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Post by iHype. on Sept 23, 2023 13:30:38 GMT -5
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Post by kierz7 on Sept 23, 2023 13:44:17 GMT -5
I had a feeling this album was going to move less than “Planet Her”.
Hopefully the numbers grow throughout the week, otherwise… a disaster. 💀
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Post by Choco on Sept 23, 2023 14:11:35 GMT -5
Ouch at Doja. I would have expected these numbers if PTTR hadn't gotten traction.
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Post by wavey. on Sept 23, 2023 14:55:50 GMT -5
So only 50k less than PH. Could go up, which still isn't bad. PTTR is still on fire, and "Agora Hills" could propel sales(and her tour) will keep the album afloat(or how long she plans to push it). It has the potential.
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Post by Music Fan on Sept 23, 2023 15:04:17 GMT -5
This is bad for Doja. There's no silver lining in these numbers. Crazy how much lower she'd debut with if PTTR hadn't gone viral a few weeks prior -- but that's making her cross the 50k line, so the proper single is working a bit.
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Post by Choco on Sept 23, 2023 15:07:07 GMT -5
She also has a very limited physical, but that was also true of Planet HER. She would have been wise to drop some more CDs to mask the drop a bit (like how Olivia got by on increased pure sales to ultimately improve on SOUR's debut with significantly less streams/hype).
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Post by fridayteenage on Sept 23, 2023 15:34:22 GMT -5
I mean, Olivia showed a lot of strength in sales with Sour such that it would obviously be worth making a lot of physicals for a new album.
Someone like doja or dua have shown no signs of that.
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Post by NeRD on Sept 23, 2023 15:39:11 GMT -5
Those numbers are not good. She could turn things around if Agora Hills takes off.
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Post by Choco on Sept 23, 2023 16:13:24 GMT -5
Not my girl Dua catching a stray bullet from fridayteenage 😭😭😭😭 no one is safe.
(Dua has always dropped with physicals btw, not sure what the point there was)
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Post by eagle27 on Sept 23, 2023 16:38:34 GMT -5
Just shows a big hit will never ensure a good album performance. Although this is really just a product of a horrible rollout and a lot of people are literally scared and grossed out by the song titles and Doja’s image.
Dua still did 65k before being a household name in America. Given she knows how to market herself properly, there will be demand for her album with or without a hit. She’s not going to sell like Olivia but she’s isn’t some singles artists with no fan base like some of you think.
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Post by iHype. on Sept 23, 2023 16:44:56 GMT -5
So only 50k less than PH. Could go up, which still isn't bad. PTTR is still on fire, and "Agora Hills" could propel sales(and her tour) will keep the album afloat(or how long she plans to push it). It has the potential. Pls at “only 50k less” than an album that barely cracked 100k to begin with. 😭 I admire your optimism in every situation.
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Post by wavey. on Sept 23, 2023 16:53:16 GMT -5
So only 50k less than PH. Could go up, which still isn't bad. PTTR is still on fire, and "Agora Hills" could propel sales(and her tour) will keep the album afloat(or how long she plans to push it). It has the potential. Pls at “only 50k less” than an album that barely cracked 100k to begin with. 😭 I admire your optimism in every situation. I mean there isn't nothing else to go off of considering Hot Pink opened up with lower numbers🤣 I'm just saying things can always go up, they also could be worse. Just depends on how RCA is going to push it.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 23, 2023 17:39:33 GMT -5
Awful nunbers for Doja, but I'm not surprised. She's done a lot of damage with her fans and the public over the last year.
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Post by Choco on Sept 23, 2023 17:55:40 GMT -5
Is this accurate? I can't see how these middling streams outdo Invasion of Privacy unless streaming has really grown that much recently.
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Post by think pink. on Sept 23, 2023 18:08:40 GMT -5
Wouldn’t the sales projections also be higher? I’m so confused.
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Post by fridayteenage on Sept 23, 2023 19:43:35 GMT -5
Is this accurate? I can't see how these middling streams outdo Invasion of Privacy unless streaming has really grown that much recently. This is a bit confusing, even if paint the town red is carrying it. day 1, songs in the top 100: scarlet - #1, #35 invasion of privacy - #29, #54, #55, #60, #66, #70, #76, #86, #96 = 9 songs planet her - #4, #15, #35, #39, #44, #63, #77, #80, #86, #96 = 10 songs
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Post by iHype. on Sept 23, 2023 21:36:25 GMT -5
Is this accurate? I can't see how these middling streams outdo Invasion of Privacy unless streaming has really grown that much recently. Because 1. Cardi is way more local, so she could have lower numbers globally but still have higher US numbers 2. Cardi is core Hip-Hop demo, so Apple Music was majority of her numbers. She did 100m+ streams globally first week on Apple, and overwhelmingly most would be US. Doja probably won’t even do 15m first week on Apple Music.
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Post by Rican@ on Sept 24, 2023 7:40:50 GMT -5
I assume she should be moving at least 100K after the success of two eras. Her social media presence did have an effect on her sales. In her case, if she has a good song, she will be fine with the public. She needs someone to manage her social media—like most of these new age artists. The “no filter” doesn’t work.
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Post by avamaxstan on Sept 25, 2023 9:30:17 GMT -5
Oh, wow... yikes. I guess this is what happens when you're openly hostile to your fans. You can still get a hit song with the general public, but you won't have stans to pre-order and buy your album first week. And of course they dropped the ball with physicals/vinyls.
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Post by Youknowit on Sept 25, 2023 11:03:17 GMT -5
Definitely disappointed with Doja's numbers, but I'm curious to see how this performs for the next few weeks.
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Post by imbuemyblue on Sept 25, 2023 11:06:05 GMT -5
Just so embarrassing/bad. Woof.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Sept 25, 2023 14:10:32 GMT -5
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Post by Ivy Leegue™ on Sept 25, 2023 14:34:29 GMT -5
I like that the numbers are trending up, but confused about people who are saying there was a limited release for physicals when the CDs were readily available on Amazon and her website, as well as other retailers. This is not a Planet Her situation, in which physicals weren't available until much later than the release date of the album.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Sept 25, 2023 14:58:16 GMT -5
Abysmal for numbers for someone of her supposed magnitude and coming off the last album - didn't realize she'd done this much damage to her image!
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Post by wavey. on Sept 25, 2023 16:18:21 GMT -5
Exactly. It's never about the first week(for me), it's about the longevity, which I feel she'll have.
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Sept 26, 2023 15:20:22 GMT -5
Tuesday, September 26, 2023
At midweek, the Top 20 will contain one debut each for the three major distributors. Kemosabe/RCA’s Doja Cat will deliver a Top 5 bow for Sony with Scarlet, while Warner’s red-hot Zach Bryan and his surprise five-track EP, Boys of Faith, will give WMG a new entry inside the Top 10 and Lil Tecca’s TEC (Galactic/Republic) will open in the Top 15 for UMG. Olivia Rodrigo’s GUTS (Geffen) is headed back to #1 ahead of last week’s winner, Rod Wave’s Nostalgia (Alamo).
Now if you’ll excuse us, we’ve got to go spike the pumpkin spice latte we ordered earlier.
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Post by Envoirment on Sept 26, 2023 17:11:32 GMT -5
Happy to see Doja trended upwards. Hopefully "Agora Hills" will become a big hit and help carry the album with "Paint The Town Red".
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Post by Choco on Sept 28, 2023 16:20:28 GMT -5
I still think the Doja numbers are bad. PTTR is carrying hard and AH is showing some promise to be a single, but there's no "Ain't Shit" song catching on with audiences on it's own, or anything else showing much promise.
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Post by kimberly on Sept 28, 2023 18:25:56 GMT -5
Scarlet should near/cross 75,000,000 streams on Spotify (global) this week. it's a solid enough debut, though definitely an expectedly sharp decline.
according to this tweet from last year, Invasion of Privacy debuted with 103,000,000 streams on Spotify.
Doja Cat's own Planet Her debuted with 149,400,000 streams, easily making it the biggest debut for a female hip hop artist.
so I'm not sure about that record.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Sept 28, 2023 20:02:25 GMT -5
Where does Midnights rank on that list of biggest Spotify debut weeks? Didn't it garner like 500+ million streams debut week?
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