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Post by Groovy on Jun 30, 2024 9:51:03 GMT -5
Taylor Swift is huge but I think her current success pales in comparison to Gaga in 2009/2010, just an otherworldly artist. You had to be there. I was there and I’m sorry but this is delusional lol. I think we were all there |
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Post by lurker2 on Jun 30, 2024 9:52:43 GMT -5
I think the only artist on par with Taylor right now since I've started following was maybe Drake circa 2018, although that feels like a different kind of domination (I feel like his singles were somewhat stronger and his albums somewhat weaker, although both are obviously doing well on both fronts).
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Post by Soulsista on Jun 30, 2024 10:22:37 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 65, 60, 55, 50, and 45 years ago:
June 29, 1959 (For the week ending July 4)
01 01 The Battle Of New Orleans - Johnny Horton (5th of 6 weeks at #1)
02 02 Personality - Lloyd Price
03 04 Lonely Boy - Paul Anka
04 03 Dream Lover - Bobby Darin
05 10 Lipstick On Your Collar - Connie Francis
06 07 Tallahassee Lassie - Freddy Cannon
07 05 Kansas City - Wilbert Harrison
08 06 Quiet Village - Martin Denny
09 09 Along Came Jones - The Coasters
10 08 A Teenager In Love - Dion & The Belmonts
July 4, 1964
01 02 I Get Around - The Beach Boys (1st of 2 weeks at #1)
02 04 My Boy Lollipop - Millie
03 06 Memphis - Johnny Rivers
04 07 Don't Let The Sun Catch You Crying - Gerry & The Pacemakers
05 05 People - Barbra Streisand
06 01 A World Without Love - Peter & Gordon
07 03 Chapel Of Love - The Dixie Cups
08 18 Rag Doll - The Four Seasons
09 09 Bad To Me - Billy J. Kramer & The Dakotas
10 16 Can't You See That She's Mine - The Dave Clark Five
22 60 The Little Old Lady From Pasadena - Jan & Dean
July 5, 1969
01 01 Love Theme From Romeo And Juliet - Henry Mancini (2nd and final week at #1)
02 06 Spinning Wheel - Blood, Sweat & Tears
03 02 Bad Moon Rising - Creedence Clearwater Revival
04 08 Good Morning Starshine - Oliver
05 05 One - Three Dog Night
06 03 Get Back - The Beatles w/Billy Preston
07 18 Crystal Blue Persuasion - Tommy James & The Shondells
08 35 In The Year 2525 - Zager & Evans
09 13 Color Him Father - The Winstons
10 04 Too Busy Thinking About My Baby - Marvin Gaye
July 6, 1974
01 06 Rock The Boat - The Hues Corporation (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 Sundown - Gordon Lightfoot
03 02 Billy Don't Be a Hero - Bo Donaldson & The Heywoods
04 09 Rock Your Baby - George McCrae
05 05 If You Love Me - Olivia Newton-John
06 07 Hollywood Swinging - Kool & The Gang
07 03 You Make Me Feel Brand New - The Stylistics
08 10 Annie's Song - John Denver
09 12 You Won't See Me - Anne Murray
10 13 On & On - Gladys Knight & The Pips
25 50 Don't Let The Sun Go Down On Me - Elton John
July 7, 1979
01 01 Ring My Bell - Anita Ward (2nd and final week at #1)
02 03 Bad Girls - Donna Summer
03 02 Hot Stuff - Donna Summer
04 05 Chuck E's In Love - Rickie Lee Jones
05 07 She Believes In Me - Kenny Rogers
06 06 The Logical Song - Supertramp
07 08 Boogie Wonderland - Earth, Wind & Fire w/The Emotions
08 04 We Are Family - Sister Sledge
09 13 Makin' It - David Naughton
10 12 I Want You To Want Me - Cheap Trick
25 50 Good Times - Chic
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Post by Soulsista on Jun 30, 2024 10:47:06 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 from 40, 35, 30, 25, and 20 years ago:
July 7, 1984
01 03 When Doves Cry - Prince (1st of 5 weeks at #1)
02 02 Dancing In The Dark - Bruce Springsteen
03 05 Jump (For My Love) - The Pointer Sisters
04 04 Self Control - Laura Branigan
05 01 The Reflex - Duran Duran
06 08 Eyes Without a Face - Billy Idol
07 07 Time After Time - Cyndi Lauper
08 10 Almost Paradise - Mike Reno & Ann Wilson
09 06 The Heart Of Rock & Roll - Huey Lewis & The News
10 13 Legs - ZZ Top
July 8, 1989
01 02 Good Thing - Fine Young Cannibals (1st and only week at #1)
02 01 Baby Don't Forget My Number - Milli Vanilli
03 05 If You Don't Know Me By Now - Simply Red
04 06 Express Yourself - Madonna
05 11 Toy Soldiers - Martika
06 08 I Drove All Night - Cyndi Lauper
07 09 Miss You Like Crazy - Natalie Cole
08 03 Satisfied - Richard Marx
09 04 Buffalo Stance - Neneh Cherry
10 13 What You Don't Know - Expose
July 9, 1994
01 01 I Swear - All-4-One (8th of 11 weeks at #1)
02 02 Regulate - Warren G & Nate Dogg
03 03 Any Time, Any Place / And On And On - Janet Jackson
04 04 Don't Turn Around - Ace Of Base
05 08 Stay (I Missed You) - Lisa Loeb & Nine Stories
06 05 Back & Forth - Aaliyah
07 06 I'll Remember - Madonna
08 07 You Mean The World To Me - Toni Braxton
09 11 Can You Feel The Love Tonight - Elton John
10 10 If You Go - Jon Secada
July 10, 1999
01 01 If You Had My Love - Jennifer Lopez (5th and final week at #1)
02 11 Bills, Bills, Bills - Destiny's Child
03 03 Last Kiss - Pearl Jam
04 02 Livin' La Vida Loca - Ricky Martin
05 04 It's Not Right But It's Okay - Whitney Houston
06 06 I Want It That Way - The Backstreet Boys
07 09 Where My Girls At? - 702
08 13 Wild Wild West - Will Smith feat. Dru Hill & Kool Moe Dee
09 07 Fortunate - Maxwell
10 05 The Hardest Thing - 98 Degrees
12 61 Genie In a Bottle - Christina Aguilera
July 3, 2004
01 01 Burn - Usher (7th of 8 weeks at #1)
02 02 Confessions Part II - Usher
03 03 The Reason - Hoobastank
04 05 If I Ain't Got You - Alicia Keys
05 12 Slow Motion - Juvenile feat. Soulja Slim
06 04 I Don't Wanna Know - Mario Winans feat. P. Diddy & Enya
07 09 Freek-A-Leek - Petey Pablo
08 10 Yeah! - Usher feat. Ludacris & Lil Jon
09 06 Overnight Celebrity - Twista
10 08 This Love - Maroon 5
24 52 Lean Back - Terror Squad
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Post by Soulsista on Jun 30, 2024 11:07:01 GMT -5
Billboard Top 10 Flashback:
July 4, 2009
01 01 Boom Boom Pow - The Black Eyed Peas (12th and final week at #1)
02 02 I Gotta Feeling - The Black Eyed Peas
03 27 Best I Ever Had - Drake
04 03 Knock You Down - Keri Hilson feat. Kanye West & Ne-Yo
05 04 I Know You Want Me (Calle Ocho) - Pitbull
06 05 LoveGame - Lady Gaga
07 08 Fire Burning - Sean Kingston
08 06 Birthday Sex - Jeremih
09 09 Second Chance - Shinedown
10 34 Every Girl - Young Money
July 5, 2014
01 01 Fancy - Iggy Azalea feat. Charli XCX (5th of 7 weeks at #1)
02 02 Problem - Ariana Grande feat. Iggy Azalea
03 03 Rude - MAGIC!
04 07 Am I Wrong - Nico & Vinz
05 10 Stay With Me - Sam Smith
06 05 Wiggle - Jason Derulo feat. Snoop Dogg
07 04 All Of Me - John Legend
08 09 Summer - Calvin Harris
09 06 Turn Down For What - DJ Snake & Lil Jon
10 08 Happy - Pharrell Williams
14 NE Maps - Maroon 5
July 6, 2019
01 01 Old Town Road - Lil Nas X feat. Billy Ray Cyrus (13th of 19 weeks at #1)
02 NE Señorita - Shawn Mendes & Camila Cabello
03 03 bad guy - Billie Eilish
04 04 Talk - Khalid
05 05 I Don't Care - Ed Sheeran & Justin Bieber
06 06 Sucker - The Jonas Brothers
07 09 Suge - DaBaby
08 07 Money In The Grave - Drake feat. Rick Ross
09 10 No Guidance - Chris Brown feat. Drake
10 08 Wow. - Post Malone
16 NE Panini - Lil Nas X
20 NE Megatron - Nicki Minaj
22 NE Rodeo - Lil Nas X & Cardi B
July 8, 2023
01 01 Last Night - Morgan Wallen (13th of 16 weeks at #1)
02 02 Fast Car - Luke Combs
03 03 Calm Down - Rema & Selena Gomez
04 04 Flowers - Miley Cyrus
05 05 All My Life - Lil Durk feat. J. Cole
06 06 Favorite Song - Toosii
07 NE Barbie World - Nicki Minaj & Ice Spice w/Aqua
08 07 Karma - Taylor Swift feat. Ice Spice
09 08 Kill Bill - SZA
10 09 Creepin' - Metro Boomin, The Weeknd & 21 Savage
19 NE Oh U Went - Young Thug feat. Drake
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Post by Soulsista on Jun 30, 2024 11:12:16 GMT -5
July 10, 199901 01 If You Had My Love - Jennifer Lopez (5th and final week at #1)02 11 Bills, Bills, Bills - Destiny's Child 03 03 Last Kiss - Pearl Jam 04 02 Livin' La Vida Loca - Ricky Martin 05 04 It's Not Right But It's Okay - Whitney Houston 06 06 I Want It That Way - The Backstreet Boys 07 09 Where My Girls At? - 702 08 13 Wild Wild West - Will Smith feat. Dru Hill & Kool Moe Dee 09 07 Fortunate - Maxwell 10 05 The Hardest Thing - 98 Degrees 12 61 Genie In a Bottle - Christina Aguilera Top 10 without airplay-only singles: 01 If You Had My Love - Jennifer Lopez (5th and final week at #1) 02 Bills, Bills, Bills - Destiny's Child 03 Last Kiss - Pearl Jam 04 Livin' La Vida Loca - Ricky Martin 05 It's Not Right But It's Okay - Whitney Houston 06 Where My Girls At? - 702 07 Fortunate - Maxwell 08 The Hardest Thing - 98 Degrees 09 No Scrubs - TLC 10 Genie In a Bottle - Christina Aguilera (debut) |
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Post by fridayteenage on Jun 30, 2024 12:57:42 GMT -5
fame+fame monster+born this way got a combined two weeks #1.
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Post by 85la on Jun 30, 2024 21:58:07 GMT -5
Taylor Swift is huge but I think her current success pales in comparison to Gaga in 2009/2010, just an otherworldly artist. You had to be there. I was there and I’m sorry but this is delusional lol.
"Success" maybe isn't the right word (Gaga's objective sales and consumption numbers do pale in comparison to Swift's), but "impact" could be argued for.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2024 23:23:58 GMT -5
fame+fame monster+born this way got a combined two weeks #1. On the albums or singles chart? I'm pretty sure Born This Way the song was at #1 for six weeks or so. |
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Post by avamaxstan on Jul 1, 2024 11:37:04 GMT -5
I was there and I’m sorry but this is delusional lol.
"Success" maybe isn't the right word (Gaga's objective sales and consumption numbers do pale in comparison to Swift's), but "impact" could be argued for.
No... lol. The Eras Tour is creating measurable economic shifts in the areas it stops through, each concert is treated like a cultural/political summit with heads of state and royals attending. Her most recent relationship was the biggest entertainment story of the year and led to record increases in NFL viewership. She is considered the most coveted endorsement of this presidential election, 20% of voters say her endorsement would sway their vote, and she polls 30+ points higher than both Biden and Trump. Gaga, to her credit, had about a year of dominating pop culture. But once the novelty of her crazy costumes and gimmicks wore off, so did her relevance and impact. |
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Post by Groovy on Jul 1, 2024 12:15:14 GMT -5
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Post by 85la on Jul 1, 2024 13:08:40 GMT -5
"Success" maybe isn't the right word (Gaga's objective sales and consumption numbers do pale in comparison to Swift's), but "impact" could be argued for.
No... lol. The Eras Tour is creating measurable economic shifts in the areas it stops through, each concert is treated like a cultural/political summit with heads of state and royals attending. Her most recent relationship was the biggest entertainment story of the year and led to record increases in NFL viewership. She is considered the most coveted endorsement of this presidential election, 20% of voters say her endorsement would sway their vote, and she polls 30+ points higher than both Biden and Trump. Gaga, to her credit, had about a year of dominating pop culture. But once the novelty of her crazy costumes and gimmicks wore off, so did her relevance and impact. It's interesting, so you're referring mainly to ways Taylor has been impactful during the past year mainly besides her music itself, but what about the music? Was it as original, groundbreaking, and influential as the electropop of Lady Gaga, who pretty much spearheaded the turn of the new wave of that genre around 2010? I'm not implying Taylor's wasnt, I'm interested in hearing your opinions about that specifically. |
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Post by 85la on Jul 1, 2024 13:13:43 GMT -5
fame+fame monster+born this way got a combined two weeks #1. On the albums or singles chart? I'm pretty sure Born This Way the song was at #1 for six weeks or so. It was, plus Just Dance was #1 for three weeks, and Poker Face for one (so a total of 10 weeks at #1 on the singles chart for those eras), but weeks at #1 ≠ success or impact lol. |
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Post by makoshark on Jul 1, 2024 13:27:00 GMT -5
No... lol. The Eras Tour is creating measurable economic shifts in the areas it stops through, each concert is treated like a cultural/political summit with heads of state and royals attending. Her most recent relationship was the biggest entertainment story of the year and led to record increases in NFL viewership. She is considered the most coveted endorsement of this presidential election, 20% of voters say her endorsement would sway their vote, and she polls 30+ points higher than both Biden and Trump. Gaga, to her credit, had about a year of dominating pop culture. But once the novelty of her crazy costumes and gimmicks wore off, so did her relevance and impact. It's interesting, so you're referring mainly to ways Taylor has been impactful during the past year mainly besides her music itself, but what about the music? Was it as original, groundbreaking, and influential as the electropop of Lady Gaga, who pretty much spearheaded the turn of the new wave of that genre around 2010? I'm not implying Taylor's wasnt, I'm interested in hearing your opinions about that specifically. I think there’s a good argument that Taylor pushed popular music sound to be more focused on personal lyrics and storytelling. Ed Sheeran earlier, and Noah Kahan, Zach Bryan, Olivia Rodrigo, Sabrina Carpenter more recently are examples, plus arguably Billie Eilish. None of this is in a vacuum and Taylor is obviously also heavily influenced by others including Lana Del Rey and older artists like Stevie Nicks, but Taylor pushed it into a new popularity. And her synthpop collabs with Max Martin using an 80s sound highly successfully arguably pushed Max Martin to use this sound heavily in future collabs like with The Weeknd. |
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Post by tfa20 on Jul 1, 2024 13:28:04 GMT -5
On the albums or singles chart? I'm pretty sure Born This Way the song was at #1 for six weeks or so. It was, plus Just Dance was #1 for three weeks, and Poker Face for one (so a total of 10 weeks at #1 on the singles chart for those eras), but weeks at #1 ≠ success or impact lol. What exactly is the crux of your argument? |
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Post by avamaxstan on Jul 1, 2024 13:30:36 GMT -5
No... lol. The Eras Tour is creating measurable economic shifts in the areas it stops through, each concert is treated like a cultural/political summit with heads of state and royals attending. Her most recent relationship was the biggest entertainment story of the year and led to record increases in NFL viewership. She is considered the most coveted endorsement of this presidential election, 20% of voters say her endorsement would sway their vote, and she polls 30+ points higher than both Biden and Trump. Gaga, to her credit, had about a year of dominating pop culture. But once the novelty of her crazy costumes and gimmicks wore off, so did her relevance and impact. It's interesting, so you're referring mainly to ways Taylor has been impactful during the past year mainly besides her music itself, but what about the music? Was it as original, groundbreaking, and influential as the electropop of Lady Gaga, who pretty much spearheaded the turn of the new wave of that genre around 2010? I'm not implying Taylor's wasnt, I'm interested in hearing your opinions about that specifically. The success and consumption of the music is the impact. And Taylor is the most consumed artist of the past two decades. If you need a more direct visual for how impactful and remembered their songs are, compare the streaming numbers for Gaga's back catalogue to Taylor's. Little monsters have taken to a historical rewrite where Lady Gaga birthed electropop into the mainstream, when several big artists were already doing electropop in the late 2000s before her rise. And unlike Britney, Beyonce, Taylor or Billie, we didn't see a crop of "Gaga clones" emerge on the pop scene that were directly inspired by her. Her impact was mainly seen in other pop stars starting to also wear weird outfits for a couple of years. |
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Post by makoshark on Jul 1, 2024 13:30:39 GMT -5
It's interesting, so you're referring mainly to ways Taylor has been impactful during the past year mainly besides her music itself, but what about the music? Was it as original, groundbreaking, and influential as the electropop of Lady Gaga, who pretty much spearheaded the turn of the new wave of that genre around 2010? I'm not implying Taylor's wasnt, I'm interested in hearing your opinions about that specifically. I think there’s a good argument that Taylor pushed popular music sound to be more focused on personal lyrics and storytelling. Ed Sheeran earlier, and Noah Kahan, Zach Bryan, Olivia Rodrigo, Sabrina Carpenter more recently are examples, plus arguably Billie Eilish. None of this is in a vacuum and Taylor is obviously also heavily influenced by others including Lana Del Rey and older artists like Stevie Nicks, but Taylor pushed it into a new popularity. And her synthpop collabs with Max Martin using an 80s sound highly successfully arguably pushed Max Martin to use this sound heavily in future collabs like with The Weeknd. For a synthesis of this argument: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_impact_of_Taylor_Swift |
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Post by 85la on Jul 1, 2024 13:42:02 GMT -5
It was, plus Just Dance was #1 for three weeks, and Poker Face for one (so a total of 10 weeks at #1 on the singles chart for those eras), but weeks at #1 ≠ success or impact lol. What exactly is the crux of your argument? Did I not make it clear? lol. I was elaborating on the follow-up to the original post, clarifying that Gaga had 3 #1s which lasted a total of 10 weeks for The Fame - Fame Monster - and Born This Way eras combined, but that weeks at #1 on the album and/or singles chart don't directly correlate with "success" or "impact" anyway, which is what the original poster seemed to be implying. |
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Post by Baby Yoda Hot100Fan on Jul 1, 2024 13:47:28 GMT -5
7/1/2024 By Gary Trust
The track also reaches the top of the Radio Songs ranking.
Post Malone’s “I Had Some Help,” featuring Morgan Wallen, rebounds from No. 2 for a sixth week at No. 1 on the Billboard Hot 100 songs chart. The song, Post Malone’s sixth leader and Wallen’s second, spent its first five weeks on the list at No. 1 beginning upon its debut in May.
The collaboration is the first to log six weeks at No. 1 on the Hot 100 in 2024, surpassing the five weeks on top, of six total dating to late 2023, for Jack Harlow’s “Lovin on Me.” No song has led longer since Wallen’s “Last Night” rang up 16 weeks, nonconsecutively, at No. 1 in March-August last year.
“I Had Some Help” also hits No. 1 on the Radio Songs chart, becoming a rare title that has topped the all-format airplay tally as well as the Country Airplay survey.
Plus, Shaboozey’s “A Bar Song (Tipsy)” rises to a new No. 2 Hot 100 high; Kendrick Lamar’s former leader “Not Like Us” jumps 6-3, and returns to No. 1 on the Streaming Songs chart, following his Juneteenth The Pop Out: Ken & Friends concert – in which he performed the track five times; and Sabrina Carpenter claims two songs in the Hot 100’s top five for a third week.
The Hot 100 blends all-genre U.S. streaming (official audio and official video), radio airplay and sales data, the lattermost metric reflecting purchases of physical singles and digital tracks from full-service digital music retailers; digital singles sales from direct-to-consumer (D2C) sites are excluded from chart calculations. All charts (dated July 6, 2024) will update on Billboard.com tomorrow, July 2. For all chart news, you can follow billboard and billboardcharts on both X, formerly known as Twitter, and Instagram. Luminate, the independent data provider to the Billboard charts, completes a thorough review of all data submissions used in compiling the weekly chart rankings. Luminate reviews and authenticates data. In partnership with Billboard, data deemed suspicious or unverifiable is removed, using established criteria, before final chart calculations are made and published. Below is a rundown of the latest Hot 100’s top 10.
“I Had Some Help,” on Mercury/Big Loud/Republic, adds a sixth week at No. 1 on the Hot 100, with 76.5 million radio airplay audience impressions (up 5%), 39.1 million official streams (down 3%) and 12,000 sold (down 8%) in the U.S. June 21-27.
The team-up climbs 2-1 on Radio Songs – becoming Post Malone’s second leader, after “Circles” dominated for 11 weeks in 2019-20, and Wallen’s first. It also keeps at No. 3 after two weeks atop Digital Song Sales, and slips 2-4 after it led Streaming Songs chart in its debut week.
As it leads Country Airplay for a second week, “I Had Some Help” becomes just the sixth song to have topped the Country Airplay and all-format Radio Songs charts, dating to the lists’ 1990 inceptions (and the latter’s 1998 expansion to include country panelists, among other format reporters). Below is a recap, with all six songs having achieved both country and pop/adult radio success, as they have all reached the top 10 on the Pop Airplay, Adult Pop Airplay and Adult Contemporary charts in addition to their Country Airplay coronations.
Plus, “I Had Some Help” hits No. 1 in just its eighth week on Radio Songs, by far the fastest trip to the top among the six hits below.
Radio Songs No. 1s That Have Also Topped Country Airplay:
*Weeks to No. 1 on Radio Songs in ()
“I Had Some Help,” Post Malone feat. Morgan Wallen, one week at No. 1, to date, on Radio Songs, July 6, 2024 (8)
“Fast Car,” Luke Combs, four weeks, 2023 (16)
“I Hope,” Gabby Barrett feat. Charlie Puth (Barrett was solely credited on Country Airplay; Puth joined for its pop remix), one, 2020 (35)
“Meant To Be,” Bebe Rexha & Florida Georgia Line, five weeks, 2018 (14)
“Need You Now,” Lady A, two, 2010 (26)
“You Belong With Me,” Taylor Swift, two, 2009 (21)
“I Had Some Help” concurrently rules the multimetric Songs of the Summer chart for a fifth week and Hot Country Songs for a seventh frame.
Shaboozey Raises ‘Bar’
Shaboozey’s “A Bar Song (Tipsy)” ascends 3-2 for a new Hot 100 best.
The track leads Digital Song Sales for a seventh week (22,000 sold, up 7%). It boasts the most weeks at No. 1 on the chart by a soloist in the 2020s; among all acts, only BTS’ “Butter” (2021) and “Dynamite” (2020-12) have spent more time on top, 18 weeks each, this decade.
‘Not Like Us’ Leaps
Kendrick Lamar’s “Not Like Us,” which ruled the Hot 100 in its debut week in May, bounds 6-3, following his Juneteenth The Pop Out: Ken & Friends concert – in which he performed the seething diss track five times – at the Kia Forum in Inglewood, Calif.
The single flies 6-1 for a fourth week atop Streaming Songs, up 30% to 45.4 million streams, good for top Streaming Gainer honors on the Hot 100. It’s also up 101% to 8,000 sold as it wins the Hot 100’s top Sales Gainer award.
The track rules the multimetric Hot Rap Songs chart for a seventh week and Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs for a fifth week.
Carpenter Continues With 2 in Top 5
Sabrina Carpenter’s “Please Please Please” falls to No. 5 on the Hot 100, a week after it became her first No. 1, and “Espresso” holds at No. 4 after reaching No. 3.
“Please Please Please” earns the Hot 100’s top Airplay Gainer nod (9.7 million in audience, up 203%). It soars onto the Pop Airplay chart (helped by multiple radio-friendly edits) at No. 24; “Espresso” rises 3-2 for a new Pop Airplay high and prior single “Feather,” which became Carpenter’s first No. 1 on the chart in April, ranks at No. 12. She is the only artist with three songs on the survey.
Carpenter notches a third week with two songs in the Hot 100’s top five simultaneously – she remains the only act with multiple such frames in 2024.
Richman Leads Rest of Top 10
Tommy Richman’s “Million Dollar Baby” backtracks 5-6 on the Hot 100, after hitting No. 2. It tops the multimetric Hot R&B Songs chart for a ninth week.
Hozier’s “Too Sweet” is steady at No. 7 on the Hot 100, following a week at No. 1 in April. It leads the multimetric Hot Rock Songs and Hot Alternative Songs charts for a 13th week each and Hot Rock & Alternative Songs for a 12th week.
The rest of the Hot 100’s top 10 is likewise stationary, with Benson Boone’s No. 2-peaking “Beautiful Things” at No. 8, Teddy Swims’ “Lose Control,” which reigned for a week in March, at No. 9 and Billie Eilish’s “Birds of a Feather” at No. 10 after hitting No. 9.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Jul 1, 2024 14:04:45 GMT -5
Rihanna was the primary driver of female dance pop making a comeback, not Lady Gaga. "SOS," "Please Don't Stop The Music," and "Disturbia" molded the landscape for an artist like Gaga to even breakthrough. Clock the chart runs of "Disturbia" and "Just Dance" at Top 40. Rihanna literally passed off a torch.
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Post by 85la on Jul 1, 2024 14:10:14 GMT -5
It's interesting, so you're referring mainly to ways Taylor has been impactful during the past year mainly besides her music itself, but what about the music? Was it as original, groundbreaking, and influential as the electropop of Lady Gaga, who pretty much spearheaded the turn of the new wave of that genre around 2010? I'm not implying Taylor's wasnt, I'm interested in hearing your opinions about that specifically. The success and consumption of the music is the impact. And Taylor is the most consumed artist of the past two decades. If you need a more direct visual for how impactful and remembered their songs are, compare the streaming numbers for Gaga's back catalogue to Taylor's. Little monsters have taken to a historical rewrite where Lady Gaga birthed electropop into the mainstream, when several big artists were already doing electropop in the late 2000s before her rise. And unlike Britney, Beyonce, Taylor or Billie, we didn't see a crop of "Gaga clones" emerge on the pop scene that were directly inspired by her. Her impact was mainly seen in other pop stars starting to also wear weird outfits for a couple of years. Ugh, this reads like the typical Swiftie BS where anytime anyone dares say another artist possibly had the "success" and "impact," however you want to define that, at one time that possibly rivaled the success and impact Taylor is having now, they keep getting shot down. Notice how I never said Gaga definitely had or exceeded the success and impact Taylor is having now, I just said it could be possibly put up for discussion because Gaga was so huge back then. And yes, I already admitted in my first response to you that Taylor is consumed more and has more streams, I never put that into contention. Let me clarify now that I am moving from that and pivoting more into the aspects of the music itself, genre and style-wise specifically, that had more of an impact on popular music and who and what became popular from then on. Did Taylor "birth" any genres or create any "clones" that emerged on the scene, or was her music radically all that different from what had already been done before? I never said Gaga "birthed" electropop into the mainstream, but it's very clear that it became much more popular after her, and that she didn't create it, but was rather a symbol of and definitely responsible for bringing some elements to the new form of it that was emerging around 2010. Trust me, it was more than just other stars staring to wear weird outfits for a couple of years. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 1, 2024 14:18:32 GMT -5
It's interesting, so you're referring mainly to ways Taylor has been impactful during the past year mainly besides her music itself, but what about the music? Was it as original, groundbreaking, and influential as the electropop of Lady Gaga, who pretty much spearheaded the turn of the new wave of that genre around 2010? I'm not implying Taylor's wasnt, I'm interested in hearing your opinions about that specifically. I think there’s a good argument that Taylor pushed popular music sound to be more focused on personal lyrics and storytelling. Ed Sheeran earlier, and Noah Kahan, Zach Bryan, Olivia Rodrigo, Sabrina Carpenter more recently are examples, plus arguably Billie Eilish. None of this is in a vacuum and Taylor is obviously also heavily influenced by others including Lana Del Rey and older artists like Stevie Nicks, but Taylor pushed it into a new popularity. And her synthpop collabs with Max Martin using an 80s sound highly successfully arguably pushed Max Martin to use this sound heavily in future collabs like with The Weeknd. I'd argue popular female artists who write have always written personal lyrics, including in a storytelling sense. Look at singles by Madonna ("Live to Tell" and "Oh Father" come to mind, but others too), Mariah ("One Sweet Day," "My All," "The Roof," “Obsessed,” etc), Pink ("Don't Let Me Get Me," "Family Portrait," etc), Britney "(Everytime" in particular), Kelly Clarkson ("Because of You," "Sober, etc), and so on. Even around the time Swift hit big, you had someone like Amy Winehouse having a hit with the very personal "Rehab." Adele was of course writing personal, storytelling songs in the late 2000s and early 2010s. I think what Swift did more than any of them is encourage people to relate them to the specific famous people in her life, but over the years plenty of successful women have been writing personal songs and releasing them as singles so I don't see where that's something specific to Swift. |
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Post by iHype. on Jul 1, 2024 14:29:44 GMT -5
Rihanna was the primary driver of female dance pop making a comeback, not Lady Gaga. "SOS," "Please Don't Stop The Music," and "Disturbia" molded the landscape for an artist like Gaga to even breakthrough. Clock the chart runs of "Disturbia" and "Just Dance" at Top 40. Rihanna literally passed off a torch. Ugh, I dislike this discussion because hilariously these forums always try to link it to only one particular female Pop artist when.... it just isn't the case. There was always a few Dance-Pop hits every year in US during the 2000s. Madonna's Music (2000), Kylie's Can't Get You Out of My Head (2001), Daniel Beddingfield's Gotta Get Thru This (2002), Britney's Toxic, Cascada's Everytime We Touch peaked right before "SOS" dropped etc. It was never a truly obscure sound or needed one artist to make it relevant, moreso it wasn't the go-to sound, and when it did start to truly thrive in the late 2000s the person that comes to mind as consistently making it a chart successful sound is Timbaland. In 2006 he did Nelly Furtado's album (Promiscious, Maneater), JT's album (SexyBack, My Love, etc), and his protégé Danja then copy+pasted those sounds over to Britney's Blackout album. But even the Britney album wasn't successful or influential at the time so I just laugh with the revisionist history on that. Not to mention he then released his own album which had hit singles like "The Way I Are" right before "Gimme More" dropped too. So yeah, Timbaland had already gotten Dance-Pop into consistent chart hits by the time Rihanna, Gaga, Britney, and company did so in late 2000s. |
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Post by Groovy on Jul 1, 2024 14:49:29 GMT -5
Talking about the charts, it’s great that A Bar Song reached a new peak, hopefully it gets to 1.
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Post by pnobelysk on Jul 1, 2024 14:55:26 GMT -5
A CASCADA mention always brings me joy. Their first album in over 10 years comes out later this year ;)
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Post by korbel16 on Jul 1, 2024 15:07:29 GMT -5
chappell roan has great replay value, i see why her discography has been climbing on the charts
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Jul 1, 2024 15:22:07 GMT -5
I think there’s a good argument that Taylor pushed popular music sound to be more focused on personal lyrics and storytelling. Ed Sheeran earlier, and Noah Kahan, Zach Bryan, Olivia Rodrigo, Sabrina Carpenter more recently are examples, plus arguably Billie Eilish. None of this is in a vacuum and Taylor is obviously also heavily influenced by others including Lana Del Rey and older artists like Stevie Nicks, but Taylor pushed it into a new popularity. And her synthpop collabs with Max Martin using an 80s sound highly successfully arguably pushed Max Martin to use this sound heavily in future collabs like with The Weeknd. I'd argue popular female artists who write have always written personal lyrics, including in a storytelling sense. Look at singles by Madonna ("Live to Tell" and "Oh Father" come to mind, but others too), Mariah ("One Sweet Day," "My All," "The Roof," “Obsessed,” etc), Pink ("Don't Let Me Get Me," "Family Portrait," etc), Britney "(Everytime" in particular), Kelly Clarkson ("Because of You," "Sober, etc), and so on. Even around the time Swift hit big, you had someone like Amy Winehouse having a hit with the very personal "Rehab." Adele was of course writing personal, storytelling songs in the late 2000s and early 2010s. I think what Swift did more than any of them is encourage people to relate them to the specific famous people in her life, but over the years plenty of successful women have been writing personal songs and releasing them as singles so I don't see where that's something specific to Swift. Joni Mitchell, Carly Simon and Carole King are sipping their tea reading this thread... |
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Post by avamaxstan on Jul 1, 2024 15:35:39 GMT -5
The success and consumption of the music is the impact. And Taylor is the most consumed artist of the past two decades. If you need a more direct visual for how impactful and remembered their songs are, compare the streaming numbers for Gaga's back catalogue to Taylor's. Little monsters have taken to a historical rewrite where Lady Gaga birthed electropop into the mainstream, when several big artists were already doing electropop in the late 2000s before her rise. And unlike Britney, Beyonce, Taylor or Billie, we didn't see a crop of "Gaga clones" emerge on the pop scene that were directly inspired by her. Her impact was mainly seen in other pop stars starting to also wear weird outfits for a couple of years. Did Taylor "birth" any genres or create any "clones" that emerged on the scene, or was her music radically all that different from what had already been done before? We're currently witnessing the rise of an entire generation of young female confessional singer-songwriters who cite Taylor as a major influence or display traits of her blueprint. Off the top of my head: Olivia Rodrigo, Sabrina Carpenter, Chappell Roan, Gracie Abrams, Tate Mcrae, Phoebe Bridgers, Gayle, Maisie Peters... plus many many more less notable names. |
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Post by jenglisbe on Jul 1, 2024 18:00:20 GMT -5
I'd argue popular female artists who write have always written personal lyrics, including in a storytelling sense. Look at singles by Madonna ("Live to Tell" and "Oh Father" come to mind, but others too), Mariah ("One Sweet Day," "My All," "The Roof," “Obsessed,” etc), Pink ("Don't Let Me Get Me," "Family Portrait," etc), Britney "(Everytime" in particular), Kelly Clarkson ("Because of You," "Sober, etc), and so on. Even around the time Swift hit big, you had someone like Amy Winehouse having a hit with the very personal "Rehab." Adele was of course writing personal, storytelling songs in the late 2000s and early 2010s. I think what Swift did more than any of them is encourage people to relate them to the specific famous people in her life, but over the years plenty of successful women have been writing personal songs and releasing them as singles so I don't see where that's something specific to Swift. Joni Mitchell, Carly Simon and Carole King are sipping their tea reading this thread... Yeah, and we could go back even further than them, of course, but I was talking about modern 'pop' women since the discussion was related to someone saying Swift brought that back now. My point was to say it never left. |
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