Billboard Hot 100: 02/25/2023

[JukeboxJacob]

Feb 17, 2023 20:20:53 GMT -5 kindofbiased said:

Prayer circle everyone let's pray Running Out Of Time by Paramore was popular enough to chart this week (it wasn't)

It'll be a hit, even if it takes a while to get there. It's too good of a song not to be

EDIT: I also think This Is Why has a chance to go somewhere too

[kindofbiased]

Feb 17, 2023 20:25:21 GMT -5 JukeboxJacob said:

Feb 17, 2023 20:20:53 GMT -5 kindofbiased said:

Prayer circle everyone let's pray Running Out Of Time by Paramore was popular enough to chart this week (it wasn't)

It'll be a hit, even if it takes a while to get there. It's too good of a song not to be

I don't actually expect Paramore to have a big chart hit this album it's mostly wishful thinking :/ at least they're doing well on the rock charts!!

[firefox]

They can chart Falling in Reverse but not Paramore?? 🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Feb 17, 2023 16:50:05 GMT -5 elementd5 said:

Feb 17, 2023 12:52:03 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

I think they were asking more of why Chloe (or any artist for that matter) is still collaboration with Chris Brown, regardless of commercial reasons.

They mentioned that her audience wouldn’t approve and that other artists (for example, the Weeknd) would be more commercially viable, when neither are true. Chloe’s audience is the Urban/Rhythmic audience and Chris Brown is easily one of, if not the most successful male R&B singles artist there these past few years.

I understand the commercial aspect and the song will probably do well because of him. 

That doesn't negate why anyone is still working with Chris Brown

[elementd5]

Feb 17, 2023 23:56:25 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

Feb 17, 2023 16:50:05 GMT -5 elementd5 said:

They mentioned that her audience wouldn’t approve and that other artists (for example, the Weeknd) would be more commercially viable, when neither are true. Chloe’s audience is the Urban/Rhythmic audience and Chris Brown is easily one of, if not the most successful male R&B singles artist there these past few years.

I understand the commercial aspect and the song will probably do well because of him. 

That doesn't negate why anyone is still working with Chris Brown

But nearly every major / charting successful woman-identified R&B artist has still not only worked with him but has released singles with him . . . at this point the “uproar” when another does, it’s just trolling.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

Feb 18, 2023 1:16:12 GMT -5 elementd5 said:

Feb 17, 2023 23:56:25 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

I understand the commercial aspect and the song will probably do well because of him. 

That doesn't negate why anyone is still working with Chris Brown

But nearly every major / charting successful woman-identified R&B artist has still not only worked with him but has released singles with him . . . at this point the “uproar” when another does, it’s just trolling.

I don't like it when others do it either so this isn't selective. I have also called others for doing so.

[JukeboxJacob]

here comes my take

1. Chris Brown is problematic in serious ways and shows little to no signs of character growth, even after years. Artists just shouldn't be collabing with him
2. There's more talented, more underrated artists that deserve collabs more than him

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - 02/16/23

1(+1) PinkPantheress, Ice Spice - Boy's a liar Pt. 2 2,196,321 (+76,666)
2(-1) SZA - Kill Bill 2,160,433 (-13,049)
3(=) Miley Cyrus - Flowers 1,557,911 (-97,787)
4(=) Morgan Wallen - Last Night 1,463,829 (-21,777)
5(=) Lil Uzi Vert - Just Wanna Rock 1,135,473 (+19,896)
6(=) Metro Boomin, The Weeknd, 21 Savage - Creepin' 1,036,655 (-403)
7(=) Metro Boomin, Future, Chris Brown - Superhero (Heroes & Villains) 1,034,761 (+980)
8(+1) Drake, 21 Savage - Rich Flex 947,270 (+13,880)
9(+1) The Weeknd - Die For You 919,066 (-8,892)
10(+2) Miguel - Sure Thing 804,634 (-8,072)

Rihanna Songs
28(+1) Rihanna, Calvin Harris - We Found Love 578,611 (-43,617)
30(-3) Rihanna - Bitch Better Have My Money 573,878 (-59,743)
32(-7) Rihanna, Jay-Z - Umbrella 568,656 (-78,212)
47(-17) Rihanna - Love On the Brain 508,047 (-87,404)
49(-12) Rihanna - Diamonds 491,954 (-59,757)
53(-12) Rihanna - Needed Me 482,930 (-45,840)
57(-12) Rihanna - Only Girl (in the World) 477,582 (-43,625)
58(-8) Rihanna, Jay-Z, Kanye West - Run This Town 476,233 (-32,776)
73(-12) Rihanna - Pour It Up 441,412 (-31,930)
80(-22) Rihanna - Where Have You Been 425,366 (-57,494)
89(-24) Rihanna, Mikky Ekko - Stay 403,138 (-61,556)
91(-11) Rihanna, Drake - Work 397,182 (-39,208)
112(-23) Rihanna - Lift Me Up 363,657 (-40,704)
117(-29) Rihanna - Rude Boy 360,333 (-47,916)
131(-24) Rihanna - Don't Stop the Music 339,426 (-39,074)
133(-31) Rihanna - S&M 336,558 (-47,350)
192(-47) DJ Khaled, Rihanna, Bryson Tiller - Wild Thoughts 296,440 (-31,124)
200(-64) Rihanna - Disturbia 290,475 (-43,624)

Others:
11(+2) Harry Styles - As It Was 792,854 (-5,841)
12(-1) JVKE - golden hour 791,517 (-21,891)
13(+1) Steve Lacy - Bad Habit 785,465 (+3,376)
14(+4) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 751,492 (+3,065)
16(+1) SZA - Snooze 741,070 (-23,190)
17(+2) Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero 735,052 (+160)
18(+2) Luke Combs - Love You Anyway 725,614 (+12,614)
19(+2) Sam Smith, Kim Petras - Unholy 703,919 (-8,021)
20(+3) J. Cole - No Role Modelz 696,925 (+25,416)
21(+3) SZA - Low 665,221 (+1,203)
22(=) d4vd - Here With Me 649,999 (-44,912)
23(-15) beabadoobee - Glue Song 637,207 (-309,479)
24(+2) Coi Leray - Players 626,322 (-19,765)
25(+3) RAYE, 070 Shake - Escapism. 616,794 (-12,911)
26(+5) Bizarrap, Shakira - Shakira: Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 53 599,259 (+3,977)
27(+7) NewJeans - OMG 582,755 (+9,626)
29(+4) Bailey Zimmerman - Rock and A Hard Place 574,030 (-1,978)
31(+1) Fuerza Regida, Grupo Frontera - Bebe Dame 569,713 (-19,212)
34(-19) Lana Del Rey - A&W 549,950 (-218,288) 
35(+5) The Neighbourhood - Sweater Weather 548,596 (+10,990)
36(+3) Tory Lanez - The Color Violet 546,466 (+3,866)
37(-2) Morgan Wallen - You Proof 546,442 (-15,998)
38(=) The Kid LAROI - Love Again 542,021 (-8,134)
39(+5) SZA - Shirt 534,811 (+10,164)
40(+39) Lil Uzi Vert, sped up nightcore, ARIZONATEARS - Watch This (ARIZONATEARS Pluggnb Remix) 530,935 (+94,247) (+22%)
41(+1) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 530,053 (+2,839)
42(+4) David Guetta, Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue) 522,610 (+6,772)
44(+8) Lizzy McAlpine - ceilings 519,219 (+17,761)
45(+3) Taylor Swift - Lavender Haze 514,408 (+2,102)
48(+1) Mac DeMarco - Heart to Heart 492,772 (-18,980)
51(=) ThxSoMch - SPIT IN MY FACE! 486,255 (-18,413)
52(+2) The Weeknd, Lana Del Rey - Stargirl Interlude 484,725 (-3,986)
54(+13) Metro Boomin, 21 Savage - Glock in My Lap 462,901 (-627)
56(-3) Hotel Ugly - Shut up My Moms Calling 479,378 (-10,349)
59(-4) Zach Bryan, Maggie Rogers - Dawns 476,033 (-11,824)
60(-1) Natanael Cano, Peso Pluma, Gabito Ballesteros - AMG 474,284 (-4,052)
62(+1) SZA - Nobody Gets Me 464,844 (-4,610)
64(+5) Rema, Selena Gomez - Calm Down 463,077 (+6,595)
65(+8) Peso Pluma, Natanael Cano - PRC 461,509 (+11,812)
66(+15) Lil Baby - Freestyle 459,419 (+25,891)
67(-5) Morgan Wallen - I Wrote the Book 458,953 (-11,733)
69(+7) Ice Spice - In Ha Mood 456,941 (+14,962)
70(+4) Linkin Park - Lost 448,685 (+105)
71(-1) Beyoncé - CUFF IT 446,442 (-9,265)
74(+4) Arctic Monkeys - 505 440,578 (+2,938)
75(DEBUT) NF - HOPE 437,614
76(-5) Carin Leon, Grupo Frontera - Que Vuelvas 436,480 (-16,097)
77(-11) Luke Combs - The Kind of Love We Make 433,975 (-29,249)
79(-19) Stephen Sanchez, Em Beihold - Until I Found You [Duet] 427,816 (-49,139)
81(+1) Sabrina Carpenter - Nonsense 417,064 (-15,844)
84(+11) Yeat - Out thë way 412,100 (+19,209)
85(-1) Morgan Wallen - Thought You Should Know 410,954 (-17,572)
86(+37) Superstar Pride - PAINTING PICTURES 409,016 (+60,929) (+18%)
87(+6) NewJeans - Ditto 407,840 (+7,100)
88(+3) Beach House - Space Song 406,495 (+3,629)
90(-22) $uicideboy$, Shake Well - Big Shot Cream Soda 400,266 (-61,218)
93(+10) Metro Boomin, Future, Don Toliver - Too Many Nights 393,602  (+11,139)
94(+10) SZA - Blind 389,611 (+8,101)
96(-4) PinkPantheress - Boy's a liar 388,267 (-14,416)
99(-9) SZA, Phoebe Bridgers - Ghost in the Machine 384,549 (-18,369)
100(-3) Arctic Monkeys - I Wanna Be Yours 382,481 (-7,436)

101(+4) Manuel Turizo - La Bachata 379,984 (-1,146)
104(+4) Morgan Wallen - Everything I Love 372,681 (-5,510)
105(+7) Metro Boomin, Travis Scott, 21 Savage - Niagara Falls (Foot or 2) 371,036 (+5,792)
106(+5) Arcángel, Bad Bunny - La Jumpa 366,968 (+273)
108(+1) Morgan Wallen - One Thing At A Time 365,331 (-7,505)
110(-11) TV Girl - Lovers Rock 364,839 (-22,467)
113(-3) Meghan Trainor - Made You Look 362,271 (-5,272)
118(+12) Lizzo, SZA - Special 359,612 (+19,609)
121(+12) Baby Tate - Hey, Mickey! 354,137 (+15,315)
123(+8) NLE Choppa - Slut Me Out 353,010 (+13,032)
124(-8) Cigarettes After Sex - Apocalypse 352,567 (-7,096)
135(+4) The Weeknd, Gesaffelstein - I Was Never There 334,445 (+2,581)
136(+6) Zach Bryan - Heading South 331,460 (+1,050)
139(+1) Chris Brown - Under the Influence 329,607  (-1,552)
143(+3) Yandel, Feid - Yandel 150 326,303 (-1,090)
149(-6) Grupo Frontera - No Se Va 320,769 (-8,199)
156(DEBUT) Grupo Marca Registrada, Grupo Frontera - Di Que Si 315,538
157(-4) Miguel - Girl With The Tattoo Enter.lewd 315,436  (-2,111)
159(+13) Future - Solo 314,602 (+7,000)
160(-8) Ñengo Flow, Bad Bunny - Gato de Noche 314,065 (-4,696)
165(-6) Zach Bryan - Sun to Me 311,820 (-3,122)
166(-4) Tiësto, Tate McRae - 10:35 311,062 (-2,469)
167(-10) PARTYNEXTDOOR - Break from Toronto 311,007 (-4,318)
171(re-entry) Mae Stephens - If We Ever Broke Up 307,762
172(-7) Brent Faiyaz - Clouded 307,054 (-4,683)
175(+3) Beach Weather - Sex, Drugs, Etc. 305,892 (+638)
176(-42) Stephen Sanchez - Until I Found You 305,485 (-29,598)
180(re-entry) KAROL G, Romeo Santos - X SI VOLVEMOS 303,445
181(re-entry) Dove Cameron, Khalid - We Go Down Together 303,253
183(-9) Tom Odell - Another Love 301,431 (-5,714)
189(-5) Mac DeMarco - For the first time 297,577 (-3,633)
190(-16) Oscar Maydon, Junior H - Fin de Semana 297,010 (-14,796)
191(re-entry) Ghostluvme, Lil Uzi Vert - Fact 296,517

Total Streams for Boy's a liar: 2,584,588
Total Streams for Until I Found You: 733,301 (Would be #18 with combined streams)

Biggest Gains (50K+): PAINTING PICTURES, Watch This (ARIZONATEARS Pluggnb Remix), Boy's a liar Pt. 2

[HamedM1 💔]

I mean I'm just saying if Miguel (Primetime, Show Me Love, DEATH FANTASY, Good Intentions, Lost In Your Light) or Channel Tres (HMU for a Good Time, Attention Whore, Impact, Lavender, Fever Dreamer) became the mainstream go to guys for collabs over Chris Brown the world would be a much better place.

Cause this Chris Brown revival is undeserved.

[kcdawg13]

Feb 17, 2023 16:50:05 GMT -5 elementd5 said:

Feb 17, 2023 12:52:03 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

I think they were asking more of why Chloe (or any artist for that matter) is still collaboration with Chris Brown, regardless of commercial reasons.

They mentioned that her audience wouldn’t approve and that other artists (for example, the Weeknd) would be more commercially viable, when neither are true. Chloe’s audience is the Urban/Rhythmic audience and Chris Brown is easily one of, if not the most successful male R&B singles artist there these past few years.

I meant if they were gonna choose a commercially viable artist to attempt at a hit, they could've grabbed the many other huge R&B males. The Weeknd is more pop now but he still has an R&B background and is one of the most successful in that genre, along with artists like Usher, Khalid, Miguel, etc.

I understand Chris Brown is huge, but picking him seems like the wrong choice overall. She could've also, I don't know, collabed with another female artist. These R&B girls seem to be allergic to each other because there's a shocking lack of R&B girl collabs.

[renfield75]

Feb 18, 2023 3:40:23 GMT -5 HamedM1 💔 said:

I mean I'm just saying if Miguel (Primetime, Show Me Love, DEATH FANTASY, Good Intentions, Lost In Your Light) or Channel Tres (HMU for a Good Time, Attention Whore, Impact, Lavender, Fever Dreamer) became the mainstream go to guys for collabs over Chris Brown the world would be a much better place.

Cause this Chris Brown revival is undeserved.

Primetime is probably one of my top 5 songs of the 2010s. Dear Lord that song is so good.

[dremolus - solarpunk]

US Spotify - Week 02/16/23

1(=) SZA - Kill Bill 15,346,454
2(+7) PinkPantheress, Ice Spice - Boy's a liar Pt. 2 14,396,369
3(-1) Miley Cyrus - Flowers 11,877,275
4(-1) Morgan Wallen - Last Night 10,727,952
5(=) Lil Uzi Vert - Just Wanna Rock 7,874,027
6(-2) Metro Boomin, The Weeknd, 21 Savage - Creepin' 7,212,869
7(=) Metro Boomin, Future, Chris Brown - Superhero (Heroes & Villains) 7,094,183
8(-2) Drake, 21 Savage - Rich Flex 6,658,887
9(+1) The Weeknd - Die For You 6,235,136
10(DEBUT) Luke Combs - Love You Anyway 6,183,104

Rihanna Songs
22(DEBUT) Rihanna, Jay-Z - Umbrella 4,584,400
31(DEBUT) Rihanna, Calvin Harris - We Found Love 3,925,009
34(re-entry) Rihanna - Love On The Brain 3,870,474
42(re-entry) Rihanna - Needed Me 3,629,117
47(DEBUT) Rihanna - Bitch Better Have My Money 3,475,724
50(DEBUT) Rihanna - Diamonds 3,425,478
59(DEBUT) Rihanna - Only Girl in the World 3,270,892
64(DEBUT) Rihanna, Mikky Ekko - Stay 3,181,933
65(DEBUT) Jay-Z, Rihanna, Kanye West - Run This Town 3,160,742
80(re-entry) Rihanna - Lift Me Up 2,860,063
81(DEBUT) Rihanna - Don't Stop the Music 2,843,353
89(DEBUT) Rihanna - Where Have You Been 2,721,856
104(DEBUT) Rihanna - S&M 2,587,896
107(re-entry) Rihanna - Work 2,546,091
108(DEBUT) Rihanna - Pour It Up 2,542,278
124(re-entry) Rihanna - Disturbia 2,345,106
125(DEBUT) Rihanna - Rude Boy 2,337,320
186(DEBUT) Eminem, Rihanna - Love the Way You Lie 2,013,590
198(DEBUT) Rihanna - Pon De Replay 1,969,064

11(=) Harry Styles - Harry Styles - As It Was 5,707,104
12(+1) Miguel - Sure Thing 5,669,935
13(+2) JVKE - golden hour 5,595,021
14(-2) Steve Lacy - Bad Habit 5,565,169
15(-1) Taylor Swift - Anti-Hero 5,318,603
16(-8) Sam Smith, Kim Petras - Unholy 5,220,899
18(+2) SZA - Snooze 5,187,628
19(-2) Zach Bryan - Something in the Orange 5,107,685
20(=) SZA - Low 4,690,532
21(+1) d4vd - Here With Me 4,626,255
23(=) J. Cole - No Role Modelz 4,557,484
24(+19) Coi Leray - Players 4,465,323
25(=) RAYE, 070 Shake - Escapism. 4,459,247
26(-7) Bizarrap, Shakira - Shakira: Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 53 4,432,646
27(-1) Fuerza Regida, Grupo Frontera - Bebe Dame 4,207,309
28(+2) NewJeans - OMG 4,137,634
29(-13) The Kid LAROI - Love Again 4,116,905
30(DEBUT) Linkin Park - Lost 4,036,913
31(+1) Bailey Zimmerman - Rock and A Hard Place 3,959,139
36(=) David Guetta, Bebe Rexha - I'm Good (Blue) 3,700,184
37(-8) Taylor Swift - Lavender Haze 3,685,721
39(-11) Tory Lanez - The Color Violet 3,679,146
40(-3) SZA - Shirt 3,673,128
41(-7) The Neighbourhood - Sweater Weather 3,653,090
45(+12) Steve Lacy - Dark Red 3,581,661
46(-22) Zach Bryan, Maggie Rogers - Dawns 3,496,729
48(+17) Natanael Cano, Peso Pluma, Gabito Ballesteros - AMG 3,459,809
49(-22) Morgan Wallen - I Wrote the Book 3,426,222
51(-5) Mac DeMarco - Heart to Heart 3,405,245
52(-11) Beyoncé - CUFF IT 3,388,576
53(-20) Hotel Ugly - Shut up My Moms Calling 3,331,223
54(-1) ThxSoMch - SPIT IN MY FACE! 3,313,230
56(+10) Peso Pluma, Natanael Cano - PRC 3,288,869
57(-19) SZA - Nobody Gets Me 3,277,610
60(-9) Carin Leon, Grupo Frontera - Que Vuelvas 3,260,949
61(-11) Luke Combs - The Kind of Love We Make 3,242,188
63(=) Rema, Selena Gomez - Calm Down 3,183,358
66(+31) Ice Spice - In Ha Mood 3,159,641
67(-11) The Weeknd, Lana Del Rey - Stargirl Interlude 3,152,596
68(+5) Metro Boomin, 21 Savage - Glock in My Lap 3,085,487
70(+2) Stephen Sanchez, Em Beihold - Until I Found You [Duet] 2,998,548
71(-19) Sabrina Carpenter - Nonsense 2,996,615
73(-12) Arctic Monkeys - 505 2,977,112
74(-19) Lil Baby - Freestyle 2,975,524
75(+20) Lizzy McAlpine - ceilings 2,973,668
77(-13) Morgan Wallen - Thought You Should Know 2,938,785
78(-33) NewJeans - Ditto 2,927,841
79(-31) PinkPantheress - Boy's a liar 2,884,905
82(-47) Morgan Wallen - Everything I Love 2,780,970
87(-13) Yeat - Out thë way 2,756,301
88(-21) Manuel Turizo - La Bachata 2,730,118
90(-21) Beach House - Space Song 2,703,328
91(-32) Arcángel, Bad Bunny - La Jumpa 2,702,876
92(-22) SZA - Blind 2,694,215
93(DEBUT) Lil Uzi Vert, sped up nightcore, ARIZONATEARS - Watch This (ARIZONATEARS Pluggnb Remix) 2,691,242
94(-23) Morgan Wallen - One Thing At A Time 2,681,379
95(+8) SZA - Ghost in the Machine 2,673,641
96(DEBUT) Lizzo, SZA - Special 2,667,104
100(-16) Meghan Trainor - Made You Look 2,603,313

101(-21) Metro Boomin, Future, Don Toliver - Too Many Nights 2,600,189
103(-24) Arctic Monkeys - I Wanna Be Yours 2,590,421
106(-13) Metro Boomin, Travis Scott, 21 Savage - Niagara Falls (Foot or 2) 2,539,866
110(+32) Chris Stapleton - Tennessee Whiskey 2,517,150
112(-25) Baby Tate - Hey, Mickey! 2,489,839
114(-13) TV Girl - Lovers Rock 2,463,137
119(-8) Grupo Frontera - No Se Va 2,387,408
120(-20) Cigarettes After Sex - Apocalypse 2,376,269
123(-3) Yandel, Feid - Yandel 150 2,349,635
127(-28) Ñengo Flow, Bad Bunny - Gato de Noche 2,317,735
132(+67) NLE Choppa - Slut Me Out 2,275,494
136(-26) Chris Brown - Under the Influence 2,266,103
137(-46) Kali Uchis - I Wish you Roses 2,250,809
138(+56) Mac Miller - The Spins 2,250,746
139(-35) The Weeknd, Gesaffelstein - I Was Never There 2,247,652
143(-4) Zach Bryan - Heading South 2,207,539
144(DEBUT) Ghostluvme, Lil Uzi Vert - Fact 2,201,378
146(-92) KAROL G, Romeo Santos - X SI VOLVEMOS 2,199,577
148(-63) Oscar Maydon, Junior H - Fin de Samana 2,176,064
149(-5) Stephen Sanchez - Until I Found You 2,172,517
153(-32) Tiësto, Tate McRae - 10:35 2,158,952
154(DEBUT) beabadoobee - Glue Song 2,145,273
162(DEBUT) Paramore - Running Out of Time 2,114,635
163(-47) PARTYNEXTDOOR - Break from Toronto 2,111,829
169(-41) Brent Faiyaz - Clouded 2,077,946
171(-28) Zach Bryan - Sun to Me 2,063,561
172(-86) Luke Combs - Growin' Up and Gettin' Old 2,058,231
175(-34) Future - Solo 2,056,752
176(-36) Miguel - Girl With The Tattoo Enter.lewd 2,051,689
177(-24) Tom Odell - Another Love 2,049,660
179(=) Kane Brown, Katelyn Brown 2,048,376
181(-31) Beach Weather - Sex, Drugs, Etc. 2,044,526
183(re-entry) PinkPantheress - Pain 2,029,781
188(-15) Lainey Wilson - Heart Like A Truck 2,011,049
189(-32) Freddie Dredd - Limbo 2,004,184
192(-22) Mac DeMarco - For the First Time 1,990,859
193(-31) Mac DeMarco - Chamber of Reflection 1,984,066
196(-24) Baby Keem - HONEST 1,976,026
197(-71) Billie Eilish - TV 1,975,509
200(-29) Noah Kahan - Stick Season 1,949,123

Total Streams for Boy's a liar: 17,281,274
Total Streams for Until I Found You: 5,171,065

Kill Bill stays on top for a sixth total week, stabilizing with only a drop of 1% but ironically was not the top track this week. The big story of course is Boy's a liar Pt. 2, continuing it's momentum by climbing up to #2, shooting up massively by 107% and with both Boy's a liar songs combined, would be the top song this week. And in terms of other movements in the Top 10, we had the biggest new song of the week as Love You Anyway debuts at #10.

But that wasn't the biggest story this week as thanks to her (underwhelming) Superbowl performance, Rihanna managed to have 19 of her songs re-enter. This meant though that we didn't get as many gains as we did last week.

Notable Gains:
In Ha Mood - 20%
Slut Me Out - 20%
Players - 19%
The Spins - 18%
Tennessee Whiskey - 17%
ceilings - 15%
Dark Red - 13%
AMG - 12%

Finally with its respective streams combined, Until I Found You would be #19.

[Darkest Hour]

Why do y'all assume Chloe will only collaborate with Chris Brown in her upcoming album?

[dremolus - solarpunk]

When did we say we're assuming that's her only collab?

[Darkest Hour]

kcdawg13's comment: "if they were gonna choose a commercially viable artist to attempt at a hit, they could've grabbed the many other huge R&B males." and "She could've also, I don't know, collabed with another female artist"

Or maybe I get the tone wrong.

[kcdawg13]

Feb 18, 2023 6:37:57 GMT -5 Darkest Hour said:

kcdawg13's comment: "if they were gonna choose a commercially viable artist to attempt at a hit, they could've grabbed the many other huge R&B males." and "She could've also, I don't know, collabed with another female artist"

Or maybe I get the tone wrong.

The whole point is why choose Chris Brown at all, that's the point I'm making. 

[elementd5]

Feb 18, 2023 8:02:33 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

Feb 18, 2023 6:37:57 GMT -5 Darkest Hour said:

kcdawg13's comment: "if they were gonna choose a commercially viable artist to attempt at a hit, they could've grabbed the many other huge R&B males." and "She could've also, I don't know, collabed with another female artist"

Or maybe I get the tone wrong.

The whole point is why choose Chris Brown at all, that's the point I'm making. 

But, at this point, most artists are collaborating with him. This is Chloe’s second (?) collaboration with him. They were on a song together just last year.

Otherwise, might as well stop listening to R&B music because the majority of the industry is supporting him and has for over a decade.

[Caviar]

So people just wake up and decide to be mad about something? Chris will never be canceled and he’ll continue to collaborate with R&B artists as long as the check is right. People are mad but not streaming or buying anything from Chloe's solo stuff anyway. Make it make sense.

[atg]

Feb 18, 2023 8:02:33 GMT -5 kcdawg13 said:

Feb 18, 2023 6:37:57 GMT -5 Darkest Hour said:

kcdawg13's comment: "if they were gonna choose a commercially viable artist to attempt at a hit, they could've grabbed the many other huge R&B males." and "She could've also, I don't know, collabed with another female artist"

Or maybe I get the tone wrong.

The whole point is why choose Chris Brown at all, that's the point I'm making. 

Honestly i would agree with the whole not collaborating with Chris Brown thing, but he’s been getting bigger hits recently compared to his early to mid 2010s run, this time added with longevity (No Guidance, Go Crazy, Under The Influence). So if he’s still big and has proven it, then some artists and labels would also think that and would wanna collab with him regardless of the opinions critics and the GP have towards him. He has somewhat of a loyal fan base as well, which will even go as far as to actually listen to all of his like 50+ song albums, so there’s no doubt they would be there if he was featured on a song with someone. I really wish that these artists would get someone else on their songs but getting CB has been easy and proven to (unfortunately) successfully work most of the time.

[85la]

Feb 18, 2023 1:16:12 GMT -5 elementd5 said:

Feb 17, 2023 23:56:25 GMT -5 dremolus - solarpunk said:

I understand the commercial aspect and the song will probably do well because of him. 

That doesn't negate why anyone is still working with Chris Brown

But nearly every major / charting successful woman-identified R&B artist has still not only worked with him but has released singles with him . . . at this point the “uproar” when another does, it’s just trolling.

Trolling?? Lmao

The exact opposite of what you're saying is true. Almost EVERY major female R&B artist who has been popular in the same time as Chris Brown has been able to do so without working with him, or at least by not releasing any majorly promoted singles with him that have been successful, from Beyonce to Alicia Keys, SZA, Summer Walker, H.E.R., etc. You're making it seem like a Chris Brown collab is a necessary requisite to achieving or maintaining success, when it's anything but.

[iHype.]

Jack Harlow, Lil Wayne, Andersen Paak, Metro Boomin, Gunna, Lil Baby, etc have all released collaborations with Chris Brown in the past year alone. They received zero backlash, questioning, etc. Nobody cared.

I know you all think you are being on a moral high ground by calling it out when Chloe does it, but it seems ironically sexist and hypocritical just bashing on a select female artist for doing something you have no issue with male artists doing nor feel the need to bring it up.

Why did none of those other artists face any strong criticism when they did the same thing? None of you were 'disappointed', questioning why they chose him of all male R&B artists, and suddenly waiting for their album to flop.

Hundreds of artists have collaborated with him the past decade at this point, it seems like the issue would be a general industry-wide thing then singling out specific artists. Again though this comes down to ethics of cancelling artists -- it will never be universally agreed upon what and which artists deserved to be cancelled and whether it's morally right to listen to their music. Trying to dictate on why anyone else would continue supporting, collaborating with, listening to, etc is just going to go nowhere.

[jayhawk1117]

My personal take is it’s obviously different when Women (especially black women) collab with him than men. Because a lot of the reasons ME personally don’t fuck with him is because of his NUMEROUS acts of violence and hatred towards women.

I don’t like when Men collab with him either but I’ve given up expecting men in music, especially fellow straight Hiphop/Urban men, to give a damn about doing anything about someone that has on multiple occasions showed his ass.

Obviously he’s “uncancelable” at this point, his d-riders will never give it up and neither will the audience. I’ll just personally continue to not stream songs he’s on and be content with that 🤷🏾‍♂️

[iHype.]

Feb 18, 2023 15:50:56 GMT -5 jayhawk1117 said:

My personal take is it’s obviously different when Women (especially black women) collab with him than men. Because a lot of the reasons ME personally don’t f**k with him is because of his NUMEROUS acts of violence and hatred towards women.

I don’t like when Men collab with him either but I’ve given up expecting men in music, especially fellow straight Hiphop/Urban men, to give a damn about doing anything about someone that has on multiple occasions showed his ass.

Obviously he’s “uncancelable” at this point, his d-riders will never give it up and neither will the audience. I’ll just personally continue to not stream songs he’s on and be content with that 🤷🏾‍♂️

But this also goes beyond Chris Brown to be frank.

Katy got large backlash for collaborating with Migos during 2017, Kim Petras/Doja Cat get large backlash for collaborating with Dr. Luke, etc. 

Usually when a person in the music industry is deemed largely problematic or cancelled it tends to be female artists that get a strong backlash for working with them while male artists get largely unquestioned. 

Ofcourse I get that Pop-culture tends to largely stan female artists so naturally they'll generate more discussion and reaction period with those crowds (and also many fans hold them to 'higher standards'), but in a way it just seems like further enabling traditional sexism.

Blaming and holding only women accountable for not following some standard of ethics however when a male artist does similar people look the other way or shrug it off as 'well that's boys being boys' (essentially what you gestured when 'giving up on expecting men to make a right choice' even if unintentionally). 

I also think that it really is hard to dictate who should/shouldn't be listened to, collaborated with, etc because at some point its just unreasonable to uphold and veers into selectiveness and being hypocritical. There is (unfortunately) an endless list of people in the music industry who have done problematic things or worked with people who have, so at some point the picking and choosing at who should be publicly shamed gets ridiculous. There are certain names I will not listen to or support anything with their involvement, but I know that's my personal selection and my ethical view that isn't going to be universally shared.

[Fat Ass Kelly Price]

Know your fan base. The fan base of those people don’t give a shit about what Chris did. The Chloe’s fan base (or other rnb/pop girlies) do give a damn about what Chris has done. Know the demo of your core audience.

Is it a female vs male thing? Sure. But in the sense that men don’t give a fuck about violence against women. However, enough women do. And those women make up Chloe’s fanbase.

[iHype.]

Feb 18, 2023 16:30:10 GMT -5 Fat Ass Kelly Price said:

Know your fan base. The fan base of those people don’t give a s**t about what Chris did. The Chloe’s fan base (or other rnb/pop girlies) do give a damn about what Chris has done. Know the demo of your core audience.

Is it a female vs male thing? Sure. But in the sense that men don’t give a f**k about violence against women. However, enough women do. And those women make up Chloe’s fanbase.

So we're going to pretend Chloe's fanbase has not enjoyed music from Justin Bieber, Ariana Grande, Drake, Nicki Minaj, Lil Wayne, Jack Harlow, Lil Baby, Anderson Paak, Brandy, Usher, Jhene Aiko, Summer Walker, H.E.R., etc.

All who have also collaborated with Chris Brown post-2009? We're going to pretend all of them were called out by these fans too?

Lol. Again -- the selective outrage in this instance is interesting to see.

[elementd5]

Feb 18, 2023 13:33:04 GMT -5 85la said:

Feb 18, 2023 1:16:12 GMT -5 elementd5 said:

But nearly every major / charting successful woman-identified R&B artist has still not only worked with him but has released singles with him . . . at this point the “uproar” when another does, it’s just trolling.

Trolling?? Lmao

The exact opposite of what you're saying is true. Almost EVERY major female R&B artist who has been popular in the same time as Chris Brown has been able to do so without working with him, or at least by not releasing any majorly promoted singles with him that have been successful, from Beyonce to Alicia Keys, SZA, Summer Walker, H.E.R., etc. You're making it seem like a Chris Brown collab is a necessary requisite to achieving or maintaining success, when it's anything but.

Most of the women-identified artists you named (and their contemporaries) support Chris Brown, have multiple collaborations with him, and/or have released hit singles with him, too, though.

Chloe has the same exact audience / fan base . . .

[85la]

Feb 18, 2023 16:38:03 GMT -5 elementd5 said:

Feb 18, 2023 13:33:04 GMT -5 85la said:

Trolling?? Lmao

The exact opposite of what you're saying is true. Almost EVERY major female R&B artist who has been popular in the same time as Chris Brown has been able to do so without working with him, or at least by not releasing any majorly promoted singles with him that have been successful, from Beyonce to Alicia Keys, SZA, Summer Walker, H.E.R., etc. You're making it seem like a Chris Brown collab is a necessary requisite to achieving or maintaining success, when it's anything but.

Most of the women-identified artists you named (and their contemporaries) support Chris Brown, have multiple collaborations with him, and/or have released hit singles with him, too, though.

Chloe has the same exact audience / fan base . . .

Not Beyonce or Alicia Keys to my knowledge, and the collaborations with the other three either weren't released as singles or weren't big hits.

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

[kimberly]

Feb 18, 2023 16:30:10 GMT -5 Fat Ass Kelly Price said:

Know your fan base. The fan base of those people don’t give a s**t about what Chris did. The Chloe’s fan base (or other rnb/pop girlies) do give a damn about what Chris has done. Know the demo of your core audience.

Is it a female vs male thing? Sure. But in the sense that men don’t give a f**k about violence against women. However, enough women do. And those women make up Chloe’s fanbase.

this is exactly it. Chlöe's fanbase, safe to say, is mainly a slice of the Bey Hive pie. these people are loud, yes, but also don't like cheaters, abusers, homophobes. 

with that in mind, it's not exactly surprising that the Nicki Minaj fans are the main couple people coming to Chris Brown's defense on this forum.  :giggle:

Chlöe's disappointing her CORE fan base. people easily ignore when an artist they sometimes throw on a playlist collaborates with an asshole or does something problematic, we keep seeing this play out time and time again. sometimes they won't even know who the feature is on the song. some of the people complaining now probably didn't care when Chris Brown sang the hook on Nicki Minaj's "Only" or featured on an album cut on Ella Mai's debut album. but Barbz have never been shy about supporting the most vile and disturbing people, and Ella Mai's 100 core fans at the time probably weren't inconvenienced enough to cause an uproar.

choosing to feature Chris Brown on the lead single (?) of your debut album is a very weird, out of pocket choice for any young woman today. make him the center of your introductory work? quite baffling.

[TakeMe]

Feb 18, 2023 16:30:10 GMT -5 Fat Ass Kelly Price said:

Know your fan base. The fan base of those people don’t give a s**t about what Chris did. The Chloe’s fan base (or other rnb/pop girlies) do give a damn about what Chris has done. Know the demo of your core audience.

Is it a female vs male thing? Sure. But in the sense that men don’t give a f**k about violence against women. However, enough women do. And those women make up Chloe’s fanbase.

THANK YOU!!! I was hoping somebody would say it cause I was agreeing with the points but the whole picture was yet to be seen.
Those male artist fanbases simply don’t have the standards a lot of female artists fans do especially fans of a Beyoncé intern.