HITS 8/9: Taylor Swift 140k, Kanye/Ty 82k

[theycallmedualian]

Kanye surprised dropped vulture ii on a saturday, Taylor already dropping variants this morning. 

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NEW RELEASES: VULTURES SWOOPS IN

Ye & Ty Dolla $ign's surprise, Saturday drop of VULTURES 2 will be the biggest debut this week. Jack White's No Name is expected to be next in line with initial physical distribution via Third Man.



Stay tuned for streaming info after VULTURES 2's first complete day of activity. Sales info for White's new rock set will be available on Tuesday.



Earlier this year, Ye & Ty Dolla's VULTURES logged two consecutive weeks at #1, posting 148k in its opening week. The sequel has 16 tracks and contains features from Future, Lil Wayne, Lil Baby, Playboi Carti, Leon Bridges, Lil Durk and many more.



Now if you'll excuse, we're going back to watching competitive badminton.

[Choco]

I'm guessing around 125k for Vultures. Taylor can easily outdo that with a few voice memos.

[ificanthaveyou]

This is one of the few times I’ll buy a second copy of an album just to spite Kanye

[theycallmedualian]

Aug 4, 2024 18:01:49 GMT -5 Choco said:

I'm guessing around 125k for Vultures. Taylor can easily outdo that with a few voice memos.

thats an overestimation for both. 

kanye is probably doing 75-85k, how much TS can still sell, i cant tell. but most likely not above 100k.

[musiclife]

I bought an additional copy. I figured I'd throw in a few dollars to pick up a version I don't have.

[clsvltn]

I'm not buying either, but I hope Taylor manages to win this over the rushed out random crap Kanye is putting out

[Taylor.]

Doesn’t seem like she even needed to move much if at all, but we know she loves her safety net.

[Ling-Ling]

Kanye is obviously a shit human being. But as an artist he's been releasing subpar material for over a decade, I'm glad the public finally caught up to that.

[fridayteenage]

I guess she wanted a resounding victory
And another 100k week

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

^Yeah. No way she was going to allow the possibility of Ye even having the chance of beating her this week.

[musiclife]

The greatest chart victory... EVER.

[theycallmedualian]

I was correct that Kanye would do around 75k but very off that TS could still move past 100k at a moments notice at this point.. was signed CDs offered? Cus it’d be pretty crazy with just the voice memos and normal variants.

I’ll reaffirm my predictions from months ago: the perfect time to drop the anthropology Physicals (if there is such thing), it would be in November after Drake’s new album came and went. she could very easily rack up another 10 weeks. (Assuming no new big releases, of course)

[ificanthaveyou]

Aug 6, 2024 18:01:38 GMT -5 theycallmedualian said:

I was correct that Kanye would do around 75k but very off that TS could still move past 100k at a moments notice at this point.. was signed CDs offered? Cus it’d be pretty crazy with just the voice memos and normal variants.

I’ll reaffirm my predictions from months ago: the perfect time to drop the anthropology Physicals (if there is such thing), it would be in November after Drake’s new album came and went. she could very easily rack up another 10 weeks. (Assuming no new big releases, of course)

Agreed now that Rep (TV) is looking more likely for a Fall 2025 release it may end up being the perfect opportunity for her to release physicals and possibly garner another 300k+ week for TTPD.

My ideal situation:
Anthology: November 2024 with presale announcement in September
Eras Tour Live Album: surprise release December 2024 on her birthday
Taylor Swift (TV): March 2025 with announcement on New Years at midnight
Reputation (TV): October 2025
TS12: April 2026

[sedrickwilhelm]

Alright. Taylor Swift's power is ludicrously impressive, so I will be very disappointed if she does not use it to full effect in order to aid in this election. She needs to be putting voter registration on full force now and then strike with the full endorsement and push to vote right at a critical time before the election. I do not believe there has ever been a situation in our history where a single musician could have as big of an effect on an election than Taylor Swift in 2024's presidential election. It is vital that she makes sure the people she will tell to vote actually get registered to do so.

[andrebra]

Chappell is so close to striking #1 on one of these next few weeks with no major releases. Drop the Good Luck, Babe! video and add it as a deluxe to the album girl!

[theycallmedualian]

Aug 6, 2024 20:54:45 GMT -5 ificanthaveyou said:

Aug 6, 2024 18:01:38 GMT -5 theycallmedualian said:

I was correct that Kanye would do around 75k but very off that TS could still move past 100k at a moments notice at this point.. was signed CDs offered? Cus it’d be pretty crazy with just the voice memos and normal variants.

I’ll reaffirm my predictions from months ago: the perfect time to drop the anthropology Physicals (if there is such thing), it would be in November after Drake’s new album came and went. she could very easily rack up another 10 weeks. (Assuming no new big releases, of course)

Agreed now that Rep (TV) is looking more likely for a Fall 2025 release it may end up being the perfect opportunity for her to release physicals and possibly garner another 300k+ week for TTPD.

My ideal situation:
Anthology: November 2024 with presale announcement in September
Eras Tour Live Album: surprise release December 2024 on her birthday
Taylor Swift (TV): March 2025 with announcement on New Years at midnight
Reputation (TV): October 2025
TS12: April 2026

the issue for me is that dropping the last two TVs after the tour about all her previous projects is finishes up just felt kinda weird..  maybe she will go on round 2 of the tour next year, who knows, maybe she'd be ok with those 2 only being rather frontloaded & short lived too, idk. 

[theycallmedualian]

Aug 6, 2024 22:02:48 GMT -5 sedrickwilhelm said:

Alright. Taylor Swift's power is ludicrously impressive, so I will be very disappointed if she does not use it to full effect in order to aid in this election. She needs to be putting voter registration on full force now and then strike with the full endorsement and push to vote right at a critical time before the election. I do not believe there has ever been a situation in our history where a single musician could have as big of an effect on an election than Taylor Swift in 2024's presidential election. It is vital that she makes sure the people she will tell to vote actually get registered to do so.

she has already urged people to register to vote already, and an endorsement would be too early rn. gotta at least wait till October to have any real effects.



andrebra

Chappell is so close to striking #1 on one of these next few weeks with no major releases. Drop the Good Luck, Babe! video and add it as a deluxe to the album girl!

post baloney and sabrina are dropping soon, they'll probably be around for a bit, and then there will the annual drizzy album. probably aint gonna have a real shot until october. 

[bornfearless2000]

I thought its gonna be a close race 😅😅
I underestimated Taylor and Overestimated Kanye.
Like a post above mentioned, a satisfying victory

[musiclife]

Aug 6, 2024 20:54:45 GMT -5 ificanthaveyou said:

Aug 6, 2024 18:01:38 GMT -5 theycallmedualian said:

I was correct that Kanye would do around 75k but very off that TS could still move past 100k at a moments notice at this point.. was signed CDs offered? Cus it’d be pretty crazy with just the voice memos and normal variants.

I’ll reaffirm my predictions from months ago: the perfect time to drop the anthropology Physicals (if there is such thing), it would be in November after Drake’s new album came and went. she could very easily rack up another 10 weeks. (Assuming no new big releases, of course)

Agreed now that Rep (TV) is looking more likely for a Fall 2025 release it may end up being the perfect opportunity for her to release physicals and possibly garner another 300k+ week for TTPD.

My ideal situation:
Anthology: November 2024 with presale announcement in September
Eras Tour Live Album: surprise release December 2024 on her birthday
Taylor Swift (TV): March 2025 with announcement on New Years at midnight
Reputation (TV): October 2025
TS12: April 2026

You really think Fall 2025? That would be 2 years since 1989 TV. Idk I see it happening this fall latest Spring.. and as much as I would love an Anthology release we aren't getting it. 💔💔💔

[shayonce]

1 day sale for digital albums and she did extra 50k. her fans are really buying it like that. good for her.

[Enigma.]

Aug 6, 2024 22:02:48 GMT -5 sedrickwilhelm said:

Alright. Taylor Swift's power is ludicrously impressive, so I will be very disappointed if she does not use it to full effect in order to aid in this election. She needs to be putting voter registration on full force now and then strike with the full endorsement and push to vote right at a critical time before the election. I do not believe there has ever been a situation in our history where a single musician could have as big of an effect on an election than Taylor Swift in 2024's presidential election. It is vital that she makes sure the people she will tell to vote actually get registered to do so.

You do realize we are talking about a fanbase buying the album over and over again. It has nothing to do with the election. It is streaming less than Morgan Wallen's latest at this point.

Also, no one I know is interested in Kanye any more. He might have small fanbase left but not any general goodwill.

[mms82]

Aug 7, 2024 4:45:34 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Aug 6, 2024 22:02:48 GMT -5 sedrickwilhelm said:

Alright. Taylor Swift's power is ludicrously impressive, so I will be very disappointed if she does not use it to full effect in order to aid in this election. She needs to be putting voter registration on full force now and then strike with the full endorsement and push to vote right at a critical time before the election. I do not believe there has ever been a situation in our history where a single musician could have as big of an effect on an election than Taylor Swift in 2024's presidential election. It is vital that she makes sure the people she will tell to vote actually get registered to do so.

You do realize we are talking about a fanbase buying the album over and over again. It has nothing to do with the election. It is streaming less than Morgan Wallen's latest at this point.

Also, no one I know is interested in Kanye any more. He might have small fanbase left but not any general goodwill.

Also the average person who’d “change” their vote based on Swift is a reliable Democrat vote already, and is already turning out. She’d just alienate her less die hard fans (Lover flopped (by her standards) as part of this, I’d argue).

If you care about electoral turnout and that it’s “vital” about getting people to register to vote, Morgan Wallen will probably have the biggest chance of getting new people to register, vote, and get involved in the political process. It just likely won’t be for the candidate you likely support, but it’s the musical effect with the most people registering to vote if that’s what you truly care about.

[Enigma.]

Indeed, "potential republicans turning to democrats" kind of stuff would make a difference.

Trump most likely has only the usual Jason Aldeans and Kid Rocks supporting him anyway - it's not news that most of the Hollywood and L.A. support democrats.

[pnobelysk]

I fully beleive Taylor wouldn’t get anyone to change their vote but think she could convince many to vote in the first place

[Baby Yoda Hot100Fan]

Non-music related, Tim Waltz signed a Taylor Swift Bill after failing to get her concert ticket, and Swifties can't keep cool

[imbuemyblue]

Are we really arguing that Morgan Wallen has a more devoted fanbase than Taylor re: registering to vote? He is very popular, but I think most can agree that the devotion (nay, psychosis) her fans demonstrate far outstrip any other fanbase invested in a present day musician. She has *many* new young female fans who will be of age to vote for the first time in their lives.

With celebrities it's always been about turnout vs. persuasion. Oprah had a very discernible impact on getting people to vote for Obama, but these were people who were fairly unlikely to ever consider voting for McCain in the first place. Republicans of recent memory have struggled to find any celebrity surrogate who is actually useful.

Her endorsement of congressional democrats nearly a year prior to the release of her 'Lover' album tanking the album?... if that happened it's reason #47 on a long list of why she was at that point on a downward spiral.

[ificanthaveyou]

Aug 7, 2024 12:27:15 GMT -5 imbuemyblue said:

Are we really arguing that Morgan Wallen has a more devoted fanbase than Taylor re: registering to vote? He is very popular, but I think most can agree that the devotion (nay, psychosis) her fans demonstrate far outstrip any other fanbase invested in a present day musician. She has *many* new young female fans who will be of age to vote for the first time in their lives.

With celebrities it's always been about turnout vs. persuasion. Oprah had a very discernible impact on getting people to vote for Obama, but these were people who were fairly unlikely to ever consider voting for McCain in the first place. Republicans of recent memory have struggled to find any celebrity surrogate who is actually useful.

Her endorsement of congressional democrats nearly a year prior to the release of her 'Lover' album tanking the album?... if that happened it's reason #47 on a long list of why she was at that point on a downward spiral.

lol calling Lover a downward spiral is laughable! The album that opened up with 867k and had two back to back Hot 100 #2s… if anything she had a hate train going due to her massive popularity during 1989 and the Kimye drama that followed.

[theycallmedualian]

Aug 7, 2024 4:45:34 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

Aug 6, 2024 22:02:48 GMT -5 sedrickwilhelm said:

Alright. Taylor Swift's power is ludicrously impressive, so I will be very disappointed if she does not use it to full effect in order to aid in this election. She needs to be putting voter registration on full force now and then strike with the full endorsement and push to vote right at a critical time before the election. I do not believe there has ever been a situation in our history where a single musician could have as big of an effect on an election than Taylor Swift in 2024's presidential election. It is vital that she makes sure the people she will tell to vote actually get registered to do so.

You do realize we are talking about a fanbase buying the album over and over again. It has nothing to do with the election. It is streaming less than Morgan Wallen's latest at this point.

Also, no one I know is interested in Kanye any more. He might have small fanbase left but not any general goodwill.

i can’t even contain my laughter from this one lol, can you imagine being so dimwitted that you actually typed this out thinking it’s a legit, cogent argument?

Firstly - TS’s back catalogue alone TTPD has more streams than Morgan’s.

Secondly - how does one correlate a star’s popularity and influence base on… their album streaming longevity? This take is so dumb that I’m literally rolling on the floor right now xd

Thirdly - TTPD’s opening week SEA was almost 1 billion streams in the US. That’s almost 2x of OTTAT despite having less tracks, and the US leg of the Eras tour was attended by ~3.5M people. so clearly, TS’s stardom and outreach is significantly bigger than Morgan’s or anyone else’s. Id love to hear your brilliant thoughts on why streaming longevity is a metric which disproves this though? Please do respond on this one, lol.

And and lastly - like everyone else said, this is about rallying those who might be lean R to sit out or vote D, and fire up the not-so excited Dems to the booths. TS’s home state PA is literally the most important battleground state this cycle, and both trump and Biden only won it with less than 100k votes. So if she was to endorse and rally for a registration drive, that’d be huge for Kamala’s campaign. But I guess I shouldn’t expect someone who thought album longevity is what actually matters to understand any of this.. lmao

I’ve explicitly stopped frequenting the below-average intelligence pop communities like twitter or other forums since Pulse is miles better in terms of the qualities of the discourse and intellectual honesty of the users, and yet I think I’ve ran into the dumbest comment I’ve ever seen here, LOL.

[imbuemyblue]

Aug 7, 2024 13:43:56 GMT -5 ificanthaveyou said:

lol calling Lover a downward spiral is laughable! The album that opened up with 867k and had two back to back Hot 100 #2s… if anything she had a hate train going due to her massive popularity during 1989 and the Kimye drama that followed.

You know what I meant; 'Downward trajectory' is more appropriate than spiral, sure. But for Taylor, she is her only competition. Obviously, anyone other than Adele at that point would have sold their soul for 850K+, but following 'Reputation' with that amount it *seemed* clear at the time that she would continue the normal path of every pop star with 'Lover' being the beginning of diminishing returns. Of course, she went on to prove she was taking anything but the normal path.

[fridayteenage]

Vienna concerts cancelled due to terrorist threat
Fear of Something in that vein is likely a great motivator for Taylor not to be esp outspoken politically