The Black Crowes - "Wanting and Waiting"

[Orbit]

From their upcoming album Happiness Bastards, out March 15

[Daryl the Beryl]

Top 50 on Active:

0 49 BLACK CROWES Wanting And Waiting 74 0 74 0.292

[shanas]

Really like this

Great return single

[Doc Indie Party Rock]

I've never been the biggest Black Crowes fan. It's cool they rock out, but a bit tame for my style.

[Daryl the Beryl]

Top 40 on Active:

0 32 BLACK CROWES Wanting And Waiting 218 0 218 0.697

Top 50 on AAA:

0 46 BLACK CROWES Wanting And Waiting 111 0 111 0.242

[Daryl the Beryl]

Top 30 on Active:

49 29 BLACK CROWES Wanting And Waiting 317 74 243 0.781

Top 40 on AAA: (yesterday's update)

271 38 BLACK CROWES Wanting And Waiting 173 13 160 0.31

[Daryl the Beryl]

Top 30 on AAA:

106 30 BLACK CROWES Wanting And Waiting 223 34 189 0.38

[Daryl the Beryl]

Top 20 on Active:

32 20 BLACK CROWES Wanting And Waiting 484 272 212 0.957

[Daryl the Beryl]

Top 20 on AAA:

25 19 BLACK CROWES Wanting And Waiting 360 256 104 0.449

Should I be surprised this is doing better at Active than at AAA?

[Daryl the Beryl]

Top 10 on AAA:

13 10 BLACK CROWES Wanting And Waiting 499 471 28 0.518

[The Party Captain]

Solid return to form. Glad they’re back with some Southern rock. They’re kinda the last of their kind.

[jdmasta289]

I was never a fan of these guys since the '90s but this song hits *hard* for me, particularly at first when I listened to it on KQRC (98.9 FM) at lunch - and I immediately like this better than most if not maybe all of their previous material. But maybe I just never appreciated their sound enough.

[Orbit]

Official Video:

[shanas]

This song grows and grows on me

Quality return after all these years

Glad to see it do well

[macattack]

Done on both formats. In the end though, this was a strong performance by a band that's been "hitless" for a while. Minor hit on Active, top 10 on AAA is pretty damn good.

16 21 BLACK CROWES Wanting And Waiting 548 755 -207 1.018

8 13 BLACK CROWES Wanting And Waiting 505 597 -92 0.746

[radio2009]

Apr 23, 2024 11:25:06 GMT -5 macattack said:

Done on both formats. In the end though, this was a strong performance by a band that's been "hitless" for a while. Minor hit on Active, top 10 on AAA is pretty damn good.

16 21 BLACK CROWES Wanting And Waiting 548 755 -207 1.018

8 13 BLACK CROWES Wanting And Waiting 505 597 -92 0.746

Making #16 on Active is "minor" to you?

[shanas]

great effort to do well on both formats

their new album is very strong and hope this isnt all that end up doing in the future

[macattack]

Apr 23, 2024 16:07:28 GMT -5 radio2009 said:

Apr 23, 2024 11:25:06 GMT -5 macattack said:

Done on both formats. In the end though, this was a strong performance by a band that's been "hitless" for a while. Minor hit on Active, top 10 on AAA is pretty damn good.

16 21 BLACK CROWES Wanting And Waiting 548 755 -207 1.018

8 13 BLACK CROWES Wanting And Waiting 505 597 -92 0.746

Making #16 on Active is "minor" to you?

Do you enjoy being an asshole? 

[Daryl the Beryl]

Apr 24, 2024 2:37:19 GMT -5 macattack said:

Apr 23, 2024 16:07:28 GMT -5 radio2009 said:

Making #16 on Active is "minor" to you?

Do you enjoy being an asshole? 

Come on, this is uncalled for. I guess maybe people have different standards as to what is a hit (Top 10? Top 20?) but I don't think there's a need to react back with insults.

Honestly, this did a bit better than I thought on active rock. Sure, they've had many top 10s in the 90s, but their last top 10 was all the way back in 2001 and the format has drastically changed (especially with the combination of active and heritage rock into one format), and we don't see songs such as this often and this high nowadays, in an alternative-metal/post grunge oriented direction. This was gonna do well at AAA regardless with classic rock acts like them still doing well over there, but doing as well on Active was always going to be a challenge.

I think what mac tried to say was that it was a decent (but not a big one) hit. It did okay, but not top 10-level, especially since it most likely won't make Billboard's year-end chart. That's not really a huge hit, I'd say. We'll see how it does in recurrent airplay.

[radio2009]

Apr 24, 2024 4:04:36 GMT -5 Daryl the Beryl said:

Apr 24, 2024 2:37:19 GMT -5 macattack said:

Do you enjoy being an asshole? 

Come on, this is uncalled for. I guess maybe people have different standards as to what is a hit (Top 10? Top 20?) but I don't think there's a need to react back with insults.

Honestly, this did a bit better than I thought on active rock. Sure, they've had many top 10s in the 90s, but their last top 10 was all the way back in 2001 and the format has drastically changed (especially with the combination of active and heritage rock into one format), and we don't see songs such as this often and this high nowadays, in an alternative-metal/post grunge oriented direction. This was gonna do well at AAA regardless with classic rock acts like them still doing well over there, but doing as well on Active was always going to be a challenge.

I think what mac tried to say was that it was a decent (but not a big one) hit. It did okay, but not top 10-level, especially since it most likely won't make Billboard's year-end chart. That's not really a huge hit, I'd say. We'll see how it does in recurrent airplay.

My point was that they hadn't this big of a hit since 2001. Even their 2007 comeback didn't yield a successful hit. I doubt anybody was expecting their first song in 15 from their first album in 15 years to break into the Top 20, it surprised everybody.

If that makes me an asshole, so be it. Let's how the followup singles do, if there are any.

[macattack]

My general rule of thumb is “hit” = top 10 peak or makes the first 30 spots in the top 50 year end, “minor hit” = top 20 peak or makes the final 20 spots on the top 50 year end.

There’s more that go into my personal metrics than that (audience numbers, spin counts, etc) but those are the basics.

[Doc Indie Party Rock]

Apr 24, 2024 20:18:22 GMT -5 macattack said:

My general rule of thumb is “hit” = top 10 peak or makes the first 30 spots in the top 50 year end, “minor hit” = top 20 peak or makes the final 20 spots on the top 50 year end.

There’s more that go into my personal metrics than that (audience numbers, spin counts, etc) but those are the basics.

I guess everyone has their own "Rule of thumb" For me Top 10 doesn't mean you have a hit etched in stone. Especially with today's "Free Pass" for heritage rock acts. Many times the official music charts just don't get it right. To me a certified hit is a song that stands the test of times or becomes even more popular 5 or 10 years after its Chart run. TBH I can't even remember half the songs that went top 10 on last years Active Chart. Many classic rock songs didn't even go top 10. I'll use an all time favorite from AC/DC to strengthen my point. "Back In Back". Probably their most known song from the Brian Johnson era. Only hit #51 in Billboard mainstream Rock when it was first released. I doubt anyone in the Rock world would consider that a "minor hit"? At the same time one of their songs from the 'Last Action Hero' soundtrack went to #1. "Big Gun" Does anyone even remember that one? 

[maseruck]

Apr 25, 2024 2:00:34 GMT -5 Doc Indie Party Rock said:

To me a certified hit is a song that stands the test of times or becomes even more popular 5 or 10 years after its Chart run. Many classic rock songs didn't even go top 10. I'll use an all time favorite from AC/DC to strengthen my point. "Back In Black". Probably their most known song from the Brian Johnson era. Only hit #51 in Billboard mainstream Rock when it was first released. I doubt anyone in the Rock world would consider that a "minor hit"? 

Great example. My go-to example of a song having high charting numbers yet not being recognizable anymore is UPO’s “Godless” from 2000. It peaked at #6, spent 12 weeks in the top ten, and went recurrent (in 26 week recurrent era, remember). I dare you to find a station anywhere (even satellite radio) that plays this song anymore.

[macattack]

Apr 25, 2024 2:00:34 GMT -5 Doc Indie Party Rock said:

Apr 24, 2024 20:18:22 GMT -5 macattack said:

My general rule of thumb is “hit” = top 10 peak or makes the first 30 spots in the top 50 year end, “minor hit” = top 20 peak or makes the final 20 spots on the top 50 year end.

There’s more that go into my personal metrics than that (audience numbers, spin counts, etc) but those are the basics.

I guess everyone has their own "Rule of thumb" For me Top 10 doesn't mean you have a hit etched in stone. Especially with today's "Free Pass" for heritage rock acts. Many times the official music charts just don't get it right. To me a certified hit is a song that stands the test of times or becomes even more popular 5 or 10 years after its Chart run. TBH I can't even remember half the songs that went top 10 on last years Active Chart. Many classic rock songs didn't even go top 10. I'll use an all time favorite from AC/DC to strengthen my point. "Back In Back". Probably their most known song from the Brian Johnson era. Only hit #51 in Billboard mainstream Rock when it was first released. I doubt anyone in the Rock world would consider that a "minor hit"? At the same time one of their songs from the 'Last Action Hero' soundtrack went to #1. "Big Gun" Does anyone even remember that one? 

I agree. For example, I consider "Get On Your Boots" by U2 to be a flop even though it peaked at #5 on Alt and #1 on AAA. It barely lasted two weeks on the charts due to getting abysmal callouts. There's "initial hits", and then there's the "true hits". 

"This Is Why" by Paramore, for example, looks likely to be downgraded to "minor hit" in a few years considering how much its recurrent airplay has fallen off. 

I think this specific Black Crowes song seems likely to linger on AAA, but Active probably not so much. You don't really know for sure until a few years go by.