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Post by code on May 23, 2024 8:40:57 GMT -5
Kendrick got his first real hit since 2017 with Not Like Us but Drake didn't get humiliated in any way and you know nothing if you think this will affect his career in any way. First real hit since 2017? "All The Stars," "Pray for Me" and to a lesser extent, "N95," were "real hits." "Not Like Us" is his biggest hit since "Humble.," yes. You're talking to a drake stan, this beef just proved they are as mentally ill as barbz They went from "kendrick is scared to drop" to "drake never had a chance cause people hate him" Just ignore them moving forward |
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Post by clsvltn on May 23, 2024 8:49:38 GMT -5
Does Taylor suddenly have beef with Billie? Cuz whatโs going on hereโฆ Check the HITS album thread lol. Regarding the Drake vs. Kendrick beef, regardless of whether any of the allegations thrown at each other are true, yes, perception is indeed key rather than truth and is what really matters. The clear facts are that Kendrick's songs from this beef are ranking much higher than Drake's, so clearly, K has come out more dominant. Now of course, Drake has previously been the much more successful artist by far, so it makes sense that overall his back catalog will always stream better. Drake has already been on a decline though with his last few albums, and while it's not clear exactly the trajectory Kendrick's career might take, since he's clearly come out stronger now, I'd say he has a much higher chance of scoring a few more bigger hits rather than Drake. I'm not sure why some keep mentioning this perception? You do understand that Kendrick brought up things that have been said about Drake for years? It was just as big of news when it was Millie Bobbie Brown who was on the biggest show around at that time and it was in every publication and people talking about it. He still got #1 hits, sold out tours, huge album bombs, etc. And I am not saying it is anything to be proud of having these allegations lol please don't even think that... but what I am saying is Drake has had the same things for years and no one "cared". Kendrick is doing better now because he is like an entirely different person. We don't really ever see this side of him and he doesn't release too much - as many others have tried to point out why Drake is streaming better overall - people do like Kendrick, myself included, so they are invested in hearing this new side of him. There is a lot of curiosity factor and yeah, some of the disses are good but let's see if he keeps it up or what happens with future albums and how long he will wait to release in between this. It is too early to say who "won" anything because there is still a lot at play here. |
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Post by sedrickwilhelm on May 23, 2024 8:57:11 GMT -5
When the Millie Bobbie Brown stuff happened it was NOT as big as this Kendrick-Drake beef. To the extent that the light being shined on Drake's wrong doings from this beef is causing more people to care about the Millie Bobbie Brown thing NOW than when it actually came out. Same for the litany of videos and pictures coming out of him with other young girls. Especially that one girl I do not know the name of, but I did not even know about AT ALL where he was photo'd with her at 16 and then like the day she turned 18 he allegedly took her out on a date. I did not even KNOW about that one until this beef. I did know about the video of him on-stage with the 17 year old but once again I feel this beef has shined so much light onto even that specific instance that I'm witnessing tons of people find out about even that one for the first time.
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Post by GW on May 23, 2024 9:59:54 GMT -5
The Fortnight push is probably more driven towards the album chart and to keep the song inside top 10 one more week since early predictions had it falling out I believe. I appreciate this comment because it's rooted in logic, rather than thinly-veiled feelings towards a particular artist and making them out to be a monster for playing the same game nearly everyone else is playing. Some are just better at it than others, have more fans who have more spending power and willingness to support, etc. etc. That's just life. It's a business, the goal is to make money and stay atop the charts, folks, and if an artist and/or label want to compete, they have to be willing to strategize and make sh*t happen. It also seems like some of us have forgotten that many people actually enjoy collecting things, in this case by (and/or about) an artist(s) they enjoy. Taylor Swift, for example, has a large section of her fan base who grew up with her, and are her age, and have careers with money to spend on collecting things, tour tickets, etc. There seems to be this really ugly animosity toward Taylor for giving a lot to her fans and then receiving support in return. With all of today's stan investment in the charts and numbers (for ANYONE with a fanbase), they WANT ways to help their fave on the charts. How many times have people said "(x artist) should have discounted their single if they were smart" or "they should have released a deluxe with x y and z on it," "where's the remix?!?," and countless other things like this? Here we have a lable/artist who is doing all of the things, and enough of the fans are loving it and wanting to support on a level that keeps her on top, and some of us are like "she's doing too much" or "she's petty and doesn't want anyone else to succeed." Like come on. Just say you're envious and/or mad at how good republic/Taylor are at the game, and/or just don't like the artist and keep it moving. Again, this IS a competition, it's not a "oh let me relent my position for another artist out of charity and goodwill." Be all the way for real. Taylor is miles ahead of everybody and showing them what's possible with hard work, and being chastised for it by a bunch of bitter betties. I just wish people would be honest about what's behind their hate. If an artist continues to do their job and make a lot of music and tour regularly and keep their fans happy, the fans will likely want to keep supporting the artist, which will reflect on the charts. It is what it is. I don't love how the actual popularity of the music seems secondary to tactics in many cases, but it's always been this way, at least on some level, so whatever. One thing has always been true, hugely successful artists (specifically women) have always been bad guys for it, at least in the eyes of many. Like how dare they be a boss bitch thriving on capitalism and wanting to make history. How petty! |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on May 23, 2024 10:00:02 GMT -5
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1(=) Teddy Swims - Lose Control 83.23(+0.06) 2(=) Benson Boone - Beautiful Things 71.25(-0.17)
3(=) SZA - Saturn 65.01(+0.30)
4(=) Ariana Grande - we can't be friends (wait for your love) 59.09(+0.19)
5(=) Hozier - Too Sweet 54.85(+1.61)
6(=) Sabrina Carpenter - Feather 49.55(-0.39)
7(=) Doja Cat - Agora Hills 48.79(-0.49)
8(=) Jack Harlow - Lovin On Me 48.15(-1.02)
9(+2) Post Malone - I Had Some Help (feat. Morgan Wallen) 47.48(+2.37)
10(-1) Bailey Zimmerman - Where It Ends 46.95(+0.71)
49(+5) Kendrick Lamar - Not Like Us 20.56(+1.06)
53(+9) Billie Eilish - LUNCH 19.98(+2.20)
69(+3) Luke Combs - Ain't No Love In Oklahoma (From Twisters: The Album) 16.06(+1.40)
71(+4) Tommy Richman - MILLION DOLLAR BABY 15.57(+1.33)
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 23, 2024 10:18:07 GMT -5
Kendrick got his first real hit since 2017 with Not Like Us but Drake didn't get humiliated in any way and you know nothing if you think this will affect his career in any way. First real hit since 2017? "All The Stars," "Pray for Me" and to a lesser extent, "N95," were "real hits." "Not Like Us" is his biggest hit since "Humble.," yes. Okay, let's see. All the Stars spent 4 weeks in the top 10. Pray for Me spent 6 weeks in the top 10 and N95 spent 1 week in the top 10. If you consider these "real hits" then why do y'all love to act like Drake hasn't scored any "real hits" since 2018 when he has more than a handful of songs since then that have spent just as much and even more time in the top 10 than the aforementioned Kendrick songs? Kendrick got his first real hit since 2017 with Not Like Us but Drake didn't get humiliated in any way and you know nothing if you think this will affect his career in any way. No, Kendrick got his first real hit since Like That which is bigger than any of Drake hits since 2018. Metro's work is amazing but LT with and without Kendrick is two different tracks. I have to say, I LOVE the ignorance y'all have when it comes to Drake on this site. So quick and bold to speak on him, yet so ignorant about the very things you speak on. This is a list of some of Drake's hits AFTER 2018: No Guidance (23 weeks in the top 10). Wait for U (20 weeks in the top 10). Laugh Now Cry Later (19 weeks in the top 10). Life Is Good (17 weeks in the top 10). Rich Flex (10 weeks in the top 10). Toosie Slide (10 weeks in the top 10). Way 2 Sexy (9 weeks in the top 10). Jimmy Cooks (5 weeks in the top 10). Knife Talk (5 weeks in the top 10). Oh and btw, Like That, the song you say is a bigger hit than any Drake song since 2018, has only spent 7 weeks in the top 10 and is currently projected to drop out of the top 10 this week: The general public doesn't care about the beef nearly as much as you think and there's nothing to investigate. Kendrick only repeated a bunch of baseless social media talking points. Drake still hasn't been accused of anything by anyone and that dates back to 2018 when these baseless rumors started. In fact, all the women who people have tried to stick on Drake as "proof" of him being a pedo/groomer have all come out to flat-out deny that they ever had any weird interactions with him โ again, something that dates back to when these baseless rumors started so there is no "conversation around Drake" to be had other than repeating the same baseless lies that Kendrick repeats all over Not Like Us. You probably hope this affects him somehow, but it won't. This is the third major rap beef Drake has been in since 2015. Nothing has ever changed. . But it is clear that people are tired of him and that they want something new. If Kendrick were to start releasing more regularly and go a more commercial route he'd do better than Drake at this point What does your statement even mean? Going on to have the biggest rap album/singles/tour in 2018, after the Pusha beef is a shift in career trajectory? Scoring hits in 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023 and still remaining by far the biggest rap artist in the world is a shift in career trajectory? And how has he abandoned the person he "created" before that? He still does all the things he did before that beef, both in the music he makes and the way he lives his life. Your second paragraph is a bunch of nonsense. Drake has been the bigger artist in all his collaborations dating back to 2016. He's always the bigger artist on all his collaborations and you're a joker if you think artists will stop wanting to work with him because Kendrick repeated a bunch of nasty, nothing rumors about him that people have been mindlessly spewing for years but still haven't come an inch close to proving. What you're doing, is being a prisoner of the moment. You're thinking the internet is a reflection of the real world and what everyone thinks. Drake lost a beef in 2018, a beef in which his opponent put out a fake narrative that he was a deadbeat dad. That same year, people took a Millie Bobby Brown interview out of context and immediately jumped to calling him a pedo/groomer โ something nobody, till today, can prove. Something every woman they've tried to stick on him as "proof" of his bad behavior has come out to flat-out deny. Still, in the 6 years since then, he's remained the most dominant and successful rapper in the world. As for your statement about people being tired of him, that's simply the internet/social media doing what it does. The same people who claim they're tired of him stream his music more than they stream that of any other male musician. He keeps dropping the biggest albums in rap. So, who is lying? Or could the perception about people being tired of him be inaccurate? He just finished playing an 80-date arena tour in North America alone. All sold out. Broke the record for the highest-grossing rap tour ever. I wouldn't rush to buy into what the internet is selling regarding Drake so quickly if I was you. Does Taylor suddenly have beef with Billie? Cuz whatโs going on hereโฆ Check the HITS album thread lol. Regarding the Drake vs. Kendrick beef, regardless of whether any of the allegations thrown at each other are true, yes, perception is indeed key rather than truth and is what really matters. The clear facts are that Kendrick's songs from this beef are ranking much higher than Drake's, so clearly, K has come out more dominant. Now of course, Drake has previously been the much more successful artist by far, so it makes sense that overall his back catalog will always stream better. Drake has already been on a decline though with his last few albums, and while it's not clear exactly the trajectory Kendrick's career might take, since he's clearly come out stronger now, I'd say he has a much higher chance of scoring a few more bigger hits rather than Drake. We'll just have to wait and see how true this theory of yours ends up being. What I do know to be true is this: every Kendrick song this decade that's done any sort of real damage on the charts has been linked to him dissing Drake and that's true for Like That and Not Like Us. He dropped an album back in 2022 and pushed some radio-friendly singles that got zero traction on the charts, despite being his first album in 5 years and his first album since his most commercially-successful album, DAMN. We'll see if all the people currently supporting him to stick it to Drake hang around when his next album drops. As you can see, after a massive boost in his back catalog at the height of the beef, songs like euphoria, meet the grahams as well as streaming activity for his overall back catalog are already rapidly decreasing. When the Millie Bobbie Brown stuff happened it was NOT as big as this Kendrick-Drake beef. To the extent that the light being shined on Drake's wrong doings from this beef is causing more people to care about the Millie Bobbie Brown thing NOW than when it actually came out. Same for the litany of videos and pictures coming out of him with other young girls. Especially that one girl I do not know the name of, but I did not even know about AT ALL where he was photo'd with her at 16 and then like the day she turned 18 he took her out on a date. I did not even KNOW about that one until this beef. I did know about the video of him on-stage with the 17 year old but once again I feel this beef has shined so much light onto even that specific instance that I'm witnessing tons of people find out about even that one for the first time. Yes, it absolutely was. Because you didn't pay attention to anything Drake related outside of his presence on the charts back then, doesn't mean it wasn't a huge story back then. Nothing is "coming out" that hasn't already been there since 2018. You finding out about it now doesn't mean the rest of the world is just finding out about it. This is why I call all the claims against Drake baseless because that's exactly what they are. Everyone from Millie Bobby Brown, to the girl he took a picture with backstage at a Rihanna show in 2016 and then again at his show in 2018 (who is the famous Jimmy Jam's daughter and who attended Drake's show with her parents and siblings in tow and who Page Six falsely reported Drake went on a date with, only for TMZ and the girl herself to deny it ever happened as they were in different states on the alleged day), to the 17 year-old in the video from 14 years ago, have all come out to deny any wrongdoing on Drake's part. People have taken every single interaction he's had with a teenager since then and insisted it was creepy or reflective of dangerous behavior and all that has done is demonstrate how ridiculous the claims were in the first place. Again, none of this changes anything about Drake. If you want to use an adult having any sort of interaction with a teenager as proof of nasty behavior then everyone is guilty. It's been 6 years of people throwing baseless, nasty rumors on him that still, no one has come forward to stand on. Not any of the women they've used as an example of his bad behavior. Not any other woman people might not be aware of. So yes, people who hate Drake for whatever reason will be quick to believe the baseless lies Kendrick repeated about him. Those with some sense however, will do their quick research into those claims and see that there's absolutely nothing there to suggest something that nasty about someone. I say all of that to say: Drake will be more than fine. You'd be dumb to think Kendrick having his moment in the sun right now somehow means the destruction of Drake's reputation and image and career but maybe that's something some of you will just have to wait and see for yourselves. |
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Post by sedrickwilhelm on May 23, 2024 10:21:45 GMT -5
I've paid attention to Drake's music since 2009, longer than Kendrick who I got into in 2011. You assume wrong about me.
I do admit to liking Kendrick more than Drake. But you spoke about me like I don't care about Drake or something.
As for you "debunking" all the allegations in this here music chart forum, I feel the same as I did before reading all that, cuz I've read both sides a million times over. All whose word you choose to take.
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 23, 2024 10:32:54 GMT -5
I've paid attention to Drake's music since 2009, longer than Kendrick who I got into in 2011. You assume wrong about me.
I do admit to liking Kendrick more than Drake. But you spoke about me like I don't care about Drake or something.
You might be correct in saying you've paid attention to his music since 2009 and your statements about him really have nothing to do with you liking him or not. You're free to not like him. That's never an issue.ย My point is that while you might have paid attention to his music all these years, if you missed the Millie Bobby Brown story and the entire internet proceeding to call him a pedo/groomer following that and then digging up every harmless interaction he'd ever had with a teenager publicly up until that point and twisting it into something nefarious, then you're likely a casual listener who only ever pays attention to Drake as far as the music he releases is concerned and that's fine. Just don't speak on him like you've been paying attention to more than that when it comes to him. That's all I'm saying.ย You're free to like Kendrick and hate Drake or whatever you want. It's a free world. Personally, I'm a much bigger Drake fan but I've been a Kendrick fan since 2009 and I listen to all his music as well because I'm a huge rap fan. This forum just has a long history of speaking on Drake confidently when most of them don't care for him or anything concerning him and only know about him as far as his presence on the charts is concerned, which would be absolutely fine, until they start spewing stuff that demonstrates their ignorance where he's concerned and that's when I have to step in and correct folks.ย |
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Post by sedrickwilhelm on May 23, 2024 10:35:23 GMT -5
When did I say I missed the Millie Bobby Brown story? Reread what I said, I said I missed that other one of the picture with the 16 year old then allegedly dating her when she turned 18, that is a separate one from the Millie Bobby Brown. I did indeed hear about the Millie Bobby Brown story when it happened and it was not as big as the Kendrick-Drake beef.. C'mon now.
And you seem to forget just a few weeks ago I was gettin called a Drake fanboy defender up in here for speaking confidently about "Push Ups" chart chances..
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Post by neel on May 23, 2024 10:40:38 GMT -5
Ainโt no way motherfuckers here are writing whole ass paragraphs to defend BBL Drizzy. ๐๐ Kendrick already won guys.
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 23, 2024 10:43:54 GMT -5
When did I say I missed the Millie Bobby Brown story? Reread what I said, I said I missed that other one of the picture with the 16 year old then dating her when she turned 18, that is a separate one from the Millie Bobby Brown. I did indeed hear about the Millie Bobby Brown story when it happened and it was not as big as the Kendrick-Drake beef.. C'mon now. He never dated the girl you're bringing up. Her name is Bella Harris. She's the daughter of Jimmy Jam (one-half of the famous songwriting-production duo, Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis). Jimmy Jam is a good friend of Drake's. The picture she took with Drake in 2016 was backstage at Rihanna's show, back when he was still romantically involved with Rihanna. She attended that show with her parents and siblings (who Drake also took pictures with). The picture she took with Drake in 2018 was backstage at his own show, again, a show she attended with her parents and siblings. Page Six ran a fake story saying she went on a date with Drake. The only thing was that Drake was on tour at the time and she was in an entirely different city/state. Also, magically, there are no pictures/videos from the supposed date. Of course the story got so much fire that she had to come out and clarify/deny that she ever dated Drake. This is her denying/clarifying that she never went on a date with Drake.That's why it's dangerous to see a talking point online and immediately believe it because you don't like the person the story is about. A little research will dispell every single rumor regarding Drake but like I said earlier, those who hate him won't bother to do that research or will insist he did the wrongdoing even with proof stating otherwise while those with more common sense will see it for the nothing it is and move on.
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Post by clsvltn on May 23, 2024 10:53:48 GMT -5
Ainโt no way motherfuckers here are writing whole ass paragraphs to defend BBL Drizzy. ๐๐ Kendrick already won guys. Kendrick may have won the battle but he didn't win the war. It is too early to see how this, if at all, will impact either Kendrick OR Drake. |
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Post by Choco on May 23, 2024 11:04:41 GMT -5
They both got a lot of streams out of it and both are big enough that I don't see either of them losing in the sense of the audience leaving them. I do think Kendrick dropped the better songs but Drake will be fine.
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Post by clsvltn on May 23, 2024 11:07:29 GMT -5
Honestly, I don't really care for most of their diss songs and I am a huge Drake fan. The only ones I go back to/kept are Push Ups and Not Like Us (and then Like That but that is not "kendricks")
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Post by ๐ Eloquent โข on May 23, 2024 11:10:53 GMT -5
Respectfully, you can research all day and night, fact checking left and right, but the discussions around Drake being a potential groomer are not the product of detractors simply grasping at straws or haters "reaching". It is inherently odd that a man his age has repeatedly been found to have a pattern of messaging/privately interacting with underage girls. Him talking to Millie about "boys" and then saying how much they "miss" eachother gives me the ick personally. Of course these kids are going to deny any wrongdoing and see it as harmless, because they're not developed enough to understand how peculiar it really is. If these types of interactions are reflecting publicly, chances are they're even more prevalent privately. I get being a fan, but I don't understand the ideology of trying to pass such behavior off as totally normal/harmless. The video of him with the minor on stage alone was particularly creepy, especially considering when he acknowledged her age he still proceeded in an inappropriate fashion IMO. He has no good reason to be interacting with these girls and it is completely understandable that people question his motives and side eye him because of it and the criticisms are totally credible, as is questioning if he could be grooming them. When you take into context what is happening currently in the industry and all that is coming to light this only further exacerbates the issue.
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Post by Groovy on May 23, 2024 11:33:53 GMT -5
Ainโt no way motherfuckers here are writing whole ass paragraphs to defend BBL Drizzy. ๐๐ Kendrick already won guys. Thatโs an entire college essay ๐ |
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Post by Groovy on May 23, 2024 11:41:02 GMT -5
Also, idc how many weeks it spends in the top 10. Youโre not convincing me that Way 2 Sexy is more well known than Like That.
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Post by rosalina4812 on May 23, 2024 12:11:59 GMT -5
The truth is that Drake has been on a commercial decline since CLB and the Kendrick beef has accelerated that decline. Does Drake have another hit in him? Yes. Will Kendrick kick Drake out of the culture? No. But he will never be as big as he once was. His female fanbase has mostly abandoned him. The rap fans are clowning him. And his collabs will be more limited. Unless he makes a string of acclaimed albums like Taylor and Beyonce, Drake will be a legacy act in 3 years.
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 23, 2024 12:26:21 GMT -5
How have his female fans abandoned him? Most people at his just-concluded tour were women. Dozens of women infact, who were throwing bras on stage and screaming back his lyrics every single night ๐
Again, y'all keep being prisoners of the moment. How many rappers are coming close to Drake's numbers, especially over the years? Why does he have to ever be as big as he was at his commercial peak when even Drake at his lowest possible height commercially is still a much bigger artist than 99% of the rap game? ๐
I get hating the man but y'all are out here writing him off completely because of Kendrick scoring a hit song at his expense and it's hilarious to see but I guess I shouldn't be surprised because many of you have been looking for any reason to declare him finished. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if your wishes end up coming true ๐
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Post by awkwardowl on May 23, 2024 14:17:50 GMT -5
I have to say, I LOVE the ignorance y'all have when it comes to Drake on this site. So quick and bold to speak on him, yet so ignorant about the very things you speak on. This is a list of some of Drake's hits AFTER 2018: No Guidance (23 weeks in the top 10). Wait for U (20 weeks in the top 10). Laugh Now Cry Later (19 weeks in the top 10). Life Is Good (17 weeks in the top 10). Rich Flex (10 weeks in the top 10). Toosie Slide (10 weeks in the top 10). Way 2 Sexy (9 weeks in the top 10). Jimmy Cooks (5 weeks in the top 10). Knife Talk (5 weeks in the top 10). Oh and btw, Like That, the song you say is a bigger hit than any Drake song since 2018, has only spent 7 weeks in the top 10 and is currently projected to drop out of the top 10 this week: There's no better confirmation of my point than to put Chris Brown song as Drake's highest hit since 2018. This song peaked at #5 in the charts during one of the weakest chart periods in years when post-OTR #1s hit the top with 60-80% points of their peaks. WFU was overshadow by Jack during all their chartrun in top region despite it had good AM-fueled run. LNCL looks like best challenger here since the song had big start and decent legs during autumn season and it still doesn't fight for #1 after its debut. LIG doesn't do it even in first week, it only had legendary autoplay run on Youtube to diamond certification. The tracks below even doesn't had longetivity as an argument. Also it is not a list of some of Drake's hits after 2018. It is a list of Drake's biggest hits after 2018. He is a very strong hitmaker, he had amazing 2016 run and great 2018 and most of artists even doesn't see his chartrun after 2018. And still I doesn't see how any of these tracks are bigger than LT. Also I find the answer about All The Stars kinda questionable because this song below only two biggest Drake hits in Spotify counter. Anyway I better leave this point to someone else. And when it comes to where LT ends up this week. Drake responded to LT or the tracks following LT directly three times. Where this tracks are currently projected to be this week? |
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Post by thegreatdivine on May 23, 2024 14:52:01 GMT -5
Quoted me back and said a whole bunch of nothing. Can't say I'm surprised.
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Post by awkwardowl on May 23, 2024 14:56:43 GMT -5
Quoted me back and said a whole bunch of nothing. Can't say I'm surprised. I asked you a question. |
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Post by Choco on May 23, 2024 16:43:36 GMT -5
Ohhhhh just when the Billie v Taylor argument finally dried up  |
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Post by sayhey on May 23, 2024 17:16:08 GMT -5
So, Billie's Lunch is at 19.98M AI on day 5, gaining 2.20M yesterday. A promising start, I'd say. I feel like pop radio will eat this up. Given its risquรฉ lyrics, HAC might initially be a bit reluctant to pick it up but once pop puts it on heavy rotation I feel they'll follow suit too. Do you guys think this will become a big radio hit? I do hope so and I'd like to see it followed by the mesmerizing Birds of a Feather.
Also, pop/HAC seem to finally be dropping Taylor's Cruel Summer en masse in favor of Fortnight, which finally gained some AI after some drops. I still feel Taylor needs to soon ditch this in favor of ICDIWABH but we'll see.
And regarding Ariana, WCBF seems to be peaking. #4 on overall radio, #1 on pop and #7 on HAC is great, a solid radio hit. Her team needs to start aggressively pushing TBIM now. That song could potentially become a true pop/HAC and rhythmic smash! Plus, with the right push it could even go #1 on the Hot 100, it's really one of her catchiest songs ever. Actually, imagine if she officially released Fantasize to promote it, that'd be hilarious lol!
Oh, and Sabrina Carpenter's team needs to withdraw Feather from heavy rotation to accelerate Espresso's ascent. It's currently climbing too slowly given how well it's doing on streaming and that's really hurting its chart performance.
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Post by haven on May 23, 2024 17:34:38 GMT -5
i really really hate remix gaming, probably more than the average person. When im listening to an artist's discography, I want to be able to put it on and let it play while im doing whatever im doing. I dont wanna be constantly skipping slowed+reverb, instrumental versions or shitty half-baked remixes. putting out those versions are fine if people find use in them, but keep them off streaming services. i avoided mainstream artists for a long time for this exact reason.
i also hate live albums, but i seem to be in the minority there.
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Post by stormlover74 on May 23, 2024 17:38:25 GMT -5
So, Billie's Lunch is at 19.98M AI on day 5, gaining 2.20M yesterday. A promising start, I'd say. I feel like pop radio will eat this up. Given its risquรฉ lyrics, HAC might initially be a bit reluctant to pick it up but once pop puts it on heavy rotation I feel they'll follow suit too. Do you guys think this will become a big radio hit? I do hope so and I'd like to see it followed by the mesmerizing Birds of a Feather. Also, pop/HAC seem to finally be dropping Taylor's Cruel Summer en masse in favor of Fortnight, which finally gained some AI after some drops. I still feel Taylor needs to soon ditch this in favor of ICDIWABH but we'll see. And regarding Ariana, WCBF seems to be peaking. #4 on overall radio, #1 on pop and #7 on HAC is great, a solid radio hit. Her team needs to start aggressively pushing TBIM now. That song could potentially become a true pop/HAC and rhythmic smash! Plus, with the right push it could even go #1 on the Hot 100, it's really one of her catchiest songs ever. Actually, imagine if she officially released Fantasize to promote it, that'd be hilarious lol! Oh, and Sabrina Carpenter's team needs to withdraw Feather from heavy rotation to accelerate Espresso's ascent. It's currently climbing too slowly given how well it's doing on streaming and that's really hurting its chart performance. Not only that but I heard nonsense today on z100 in NYC. Espresso should rebound soon though now that's it entered the top 10 pop. |
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Post by wavey. on May 23, 2024 18:01:27 GMT -5
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Post by After Minutes on May 23, 2024 21:09:16 GMT -5
Drake's biggest hit since the dust settled after the Pusha T beef was Jimmy Cooks and all of his hits since then were either with him as a feature or collaborations. That is the point from which Drake turned from someone mostly pushing more obscure artists into the mainstream into someone who very skilfully rides microtrends - basically each single off FATD was exactly that, an attempt at riding a specific microtrend into commercial success. Before that point there still was a specific "Drake/Toronto/OVO" sound, but after that it disappeared because Drake got flamed to such an extent that his personal brand stopped being enough. Now he's more a conduit for trends than a trendsetter himself and that's how he retained his success. Saying otherwise is simply delusional. Whether or not Drake's career takes a big hit is based on whether the trendsetters with whom he collaborates will actually still want to work with him or not after this beef, because he's absolutely going to fall off without them
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Post by magik on May 23, 2024 22:43:46 GMT -5
The 4-page letters won't change the fact that those songs by Kendrick Lamar were legitimate hits (charted high, multi-platinum, etc.). I know Drake has many hits, so it distorts the Drake stans' definition of a hit, but those were real hits.
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