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Post by ObhiDonna on Sept 10, 2024 14:24:25 GMT -5
Was very ridiculed for questioning the numbers two weeks ago, it didn’t add up. Callout Numbers are in. …I’ve got a lot of questions. Many, should have a lot of questions. Care to post these callout numbers? Ok so I got this from Gagadaily, so not 100% sure on the authenticity MMI National Callouts Issue: September 9th, 2024 1. Beautiful Things (#1 8x) 2. Too Sweet 3. MILLION DOLLAR BABY (#1 2x) 4 (+1) A Bar Song (Tipsy) 5 (+1) Espresso 6 (-2) Not Like Us (#1 2x) 7. Please Please Please 8. I Had Some Help 9 (+1) Belong Together 10 (+5) Cowgirls 40 (+5) Die With a Smile 41 (+3) Who
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Post by No Brake$ on Sept 10, 2024 14:26:24 GMT -5
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Post by No Brake$ on Sept 10, 2024 14:27:25 GMT -5
Care to post these callout numbers? Ok so I got this from Gagadaily, so not 100% sure on the authenticity MMI National Callouts Issue: September 9th, 2024 1. Beautiful Things (#1 8x) 2. Too Sweet 3. MILLION DOLLAR BABY (#1 2x) 4 (+1) A Bar Song (Tipsy) 5 (+1) Espresso 6 (-2) Not Like Us (#1 2x) 7. Please Please Please 8. I Had Some Help 9 (+1) Belong Together 10 (+5) Cowgirls 40 (+5) Die With a Smile 41 (+3) Who That’s a disaster for the “streaming” aka algorithm numbers. Bought hits,people… To be clear I’m not knocking Gaga or Mars, I’m knocking that streaming is an abused form of payola, much worse than it has ever been on radio. It should not be able to be counted towards the Hot 100. Following trends, the early numbers out of the gate lead me to believe that this is one of the biggest most expensive payola frauds of all time. If this tanks in two weeks, and I truly believe it will directly after Joker 2 is out…maybe sooner. The proof will be there. It’s a thing.
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Post by ObhiDonna on Sept 10, 2024 14:28:18 GMT -5
Can you STFU please? At this point you are just trolling
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Post by wjr15 on Sept 10, 2024 14:31:27 GMT -5
What are you talking about? Look at the Spotify numbers. This has been extremely stable on streaming. As for radio, this is slowing down but that’s because there is a major traffic jam to enter the Top 10. Besides, this wouldn’t be the first, second, or even tenth time this year where radio and streaming are on different pages when it comes to a hit song.
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Post by dovahduck on Sept 10, 2024 14:35:08 GMT -5
I don't see how the callouts are honestly relevant at this point as they have shown time and time to not have a significant relation with actual streaming numbers. Look at all the radio-driven hits, or songs like "Starboy" and "I Feel It Coming" by the Weeknd, which had (and continue to have) great streaming numbers but rather poor or mediocre callouts. Even then, callout scores can easily change throughout the week depending on who is surveyed, look at two other Weeknd songs for example, "One Right Now" and "In Your Eyes", which both had mediocre call out scores up until the end of their radio runs (and even then radio choose to drop them right after they received those scores). As someone who is a student leader in a prominent US college, I can tell you that basically everyone I know who has heard this song, absolutely loves it and know it word for word despite the fact that it came out just a couple of weeks ago. Bro saying Mars and Gaga are using payola has gotta be trolling at this point.
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Post by No Brake$ on Sept 10, 2024 14:36:15 GMT -5
Can you STFU please? At this point you are just trolling You are denying the truth. I’m not name calling. As someone who is a fan of the charts, does this not upset you? I mean this is wild stuff. Why deny it?
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Post by No Brake$ on Sept 10, 2024 14:38:14 GMT -5
What are you talking about? Look at the Spotify numbers. This has been extremely stable on streaming. As for radio, this is slowing down but that’s because there is a major traffic jam to enter the Top 10. Besides, this wouldn’t be the first, second, or even tenth time this year where radio and streaming are on different pages when it comes to a hit song. Read the article. It’s from Forbes. It’s literally about Spotify allowing payola. The radio numbers are stalling because people don’t want to hear it. Streaming numbers are based off $$$$
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Post by shakemaki on Sept 10, 2024 14:42:59 GMT -5
lol, the radio performance so far is good. There was no Gaga song in 2024 that CHR would send zooming to #1. It would always be a climb to top 10 and especially top 5. It’s pointless even really talking about CHR performance until it gets near top ten, since that range seems nearly locked and it’s only around #10 where Gaga keeps being unable to get further in the past decade. We will see what happens when it gets near there.
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Post by wjr15 on Sept 10, 2024 14:42:59 GMT -5
What are you talking about? Look at the Spotify numbers. This has been extremely stable on streaming. As for radio, this is slowing down but that’s because there is a major traffic jam to enter the Top 10. Besides, this wouldn’t be the first, second, or even tenth time this year where radio and streaming are on different pages when it comes to a hit song. Read the article. It’s from Forbes. It’s literally about Spotify allowing payola. The radio numbers are stalling because people don’t want to hear it. Streaming numbers are based off $$$$ I read the article and nowhere does it mention Lady Gaga, Bruno Mars, or “Die With A Smile”. Also, the article is from June, aka 2 months before this song was released.
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Post by No Brake$ on Sept 10, 2024 14:46:43 GMT -5
Good lord…you aren’t getting it.
This is happening across the board: Coldplay, KP, this is not an attack on Gaga and Mars.
To be very blunt, never on charts do songs simultaneously get added at Hot AC, CHR Pop, and AC and then on a Monday two weeks later simultaneously hit a wall and start dropping spins at the same times. It’s VERY uncommon, almost literally never happens they go for adds like that. This is bonafide payola.
It’s callout would be Top 10 right now, easy, if people wanted to hear it.
I mean what would be the explanation of barely being Top 40 callout if millions are streaming it. It doesn’t make sense, like not even close.
The whole thing is a sham. Love Chappell Roan…but right now, payola #1 coming right up with GLB after a well earned run to Top 5.
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Post by Enigma. on Sept 10, 2024 14:50:43 GMT -5
Somehow you are ONLY here in this particular thread spreading your "streaming payola" agenda.
On a positive note, the less airplay this song gets the more people seek it out on streaming platforms!!
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Post by No Brake$ on Sept 10, 2024 14:54:46 GMT -5
Somehow you are ONLY here in this particular thread spreading your "streaming payola" agenda. On a positive note, the less airplay this song gets the more people seek it out on streaming platforms!! Agenda…come on. Enjoy the run while it lasts. I just can’t understand how people aren’t seeing this. It really is arguably the highest payola scheme we’ve probably ever seen.
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Post by #LisaRinna on Sept 10, 2024 14:58:14 GMT -5
So it was #45 last week and it's increasing the more people get familiar with it? How is that a negative thing for a song that's been out for 25 days? No Brake$I would understand your point had the song been out for 3 months, but you are overreacting.
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Post by Mayman on Sept 10, 2024 15:02:10 GMT -5
Please can make the mods make this stop.
It's funny because you are comparing a Gaga/Bruno song that is one of the biggest streaming hits of the year to a Katy Perry song that spent one day on the US Spotify charts. If this was Spotify payola, then that still wouldn't it explain it being #1 on the other US platforms. Nobody how many times you try to force this down our throats doesn't mean people actually believe you.
Before it was radio payola with Katy, a song that probably has next to zero spins now. Now a song that is slowly rising on radio (which it shouldn't because it's among the biggest songs on any streaming platform) and has great streaming is also payola. This is all bait and we should just stop responding.
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Post by arturo52311 on Sept 10, 2024 15:07:06 GMT -5
Good lord…you aren’t getting it. This is happening across the board: Coldplay, KP, this is not an attack on Gaga and Mars. To be very blunt, never on charts do songs simultaneously get added at Hot AC, CHR Pop, and AC and then on a Monday two weeks later simultaneously hit a wall and start dropping spins at the same times. It’s VERY uncommon, almost literally never happens they go for adds like that. This is bonafide payola. It’s callout would be Top 10 right now, easy, if people wanted to hear it. I mean what would be the explanation of barely being Top 40 callout if millions are streaming it. It doesn’t make sense, like not even close. The whole thing is a sham. Love Chappell Roan…but right now, payola #1 coming right up with GLB after a well earned run to Top 5. You're just an idiot. How are flop Katy Perry and Coldplay songs that no one streamed compared to a song that, according to YOU and only YOU, is being payoled so much that it's smashing across platforms on Spotify, Apple Music, Amazon, AND YouTube. According to the Billboard Global 200, Die With A Smile pulled in 105 million Global streams in its 3rd week from all global platforms. It's #1 for a 2nd week in a row. The Katy and Coldplay singles charted at #65 and #57 respectively on the Global 200. Whatever payola they had, according to you, clearly didn't do enough if it can be manipulated enough to the extent you baselessly claim this song. Even an obviously payola'd song on Spotify like Who cannot take off on Apple Music MUCH LESS be #1. You're just an old man yelling at the sky at this point. Pathetic.
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Post by No Brake$ on Sept 10, 2024 15:07:27 GMT -5
Please can make the mods make this stop. It's funny because you are comparing a Gaga/Bruno song that is one of the biggest streaming hits of the year to a Katy Perry song that spent one day on the US Spotify charts. If this was Spotify payola, then that still wouldn't it explain it being #1 on the other US platforms. Nobody how many times you try to force this down our throats doesn't mean people actually believe you. I’ll stop I promise. This again isn’t made up. People are upset like this is a genuine hit and it’s not. It is a paid hit. Algorithms spinning in streaming. The 1,000 spin drop in comparison to last week. The decrease (heavily) on streams. The callout lower than Tommie Richman follow up (yikes) It was paid heavily to be played for first two weeks on radio at same time paid on streaming and now the cash flow is resting. It’s literally a paid advertisement. Going to happen more and more. Be prepared. If “Fortnight”’s run wasn’t enough to prove people are just buying their #1’s not sure what to tell yall. Sorry to disappoint, but please quit calling payola an agenda or crazy talk, every ounce of it is bleeding with the numbers we are seeing. No name calling here, but hilarious with all the proof, articles prevalent everywhere, that the people saying payola or called the “idiots”. The real ones know the truth. I’ll stay out of this thread. Just remember, you get what you pay for.
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Post by ObhiDonna on Sept 10, 2024 15:12:51 GMT -5
Yes and the earth is also flat isn’t it No Brake?
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Sept 10, 2024 15:13:57 GMT -5
No Brake$, if they "bought" the #1, wouldn't this song...idk..debut at #1🤔? There's no conspiracy weeks later, and the numbers have increased and stabilized, even with an album bomb, keeping it in the Top 10. No need to keep reiterating your thoughts on the trajectory of this!
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Post by No Brake$ on Sept 10, 2024 15:22:33 GMT -5
No Brake$, if they "bought" the #1, wouldn't this song...idk..debut at #1🤔? There's no conspiracy weeks later, and the numbers have increased and stabilized, even with an album bomb, keeping it in the Top 10. No need to keep reiterating your thoughts on the trajectory of this! Streams are 25% down. Bullet is 50% down. I’m not sure what to tell you. This is not really how songs start doing after two weeks if it’s a real hit, at least not what I’ve seen in 20 years. However I’m out of here. I said what I said.
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Post by arturo52311 on Sept 10, 2024 15:24:59 GMT -5
No Brake$, if they "bought" the #1, wouldn't this song...idk..debut at #1🤔? There's no conspiracy weeks later, and the numbers have increased and stabilized, even with an album bomb, keeping it in the Top 10. No need to keep reiterating your thoughts on the trajectory of this! Streams are 25% down. Spins are 50% down. I’m not sure what tot tell you. However I’m out of here. I said what I said. Your numbers are wrong again. Globally it was up 9% in streams. Airplay was up 37% in the US. In the US it reached a new peak on Streaming Songs, #2. Have you posted any real information in this thread?
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Post by No Brake$ on Sept 10, 2024 15:26:37 GMT -5
Streams are 25% down. Spins are 50% down. I’m not sure what tot tell you. However I’m out of here. I said what I said. Your numbers are wrong again. Globally it was up 9% in streams. Airplay was up 37% in the US. In the US it reached a new peak on Streaming Songs, #2. Have you posted any real information in this thread? Look above, are you for real? Call me a liar? Please. Look at what’s posted for streams. It’s down. AirPlay? Come on. All about the bullet. Charts 101. Down 50%. Why people are panicking this morning. Also, listed above. (You understand bullets, right? Biggest indicator 90% of time) Denial. Again. I’m tired of exposing name callers. I’ll check in -in a few weeks after Apple, a real hit, passes this one. Have a good one.
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Post by arturo52311 on Sept 10, 2024 15:31:15 GMT -5
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Post by ObhiDonna on Sept 10, 2024 15:32:18 GMT -5
You do not get a pass derailing the thread with this nonsense, Juan Carlos tagging you for input.
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Post by wjr15 on Sept 10, 2024 15:32:30 GMT -5
At this point, just ignore that poster because this conversation isn’t going anywhere productive with them.
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Post by No Brake$ on Sept 10, 2024 15:32:32 GMT -5
You’re right. Massive hits ordinarily start running out of steam two weeks later because people love it.
I’m done. People who know how to follow charts see it too.
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Post by SPRΞΞ on Sept 10, 2024 15:33:41 GMT -5
If this was a crap song I could understand the meltdowns, but it’s genuinely good. I’m actually surprised it isn’t storming up radio with +400’s everyday. It’s clear to me they are in it for the marathon chart run.
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Post by No Brake$ on Sept 10, 2024 15:33:44 GMT -5
At this point, just ignore that poster because this conversation isn’t going anywhere productive with them. Stop asking me questions. Swear! Now I’m done. I need to run off this stress. Too nice out to debate this either way. Who cares. Be blessed.
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Post by No Brake$ on Sept 10, 2024 15:35:18 GMT -5
If this was a crap song I could understand the meltdowns, but it’s genuinely good. I’m actually surprised it isn’t storming up radio with +400’s everyday. It’s clear to me they are in it for the marathon chart run. Callout is showing differently. It should have an increase in bullet, not -800 compared to last week. Just my take.
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Post by arturo52311 on Sept 10, 2024 15:54:18 GMT -5
Great worldwide and US increase on today's update
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