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Post by christianlarson9 on Apr 13, 2023 12:16:56 GMT -5
Genuinely what is Sony doing for Maren this album cycle? I’m honestly surprised. It's more of Maren than her label IMO. I love Maren, but I think she's just turned away people in the industry and the general country community due to her politics. The launch for "Humble Quest" was pretty good and they made the best single choices for the material they had, but she obviously had no buzz for her music. If anyone was talking about her, it was because of something she did or said. That said, I think her next project will be her shift to Pop as she's been working with Greg Kurstin and Jack Antonoff. If she goes Pop, I do hope she leans more into an alternative-rock style of Pop music because I think it would be something different for her and I think she has the voice for it.
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Post by CoJoFan on Apr 13, 2023 12:17:53 GMT -5
Not as comical as Justin Moore being in it and winning it in 2014 after he had released 3 albums. Dylan isn’t gonna win it anyways. I honestly think it’s gonna go to Bailey Zimmerman.
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Post by blueguitar on Apr 13, 2023 12:30:29 GMT -5
Genuinely what is Sony doing for Maren this album cycle? I’m honestly surprised. It's more of Maren than her label IMO. I love Maren, but I think she's just turned away people in the industry and the general country community due to her politics. The launch for "Humble Quest" was pretty good and they made the best single choices for the material they had, but she obviously had no buzz for her music. If anyone was talking about her, it was because of something she did or said. That said, I think her next project will be her shift to Pop as she's been working with Greg Kurstin and Jack Antonoff. If she goes Pop, I do hope she leans more into an alternative-rock style of Pop music because I think it would be something different for her and I think she has the voice for it. Like her and her politics or not, a big part of it has to do with her approach. She has been pretty nasty and unprofessional. Compare to, say, Kellsea and the CMT performance with a big smile on her face. There's something to be said for "kill them with kindness" vs. Maren's scorched earth approach which seems to be proving her ego may have gotten too big for her britches. It's really too bad.
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Post by Music Fan on Apr 13, 2023 12:39:17 GMT -5
It's more of Maren than her label IMO. I love Maren, but I think she's just turned away people in the industry and the general country community due to her politics. The launch for "Humble Quest" was pretty good and they made the best single choices for the material they had, but she obviously had no buzz for her music. If anyone was talking about her, it was because of something she did or said. That said, I think her next project will be her shift to Pop as she's been working with Greg Kurstin and Jack Antonoff. If she goes Pop, I do hope she leans more into an alternative-rock style of Pop music because I think it would be something different for her and I think she has the voice for it. Like her and her politics or not, a big part of it has to do with her approach. She has been pretty nasty and unprofessional. Compare to, say, Kellsea and the CMT performance with a big smile on her face. There's something to be said for "kill them with kindness" vs. Maren's scorched earth approach which seems to be proving her ego may have gotten too big for her britches. It's really too bad. While I don't agree that Maren has approached things in a "nasty" way, I will concur that there's something about her general personality that is a bit off putting. This is how I have always felt about her. In any event, I don't think this era went down the drain just because of Maren's politics or personality. I think they made the best single choices for the material they had, but the material itself was not something to be amazed at. Rooting for Morgan to take EOTY. Will Bros. Osborne take Duo again? This year seems weaker than usual.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 13:50:25 GMT -5
Not as comical as Justin Moore being in it and winning it in 2014 after he had released 3 albums. Dylan isn’t gonna win it anyways. I honestly think it’s gonna go to Bailey Zimmerman. The funniest part with Justin Moore was the head of the ACM’s got called out and had to make a statement. From what I remember Justin was not eligible to have been nominated according to the criteria and the president of the ACM’s when asked to clarify said basically that the ACM board can change the rules on the fly if they see fit too. Lol
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Post by 14887fan on Apr 13, 2023 14:00:12 GMT -5
“Detour” had all the makings of being a great addition to Maren’s singles catalog. 💔
And, Maren’s engagement with political/social issues is almost certainly one of the reasons for her absence, and likely because of the side she’s been very vocally in support of. Her tour in 2022 was solid and sold wonderfully, capping it off with a huge arena finale at Bridgestone.
The CMTs happened last week; these nominees were undoubtedly solidified before Kelsea Ballerini’s (fantastic) performance. The real test will be at the CMAs this fall, as there is no reason for her to be missing from the ballot after her stellar output this year.
Jason Aldean’s EOTY nod is sitting right there, front and center, and he hasn’t necessarily done shit to earn something over/instead of/alongside Maren this year.
Country is going to continue doing what country does.
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Post by zdm1998 on Apr 13, 2023 14:03:14 GMT -5
idk maybe it's the Carrie fan in me, but seeing her sold out arena show in February and how she completely captivated the crowd, and did so with almost every other date on the tour (majority of which were sold out) makes me feel like a nomination was deserved.
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Post by CoJoFan on Apr 13, 2023 15:02:14 GMT -5
Not as comical as Justin Moore being in it and winning it in 2014 after he had released 3 albums. Dylan isn’t gonna win it anyways. I honestly think it’s gonna go to Bailey Zimmerman. The funniest part with Justin Moore was the head of the ACM’s got called out and had to make a statement. From what I remember Justin was not eligible to have been nominated according to the criteria and the president of the ACM’s when asked to clarify said basically that the ACM board can change the rules on the fly if they see fit too. Lol That’s probably why Dylan got nominated too. I think to be nominated you should have had at least only 1 album released or at least a couple singles that have charted well. The same case could be made for Caitlyn Smith in the New Female category. She’s released 3 albums and got nominated. While she’s not had the chart success as the 3 prominent contenders (Priscilla, Megan and Hailey) I don’t think they should’ve nominated her. I would’ve put Ashley Cooke in over her.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 13, 2023 15:16:38 GMT -5
I don't see the problem with nominating Caitlyn Smith for New Female. Has she been making music for a bit now? Yes, but honestly I doubt many country music fans have heard of her until recently so she is definitely still a new artist I feel like.
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Post by mnvikings on Apr 13, 2023 15:18:13 GMT -5
“Detour” had all the makings of being a great addition to Maren’s singles catalog. 💔 And, Maren’s engagement with political/social issues is almost certainly one of the reasons for her absence, and likely because of the side she’s been very vocally in support of. Her tour in 2022 was solid and sold wonderfully, capping it off with a huge arena finale at Bridgestone. The CMTs happened last week; these nominees were undoubtedly solidified before Kelsea Ballerini’s (fantastic) performance. The real test will be at the CMAs this fall, as there is no reason for her to be missing from the ballot after her stellar output this year. Jason Aldean’s EOTY nod is sitting right there, front and center, and he hasn’t necessarily done s**t to earn something over/instead of/alongside Maren this year. Country is going to continue doing what country does. From being on this site I’ve learned that the label is very important in getting nominations. Kelsea is on a smaller label so it’s a little tougher to get a female vocalist nod, but the past few singles have all been stellar hits so you can’t deny her this year. Miranda’s label constantly gets her nominations deserved or not. I’m not sure how she got them this year with her leaving the company.🤷♂️ I think Jason Aldean falls into the category of “let’s give a veteran act one last EOTY nomination before the new blood take over.” It happened to Garth Brooks, Chesney, Blake Shelton, Luke Bryan, Eric Church, and Keith Urban.
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Post by jab820 on Apr 13, 2023 15:56:18 GMT -5
And there are 6 new males with only 5 new females. They went out of their way to include him. Lmao.
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Post by jab820 on Apr 13, 2023 16:00:44 GMT -5
Genuinely what is Sony doing for Maren this album cycle? I’m honestly surprised. It's more of Maren than her label IMO. I love Maren, but I think she's just turned away people in the industry and the general country community due to her politics. The launch for "Humble Quest" was pretty good and they made the best single choices for the material they had, but she obviously had no buzz for her music. If anyone was talking about her, it was because of something she did or said. That said, I think her next project will be her shift to Pop as she's been working with Greg Kurstin and Jack Antonoff. If she goes Pop, I do hope she leans more into an alternative-rock style of Pop music because I think it would be something different for her and I think she has the voice for it. I think Maren absolutely should go pop and especially in the likeness you describe. There is nothing holding her in country music, unlike Kelsea who I think feels dually honored and trapped by her Opry membership.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 13, 2023 19:54:51 GMT -5
Eh, the Billboard list factors in touring, which she has a huge advantage over other female country artists. But when the album is outsold by Miranda's album first week, and the singles generally have low impacts, it's not that surprising she missed the awards on music. But what did Ashley do to get the nomination over Carrie? Be on a number one with Carly Pearce and released a critically acclaimed album in Lindeville.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 20:01:18 GMT -5
I can’t make sense of Carrie being left out of FVOTY. What Taste of Country said was really the perfect way to respond to this snub. “It’s a simple question: Is Carrie Underwood one of the Top 5 female artists in country music? With apologies to the 2023 ACM Awards nominees in this category, she’s No. 1 or No. 2. So, why no nomination? “
Plain and simple, is Carrie one of the top five women in country? Absolutely.
And I love all the women nominated, but Ashley makes zero sense getting nominated over Carrie. Especially considering Carrie’s tours are a force to be reckoned with. Sold out shows, state of the art performances, she gives her all to not even be recognized as one of the top women in the genre, which she absolutely is. And honestly, her single performances confirm that. Where others have had songs peak in the 40s/50s, Carrie never has.
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Post by schnetzka on Apr 13, 2023 20:12:59 GMT -5
I know she'll never do it but I wish Carrie transitioned over to pop since she isn't as respected as she should be in the country community. She's had pop songs so it wouldn't be out of left-field. I know she's entered the "too old" stage to be a popstar for the most part but I still would like to see it.
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Post by raylatch98 on Apr 13, 2023 20:19:39 GMT -5
I do wonder if UMG focused primarily on Entertainer and that Female kind of fell through the cracks or that they are really starting to hone in on Carrie Underwood being a legacy act with these award shows.
I will say for me I am not that shocked Carrie Underwood missed out, Carly Pearce, Lainey Wilson, and Kelsea Ballerini all deserved the nomination more than her and I will debate anyone on that. As for Miranda Lambert, it is important to note that Miranda's album was a bit more of a critical darling and she had a bit more of a commercial impact. While for Ashley McBryde she is a complete critic bait artist. I do like Carrie Underwood but Denim & Rhinestones wasn't quite critic catnip (then again Carrie Underwood has never been awarded that much for her albums at Country award shows) and single/commercial wise none of the songs from the latest album have left a big impression at all with consumers (hell if it wasn't for Pulse I would forget she released an album).
The touring, sold out shows and what she puts on is probably amazing, but I do think she and UMG are embracing her as a legacy act and while strong touring is enough to get into Entertainer I do get why it wouldn't hold as much weight for Female Vocalist.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2023 21:43:28 GMT -5
I just cant get why Ashley is nominated over Carrie. I am used to Miranda but for them both to be nominated due to critical reception sort of upsets me. I think commercial should matter just as much and while D&R didn’t do amazing commercially, Carrie’s singles have charted higher than Ashley and Miranda’s did. That combined with her amazing and sold out tour, the residency, etc, it seems like it should have been a no brainer for getting nominated
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Post by 14887fan on Apr 14, 2023 13:43:49 GMT -5
Carrie is transitioning into a new phase in her career, whether her diehards want to admit it or not. She’s still one of the biggest forces in the genre/industry; she’s just not picking up as much hardware as she was at the start of her career. FWIW, Miranda Lambert isn’t, either. Didn’t she just go 0/3 or 0/4 (or whatever) at the CMAs this past November, off the back of the Palomino era? I know she’s the most direct comparison CU fans enjoy to make in these situations, but their cases are relatively congruent. (Difference is, Miranda’s making more well-written music, let’s all be frank here.)
CU will be just fine shifting into becoming a mainstay in the Entertainer categories at these shows. Whether she wins or not seems to be a separate case (/issue, at times), but she’s now consistently up against giants like Luke Combs and Morgan Wallen, who have streaming numbers (and WME) on their side.
I’m sure Carrie will be just fine without a Female Artist of the Year nomination at the hot Thursday-night-in-Frisco ACMs. She’s got 8 shiny Grammys that can keep her satisfied. Hopefully her fans can follow suit and enjoy themselves a little more.
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Post by rsandcm1 on Apr 15, 2023 0:54:57 GMT -5
Not as comical as Justin Moore being in it and winning it in 2014 after he had released 3 albums. Dylan isn’t gonna win it anyways. I honestly think it’s gonna go to Bailey Zimmerman. The funniest part with Justin Moore was the head of the ACM’s got called out and had to make a statement. From what I remember Justin was not eligible to have been nominated according to the criteria and the president of the ACM’s when asked to clarify said basically that the ACM board can change the rules on the fly if they see fit too. Lol I will still never get over their "Song Of The Year" category from 2018. #1)They only had 4 nominees. #2)One of those nominees was a Chris Stapleton album track ("Whiskey And You") from his "Traveler" album 3 years prior.
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Post by onebuffalo on Apr 18, 2023 18:42:05 GMT -5
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Post by onebuffalo on Apr 25, 2023 18:28:55 GMT -5
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Post by countrymancarriefan on Apr 26, 2023 22:41:29 GMT -5
Performers announced tomorrow!
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Post by recordyear on Apr 27, 2023 9:44:53 GMT -5
First round of performers: Jason Aldean, Kane Brown, Luke Combs, Cody Johnson, Miranda Lambert, Jo Dee Messina, Ashley McBryde, Dolly Parton, Jelly Roll, Cole Swindell, Keith Urban, Morgan Wallen, The War And Treaty, Lainey Wilson, and Bailey Zimmerman
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Post by recordyear on May 8, 2023 8:32:16 GMT -5
Bonfire at Tina's performance featuring basically the same artists in the When Will I Be Loved performance in CMA Awards (Ashley McBryde, Brandy Clark, Caylee Hammack, Pillbox Patti, John Osborne). http://instagr.am/p/Cr-6nNIuW7p
Officially announced:
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Post by carriefan15 on May 8, 2023 22:05:18 GMT -5
Hard to believe this is just a few days away. The fact that this is on Amazon Prime + the CMT Awards being on CBS at the time of year this used to be, it’s no wonder this kinda feels like a non-event so far . I really doubt casual country fans even know that it’s on this Thursday.
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Post by recordyear on May 9, 2023 8:32:59 GMT -5
Ed Sheeran will perform.
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Post by Troublemaker on May 9, 2023 9:04:52 GMT -5
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Post by raylatch98 on May 9, 2023 9:14:43 GMT -5
Yeah, I like Ed Sheeran well enough but this feels kind of pointless to an extent to have him perform when their are other country singers that probably should.
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Post by recordyear on May 9, 2023 9:16:49 GMT -5
With how much Ed Sheeran has influenced the contemporary country music circa mid 2010s like Die A Happy Man being a ripoff of Thinking Out Loud, I am surprised he did not appear on these shows until now.
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Post by schnetzka on May 9, 2023 9:38:55 GMT -5
Plenty of non-country artists have appeared and performed on country music award shows before so this isn't as left-field as some of you are acting lol.
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