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Post by sabre14 on Feb 16, 2024 15:25:13 GMT -5
#53 on the Mediabase country real-time chart.
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Post by jenglisbe on Feb 16, 2024 16:07:04 GMT -5
i wonder if there is a chance Beyonce does a remix of this with a popular Country singer to get an extra push at Country radio. It would be a dream to me: Miranda Lambert Sorry but no way she adds anyone white as a duet partner considering the intention behind this project.
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Post by J'back on Feb 16, 2024 16:14:00 GMT -5
It would be a dream to me: Miranda Lambert Sorry but no way she adds anyone white as a duet partner considering the intention behind this project. Miranda would be my dream too, but I would love for Mickey to get added. She deserves the push. Come on BeyBey!
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Post by thewp on Feb 16, 2024 17:50:58 GMT -5
It would be a dream to me: Miranda Lambert Sorry but no way she adds anyone white as a duet partner considering the intention behind this project. Exactly. Not to mention Miranda’s Kid Rock/ Aldean tour. Also, wouldn’t be beneficial if the goal is a radio hit. Bey would never. I hope for some more Black artists (on the album), (besides Rhiannon and Robert. Maybe Allison Russell. Maybe the Chicks given their history. Or maybe no features. She doesn’t need it.
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Post by raylatch98 on Feb 16, 2024 19:35:52 GMT -5
I find it funny how now people are vocal of not wanting Beyonce anywhere near country music when we have had non country singers singing in country music for a while hell within the last 10 years we have had one off songs that have featured Grace Potter, Demi Lovato, P!nk, The Backstreet Boys, Julia Michaels, Bebe Rexha, Tori Kelly, Justin Bieber, and Gwen Stefani, have all hit the Top 20 on country radio and yet when Beyonce does it as a solo act, it is not okay and she should stay in her own genre of music. I get if people don't like this song, but I feel like this should be celebrated that country radio is willing to play this song to some extent, and to have a black female artist on the country radio chart? That is just an amazing sight to behold.
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Post by gardyfan on Feb 16, 2024 21:48:27 GMT -5
Out of all the artists you listed Bebe's song with FGL was fine and I guess Julia with Urban was alright. The rest I did not care for. However I'm not against other artists giving country a shot. But it has to be a good song and Beyonce did not do that IMO. I tried listening to the other song she put out and oof not good either.
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Post by Juanca on Feb 16, 2024 21:58:05 GMT -5
I really like this! It’s a bop and I hope it becomes a hit with longevity -and with good visuals :) At the same time, the whole country AirPlay situation is iffy IMO. I’d love for her to be played and eventually have a hit, as long as it takes her what it’d take any newcomer to the genre… When I read such articles with programmers opinions I just wonder why they are then so resistant to play Kacey Musgraves, Zach Bryan, Tyler Childs, who have gotten strong streaming support; or Mickey Guyton, The War and Treaty, with critical acclaim and strong popularity.
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Post by recordyear on Feb 16, 2024 23:03:58 GMT -5
Debut at #54 on Billboard's Country Airplay chart this week.
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Post by mag on Feb 16, 2024 23:40:45 GMT -5
I like this song and the other one she released. I’m also waiting on Monica’s country song/album to see the light of day. This sounds better to me than a lot of music that have been played on country radio.
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Post by theoutsider on Feb 17, 2024 5:29:49 GMT -5
I’m going to pass on Beyoncé joining country music. I wish her the best in other genres but no thanks in country music.
Yeah, Agree with you.
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Post by @DiegoMarcondes_ on Feb 17, 2024 10:26:10 GMT -5
It would be a dream to me: Miranda Lambert Sorry but no way she adds anyone white as a duet partner considering the intention behind this project. You got a point. I agree, it's not compatible with this project. But it's still a dream to me, and sure it's a dream to Miranda too, she just assumed that.
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Post by christianlarson9 on Feb 17, 2024 11:33:40 GMT -5
It would be a dream to me: Miranda Lambert Sorry but no way she adds anyone white as a duet partner considering the intention behind this project. I think there's a stronger chance Maren Morris would be featured on it than Miranda although I could see Miranda maybe contributing songwriting wise to a few songs. Maren is a huge Beyonce fan, is from Texas and took quite a bit of influence from her on "Hero" (IMO). Plus Maren is now on the main Columbia label with no signs of her next era starting any time soon.
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Post by zdm1998 on Feb 17, 2024 17:12:30 GMT -5
I could see Carrie being on it. If there is a female country artist on it that’s not a POC I actually think she’s the most likely choice. I saw her name thrown around A LOT from Bey’s fanbase after she announced the country record, I’ve actually seen both fanbases wanting a collaboration between the two for quite sometime.
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Post by mag on Feb 17, 2024 19:45:29 GMT -5
I can definitely see The Chicks on a collaboration, or at least Natalie Maines. Due to the already known facts and both acts being from Texas.
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Post by 85la on Feb 18, 2024 11:03:43 GMT -5
I’m going to pass on Beyoncé joining country music. I wish her the best in other genres but no thanks in country music. Yeah, Agree with you.
Why? Would the two of you care to elaborate?
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Post by matty005 on Feb 18, 2024 11:53:39 GMT -5
I’m going to pass on Beyoncé joining country music. I wish her the best in other genres but no thanks in country music. To each their own. But man, this kind of mindset causes people to miss out on so much great music.
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Post by countryfan43 on Feb 18, 2024 12:02:58 GMT -5
Why? Would the two of you care to elaborate?
This isn’t a horrible song it just doesn’t belong on country radio. I don’t hear anything country about it although I wouldn’t mind it doing well on top 40 or hot AC radio.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2024 14:44:05 GMT -5
I can definitely see The Chicks on a collaboration, or at least Natalie Maines. Due to the already known facts and both acts being from Texas. I thought they wanted country radio to play this song? Adding the Chicks will only hurt that cause.
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Post by raylatch98 on Feb 18, 2024 14:52:34 GMT -5
I can definitely see The Chicks on a collaboration, or at least Natalie Maines. Due to the already known facts and both acts being from Texas. I thought they wanted country radio to play this song? Adding the Chicks will only hurt that cause. I think they were saying The Chicks would be on a song in general on the album.
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Post by taylor on Feb 18, 2024 15:16:43 GMT -5
Why? Would the two of you care to elaborate?
This isn’t a horrible song it just doesn’t belong on country radio. I don’t hear anything country about it although I wouldn’t mind it doing well on top 40 or hot AC radio. I happen to hear everything country about it. It’s literally drenched in country instrumentation: banjos, acoustic guitar, viola, fiddle. Those are COUNTRY instruments. This song is right at home in the genre, and it belongs on country radio so much more than the bland trap/clap pop beats that do a major disservice to the country genre. And I say that at the risk of sounding like a purist, and as someone who was born in 2000 and saw/heard the sonic shift in real time. “TEXAS HOLD EM” quite frankly takes me back to that time when I was a kid in the 2000s and very early 2010s, when the music on country radio actually had nothing but the exact same instruments you hear in this song. It deserves to do well on the country airplay chart, and if Bey were a white woman I have no doubt it would—ESPECIALLY in the 2000s.
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Post by 85la on Feb 18, 2024 15:21:50 GMT -5
Why? Would the two of you care to elaborate?
This isn’t a horrible song it just doesn’t belong on country radio. I don’t hear anything country about it although I wouldn’t mind it doing well on top 40 or hot AC radio. I strongly disagree, but even so, you originally said you wouldn't want to hear Beyonce IN GENERAL at all on country radio, not referring to this particular song. Why would you say that? Supposing she did release songs that you liked and that "sounded country." Would you be ok then with country radio playing them?
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Feb 18, 2024 17:38:53 GMT -5
So after having about a week to digest this, I like it a lot. Definitely a country song, leaning pop-country to be sure (nowhere near the heaviest lean either), but that has been a normal thing for country since like the Nashville sound came in in the 1950's so if you haven't gotten used to pop influences coming into the genre by now idk what to tell ya.
I don't particularly think this would get attention from radio if it wasn't Beyoncé. Sounds like a song that would get like 15 adds and fail to chart if it was by anybody else. (Not a bad thing mind you given how many flops I love.)
I do wish she had went even more traditional as that would've been even more interesting to hear what someone with her resources and star power could do. As it is it's a catchy radio single that should be a hit, radio has no reason not to play it and for the most part seems to be thinking the same thing from what I'm seeing. How they read the call-outs will be very very interesting as I expect there to be a lot of negative feedback.
Also I know there's live instruments in the recording, I mean Rhiannon Giddens is on it! But something in the production doesn't feel like a live recording, haven't figured why yet, but I'd love to hear an acoustic version down the line.
Hoping the album explores a variety of Country styles, if anybody can do it I think she can. Beyoncé doing Bluegrass would be fantastic. Or the long told story how "Irreplaceable" was written as a country song, I'd even love her to re-record that as that original intent. "16 Carriages" shows a more southern gospel influence than Country imo which is why I had the idea of a variety of sounds.
It's been since Darius Rucker & to a lesser extent Jewel since we had a truly successful cross over into country, I think something in the middle of them success wise would be the ideal here. (She's probably not sticking around like Darius did.)
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Post by sabre14 on Feb 18, 2024 19:32:45 GMT -5
Debuts at #50 on Mediabase country this week.
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Post by Leo ✔ on Feb 18, 2024 21:18:07 GMT -5
COUNTRY -- 50 BEYONCE Texas Hold 'Em 679 0 679 2.196
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Post by LBTrocks on Feb 18, 2024 21:32:42 GMT -5
I used to be a big Beyonce fan back in the day, but this is atrocious. "16 Carriages" is also horrible. I don't think i'm gonna like Country Bey.
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Post by gardyfan on Feb 18, 2024 21:37:50 GMT -5
I used to be a big Beyonce fan back in the day, but this is atrocious. "16 Carriages" is also horrible. I don't think i'm gonna like Country Bey. you and I agreeing on songs. I'm scared.
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Post by aldo01 on Feb 19, 2024 9:58:05 GMT -5
I wish people would stop bringing racism into this. Radio is probably not going to play Beyonce, but did radio give any significant airplay to any Taylor Swift single released after 2014? Did radio play John Mayer, Justin Timberlake or Steven Tyler when they serviced music to the country format? No.
Also, I can only laugh at people saying this song is not country when they probably think Aldean is a country music hero.
Does country radio have an issue with women? Sure. Does country radio have an issue with black women? It probably does, even though Mickey Guyton is the only black woman that hit the airwaves in the last 10 years I think - and maybe more-, and therefore we probably do not have elements to claim that every black woman does not get played. But can we talk about 'racism' when Kane Brown is one of the biggest acts in the genre, when Jimmie Allen was one of the most promising new stars and when Charley Pride is one of the greatest legends in country music?
The truth is country radio is not going to play this song because it is a collapsing system that has no idea what to do to retain fans anymore, and therefore keeps 'going safe': marathon chart runs and overplayed music are the result. Playing Beyonce, a pop superstar, is not safe enough for them. Just like playing Taylor Swift is not safe enough for them anymore. So relax and enjoy the new set of singles by Aldean, Jelly Roll and Morgan Wallen instead.
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Post by drod17 on Feb 19, 2024 10:12:22 GMT -5
I wish people would stop bringing racism into this. Radio is probably not going to play Beyonce, but did radio give any significant airplay to any Taylor Swift single released after 2014? Did radio play John Mayer, Justin Timberlake or Steven Tyler when they serviced music to the country format? No. Also, I can only laugh at people saying this song is not country when they probably think Aldean is a country music hero. Does country radio have an issue with women? Sure. Does country radio have an issue with black women? It probably does, even though Mickey Guyton is the only black woman that hit the airwaves in the last 10 years I think - and maybe more-, and therefore we probably do not have elements to claim that every black woman does not get played. But can we talk about 'racism' when Kane Brown is one of the biggest acts in the genre, when Jimmie Allen was one of the most promising new stars and when Charley Pride is one of the greatest legends in country music?The truth is country radio is not going to play this song because it is a collapsing system that has no idea what to do to retain fans anymore, and therefore keeps 'going safe': marathon chart runs and overplayed music are the result. Playing Beyonce, a pop superstar, is not safe enough for them. Just like playing Taylor Swift is not safe enough for them anymore. So relax and enjoy the new set of singles by Aldean, Jelly Roll and Morgan Wallen instead. Honestly, you were missing Darius Rucker to talk about what have been practically the only relevant black country artists in a few decades, so I think the answer is yeah we can talk about racism. Especially when in the same timeframe you've had more than 10 times the amount of white artists break through (even when their respective singles don't move the needle). I also think the difference between Texas Hold 'Em and the Swift/Mayer/Timberlake/Tyler is the amount of hype they have. Most of those singles had no buzz when they were released to radio.
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Post by raylatch98 on Feb 19, 2024 10:27:46 GMT -5
Okay to imply that country music doesn't have a race problem when the amount of black male singers who have had a fair amount of success can be count on one hand (Darius Rucker, Charlie Pride, Jimmie Allen, and Kane Brown) is just ignorant at best. Country music has always had a problem with race and black artists in the mainstream. Having only a few succeed doesn't make the genre absolved of having a race problem. On the last Billboard Country Airplay chart, 43 of the 60 songs were sung by white men (along with all male duos/groups) with no female vocals credited. Of the 60 songs only two are by minorities (this and Kane Brown's latest). Country music and the mainstream specifically has always had a problem with females, race, and equal airplay. To imply otherwise is just plain false.
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Post by aldo01 on Feb 19, 2024 10:43:27 GMT -5
Okay to imply that country music doesn't have a race problem when the amount of black male singers who have had a fair amount of success can be count on one hand (Darius Rucker, Charlie Pride, Jimmie Allen, and Kane Brown) is just ignorant at best. Country music has always had a problem with race and black artists in the mainstream. Having only a few succeed doesn't make the genre absolved of having a race problem. On the last Billboard Country Airplay chart, 43 of the 60 songs were sung by white men (along with all male duos/groups) with no female vocals credited. Of the 60 songs only two are by minorities (this and Kane Brown's latest). Country music and the mainstream specifically has always had a problem with females, race, and equal airplay. To imply otherwise is just plain false. It’s interesting how you always feel the need to insult people who are trying to make a point that does not fully reflect your opinion. Thank you for calling me ignorant. I am not in any way denying that there has been and there is racism in country music. What I am questioning is if it is fair to say that TODAY this song is not going to be played on country radio because of racism. Out of honest curiosity: how many black women and men have sent a lead single to country radio in the last 20 years aside from Darius Rucker, Mickey Guyton, Kane Brown and Dalton Dover? I am genuinely asking, because I am not sure how many more of them there are. Having said so, I do not deny in any way that there are deep race problems in the industry that prevent black women and men from getting record deals or significant promotion. All I am asking if this is the case. Not going to tolerate any insults or rude aggressions.
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