Billboard Hot 100: 12/24/2022

[iHype.]

With album bombs songs are getting “blocked” by other new music that is also just becoming a hit at least.

With the Holiday freeze it’s new songs getting by blocked by decades old songs year after year that are already cemented hits. Songs that are intended to only have a single chart run vs. yearly traditions that will just continually reach the same height every single year.

[fearlessarrow]

Dec 11, 2022 20:49:08 GMT -5 KeepDeanWeird said:

CI - 4 straight days of losses at radio - 2MM loss in audience. Bit surprised. Thought it was going to be solid in January. Is it following BMS and being flushed out quickly?

It's an unfortunate case of the song peaking on different formats at different times. "Cuff It" already hit #1 on Rhythmic and Urban so it's on its way down over there. It's pretty much hit the ceiling on R&B (but will most likely be sticking around near the top because of how R&B radio works) so that leaves Pop and HAC having to offset those losses but it's not rising at the fastest pace on either of those formats (it's done well on pop so far though), especially HAC where it only has < 2M in audience so far.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

kworb's Billboard Radio Songs Estimates « 2022 » / « 12 » / « 12 »

1(=) Sam Smith & Kim Petras - Unholy 87.80(+0.46)
2(=) Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero 85.93(+0.69)
3(=) David Guetta & Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue) 74.76(+0.87)
4(=) Beyoncé - CUFF IT 65.91(-0.35)
5(=) The Weeknd - Die For You 62.72(+0.78) +
6(=) Steve Lacy - Bad Habit 59.01(-0.89) -
7(=) Harry Styles - As It Was 58.16(-0.32)
8(=) Nicki Minaj - Super Freaky Girl 57.95(-0.40)
9(=) Post Malone - I Like You (A Happier Song) [feat. Doja Cat] 54.48(-0.12)
10(=) Rihanna - Lift Me Up (From Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - Music From and Inspired By) 54.44(-0.04)

44(+2) Drake & 21 Savage - Rich Flex 24.75(+0.79)

50(=) Taylor Swift - Lavender Haze 22.45(+0.83)

-(-) Ozuna - Arhbo f/GIMS 10.05(+0.87)

-(-) Metro Boomin, The Weeknd & 21 Savage - Creepin' 4.75(+1.02)

-(-) Bailey Zimmerman - Rock and a Hard Place 4.22(+0.82)

[KeepDeanWeird]

Dec 12, 2022 10:29:16 GMT -5 fearlessarrow said:

Dec 11, 2022 20:49:08 GMT -5 KeepDeanWeird said:

CI - 4 straight days of losses at radio - 2MM loss in audience. Bit surprised. Thought it was going to be solid in January. Is it following BMS and being flushed out quickly?

It's an unfortunate case of the song peaking on different formats at different times. "Cuff It" already hit #1 on Rhythmic and Urban so it's on its way down over there. It's pretty much hit the ceiling on R&B (but will most likely be sticking around near the top because of how R&B radio works) so that leaves Pop and HAC having to offset those losses but it's not rising at the fastest pace on either of those formats (it's done well on pop so far though), especially HAC where it only has < 2M in audience so far.

ITA, but if Beyonce's team wanted a H100 Top 10, they were certainly free to issue a video, exclusive singles, etc. CI became a hit because it went viral. It's not like the label has invested any real dollars in promoting CI.

[Caviar]

Album bombs last 1-2 weeks at most. Christmas lasts well over a month which definitely messes up chart peaks. Christmas songs should have their own chart and be removed from the Hot 100 unless it's a new recording.

[Gary]

For 50 years they did that. Christmas songs could only chart in the year of release then after that - recurrent

With the streaming era Christmas has kind of taken over every December.

If you limit Christmas songs so that peaks and year end charts could look better, you will have situations where the biggest song of the week does not chart. Makes no sense to me.

If the pop songs released now are big enough hits, they will stil be around in January to get the chart peak that they would have had anyway.

[thegreatdivine]

Doesn't allowing the same Christmas songs to re-enter the Hot 100 every single year for the foreseeable future eventually render every Hot 100 record basically useless? AIWFCIY will eventually be the song with the most returns to #1 and the most weeks at #1 simply because it's the staple Christmas song. It will also eventually become the highest-certified RIAA single in history because it's guaranteed 2 months of massive streams every year — something newer songs don't have.

I remember when people would complain about songs that were released in the streaming era and how they were ruining all-time Hot 100 records. Well, those songs still have to battle with going recurrent and more often than not, a song that has a massive debut will be gone from the charts in 50-60 weeks at most. In rare cases, they last longer than that but that's for songs that had a slow climb to their peaks.

I just think it's silly. So now, any artist releasing music in mid-to-late November, all the way to the first week of January has to deal with an influx of Christmas songs/albums that could very well affect where the new music peaks? That's not to mention how historically low streams tend to be in January. And how doesn't this also further the push of catalog songs being streamed more than newer songs when newer songs have 6-8 weeks every year where they basically have no chance on the charts?

I have no issues with letting Christmas songs chart since they are actually being consumed. But have a specific chart for them that's not the Hot 100. That makes the most sense.

Most of these songs are decades old. It's one thing for a song that old to go viral and enjoy a few weeks/months of chart activity before falling off forever but to have the power to enter the Hot 100 top 10 just because it's Christmas time and to do that year after year after year when no other new song will ever have the same opportunity, is ridiculous to me. Billboard has to make some changes.

[Gary]

Dec 12, 2022 13:13:58 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

Doesn't allowing the same Christmas songs to re-enter the Hot 100 every single year for the foreseeable future eventually render every Hot 100 record basically useless? AIWFCIY will eventually be the song with the most returns to #1 and the most weeks at #1 simply because it's the staple Christmas song. It will also eventually become the highest-certified RIAA single in history because it's guaranteed 2 months of massive streams every year — something newer songs don't have.

I remember when people would complain about songs that were released in the streaming era and how they were ruining all-time Hot 100 records. Well, those songs still have to battle with going recurrent and more often than not, a song that has a massive debut will be gone from the charts in 50-60 weeks at most. In rare cases, they last longer than that but that's for songs that had a slow climb to their peaks.

I just think it's silly. So now, any artist releasing music in mid-to-late November, all the way to the first week of January has to deal with an influx of Christmas songs/albums that could very well affect where the new music peaks? That's not to mention how historically low streams tend to be in January. And how doesn't this also further the push of catalog songs being streamed more than newer songs when newer songs have 6-8 weeks every year where they basically have no chance on the charts?

I have no issues with letting Christmas songs chart since they are actually being consumed. But have a specific chart for them that's not the Hot 100. That makes the most sense.

Most of these songs are decades old. It's one thing for a song that old to go viral and enjoy a few weeks/months of chart activity before falling off forever but to have the power to enter the Hot 100 top 10 just because it's Christmas time and to do that year after year after year when no other new song will ever have the same opportunity, is ridiculous to me. Billboard has to make some changes.

Don't blame Christmas - The streaming era rendered Hot 100 records basically useless anyway.    Drake and Taylor Swift now own all the major records thanks to the streaming era.

Having the current #1 (Mariah) chart separately because it will mess up all time lists basically says - we think the Hot 100 should NOT represent the most popular songs of the week

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

I really don't know what's the best solution for Xmas songs on the Hot 100, but I know December is now easily the most boring month for charts. It was really interesting and refreshing to see them on the chart 2-3-4 years ago, now I'm just indifferent.

[HamedM1 💔]

I do agree with the separate chart thing for Christmas songs since its gonna be a lil annoying to see Christmas songs pop up continually in the year end charts and what not from now on. At the end of the day its not a big deal, just a minor annoyance since the upper echelon of the charts will be overflooded with all the yearly classics for a month and a half.

It'd basically be a Christmas equivalent to the Songs of the Summer seasonal chart except just show the consumption of Christmas songs in relation to the rest of the active charts instead of doing that in the Hot 100.

[sheardbeard]

In my opinion, the Hot 100 should be an all-encompassing tracker that ranks weekly music consumption. Christmas happens. Album bombs happen. Drake happens. Taylor Swift happens. Streaming is how a majority of people consume music nowadays. And also, the same old songs keep getting played over and over on the radio. It makes the most sense to completely get rid of recurrent rules. Old songs get popular again— sometimes they stay popular for weeks or months on end. Would removing all recurrent rules make the chart “boring”? Possibly- but tell your friends and family to not enjoy yearly traditions and only consume new releases— see how far that gets you. 🤣

[kimberly]

I doubt Christmas songs charting and overtaking the Hot 100 is an annoyance to ANYONE but the chart nerds here and stans of whichever artist poorly times/promotes their music in a given year like Beyoncé and Metro Boomin. It's not like Christmas songs resurge out of the blue.

I am for Christmas songs charting — it's an accurate representation of what is popular/being consumed right now. Sure, charts get a little boring in December. Maybe go spend time with family and loved ones instead, idk. Might even make you enjoy Christmas music in the background!

[jdanton2]

maybe Billboard could keep the Hot 100 as it is and have a separate singles chart that eliminates non singles and holiday songs.

[HamedM1 💔]

Dec 12, 2022 13:43:48 GMT -5 kimberly said:

I doubt Christmas songs charting and overtaking the Hot 100 is an annoyance to ANYONE but the chart nerds here and stans of whichever artist poorly times/promotes their music in a given year like Beyoncé and Metro Boomin. It's not like Christmas songs resurge out of the blue.

I am for Christmas songs charting — it's an accurate representation of what is popular/being consumed right now. Sure, charts get a little boring in December. Maybe go spend time with family and loved ones instead, idk. Might even make you enjoy Christmas music in the background!

Yeah I do basically agree with this cause its true only the small demographic of people that actually even pay attention to music charts could ever care lol
It's such a minor thing and I only occasionally pay attention to the charts these days.

Then again I'm also such a weird neutral outlier since I don't even celebrate Christmas so I have no major feelings towards Christmas music outside of a few bops. 

[Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815...]

Dec 12, 2022 13:13:58 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

AIWFCIY will eventually be the song with the most returns to #1 and the most weeks at #1 simply because it's the staple Christmas song. It will also eventually become the highest-certified RIAA single in history because it's guaranteed 2 months of massive streams every year — something newer songs don't have.

I see no issue with this…

[HamedM1 💔]

Honestly I think the thing I care about is as long as stuff like Cuff It, Die For You, Creepin, etc still make the 2023 year end, chart peaks are nice but the not the end of the world as long as the song is still a hit in general.

Especially in recent years where we have seen songs make high debuts and then fall of the chart within mere weeks and miss the year end altogether, longevity is the real test of whether or not a song really is a hit nowadays more than ever before. Otherwise unless we are ready to say we remember #1 hit TROLLZ as one of the biggest songs of 2020 despite this iconic chart run.

[jayhawk1117]

If the 80 biggest songs this week are Christmas jams so be it. The only solution would be some arbitrary rule that is specifically relevant literally for 5 weeks of the year. And I don’t expect billboard to make rules that are genre specific like “All holiday songs can only re-enter the chart if matches or surpasses it’s peak.” But then AIWFC just takes the biggest redebut record too sooo

But yes streaming has killed most records tbh. Half a decade ago, seeing TWO songs in the top 10 was crazy. It the last 2 years we had 4 albums do 5 plus and one album did a clean sweep. And don’t even look at longevity records LOL.

[m450n]

Streaming has the opposite effect on the movie industry than the music industry.

Well A-list actors and actresses fade into obscurity due to a lack of blockbuster hits Hollywood culture has faded.

But the truth is, there are more 'famous' musicians than ever now. Even the artists that reached unheard of heights when it came to worldwide popularity such as Michael Jackson and The Beatles are being challenged.

Instead of just a few A-list singers, there are dozens so the charts are very different.

[jodakyellow]

Dec 12, 2022 13:13:58 GMT -5 thegreatdivine said:

AIWFCIY will eventually be the song with the most returns to #1 and the most weeks at #1 simply because it's the staple Christmas song. It will also eventually become the highest-certified RIAA single in history because it's guaranteed 2 months of massive streams every year — something newer songs don't have.

I have a few responses to this:

1. "It's going to be the highest-certified single in history because people keep streaming it over and over again" isn't a super compelling argument to me. If it's really that popular, why shouldn't the statistics reflect that?

2. We don't know for sure that AIWFCIY will always return to #1. Each year, "Rockin' Around the Christmas Tree" creeps closer to the #1 spot; it could get there before AIWFCIY can rack up 20 weeks.

3. We don't have to let Christmas songs be the only ones to benefit from streaming. For example, Taylor Swift fans helped her non-single "August" have a massive month of streaming this August, and I bet that'll pick up some more steam in 2023. You can make your own tiny dent in this "problem" by getting your network together to create your own annual traditions and refuse to stream AIWFCIY.

[bat1990]

The bitterness in here, LOL. If SZA had waited until January, I think this convo would be less heated.

[Gary]

If SZA is meant to have a long-lasting hit rather than be another one-week wonder, this album will still be here. In the meantime, enjoy the Christmas music

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

It kind of actually…makes sense that the most popular songs of all time would include a lot of holiday music, because they’re the ones coming back year after year by default. What songs are people going to be most likely to know from 4 to 104, Blinding Lights or Rocking Around The Christmas Tree/White Christmas/All I want for Christmas is you?

As for the artists not having fair access to chart in December, it’s not like Christmas is a secret. We all know what the landscape is once December hits. Artists choose to release with that in mind and I’m sure bank on it. SZA may or may not get a Hot 100 number one but she has little competition elsewhere and her album is getting good numbers. If she had released in September, would she be getting as much attention? Maybe, maybe not, but she wouldn’t be the conversation the way she is now. Sometimes it’s not only about Billboard charts. Sometimes (most/nearly all), success is defined other ways.

[Darkest Hour]

Not too important for Hot 100 chart because it works this way for a while, but the tracking week of genre airplay charts will shift to Friday-Thursday for the charts dated 12/31/2022.

[kindofbiased]

I have super mixed opinions on the annual Christmas takeover. On the one hand, I do kinda wish they would be relegated to their own chart, especially since it's the same songs over and over again and they tend to block great songs from reaching higher peaks like Body and I Hate U.

On the other hand... they are the most popular songs right now, and I know it's kinda ridiculous to get mad at Billboard for saying that lol

[enwhy]

Weekly Global TikTok Update, December 12

The website I use updated to filter out non-songs from the most-used sounds! As a result, a few familiar songs made a return, and a lot of lower charting songs jumped up. Notably, Bloody Mary is having an insane viral moment with over 100k+ uses per 24 hours (Disclaimer: the sound being most commonly used doesn't name Gaga or the song's name, which probably costs it some name recognition). Otherwise, it's pretty stagnant with a lot of the same songs we've seen over the past couple months + some Christmas songs.

Also, not listed because of lack of US impact, but I had not heard the k-pop song Hype Boy by Blue Jeans (ranked #21) It's a really nice song, highly recommend!

Rank		Song	Artist	Vids	US Sptfy
2	NE	BLOODY MARY (SPED UP)	LADY GAGA	117k	110	-4
3	-1	ALL I WANT FOR CHIRSTMAS IS YOU	MARIAH CAREY	74k	4	=
4	+2	TUBARÃO TE AMO	DJ LK DA ESCÓCIA & ...	69k	-
5	RE	MADE YOU LOOK	MEGHAN TRAINOR	32k	91	-2
8	+17	UNHOLY	SAM SMITH & KIM PETRAS	12k	42	-17
9	RE	MISS YOU	OLIVER TREE & ROBIN SCHULZ	9k	169	-13
11	RE	CALM DOWN	REMA & SELENA GOMEZ	8k	-
15	+39	FALL IN LOVE ALONE (SPED UP)	STACEY RYAN	4k	-
16	+44	NO	MEGHAN TRAINOR	4k	-
28	NE	DAYDREAMIN' (SPED UP)	ARIANA GRANDE	1k	-

Source: tokchart.com/
*TikTok & Spotify +/- is based on 7-day change.


Weekly US TikTok Update, December 12

https://www.instagram.com/p/CmEuRtjupgr

[chartfreak]

Any chance SZA can knock Mariah out of #1, assuming possibly no since airplay is probably lacking. How is SZA doing on Itunes?

What if Holiday songs were weighted less? Not just Holiday, older songs in general. Would it be fair if a new song with 1 million streams gets the same points as an older song with the same amount of streams? If I'm not mistaken, aren't streams weighted differently based on how it's consumed, kind of the same thing. Hopefully this makes sense.

[JukeboxJacob]

Escapism arriving at the Hot 100

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[JukeboxJacob]

reaction to AIWFCIY being #1


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[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^^^For starters, Kill Bill would need be #1 at Streaming Songs this week to even have a chance at #1 in the Hot 100. Regarding iTunes, there's only one SZA song at #40.

[85la]

Dec 12, 2022 21:25:37 GMT -5 JukeboxJacob said:

reaction to AIWFCIY being #1


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Lol, did you make that yourself?