pcg4
Charting
Joined: November 2018
Posts: 164
|
Post by pcg4 on Aug 21, 2023 15:51:50 GMT -5
Eww I regret talking badly about k-pop songs debuting at one propelled by mass stan buying.
Didn't realise if could be worse: american republican stans
|
|
katebush
Charting
Joined: February 2023
Posts: 107 
|
Post by katebush on Aug 21, 2023 15:56:21 GMT -5
These are changing times, hopefully brainless and meaningless pop songs with no personality "singers" are history and the real music will be back in charts...
|
|
|
|
Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 21, 2023 16:20:21 GMT -5
It appears no YT video views for RMNoR counted since the reported streams in the article almost match those for the weekly HITS' Streaming Songs chart. it was #97 on the weekly US Youtube music videos chart, so nonzero video views counted I assume. Anyway, it was minimal at best. We'll see if this continues this week. |
|
dovahduck
Platinum Member
Kavinsky finally dropped! :)
Joined: April 2018
Posts: 1,871
|
Post by dovahduck on Aug 21, 2023 16:38:03 GMT -5
What the fuck is going on here We have become 4Chan 💩 |
|
dovahduck
Platinum Member
Kavinsky finally dropped! :)
Joined: April 2018
Posts: 1,871
|
Post by dovahduck on Aug 21, 2023 16:38:16 GMT -5
What the fuck is going on here We have become 4Chan 💩 |
|
Music Fan
5x Platinum Member
Imma Be Boom Boom Pow because I Gotta Feelin' I'm Alive
Joined: April 2008
Posts: 5,427
|
Post by Music Fan on Aug 21, 2023 16:48:20 GMT -5
Why do you think Billboard chose it? Because it got the most points on their chart formula for last week. The chart formula needs to get adjusted. So, you're saying Billboard didn't choose it. Thanks for clarifying. As an aside, I think that something should be done with sales. But I really don't know what a good rule could be. I do not agree they should be removed altogether. Should sales weight be limited after a certain threshold? What should that threshold be and how do we get to that number? Technically, if people 50,000+ people want to buy a song, it should be reflected on the charts. But it really can be abused (note I don't think it was abused with Jason or Anthony as it was with BTS, Taylor, etc but still don't like the results). |
|
|
|
Post by lostinhavana on Aug 21, 2023 16:54:48 GMT -5
Because it got the most points on their chart formula for last week. The chart formula needs to get adjusted. So, you're saying Billboard didn't choose it. Thanks for clarifying. As an aside, I think that something should be done with sales. But I really don't know what a good rule could be. I do not agree they should be removed altogether. Should sales weight be limited after a certain threshold? What should that threshold be and how do we get to that number? Technically, if people 50,000+ people want to buy a song, it should be reflected on the charts. But it really can be abused (note I don't think it was abused with Jason or Anthony as it was with BTS, Taylor, etc but still don't like the results). . Billboard has been doing a good job cracking down on the abuse of sales by Stans (banning website digital sales, having physical sales not count until they’re shipped etc) i think it’s only a matter of time until the go after the “remix” gimmick that’s mainly being used by BTS’s label which is a way to get around the 1 purchase of a song per person. i’m not entirely sure how it would work though remixes should definitely count |
|
fridayteenage
5x Platinum Member
Shake it Off
Joined: April 2008
Posts: 5,493
|
Post by fridayteenage on Aug 21, 2023 17:16:35 GMT -5
it was #97 on the weekly US Youtube music videos chart, so nonzero video views counted I assume. Anyway, it was minimal at best. We'll see if this continues this week. well, non-UGC views were minimal at best. |
|
|
|
Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 21, 2023 17:17:56 GMT -5
08/21/2023
By Gary Trust, Keith Caulfield
He joins elite company historically on the Digital Song Sales and Country Digital Song Sales charts.
As previously reported, Oliver Anthony Music’s breakout viral song “Rich Men North of Richmond” soars in at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 and Hot Country Songs charts (dated Aug. 26).
Officially released Aug. 11, the track drew 17.5 million streams and sold 147,000 downloads in the U.S. through Aug. 17, according to Luminate. Not being promoted to radio, the song also tallied 553,000 radio airplay audience impressions, the bulk on country stations.
“Richmond” concurrently debuts at No. 1 on the Digital Song Sales chart, and No. 4 on Streaming Songs.
It’s one of a whopping 13 tracks by the unsigned, Farmville, Va.-based singer-songwriter to debut on the 50-position Digital Song Sales chart, as “Richmond” has sparked interest in his overall catalog of songs (all released since 2022).
Here’s a look at his haul on the latest list:
No. 1, “Rich Men North of Richmond” (147,000 sold Aug. 11-17)
No. 2, “Aint Gotta Dollar” (17,000)
No. 5, “Ive Got To Get Sober (12,000)
No. 10, “I Want To Go Home” (8,000)
No. 11, “Virginia” (6,000)
No. 15, “Rich Mans Gold” (5,000)
No. 19, “Always Love You (Like a Good Ole Dog)” (4,000)
No. 21, “Feeling Purdy Good” (4,000)
No. 23, “Doggonit” (3,000)
No. 24, “Stuck Living in the New World” (3,000)
No. 29, “90 Some Chevy” (3,000)
No. 37, “Hell on Earth” (2,000)
No. 43, “Between You & Me” (2,000)
The 50 top-selling songs Aug. 11-17 sold 375,000. Anthony’s 13 songs above sold 216,000 – a 58% share.
“Richmond,” meanwhile, outsold the Nos. 2-18 songs on Digital Song Sales combined.
Looking at Anthony’s week-over-week gains for his previously-released songs – all except for “Richmond” above – those 12 charted tracks sold 73,000 Aug. 11-17, a 2,054% vault from 3,000 Aug. 4-10.
Beyond the Digital Song Sales chart, Anthony has 16 song releases available for purchase, with the three that did not make the survey (“Cobwebs and Cocaine,” “Long Gone” and “Vcr Kid”) upping his total to 220,000 downloads sold Aug. 11-17. Industry-wide, he sold 7.8% of all songs in the tracking week (220,000 of 2,813,000).
Plus, Anthony is the first living solo male to chart as least 13 titles in the top 50 of Digital Song Sales at once. (The chart was formerly 75 positions-deep.) Among all acts, five previously reached that mark in a single week, led by Prince with 21 on the May 14, 2016, list, following his passing that April 21. The only other solo male prior to Anthony with at least that many simultaneous top-50 entries was Michael Jackson, with a personal-best 17 on the July 25, 2009, after he died that June 25.
The other acts to have amassed at least 13 concurrent tracks in the top 50 on Digital Song Sales: BTS (18; March 7, 2020, as the group’s album Map of the Soul : 7 premiered atop the Billboard 200), Taylor Swift (16; Nov. 5, 2022, concurrent with the No. 1 Billboard 200 start of her album Midnights) and Rihanna (14; Feb. 25, 2023, following her halftime show performance at Super Bowl LVII Feb. 12).
Anthony’s 13 songs listed above also all debut on the 25-position Country Digital Song Sales chart, from “Richmond” at No. 1 to “Between You & Me” at No. 25. He ties the record for the most simultaneous top-25 entries; 13 titles by Kenny Rogers reached the ranking dated April 4, 2020, following his passing that March 20.
Meanwhile, with all 16 of Anthony’s song releases in the country genre, 37.3% of all country track sales last week were by Oliver Anthony Music (220,000 of 591,000).
All charts dated Aug. 26 will update on Billboard.com Tuesday, Aug. 22.
|
|
|
|
Post by shadowthehedgehogfan on Aug 21, 2023 17:26:44 GMT -5
Olivia with 2 songs in the top 10 and I keep hearing about FLOP???? it's not a flop, it's a sophomore slump. this happened with Mariah, Britney, the spice girls, Xtina, paula abdul, cyndi lauper, Demi, Gwen Stefani. And some of those albums had #1 singles, Paula's second album had 2, but it was still a sophomore slump compared to the titan that was her debut. |
|
Gary
Diamond Member
Joined: January 2014
Posts: 45,891
|
Post by Gary on Aug 21, 2023 17:41:57 GMT -5
Why do you think Billboard chose it? Because it got the most points on their chart formula for last week. The chart formula needs to get adjusted. So, the formula needs to be changed because? Your <insert your favorite song> is not represented at #1? |
|
|
|
Post by shadowthehedgehogfan on Aug 21, 2023 17:47:30 GMT -5
Because it got the most points on their chart formula for last week. The chart formula needs to get adjusted. So, the formula needs to be changed because? Your <insert your favorite song> is not represented at #1? leonagwen if you say yes, you will earn my respect for being that shameless and honest about it. |
|
fridayteenage
5x Platinum Member
Shake it Off
Joined: April 2008
Posts: 5,493
|
Post by fridayteenage on Aug 21, 2023 17:49:24 GMT -5
there's been no evidence olivia is slumping.
it's not like billie who couldn't even muster up a multi-week top 10 with her second album.
|
|
|
|
Post by shadowthehedgehogfan on Aug 21, 2023 18:01:29 GMT -5
there's been no evidence olivia is slumping. it's not like billie who couldn't even muster up a multi-week top 10 with her second album. again Paula and Mariah. Spellbound and Emotions are easily sophomore slumps despite being commercial successes. When you have massive debut albums, theres nowhere to go but down. Oops!...I Did It Again was considered a sophomore slump despite being a huge success, because it lacked a massive commercial hit, with the title track only getting to 9. |
|
HamedM1 💔
Moderator
Skinny Muslim Legend
No Peace On Stolen Land #FreePalestine
Joined: April 2021
Posts: 5,324
Pronouns: He/Him
Staff
|
Post by HamedM1 💔 on Aug 21, 2023 18:35:28 GMT -5
it's not like billie who couldn't even muster up a multi-week top 10 with her second album. I mean her debut album only had 1 top 10 hit in general too, unlike Sour which had all its singles reach top 10. Olivia's debut is pretty incomparable to a lot of other artists cause she came swinging out the gate where as Billie grew organically as an artist. Her debut album only really spawned two worthwhile chart hits, bury a friend not being a huge one either. So the point of comparison here really doesn't mean much since both artists had very different starts. |
|
Darkest Hour
Diamond Member
album listener
Joined: January 2017
Posts: 15,866
|
Post by Darkest Hour on Aug 21, 2023 19:52:47 GMT -5
|
|
|
|
Post by imbuemyblue on Aug 21, 2023 21:16:13 GMT -5
again Paula and Mariah. Spellbound and Emotions are easily sophomore slumps despite being commercial successes. When you have massive debut albums, theres nowhere to go but down. Oops!...I Did It Again was considered a sophomore slump despite being a huge success, because it lacked a massive commercial hit, with the title track only getting to 9. I am fairly sure this isn't true? There wasn't a commercial single for 'Oops!'.... and it would have quite easily been a number one with a physical single. It literally had the biggest female opening for over a decade. I do not recall anyone ever in that era referring to that as a sophomore slump lol. Paula and Mariah are better examples. |
|
jasper0102
2x Platinum Member
I CAN GET BY THE DAYS JUST FINE BUT THE NIGHTS
Joined: May 2022
Posts: 2,846
Pronouns: he/him
|
Post by jasper0102 on Aug 21, 2023 21:27:12 GMT -5
Only someone who likes Rich Men North Of Richmond can say that with a straight face (which is fitting). have you seen literally any other top ten? It is refreshing to see more country music in the top 10 though Even if I agree, you can’t exactly say that to someone who isn’t a country music fan, just saying. |
|
Youknowit
Gold Member
Joined: February 2010
Posts: 883
|
Post by Youknowit on Aug 21, 2023 21:29:01 GMT -5
again Paula and Mariah. Spellbound and Emotions are easily sophomore slumps despite being commercial successes. When you have massive debut albums, theres nowhere to go but down. Oops!...I Did It Again was considered a sophomore slump despite being a huge success, because it lacked a massive commercial hit, with the title track only getting to 9. I am fairly sure this isn't true? There wasn't a commercial single for 'Oops!'.... and it would have quite easily been a number one with a physical single. It literally had the biggest female opening for over a decade. I do not recall anyone ever in that era referring to that as a sophomore slump lol. Paula and Mariah are better examples. Yeah Oops!… is far from a sophomore slump lol. Most of her peaks between 1999-2004 suffered for higher album sales. #9 for Toxic too? Rough times back then…. |
|
|
|
Post by shadowthehedgehogfan on Aug 21, 2023 21:59:57 GMT -5
well singles wise, it only had 1 year end hit, and that was pre-radio ban.
but yeah. Guts very well could be Olivia's Emotions... or her Spellbound.
|
|
badrobot
3x Platinum Member
Joined: November 2006
Posts: 3,392
|
Post by badrobot on Aug 21, 2023 22:02:37 GMT -5
Some of y’all are just making things up at this point.
Britney’s second album broke the record for female album debut (by a HUGE margin). It was viewed as cementing her status as the biggest pop star in the world at that time, the exact *opposite* of a slump.
Success for artists in the mid-90s to mid-00s was largely judged on album sales rather than singles performance.
Virtually all the examples of “sophomore slumps” are completely wrong and were not regarded that way at the time.
|
|
|
|
Post by shadowthehedgehogfan on Aug 21, 2023 22:14:10 GMT -5
Some of y’all are just making things up at this point. Britney’s second album broke the record for female album debut (by a HUGE margin). It was viewed as cementing her status as the biggest pop star in the world at that time, the exact *opposite* of a slump. Success for artists in the mid-90s to mid-00s was largely judged on album sales rather than singles performance. Virtually all the examples of “sophomore slumps” are completely wrong and were not regarded that way at the time. except the other 7 artists i mentioned, just ignore those sophomore slumps |
|
Gary
Diamond Member
Joined: January 2014
Posts: 45,891
|
Post by Gary on Aug 21, 2023 22:29:09 GMT -5
Even if I agree, you can’t exactly say that to someone who isn’t a country music fan, just saying. OK as I wasn't posting that to anyone in particular, will say it anyway |
|
|
|
Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Aug 21, 2023 22:33:38 GMT -5
|
|
krissirge
Gold Member
Joined: March 2013
Posts: 838
|
Post by krissirge on Aug 22, 2023 1:56:15 GMT -5
Like with the Aldean song, its totally worth it to see this go to the top just to see the absolute meltdown that chartwatchers, stans and poptimists seem to have. Clearly the solution is that rural areas should have no internet whatsoever  |
|
Enigma.
Diamond Member
Joined: July 2007
Posts: 14,176
|
Post by Enigma. on Aug 22, 2023 2:45:43 GMT -5
Olivia should've named her album Sophomore Slump as clearly pop stans are treating her like they treated Gaga when she released ARTPOP.
|
|
Codex
Diamond Member
male into other males
Joined: November 2014
Posts: 19,447
|
Post by Codex on Aug 22, 2023 3:47:20 GMT -5
I love the notion that Rich Men North of Richmond is the republican country equivalent of WAP. |
|
dremolus - solarpunk
Diamond Member
𝙁𝙧𝙤𝙢 𝙋𝙖𝙡𝙚𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙣𝙚 𝙩𝙤 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙋𝙝𝙞𝙡𝙞𝙥𝙥𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙨, 𝙎𝙩𝙤𝙥 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙐.𝙎. 𝙒𝙖𝙧 𝙈𝙖𝙘
Joined: August 2019
Posts: 13,325
My Reviews
Pronouns: (he/him/they)
|
Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Aug 22, 2023 4:33:42 GMT -5
BUBBLING UNDER
#1. KAROL G and Kali Uchis - ME TENGO QUE IR (DEBUT)
#2. Bakar - Hell N Back (=)
#3. KAROL G and Young Miko - DISPO (DEBUT)
#4. Dave and Central Cee - Sprinter (+1)
#5. Tim McGraw - Standing Room Only (+2)
#6. Cole Swindell - Drinkaby (=)
#7. Yeat - bigger thën everything (DEBUT)
#8. Burna Boy - Sittin' On Top of the World (+1)
#9. KAROL G - BICHOTAG (DEBUT)
#10. NLE Choppa - It's Getting Hot (+7)
#11. Carin Leon - Primera Cita (+5)
#12. KAROL G and Dei V - GABITA GANGSTER (DEBUT)
#13. Zach Bryan - Sun to Me (-2)
#14. Parker McCollum - Burn It Down (+8)
#15. Chris Brown - Summer Too Hot (-3)
#16. Chris Young - Looking For You (-6)
#17. Zach Bryan - Revival (+3)
#18. V - Rainy Days (DEBUT)
#19. Nate Smith - World On Fire (-1)
#20. Noah Kahan - Stick Season (-5)
#21. Laufey - From the Start (-7)
#22. Dylan Scott - Can't Have Mine (-9)
#23. $uicideboy$ - Not Even Ghosts Are This Empty (DEBUT)
#24. Sexyy Red - Skee Yee (DEBUT)
#25. Oliver Anthony Music - Ive Got to Get Sober (DEBUT)
|
|
dremolus - solarpunk
Diamond Member
𝙁𝙧𝙤𝙢 𝙋𝙖𝙡𝙚𝙨𝙩𝙞𝙣𝙚 𝙩𝙤 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙋𝙝𝙞𝙡𝙞𝙥𝙥𝙞𝙣𝙚𝙨, 𝙎𝙩𝙤𝙥 𝙩𝙝𝙚 𝙐.𝙎. 𝙒𝙖𝙧 𝙈𝙖𝙘
Joined: August 2019
Posts: 13,325
My Reviews
Pronouns: (he/him/they)
|
Post by dremolus - solarpunk on Aug 22, 2023 6:25:07 GMT -5
Notable Gains:
#75. Jelly Roll with Lainey Wilson - Save Me (+13) *new peak*
#87. Zach Bryan feat. Maggie Rogers - Dawns (+12)
Notable Losses:
#37. Travis Scott feat. Playboi Carti - FE!N (-13)
#41. Travis Scott, Bad Bunny, and The Weeknd - K-POP (-14)
#50. Justin Moore and Priscilla Block - You, Me, & Whiskey (-13)
#69. Travis Scott - MY EYES (-25)
#73. Travis Scott feat. Rob49 and 21 Savage - TOPIA TWINS (-27)
#79. NewJeans - Super Shy (-13)
#84. Post Malone - Mourning (-28)
#92. Diplo, Jessie Murph, and Polo G - Heartbroken (-11)
#97. Travis Scott - THANK GOD (-33)
Re-entries:
#45. KAROL G - S91
#100. Luke Bryan - But I Got A Beer in My Hand
Notable Dropouts:
Thought You Should Know (52 weeks)
Eyes Closed (20 weeks)
Bzrp Music Sessions, Vol. 55 (10 weeks)
Pound Town 2 (10 weeks)
Biggest Gain in Sales: Fast Car
Biggest Gain in Streaming: vampire
Biggest Gain in Airplay: Barbie World
Gained in Points:
#2. Luke Combs - Fast Car (=)
#4. Taylor Swift - Cruel Summer (-1)
#6. Olivia Rodrigo - vampire (=)
#8. Dua Lipa - Dance the Night (-1)
#9. Nicki Minaj and Ice Spice with Aqua - Barbie World (-1)
#15. Doja Cat - Paint the Town Red (=)
#17. Jelly Roll - Need A Favor (-1)
#18. Bailey Zimmerman - Religiously (-1)
#24. Morgan Wallen - Thinkin' Bout Me (-1)
#28. Noah Kahan feat. Post Malone - Dial Drunk (+2)
#31. Luke Combs - Love You Anyway (+2)
#34. Kane Brown - Bury Me in Georgia (+2) *new peak*
#38. Lainey Wilson - Watermelon Moonshine (+1) *new peak*
#44. Myke Towers - LALA (-1)
#46. Taylor Swift - Blank Space (+3)
#47. Peso Pluma, Gabito Ballesteros, and Junior H - LADY GAGA (=)
#48. Doechii feat. Kodak Black - What It Is (Block Boy) (+2) *new peak*
#53. Chris Stapleton - White Horse (+6)
#54. Young Nudy feat. 21 Savage - Peaches & Eggplants (=)
#58. Jon Pardi - Your Heart Or Mine (=)
#61. HARDY - TRUCK BED (=)
#62. Peso Puma and Grupo Frontera -TULUM (+3)
#66. Morgan Wallen - Everything I Love (+3)
#67. The Weeknd, Playboi Carti, and Madonna - Popular (=)
#70. DaBaby - SHAKE SUMN (+2)
#72. That Mexican OT, Paul Wall, and DRODi - Johnny Dang (+7) *new peak*
#74. Miley Cyrus - Jaded (-1)
#77. Thomas Rhett - Angels Don't Have Wings (+1)
#78. Young Thug feat. Drake - Oh U Went (+6)
#93. Peso Pluma and Jasiel Nuñez - LAGUNAS (+3)
#94. Peso Pluma - RUBICON (+6)
|
|
Enigma.
Diamond Member
Joined: July 2007
Posts: 14,176
|
Post by Enigma. on Aug 22, 2023 6:48:04 GMT -5
This obviously isn't correct as some Idol winners did that, Taylor Hicks for instance.
|
|
