Billboard Hot 100: 08/26/2023

[Ling-Ling]

Aug 12, 2023 9:58:15 GMT -5 chartfreak said:

Since old songs can come back, wish there was a campaign for Summer Rain by Belinda Carlisle to make a yearly return. :)

Still flabbergasted that song wasn't a hit. We failed Belinda.

[Ryan]

[Gary]

[HamedM1 💔]

Now why can't this shit happen for a Kacey Musgraves song instead just baffles my entire existence...

[Khia]

Aug 12, 2023 2:34:26 GMT -5 velaxti said:

Aug 11, 2023 17:11:24 GMT -5 Fears in the Fire said:

Taylor’s been huge for far more than two singles and four months, so if you can’t see how it’s different then idk what to tell you. Also, you’re basically saying you didn’t like Gaga because everyone else loved her, which really isn’t a rational reason.

Taylor has been huge for more than two single and more than four months? Oh? Really? I did not know that lol.

You didn't understand my post. It was actually intended as kind words of advice for Taylor fans, not negative at all.

I'll try and re-word it in a different (and simpler) way:

Do not say, in public, that Taylor Swift is as big as The Beatles, even if it is true. It will make people hate her. Trust me. There are LOTS of irrational people out there.

If you want her imperial phase to be over ASAP, go around saying that Taylor Swift is bigger than The Beatles. It will cause her huge backlash, I guarantee it. Shall I go on another forum/website, claim Taylor Swift is bigger than the Beatles, take some screenshots and post them back here to prove it?

Girl, forums and comment sections aren't real life. People making comments online won't turn the public against Taylor Swift. Please go touch some grass.

[Kelly's 10th Fan]

Aug 11, 2023 11:23:57 GMT -5 badrobot said:

These posts are so blatantly wildly off topic and incendiary, a mod really should be intervening here.

I sincerely apologize. I haven't been able to be online for most of the week for personal reasons, but had I known someone was trying to make points about recognizing when someone objectively can't sing and then using Abel Tesfaye as their counter-example of a technically good singer, I would have found the time to issue troll warnings right away because truly, how the fuck did y'all make it three pages past that and NOT recognize and report that as the troll bait that it was

[mms82]

Aug 12, 2023 12:48:24 GMT -5 Gary said:

What an awesome uniting song, hope it does well. Deserves so much more success than that Aldean track.

[85la]

Aug 12, 2023 0:20:43 GMT -5 atg said:

Pop music in 2023 is literally on a broken scale, we don’t even know what can become a hit and just because you’re a big name doesn’t guarantee you’ll have a big hit anymore.

I would say that's kind of the case to some degree every year though. Have there ever been years where we knew exactly what would become a hit and where big names were guaranteed success? Maybe the closest thing to that would've been years like 2010 with the dance pop boom or 2018 when hip hop was at its peak.

Aug 12, 2023 11:23:59 GMT -5 korbel16 said:

Aug 12, 2023 1:26:14 GMT -5 neel said:

2003 & 2004 weren’t that bad, but that’s probably just my bias for hip-hop and R&B. Think you need to go back to the first two years of the 90s for “worst year of pop music” title.

As of us being nearly 30% into the decade , the 2020s are on track for another worst decade ever title, this time the “worst decade for popular music”. Which is perfectly in tune with all the other shit that has happened since 2020 outside of music.

Now say we’re 60% into the decade and the pop scene is still like this with old songs clogging up the charts and nothing else happening, then it ultimately claims the title, not even shit changing in the last years can redeem it imo.

only been 3 years into the decade, change usually starts showing midway through a decade

I think musical changes are more random than that and aren't always aligned with the change of each new decade, and even when they are, it would be coincidental.

[Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ]

Aug 12, 2023 14:11:19 GMT -5 Kelly's 10th Fan said:

Aug 11, 2023 11:23:57 GMT -5 badrobot said:

These posts are so blatantly wildly off topic and incendiary, a mod really should be intervening here.

I sincerely apologize. I haven't been able to be online for most of the week for personal reasons, but had I known someone was trying to make points about recognizing when someone objectively can't sing and then using Abel Tesfaye as their counter-example of a technically good singer, I would have found the time to issue troll warnings right away because truly, how the fuck did y'all make it three pages past that and NOT recognize and report that as the troll bait that it was

Is this a subtle sign we should report this as a troll bait? 🧐🤭 don't ban me

[shadowthehedgehogfan]

Aug 12, 2023 11:23:59 GMT -5 korbel16 said:

Aug 12, 2023 1:26:14 GMT -5 neel said:

2003 & 2004 weren’t that bad, but that’s probably just my bias for hip-hop and R&B. Think you need to go back to the first two years of the 90s for “worst year of pop music” title.

As of us being nearly 30% into the decade , the 2020s are on track for another worst decade ever title, this time the “worst decade for popular music”. Which is perfectly in tune with all the other shit that has happened since 2020 outside of music.

Now say we’re 60% into the decade and the pop scene is still like this with old songs clogging up the charts and nothing else happening, then it ultimately claims the title, not even shit changing in the last years can redeem it imo.

only been 3 years into the decade, change usually starts showing midway through a decade

eh...
a bunch of huge names in the early 90s: Wilson Philips, Paula Abdul, Bobby Brown, Vanessa Williams, etc, were hasbeens as early as 93

[Kelly's 10th Fan]

Aug 12, 2023 14:48:35 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Aug 12, 2023 14:11:19 GMT -5 Kelly's 10th Fan said:

I sincerely apologize. I haven't been able to be online for most of the week for personal reasons, but had I known someone was trying to make points about recognizing when someone objectively can't sing and then using Abel Tesfaye as their counter-example of a technically good singer, I would have found the time to issue troll warnings right away because truly, how the fuck did y'all make it three pages past that and NOT recognize and report that as the troll bait that it was

Is this a subtle sign we should report this as a troll bait? 🧐🤭 don't ban me

My post, or the post I was referring to? You can report me, lol (just for the record, my belief that The Weeknd is not a technically great singer has no bearing on my opinion of him or his music)

if you mean reporting the other post, well, let's just say enough other things hit the queue already. I just thought it was funny that that one somehow slipped by everybody.

[musiclife]

Omfg let's go Cruel Summer. 1 point margin for #1.

[Choco]

I don't particularly dislike the Luke Combs cover but I am also rooting for CS to make it this week.

[musiclife]

Aug 12, 2023 16:46:42 GMT -5 Choco said:

I don't particularly dislike the Luke Combs cover but I am also rooting for CS to make it this week.

I personally love Fast Car.. it's one of the best songs this year even if it's a cover. His version just hits.. but Cruel Summer is one of the best pop songs in the last 10 years. So my vote is for Cruel Summer.

[Acid Eyes]

I'll feel 100% satisfied if Cruel Summer gets it this week and Luke takes over for the month of September. Would be fitting with the "cruel" summer theme and the conclusion of the US tour.

[tfa20]

Aug 11, 2023 19:12:32 GMT -5 theycallmedualian said:

Aug 11, 2023 18:23:09 GMT -5 KeepDeanWeird said:

The race for the Top 3 is even more interesting because all 3 songs were driven by popular demand rather than what the label chose to promote.

1. Last Night - was sent to Pop, but label was pushing 'One Thing at a Time' to Country radio. However, Country radio jumped on LN and quickly chose it as the winner. OTAT only peaked at #8 on Country.

2. Fast Car - 'Love You Anyway' was the lead single, but when 'Gettin' Old' was released, FC was the clear winner with streaming and sales. LYA ascent slowed down, but now that FC peaked at Country, is aiming for the summit.

3. Cruel Summer - everyone knows.

that's unfortunate. OTAT is actually an amazing song imo; where as LN is clearly designed to be the bro-country version of the soulless fast food mega hits like JB's stay or Sunflower and others.

i guess people really prefer short songs nowadays

Bold of you to call Sunflower "soulless"...

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Aug 12, 2023 15:21:49 GMT -5 Kelly's 10th Fan said:

Aug 12, 2023 14:48:35 GMT -5 Ｓｏｕｎｄｃｌ🕤ｃｋ said:

Is this a subtle sign we should report this as a troll bait? 🧐🤭 don't ban me

My post, or the post I was referring to? You can report me, lol (just for the record, my belief that The Weeknd is not a technically great singer has no bearing on my opinion of him or his music)

if you mean reporting the other post, well, let's just say enough other things hit the queue already. I just thought it was funny that that one somehow slipped by everybody.

naah, just a joke lol.
That poster was replying to me, and I think Abel was only mentioned because he's my avi.


Olivia's performance on AM isn't really promising, it's now #14 and it was #13 a few hours ago. Not really confident about that top 10 debut anymore, maybe this should be just a promo song, even tho I really like it.

[fridayteenage]

I know it's thanks to jason derulo using the algorithm to his advantage, but it's kinda funny that rn per kworb the top English language music uploads on Youtube include:

#2 "#JasonDeruloTV // Via birikol23 #GladUCame" (behind Barbie Girl, ahead of Olivia's new video) - 1,264,840
#7 "@woodyandkleiny" - 1,255,335

Both are basically random tiktokers' viral-y videos to his song. So UGC that he put on his own channel because his actual videos are flopping, with the top one getting 135,395 today.

[Choco]

It's even sadder that 1.2m gets you anywhere near the top on Youtube. No wonder no one is bothering with music videos at the moment.

[lazer]

Like I said before, music videos should now be posted on Spotify. The rising amount of video podcasts I’ve seen on Spotify shows that the platform is open to video media. I think music videos might generate more views there than YouTube.

[gs]

Audiences prefer short-form UGC vids for video-based music consumption now, TikTok/Shorts has largely replaced regular YouTube this way, which is probably why it's tanking and won't recover. Considering Apple Music music videos don't do well, I don't see why Spotify ones would really do that much better?

[neel]

Aug 12, 2023 20:08:41 GMT -5 lazer said:

Like I said before, music videos should now be posted on Spotify. The rising amount of video podcasts I’ve seen on Spotify shows that the platform is open to video media. I think music videos might generate more views there than YouTube.

I kind of don’t want to happen cause it kills VEVO impact in the industry going forward.

[bonicap]

Aug 12, 2023 20:08:41 GMT -5 lazer said:

Like I said before, music videos should now be posted on Spotify. The rising amount of video podcasts I’ve seen on Spotify shows that the platform is open to video media. I think music videos might generate more views there than YouTube.

Not a bad idea, I'm sure Spotify and the labels are exploring this option looking at Youtube's performance. Western artists are just losing time and money for the most part.

[musiclife]

I don't know why the attitude towards music videos changed over the years. I've discovered so many artists and good songs watching music videos.

[fridayteenage]

low attention spans. short songs are trendy. people prefer playing music in the background, or at most watching quick little tiktoks.


Not that I wanted it to happen, but I'm a little surprised given the unwashed masses buying this random person I've never heard of, they didn't do the same thing when their fave would-be dictator had a song in March.

[HamedM1 💔]

The era of music videos losing importance is literally depressing as we enter a time where mainstream music is getting somewhat vapid due to the rise of multiple one hit wonders and artists who have failed to really cement a lasting image or impact (Khalid, Tate McRae, Jack Harlow, Trevor Daniel, Powfu, BENEE, Kid Laroi, GAYLE, etc).

Makes me appreciate the artists who at least still put in work to make memorable music videos like Dua, Doja, Nicki, and even Raye for her current album. Shoutout to Escapism getting zero nominations at the VMA's, that is some absolute bullshit.

[HolidayGuy]

Ling-Ling- "Summer Rain" may not have been a big U.S. or UK hit, but it was top 30 in both territories. Not the worst. :)

It is a shame about music videos. I miss the days of the MTV Top 20 Countdown, seeing the Video Monitor charts ranking videos by plays, etc.

[musiclife]

I feel like if MTV started videos again or some other music station came along that dedicated its time to videos and countdowns it would succeed. I'm sorry but there is no excuse for MTV to not show videos at all.

[neel]

Aug 12, 2023 23:07:12 GMT -5 musiclife said:

I feel like if MTV started videos again or some other music station came along that dedicated its time to videos and countdowns it would succeed. I'm sorry but there is no excuse for MTV to not show videos at all.

I don’t even know why MTV is just spamming “Ridiculous” that nobody is watching when they could just play countdowns all day of 70s to today music videos. Did Viacom lose rights to playing music videos or something?

[musiclife]

Aug 12, 2023 23:11:20 GMT -5 neel said:

Aug 12, 2023 23:07:12 GMT -5 musiclife said:

I feel like if MTV started videos again or some other music station came along that dedicated its time to videos and countdowns it would succeed. I'm sorry but there is no excuse for MTV to not show videos at all.

I don’t even know why MTV is just spamming “Ridiculous” that nobody is watching when they could just play countdowns all day of 70s to today music videos. Did Viacom lose rights to playing music videos or something?

I don't know to be honest, but someone at Viacom in power doesn't know what they're doing. If they don't wanna show videos at the very least they should be showing shows that are music based, music documentaries, etc. The channel literally has nothing to do with music what so ever. They should relinquish the title and give it up. Because I'm sure nobody is watching Ridiculousness 24/7 they'd get more viewers the other way.