwood 446,549 (-71,167) Total Streams: 17,739,663 (-11%)
Taylor Swift - Midnights 2(=) Anti-Hero 2,063,216 (-53,340) 6(+1) Midnight Rain 1,311,162 (-26,878) 7(+3) Lavender Haze 1,293,985 (-16,815) 13(+1) Maroon 1,148,629 (-35,957) 14(+2) Karma 1,138,882 (-17,622) 15(+2) You're On Your Own, Kid 1,086,883 (-25,727) 16(+2) Bejeweled 1,077,406 (-20,026) 18(+1) Snow on the Beach 1,027,906 (-30,432) 22(+2) Vigilante Shit 909,452 (-23,046) 24(+1) Question...? 883,325 (-27,858) 28(+2) Mastermind 806,535 (-22,849) 34(+2) Labyrinth 736,379 (-22,067) 36(+2) Sweet Nothing 711,682 (-18,158) 41(-1) Would've, Could've, Should've 656,813 (-15,699) 52(=) The Great War 522,399 (-13,031) 55(+2) Paris 502,042 (-1,007) 56(=) Bigger Than The Whole Sky 498,073 (-14,802) 65(-2) High Infidelity 448,180 (-13,460) 80(-1) Glitch 399,562 (-11,745) 95(-7) Dear Reader 366,435 (-10,671) Total Streams: 17,588,946 (-2%)
Joji - SMITHEREENS 25(-5) Die For You 880,450 (-115,201) 40(-1) Glimpse Of Us 665,218 (-89,931) 132(-35) Feeling Like The End 305,292 (-55,734) 167(-53) Before The Day is Over 272,780 (-57,239) 171(-49) 1AM FREESTYLE 271,526 (-45,892) 185(-54) YUKON (INTERLUDE) 262,868 (-47,309) 188(-56) NIGHT RIDER 260,874 (-48,512) Total Streams: 2,919,008 (-19%)
Others: 8(+3) Steve Lacy - Bad Habit 1,282,009 (-10,377) 10(+2) Sam Smith, Kim Petras - Unholy 1,207,638 (-8,723) 20(+2) d4vd - Romantic Homicide 953,889 (-15,359) 21(+2) Lil Uzi Vert - Just Wanna Rock 924,620 (-41,601) 23(+3) SZA - Shirt 899,059 (-4,759) 27(+1) Drake, 21 Savage - Jimmy Cooks 851,734 (+1,170) 29(+4) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 801,597 (-6,519) 30(+1) JVKE - golden hour 797,495 (-17,986) 31(+3) Harry Styles - As It Was 794,631 (+2,710) 34(+3) The Weeknd - Die For You 762,177 (+4,472) 39(+2) Bad Bunny - Tití Me Preguntó 667,561 (+17,729) 43(+1) The Neighbourhood - Sweater Weather 615,437 (+7,950) 44(+4) Morgan Wallen - You Proof 613,150 (+41,651) 45(-3) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 612,761 (-4,333) 47(=) David Guetta, Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue) 593,141 (+8,099) 48(+1) OneRepublic - I Ain't Worried 569,503 (+4,507) 49(+2) Meghan Trainor - Made You Look 559,543 (+16,661) 50(=) J. Cole - No Role Modelz 555,908 (-835) 51(+2) Chris Brown - Under the Influence 532,098 (-542) 54(=) Stephen Sanchez - Until I Found You 507,332 (-10,839) 57(+2) Post Malone, Doja Cat - I Like You (A Happier Song) 497,750 (+6,837) 59(+1) Hotel Ugly - Shut up My Moms Calling 484,225 (-4,614) 60(-2) Nicki Minaj - Super Freaky Girl 483,071 (-13,970) 61(=) Beyoncé - CUFF IT 476,709 (-4,647) 62(+4) Morgan Wallen - Wasted On You 474,052 (+28,890) 63(+1) Bailey Zimmerman - Rock and A Hard Place 468,754 (+7,380) 64(-2) Omar Apollo - Evergreen 458,793 (-19,137) 67(-2) Steve Lacy - Static 445,092 (-9,797) 70(-3) Juice WRLD - In My Head 434,785 (-3,496) 71(-2) Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas is You 432,864 (-3,648) 72(=) Arctic Monkeys - 505 429,138 (+1,378) 74(-3) Rihanna - Lift Me Up 425,894 (-4,533) 76(+2) Doja Cat - Vegas 414,314 (+892) 77(-1) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 408,286 (-8,038) 78(+5) Kanye West - Bound 2 401,267 (+4,881) 79(+1) Manuel Turizo - La Bachata 399,879 (-5,790) 81(+3) The Weeknd, Lana Del Rey - Stargirl Interlude 395,923 (+4,335) 82(-1) Oliver Tree, Robin Schulz - Miss You 395,463 (-8,649) 84(+18) Lil Baby - Freestyle 383,136 (+32,845) 85(-8) Brent Faiyaz - Clouded 383,020 (-32,093) 86(+10) Tory Lanez - The Color Violet 380,205 (+19,075) 87(+23) Ski Mask the Slump God - OOGA BOOGA! 379,971 (+40,344) 88(-2) J. Cole - Wet Dreamz 378,965 (-838) 90(-1) Kendrick Lamar, Jay Rock - Money Trees 376,031 (+1,209) 91(=) Quavo, Takeoff - HOTEL LOBBY (Unc & Phew) 368,760 (-4,502) 92(-7) Selena Gomez - My Mind & Me 367,883 (-22,213) 93(=) Childish Gambino - Me and Your Mama 367,095 (-4,024) 94(-4) Drake, 21 Savage, Project Pat - Knife Talk 366,786 (-7,279) 97(-2) d4vd - Here With Me 361,475 (-5,136) 98(-4) Baby Keem - HONEST 360,802 (-8,925) 99(-7) Cigarettes After Sex - Apocalypse 359,417 (-13,399) 100(-2) GloRilla, Cardi B - Tomorrow 2 358,786 (+223)
102(+1) Grupo Frontera - No Se Va 357,153 (+6,925) 103(-2) Frank Ocean - Pink + White 350,708 (-1,510) 105(+6) Arctic Monkeys - I Wanna Be Yours 349,585 (+12,220) 106(-1) Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree 346,194 (-1,628) 109(-3) Beach Weather - Sex, Drugs, Etc. 343,201 (-4,318) 111(+7) Cole Swindell - She Had Me At Heads Carolina 340,551 (+19,952) 118(+2) Lil Yachty - Poland 325,816 (+6,254) 119(+2) Future - Solo 323,750 (+5,280) 121(-8) Billie Eilish - TV 320,381 (-10,172) 122(+12) The Weeknd, Gesaffelstein - I Was Never There 315,841 (+7,671) 124(+5) Brent Faiyaz - ALL MINE 314,007 (+3,142) 125(-1) Joji - SLOW DANCING IN THE DARK 312,340 (-2,759) 127(=) Isabel LaRosa - i'm yours 310,998 (-1,816) 128(-5) Lil Nas X - STAR WALKIN' 309,924 (-6,351) 129(+8) Frank Ocean - Sure Thing 308,412 (+3,143) 130(+5) Tom Odell - Another Love 307,683 (-381) 131(+2) Lil Baby - California Breeze 307,016 (-1,486) 134(+4) 21 Savage - ball w/o you 301,990 (+151) 135(+8) Bobby Helms - Jingle Bell Rock 301,888 (+7,612) 137(-7) ThxSoMch - SPIT IN MY FACE 298,692 (-11,925) 144(-2) Rema, Selena Gomez - Calm Down 293,636 (-3,021) 146(+6) Bad Bunny - Neverita 293,346 (+9,718) 150(+1) Armani White - BILLIE EILISH. 283,969 (-256) 152(+2) Ivan Cornejo, Eslabon Armado - La Curiosidad 282,045 (+32) 158(+18) Tyler Childers - All Your'n 280,128 (+13,734) 159(+8) Bizarap, Quevedo - Quevedo: Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 52 278,071-273,004 (+5,067) 160(+11) Zach Bryan - Heading South 276,794 (+7,229) 165(+16) Bailey Zimmerman - Fall in Love 273,981 (+9,449) 168(-11) Coldplay - Sparks 272,464 (-7,440) 170(-11) Ivan Cornejo - J. 272,286 (-4,941) 172(+11) Tyler Hubbard - 5 Foot 9 271,226 (+8,330) 174(-14) Liana Flores - rises the moon 269,814 (-7,377) 179(re-entry) Tyler Childers - Feathered Indians 265,497 181(-17) Kenshi Yonezu - KICK BACK 264,238 (-10,033) 183(-8) TV Girl - Lovers Rock 263,651 (-4,167) 184(+3) PARTYNEXTDOOR - Break from Toronto 263,304 (+2,074) 193(-9) Shakira, Ozuna - Monotonía 259,879 (-3,001) 199(-6) Mr.Kitty - After Dark 255,634 (-2,698)
Biggest Gains (50K+): The Kind of Love We Make
Top 10 Without Drake 1. Anti-Hero 2. Midnight Rain 3. Lavender Haze 4. Bad Habit 5. Unholy 6. Maroon 7. Karma 8. You're On Your Own, Kid 9. Bejeweled 10. Snow On the Beach
Top 10 Without Drake, or Taylor Swift 1. Bad Habit 2. Unholy 3. Romantic Homicide 4. Just Wanna Rock 5. Shirt 6. Die For You (Joji) 7. Jimmy Cooks 8. Something in the Orange 9. golden hour 10. As It Was
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 12, 2022 2:26:33 GMT -5
Baby Yoda Hot100Fan hasn't done the radio update yet. Hope they're doing alright so I'll take over for today kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2022 » / « 11 » / « 11» 1(=) Harry Styles - As It Was 79.09 (-0.64) 2(=) Steve Lacy - Bad Habit 77.51 (+0.21) 3(=) Post Malone - I Like You (A Happier Song) [feat. Doja Cat] 69.58 (-0.90) 4(=) Doja Cat - Vegas (From the Original Motion Picture Soundtrack ELVIS) 68.01 (-0.40) 5(=) Nicky Youre & Dazy - Sunroof 67.91 (-1.69) 6(=) Sia - Unstoppable 63.04 (-0.18) 7(=) Nicki Minaj - Super Freaky Girl 61.91 (+0.24) 8(=) Sam Smith & Kim Petras - Unholy 60.50 (+1.47) 9(=) Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero 57.00 (+1.31) 10(=) Elton John & Britney Spears - Hold Me Closer 50.71 (+0.04) 12(+2) David Guetta & Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue) 49.13 (+1.33) 15(=) Tyler Hubbard - 5 Foot 9 46.95 (+0.54) 17(+2) Rihanna - Lift Me Up (From Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - Music From and Inspired By) 44.32 (+0.50) 33(-4) Harry Styles - Music For A Sushi Restaurant 31.68 (-1.27) 56(+2) Chris Brown - Under the Influence 21.58 (+0.53) 98(+4) Lil Tjay - Beat The Odds 11.47 (+0.54) -(-) P!nk - Never Gonna Not Dance Again 10.25 (+1.24) -(-) SZA - Shirt 3.09 (+2.25) + It's sooooooo funny Harry's third single is already being dropped by radio while As It Was remains the top song on airplay.
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Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Nov 12, 2022 2:53:54 GMT -5
US Spotify - Week 11/03/22 Drake and 21 Savage - HER LOSS
1( DEBUT) Rich Flex 23,098,1162( DEBUT) Major Distribution 17,497,8933( DEBUT) Pussy & Millions 15,900,9875( DEBUT) On BS 15,181,6496( DEBUT) Spit Bout U 13,343,9687( DEBUT) Privileged Rappers 13,117,1738( DEBUT) Circo Loco 13,047,4709( DEBUT) BackOutsideBoyz 12,080,78810( DEBUT) Broke Boys 11,354,97711( DEBUT) Hours In Silence 10,345,52816( DEBUT) Treacherous Twins 8,788,30517( DEBUT) Middle of the Ocean 8,664,46221( DEBUT) Jumbotron Sh t Poppin 8,218,83524( DEBUT) More M's 7,990,24231( DEBUT) I Guess It's Fu ck Me 6,274,82335( DEBUT) 3AM on Glenwood 5,803,242Taylor Swift - Midnights
4( -3) Anti-Hero 15,466,35312( -10) Lavender Haze 9,943,66613( -10) Midnight Rain 9,919,33015( -11) Maroon 8,881,92718( -13) Karma 8,663,34820( -14) You're On Your Own, Kid 8,339,16222( -14) Bejeweled 8,203,81823( -16) Snow on the Beach 8,001,85726( -16) Vigilante Sh it 7,104,08227( -16) Question...? 6,933,81632( -19) Mastermind 6,223,44436( -21) Labyrinth 5,738,07640( -24) Sweet Nothing 5,534,51742( -23) Would've, Could've, Should've 4,961,47249( -25) The Great War 4,002,04852( -25) Bigger Than The Whole Sky 3,848,22653( -24) Paris 3,791,00362( -30) High Infidelity 3,450,84673( -36) Glitch 3,090,28187( -43) Dear Reader 2,819,360Week 3 Streams: 134,916,632 (-25%)Joji - SMITHEREENS
25( DEBUT) Die For You 7,788,87534( +15) Glimpse Of Us 5,878,849 55( DEBUT) Feeling Like The End 3,745,03860( DEBUT) Before The Day is Over 3,487,03367( DEBUT) NIGHT RIDER 3,168,80570( DEBUT) 1AM FREESTYLE 3,117,59676( re-entry) YUKON (INTERLUDE) 3,055,46178( DEBUT) Dissolve 3,043,41792( DEBUT) BLAHBLAHBLAH DEMO 2,704,85314( -2) Steve Lacy - Bad Habit 9,126,50319( -10) Sam Smith, Kim Petras - Unholy 8,646,04228( -5) Lil Uzi Vert - Just Wanna Rock 6,810,36529( -11) d4vd - Romantic Homicide 6,548,44830( -16) SZA - Shirt 6,326,35633( -3) Drake, 21 Savage - Jimmy Cooks 5,965,52737( -15) JVKE - golden hour 5,643,36338( -13) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 5,620,61039( -19) Harry Styles - Harry Styles - As It Was 32 5,543,28341( -13) The Weeknd - Die For You 5,116,01043( -17) Bad Bunny - Tití Me Preguntó 4,738,08145( -10) The Neighbourhood - Sweater Weather 4,200,51846( -10) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 4,174,21847( -13) David Guetta, Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue) 4,118,30248( -6) Morgan Wallen - You Proof 4,015,95351( -13) OneRepublic - I Ain't Worried 3,982,16454( -21) Meghan Trainor - Made You Look 3,788,57256( -17) Chris Brown - Under the Influence 3,716,33157( -10) J. Cole - No Role Modelz 3,716,17658( -18) Nicki Minaj - Super Freaky Girl 3,551,02059( -9) Stephen Sanchez - Until I Found You 3,541,95861( -15) Post Malone, Doja Cat - I Like You (A Happier Song) 3,481,52363( -18) Beyoncé - CUFF IT 3,418,24564( -47) Rihanna - Lift Me Up 3,256,40665( -14) Omar Apollo - Evergreen 3,231,39766( -45) Juice Wrld - In My Head 3,225,74368( +1) Hotel Ugly - Shut up My Moms Calling 3,151,89469( +2) Bailey Zimmerman - Rock and A Hard Place 3,149,39671( -16) Steve Lacy - Static 3,110,63174( +75) Mariah Carey - All I Want for Christmas is You 3,086,56475( -14) Morgan Wallen - Wasted On You 3,078,53877( DEBUT) Selena Gomez - My Mind & Me 3,043,73383( -20) Arctic Monkeys - 505 2,898,32784( -18) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 2,858,86388( -23) Oliver Tree, Robin Schulz - Miss You 2,818,69489( -25) Manuel Turizo - La Bachata 2,788,72091( -4) Drake, 21 Savage, Project Pat - Knife Talk 2,718,85993( +27) Quavo, Takeoff - HOTEL LOBBY (Unc & Phew) 2,637,86394( -12) The Weeknd, Lana Del Rey - Stargirl Interlude 2,567,50697( -1) Childish Gambino - Me and Your Mama 2,522,91998( -22) GloRilla, Cardi B - Tomorrow 2 2,521,659100( -26) Grupo Frontera - No Se Va 2,489,956101( -22) Kendrick Lamar, Jay Rock - Money Trees 2,482,473102( -18) Lil Baby - Freestyle 2,466,558103( -13) J. Cole - Wet Dreamz 2,432,605104( -18) Baby Keem - HONEST 2,430,718105( -6) Brent Faiyaz - Clouded 2,413,496106( -9) Cigarettes After Sex - Apocalypse 2,412,519107( -51) Lil Yachty - Poland 2,411,087109( re-entry) Brenda Lee - Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree 2,356,229110( +21) d4vd - Here With Me 2,346,667112( -14) Beach Weather - Sex, Drugs, Etc. 2,334,246113( +26) Ski Mask the Slump God - OOGA BOOGA! 2,324,948114( -9) Arctic Monkeys - I Wanna Be Yours 2,322,103115( -20) Tory Lanez - The Color Violet 2,320,926118( -15) Frank Ocean - Pink + White 2,311,239124( DEBUT) ThxSoMch - SPIT IN MY FACE! 2,227,113125( +4) Cole Swidell - She Had Me At Heads Carolina 2,225,788127( -15) Lil Nas X - STAR WALKIN' 2,192,280129( -4) Billie Eilish - TV 2,188,688130( -37) Lil Baby - California Breeze 2,164,636133( -31) Rema, Selena Gomez - Calm Down 2,135,992135( -28) Tom Odell - Another Love 2,112,547136( +11) Joji - SLOW DANCING IN THE DARK 2,104,228137( DEBUT) hemlocke springs - girlfriend 2,089,880138( -12) Future - Solo 2,084,981139( -17) The Weeknd, Gesaffelstein - I Was Never There 2,072,348140( +18) 21 Savage - ball w/o you 2,064,559
142( -50) Armani White - BILLIE EILISH. 2,049,789143( -3) Brent Faiyaz - ALL MINE 2,029,085145( re-entry) Bobby Helms - Jingle Bell Rock 2,002,364147( -39) Bad Bunny - Neverita 1,995,458
149( -43) Bizarap, Quevedo - Quevedo: Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 52 1,959,830156( +40) Ivan Cornejo, Eslabon Armado - La Curiosidad 1,911,996157( re-entry) Miguel - Sure Thing 1,907,779162( +35) 21 Savage - a lot 1,890,147163( re-entry) 21 Savage, Metro Boomin - Glock in My Lap 1,885,793168( DEBUT) Isabel LaRosa - i'm yours 1,859,852169( -80) Shakira, Ozuna - Monotonía 1,859,748170( -13) Liana Flores - rises the moon 1,858,542172( +4) Tyler Childers - All Your'n 1,858,171174( -19) Coldplay - Sparks 1,852,116175( re-entry) Zach Bryan - Heading South 1,844,446176( re-entry) Ivan Cornejo - J. 1,841,601178( -26) Kenshi Tonezu - KICK BACK 1,836,456179( -29) Tyler Hubard - 5 Foot 9 1,827,040182( -17) Bailey Zimmerman - Fall in Love 1,807,247191( re-entry) TV Girl - Lovers Rock 1,762,446194( -106) Marshmello, Juice WRLD - Bye Bye 1,749,911196( -10) Mr.Kitty - After Dark 1,748,379197( -76) Cults - Gilded Lily 1,745,294199( DEBUT) Fujii Kaze - Shinunoga E-Wa 1,743,967And with that, we have the final two big album bombs before the Christmas Freeze starts. Drake and 21 Savage crash into the charts and take up the entire Top 10, with Rich Flex at #1, although Taylor is still steady with Anti-Hero only dropping to #4 despite a 20% drop in streams. Glimpse of Us shot back up 68% thanks to his album dropping, which also brought back up SLOW DANCING IN THE DARK by 11%, All I Want for Christmas is You shoots up 63% as the holiday season begins, HOTEL LOBBY (Unc and Phew) was up 25% after a full week of tracking, past Drake and 21 collabs like Jimmy Cooks and Knife Talk went up 21% and 11% respectively from HER LOSS dropping, OOGA BOOGA surprisingly gained by 19%, Just Wanna Rock stabilized with a 15% gain, Here With Me rose 15%, Rock and a Hard Place gained 13%, ball w/o continues it's cult momentum up 12%, La Curiosidad rebounded 11%, Shut up My Moms Calling went up 10%, and a lot also came back up 10%. Finally in comparing the two big debus from last week, Shirt lost 25% while the collapses of Lift Me Up and In My Head led both songs losing 52% and 44% respectively in streams. Top 10 Without Drake
1. Anti-Hero 2. Lavender Haze 3. Midnight Rain 4. Bad Habit 5. Maroon 6. Karma 7. Unholy 8. You're On Your Own, Kid 9. Bejeweld 10. Snow On the Beach Top 20 Without Drake or Taylor Swift
1. Bad Habit 2. Unholy 3. Die For You (Joji) 4. Just Wanna Rock 5. Romantic Homicide 6. Shirt 7. Jimmy Cooks 8. Glimpse of Us 9. golden hour 10. Something in the Orange 11. As It Was 12. Die For You (The Weeknd) 13. Tití Me Preguntó 14. Me Porto Bonito 15. Sweater Weather 16. Dark Red 17. I'm Good (Blue) 18. You Proof 19. WAIT FOR U 20. I Ain't Worried
Album Bombs of 2022 Taylor Swift - Midnights: 338,478,561Drake and 21 Savage - HER LOSS: 190,708,458Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers: 162,399,295Harry Styles - Harry's House: 155,599,606Bad Bunny - Un Verano Tin Si: 150,532,629Drake - Honestly, Nevermind: 94,526,690The Weeknd - Dawn FM: 85,388,774Beyoncé - RENAISSANCE: 70,796,753Future - I NEVER LIKED YOU: 69,398,938Juice WRLD - Fighting Demons: 67,384,618Post Malonе - Twelve Carat Toothache: 65,836,902Jack Harlow - Come Home, The Kids Miss You: 58,011,136Gunna - DS4EVER: 41,841,164Lil Baby It's Only Me: 40,962,879Brent Faiyaz - WASTELAND: 36,714,605Joji - SMITHEREENS: 35,989,927DJ Khaled - GOD DID: 29,794,808Machine Gun Kelly - mainstream sellout: 26,432,268Steve Lacy - Gemini: 20,679,293BLACKPINK - Born Pink: 18,893,808$UICIDEBOY$ - Sing Me a Lullaby, My Sweet Temptation: 16,687,822Pusha T - It's Almost Dry: 14,700,508Lil Durk - 7220: 10,270,069Megan Thee Stallion - Traumazine: 7,738,995Beautiful Mind - Rod Wave: 6,918,014
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Post by dodgerslakers94 on Nov 12, 2022 4:46:45 GMT -5
Not that anybody cares, but I’d like to see a big artist drop an album a week before the Christmas freeze, just to see AIWFCIY blocked for one holiday season.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 12, 2022 6:31:50 GMT -5
Well, then, jeng, people should be complaining that other acts aren't doing it, more so than complaining about ones who are. :) People should complain about whatever they want to complain about, not what you think they should complain about. (Btw if people had simply complained more people weren't doing what BTS fans were doing instead of complaining about that issue, maybe the rule wouldn't have changed? Food for thought.) Not that anybody cares, but I’d like to see a big artist drop an album a week before the Christmas freeze, just to see AIWFCIY blocked for one holiday season. Didn't Adele and Taylor Swift do that the last two years? Swift released an album a week or so into December and Adele released an album late November last year.
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Post by Envoirment on Nov 12, 2022 9:16:36 GMT -5
Amazing if Taylor does 250k+ sales! :o
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Post by imbuemyblue on Nov 12, 2022 9:30:22 GMT -5
Can someone please explain to me why it matters whether an artist does or does not care about the charts? Some people on here talking about it like it's a moral issue. If you're seriously out here like 'yeah, I used to like x artist, but they care about the charts too much :( :( :(' that is very weird behavior. Similarly, it does not make you some kind of exalted saint to not care about them.
Anyway, I will be very curious to see what that final sales # for Taylor is, because that is bonkers.
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Post by kingvavis on Nov 12, 2022 10:15:17 GMT -5
Does anyone know of an archive that has US weekly Spotify numbers pre-2016?
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 12, 2022 11:58:05 GMT -5
Might wanna keep an eye out for Spin Bout U. It's a clear fan favorite amongst many other songs off Her Loss but while the album's song positions on US Apple Music most remained the way the songs were tracklisted throughout the first tracking week, Spin Bout U is the sixth song on the album and it's risen to #2 on US Apple Music. If it manages to surpass Rich Flex then we've got some action.
I wonder what other songs (if any), might start seeing similar movements as people dig deeper into the album.
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Post by Gary on Nov 12, 2022 12:22:39 GMT -5
Well, then, jeng, people should be complaining that other acts aren't doing it, more so than complaining about ones who are. People should complain about whatever they want to complain about, not what you think they should complain about. (Btw if people had simply complained more people weren't doing what BTS fans were doing instead of complaining about that issue, maybe the rule wouldn't have changed? Food for thought.) . I think Billboard looks at market changes and adjusts their policies accordingly after studying trends and such. Not always as fast as fans like of course but that is how they do it. If they reacted based on fan board complaints, we would have formulas changing every week because one person's favorite is not number one and some other song is.
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Post by artistry on Nov 12, 2022 12:55:57 GMT -5
Music for a Sushi Restaurant has peaked on radio. It probably won't return to the top 40. Harry Styles should just have the song run its course throughout the Holiday season. Then early next year, mid to late January, release a new single.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 12, 2022 17:08:10 GMT -5
The BTS scenario was different than this, though. But, sure, people are free to complain about whatever they like. That much I agree.
imbuemyblue- that is true. Acts are free to release as many versions of a track as they like, and price them accordingly, per the chart rules. As always, some acts just care more about playing the chart game.
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Post by livelikedying111 on Nov 12, 2022 17:08:38 GMT -5
Can someone please clarify what was the issue with BTS, that made Billboard change its formula, and how is what Taylor is doing now is different than that? I mean, weren't the BTS fans purchasing multiple digital copies, and that's what basically Taylor fans are doing now?.. help me get this, please.
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Post by iHype. on Nov 12, 2022 17:15:41 GMT -5
Can someone please clarify what was the issue with BTS, that made Billboard change its formula, and how is what Taylor is doing now is different than that? I mean, weren't the BTS fans purchasing multiple digital copies, and that's what basically Taylor fans are doing now?.. help me get this, please. Basically, we can call out BTS, Travis Scott, etc but just not a beloved pop female lol.
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Post by Gary on Nov 12, 2022 17:23:57 GMT -5
Yep female pop gets a pass here LOL
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Post by leoapp on Nov 12, 2022 17:37:22 GMT -5
Anti-Hero's 270-280k sales projection...
What was the last non Taylor/non Adele to have bigger sales?
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Nov 12, 2022 17:43:58 GMT -5
Lord have mercy. Can we just stop with the pure delusion this board has been prevented from calling out or hasn't been criticizing Taylor Swift or any other female pop star for their "tactics"? Particularly with Taylor, it's been happening routinely for the entire length of her career and nearly guaranteed at some stage in nearly every one of her single releases at this point.
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Post by Soundcl🕤ck on Nov 12, 2022 17:53:28 GMT -5
Anti-Hero's 270-280k sales projection... What was the last non Taylor/non Adele to have bigger sales? Top 10 biggest weeks since January 2016: 1.Justin Timberlake - Can't Stop The Feeling 379k 2.Taylor Swift - Look What You Made Me Do 353k 3.Adele - Hello 327k 4.Prince - Purple Rain 282k 5.Zayn - Pillowtalk 267k 6.BTS - Dynamite 265k 7.BTS - Butter 242k 8.Ed Sheeran - Shape Of You 240k 9.Kelly Clarkson - Piece By Piece 210k 10.The Chainsmokers Ft Halsey - Closer 208k 2015 was really the last huge year for digital sales:
1.Adele - Hello 1,11M 2.Adele - Hello 635k 3.Taylor Swift - Blank Space 503k 4.Adele - Hello 480k 5.Wiz Khalifa Ft Charlie Puth - See You Again 464k 6.Mark Ronson Ft Bruno Mars - Uptown Funk 400k 7.Taylor Swift Ft Kendrick Lamar - Bad Blood 385k 8.Mark Ronson Ft Bruno Mars - Uptown Funk 382k 9.Wiz Khalifa Ft Charlie Puth - See You Again 375k 10.Mark Ronson Ft Bruno Mars - Uptown Funk 365k
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Post by leoapp on Nov 12, 2022 18:11:55 GMT -5
Wow...the last female (non Taylor/Adele) to hit 200k was Kelly???
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Post by thegreatdivine on Nov 12, 2022 18:12:39 GMT -5
Well, it's very clear the preference this board has over anyone being critcal about Taylor because the moment you say anything critical about her chart manipulation shenanigans, your post gets quoted by a dozen Swifties trying to "if', "but" and "maybe" what you just said or suggesting that what Taylor is doing isn't as bad as what some other acts have done in the past and so, she should somehow get a pass and you shouldn't be as critical, instead of just, I don't know, letting you say what you feel without trying to interfere with that.
Like many other people have said before, we are critical of Taylor's antics. That's it. I doubt anyone here hates Taylor or doesn't like that she's the one female act who can compete/outdo most of the male acts commercially in today's music market.
And more to that, we keep the same energy for ANYONE who goes overboard with the chart manipulation antics, not just Taylor. I remember there was a time in 2020 when every new Hot 100 thread ran for 30+ pages because almost everyone would be complaining about the blatant abuse of bundles by several acts, along with other chart manipulation shenanigans (mostly by BTS).
I know it must suck for Swifties that she's the one getting blasted now but this too shall pass (hopefully).
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Nov 12, 2022 18:28:53 GMT -5
Can someone please clarify what was the issue with BTS, that made Billboard change its formula, and how is what Taylor is doing now is different than that? I mean, weren't the BTS fans purchasing multiple digital copies, and that's what basically Taylor fans are doing now?.. help me get this, please. Someone would have all the specifics better maybe (as my memory is awful post covid), but I feel it was less about BTS and more about their fans who hijacked the chart for months. BTS and Taylor are the same in that "Butter" and "Anti-Hero" both utilized remixes/ discounts, both hit #1 on the Hot 100, and both artists have devoted fanbases. The similarities pretty much cease after this. "Anti-Hero" has both strong streaming and radio support to legitimize its hit status and enjoyed its first two weeks at the pole position without the need of tactics to be there, likely wouldn't need them to have returned there next week either). "Butter" relied entirely on orchestrated weekly mass purchasing from the army (to the tune of hundreds of thousands of copies for months if I remember correctly). It had both poor radio and streaming performance comparatively. The army was heavily orchestrated down to calculating weekly how many copies they would need to sell to remain atop, funding it, making it happen throughout like 10 weeks. I saw some individuals saying they spent like $5,000. lol There is sooo much more to it than what I can describe to you in my post, hopefully someone else can better detail, but I just remember a lot of people being absolutely floored by it. It wasn't just some fans buying multiple copies. But yeah mass purchasing is obviously a problem.
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Post by m450n on Nov 12, 2022 18:33:13 GMT -5
Well, it's very clear the preference this board has over anyone being critcal about Taylor because the moment you say anything critical about her chart manipulation shenanigans, your post gets quoted by a dozen Swifties trying to "if', "but" and "maybe" what you just said or suggesting that what Taylor is doing isn't as bad as what some other acts have done in the past and so, she should somehow get a pass and you shouldn't be as critical, instead of just, I don't know, letting you say what you feel without trying to interfere with that. Like many other people have said before, we are critical of Taylor's antics. That's it. I doubt anyone here hates Taylor or doesn't like that she's the one female act who can compete/outdo most of the male acts commercially in today's music market. And more to that, we keep the same energy for ANYONE who goes overboard with the chart manipulation antics, not just Taylor. I remember there was a time in 2020 when every new Hot 100 thread ran for 30+ pages because almost everyone would be complaining about the blatant abuse of bundles by several acts, along with other chart manipulation shenanigans (mostly by BTS). I know it must suck for Swifties that she's the one getting blasted now but this too shall pass (hopefully). I’m sorry but your posts this week are lowkey giving Marvel super villain monologue vibes
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Post by Eloqueen™ on Nov 12, 2022 18:42:21 GMT -5
Well, it's very clear the preference this board has over anyone being critcal about Taylor because the moment you say anything critical about her chart manipulation shenanigans, your post gets quoted by a dozen Swifties trying to "if', "but" and "maybe" what you just said or suggesting that what Taylor is doing isn't as bad as what some other acts have done in the past and so, she should somehow get a pass and you shouldn't be as critical, instead of just, I don't know, letting you say what you feel without trying to interfere with that. This is particularly interesting you say this, given I know we have likely all given this experience personally to other members before at some point or another. If you weren't the Swiftie you were the lamb, or the barb, or that Drake fan, or the hive etc. So is fan of said person not allowed to interact to any criticism you've given of their favorite? Or only agree? Or is the implication they should rise above or look past it? Because you, of all people, surely know what it means to come to an artist you appreciate's defense. I would think discourse is what generally fuels discussion on a discussion forum. lol And no Taylor fan is worried about Taylor being "blasted". She's been being blasted since Feb 2016 (well really since the start). lol
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Post by firefox on Nov 12, 2022 18:55:01 GMT -5
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Post by Fanstar1 on Nov 12, 2022 19:21:24 GMT -5
Unless the year end is 53 weeks those sales will count towards the 2023 year ends; Anti-Hero is all but locking for the digital sales YE #1 in a single week given the #1 for 2022 only had around 200 thousand.
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