Lady Gaga - "Disease"

[Ling-Ling]

Nov 10, 2024 4:09:40 GMT -5 holdmecloser255 said:

Because she's the one releasing content right now? And I literally just left a few comments about her movie, whose underperformance was widely discussed on various forums, as well as this song. I wasn't even discussing Gaga on this forum prior to this for several years. There is no "agenda" lol. 

Again, your post is clearly off-topic because you are bringing up my profile in a thread about the song. You are also resorting to personal insults, clearly violating the forum's rules, but it's not like the moderators actually care since Gaga fans seemingly get a free pass there. It's funny how you are commenting on my life while resorting to analyzing the comments of a random user.

There are five million other artists out there releasing content. But you're not talking about any of them now are you? Nope. You just wander into Gaga threads to talk about how awful her career, music and films are doing (even posted about what a failure she is and how bitter her fans are in Katy's thread). You have a clear bone to pick and now you're trying to go on the defense and act like a victim. Give me a break.

[holdmecloser255]

Nov 10, 2024 4:25:09 GMT -5 Ling-Ling said:

Nov 10, 2024 4:09:40 GMT -5 holdmecloser255 said:

Because she's the one releasing content right now? And I literally just left a few comments about her movie, whose underperformance was widely discussed on various forums, as well as this song. I wasn't even discussing Gaga on this forum prior to this for several years. There is no "agenda" lol. 

Again, your post is clearly off-topic because you are bringing up my profile in a thread about the song. You are also resorting to personal insults, clearly violating the forum's rules, but it's not like the moderators actually care since Gaga fans seemingly get a free pass there. It's funny how you are commenting on my life while resorting to analyzing the comments of a random user.

There are five million other artists out there releasing content. But you're not talking about any of them now are you? Nope. You just wander into Gaga threads to talk about how awful her career, music and films are doing (even posted about what a failure she is and how bitter her fans are in Katy's thread). You have a clear bone to pick and now you're trying to go on the defense and act like a victim. Give me a break.

She's the only major artist starting her new era right now, so I don't see why I can't discuss her music. I was also commenting in Tate McRae's thread recently. I was discussing other artists prior to this. I literally left just a few comments. The fact that you are obsessively reading my profile is hilarious. I'm not trying to "play the victim." I'm simply pointing out that you Gaga fans violating this forum's rules by 1) discussing other artists in the single thread; 2) personally attacking me. But it seems like this forum's rules do not apply to them. 


I will not waste my time responding to you.        

[Ling-Ling]

[Az Paynter]

Ling-Ling clocked the ever-living fuck out of you. Quit before staff puts you in the sin bin with beachboi.

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[#LisaRinna]

Nov 10, 2024 1:42:04 GMT -5 Az Paynter said:

It was the fact that when you look at his post history a great majority of the last 10-15 posts were him dragging Gaga/her songs' chart performances in some way. It's a pattern that absolutely contribute itself to trolling allegations. Like... you just about only go into a certain artist's threads to post in bad faith? Nope.

He ain't the only one.

[Coco Yu'Kneek- Saint]

These pop threads are interesting. It goes so far!

[#LisaRinna]

US Spotify run:
Day 1: #16 - 1,097,768 plays
Day 2: #27 - 731,207 plays (-366,561)
Day 3: #43 - 530,848 plays (-200,359)
Day 4: #61 - 561,419 plays (+30,571)
Day 5: #76 - 511,596 plays (-49,823)
Day 6: #53 - 596,231 plays (+84,635)
Day 7: #82 - 573,828 plays (-22,403)

Week 1 total: 4,602,897 plays

Day 8: #87 - 548,334 plays (-25,494)
Day 9: #77 - 466,751 plays (-81,583)
Day 10: #90 - 396,233 plays (-70,518)
Day 11: #101 - 431,972 plays (+35,739)
Day 12: #104 - 427,363 plays (-4,609)
Day 13: #156 - 365,401 plays (-61,962)
Day 14: #140 - 387,626 plays (+22,225)

Week 2 total: 3,023,680 plays (-1,579,217)

Day 15: #160 - 378,148 plays (-9,478)
Day 16: #188 - 336,422 plays (-41,726)

[Love Plastic Love]

It's something I used to do a lot when I was younger lol. Like, pretend I was just "objectively discussing" a song or artist's performance when I was really jumping up every morning to look at the numbers to find any sign of floppage and then continuing to post 15-20 posts in a row with "concern" about performance and flopping. Ultimately, it didn't make me happy and it didn't somehow make my pet artists somehow perform or look better. I find it kind of fascinating from a more removed "I'm old af" POV now. Like, what motivates fans of other artists to do it (and what motivated me?) and why, particularly, I almost never see it happening with male artists. Like, I don't see 30 pages of Harry Styles fans in Shawn Mendez's post objectively talking about what a flop he is. Or, even like, Ed Sheeran and his most recent under-performance, if people want to say Shawn isn't big enough.

Sorry mods-I know this is off-topic. I am just reflecting on a cycle I have seen play out for literally decades now lmao. I'm sure we have another forum to discuss this that is more relevant, if anyone is interested, since this goes way off from just discussing Gaga's new single.

I really wish this was streaming just a litttttle better. Not even a smash, but if they could keep it above 500K a day I think they would even take this top 15 maybe even top 10. But, with numbers like this, I think it might not even last the week :(

[ObhiDonna]

Apparently this dropped to #58 this week on the Hot 100?

[Enigma.]

It's not revealed yet but predicted to be thereabouts.

[Rose "Payola" Nylund]

It’s funny how much people want to get a response to them saying “flop” in 27 different ways and instead of fan tears, people are calling them out and they’re the ones upset now lmao.

Once again, we don’t care. But the comment about no other artists currently releasing music as if Katy didn’t just release a whole-ass album a month ago. I like her and all but why are you lying?

[southerninternal999]

Man, I just woke up and I'm seeing another trolling situation. These pop girl chats are crazy I tell ya!

[Love Plastic Love]

Nov 10, 2024 9:49:25 GMT -5 ObhiDonna said:

Apparently this dropped to #58 this week on the Hot 100?

That's actually great. I thought predictions had it collapsing far off the hot 100 at all, like not even coming close to remaining on the top 100.

[SPRΞΞ]

Nov 10, 2024 9:57:04 GMT -5 southerninternal999 said:

Man, I just woke up and I'm seeing another trolling situation. These pop girl chats are crazy I tell ya!

Just wait till Brenda Lee blocks Mariah from #1 all Xmas season this time.

[think pink.]

Nov 10, 2024 10:59:03 GMT -5 SPRΞΞ said:

Nov 10, 2024 9:57:04 GMT -5 southerninternal999 said:

Man, I just woke up and I'm seeing another trolling situation. These pop girl chats are crazy I tell ya!

Just wait till Brenda Lee blocks Mariah from #1 all Xmas season this time.

Sabrina’s releasing Christmas content as well this year. It’s gonna be one for the books!

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[crazylove]

Nov 10, 2024 10:48:03 GMT -5 Love Plastic Love said:

Nov 10, 2024 9:49:25 GMT -5 ObhiDonna said:

Apparently this dropped to #58 this week on the Hot 100?

That's actually great. I thought predictions had it collapsing far off the hot 100 at all, like not even coming close to remaining on the top 100.

What’s great about a #27 - #58 chart-run?

[Az Paynter]

As opposed to #27-OFF, you mean? Don't just read, comprehend.

[Ivy Leegue™]

Y'all are really trying to get this thread , huh?? Chill and focus on this song. It's getting exhausting to check on this thread.

Nov 10, 2024 1:42:04 GMT -5 Az Paynter said:

It was the fact that when you look at his post history a great majority of the last 10-15 posts were him dragging Gaga/her songs' chart performances in some way. It's a pattern that absolutely contribute itself to trolling allegations. Like... you just about only go into a certain artist's threads to post in bad faith? Nope.

Thank you. It seems that some people don't understand what trolling is. Some people are sneaky and go about it better than others or attempt to walk a very fine line, but yeah, we look at a poster's history in totality and this one was deemed by the majority of staff to be trolling.

I revisited some of my favorite YouTube reaction accounts (it had been a while) and Zach Campbell, as extra as always, KILLED me. Anthony Fantano put this song in the "worst" category when he did his weekly track roundup review and, he is clearly just missing the vision. Disease is currently my favorite Gaga single, but also, I loved Stupid Love.

Nov 10, 2024 2:34:24 GMT -5 holdmecloser255 said:

Nov 9, 2024 19:09:06 GMT -5 ObhiDonna said:

Sweetie, the 143 thread has a different URL, not this one.

The rules of this forum state that you cannon compare other releases. 

No Baiting or Trolling

- referencing artists or songs in another artist’s or song’s thread in a manner that does not contribute to discussion 

Apparently, these rules do not apply to Gaga fans since they can get away with insults and off-topic 143 trolling. But people get warning points for simply contributing to the discussion in a respectful and meaningful manner. Interesting.

They are desperately trying to silence anyone who states the obvious: this lead singe is a total commercial failure. Leaving the Hot 100 in two weeks after massive support from her label, including enormous playlisting, is just atrocious. It will likely not chart on the Hot 100 in a week from now.        
     

Cut it out. You (as well as the rest of the community, outside of staff) are not privy to warning levels. All reports are viewed and taken seriously.

[Enigma.]

This will most likely get even a THIRD week on Hot 100 and haters will deal

[Choco]

Calling this a flop 24/7 might be accurate but I fail to see how it creates any type of meaningful discussion let alone why it's needed. Even on the I'm His He's Mine or the I Luv it threads at some point we exhausted all meaningful flop discussions and moved on and those did way worse as leads from an established pop lady.

[#brayden]

I do genuinely wonder if beachboi and holdmecloser share an IP address sometimes.

I don't expect much from this but hoping it lingers on radio 'til the new year. Otherwise this thread is exhausting to read with the amount of negativity a few people inject into it every day. Everyone acknowledges that she's been in the game for 16 years but for whatever reason the expectations are always 2011 Born This Way high when it comes to the charts.

And if we do want to pretend it's 2011 for a minute, the people complaining now would still be complaining if this song debuted at #1 and fell to any lower position the following week. They would then complain that it wasn't #1 long enough to be a true hit and jump at every opportunity to undermine her and the song still. She can't win... but I guess that brings joy to some of your lives which says enough.

[Maximillian]

Lord I step away for two days….

I think Gaga needs to add DWAS to her album. It’s already got about 1.5b estimated streams from AM, Spotify and YT. Even if she collects half that because Bruno could also use it, it’s about 350k SEA (streaming equivalent album) sales. And growing. Daily. Plus whatever else she releases, plus opening week streams, plus physical sales and vinyl. So it should be a very good debut.

So the haters can cry when she nabs her #1 opening week and find new ways to claim it’s a commercial failure 🥰

[Enigma.]

It's possible that DWAS will appear on the streaming version of the album as a bonus track but I doubt they'll put it on the standard physical album - but then again even Joanne has "Angel Down - Work Tape" and ASIB two versions of I'll Never Love Again so...

[Maximillian]

Nov 10, 2024 13:52:27 GMT -5 Enigma. said:

It's possible that DWAS will appear on the streaming version of the album as a bonus track but I doubt they'll put it on the standard physical album - but then again even Joanne has "Angel Down - Work Tape" and ASIB two versions of I'll Never Love Again so...

Does it need to be in the physical for it to count towards the project, if it’s on the streaming version? We see artists release so many versions of cds now, but they typically all count towards the same end goal.

[Enigma.]

I don't think it does, but not an expert.

[Choco]

No. Look no further than the biggest selling album of the year. Half of it's tracklist hasn't been on any physical copy (yet). Bruno himself added the Cardi mix of Finesse to streaming to boost album SPS and I don't think it ever made it to the physical version.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

I guess I'm one of the few who feels Gaga has already established her legacy and has nothing left to prove commercially? I feel like she accomplished cementing her name as a powerhouse in the industry with the success of the whole A Star Is Born project, so I personally don't understand people saying she "needs another hit album" to solidify anything. Gaga's legacy isn't and never was about her numbers or even really just about her hits anyway, but cultivated off the sheer prowess of her all-encompassing talent as a musician, artist, and singer. I mean this woman entered the industry as a legend.

[shakemaki]

Nov 10, 2024 17:35:29 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

I guess I'm one of the few who feels Gaga has already established her legacy and has nothing left to prove commercially? I feel like she accomplished cementing her name as a powerhouse in the industry with the success of the whole A Star Is Born project, so I personally don't understand people saying she "needs another hit album" to solidify anything. Gaga's legacy isn't and never was about her numbers or even really just about her hits anyway, but cultivated off the sheer prowess of her all-encompassing talent as a musician, artist, and singer. I mean this woman entered the industry as a legend.

I disagree when it comes to her legacy as a pop star among younger gens (like compare Taylor and Gen Z to her for example), but that’s my opinion.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Nov 10, 2024 19:20:45 GMT -5 shakemaki said:

Nov 10, 2024 17:35:29 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

I guess I'm one of the few who feels Gaga has already established her legacy and has nothing left to prove commercially? I feel like she accomplished cementing her name as a powerhouse in the industry with the success of the whole A Star Is Born project, so I personally don't understand people saying she "needs another hit album" to solidify anything. Gaga's legacy isn't and never was about her numbers or even really just about her hits anyway, but cultivated off the sheer prowess of her all-encompassing talent as a musician, artist, and singer. I mean this woman entered the industry as a legend.

I disagree when it comes to her legacy as a pop star among younger gens (like compare Taylor and Gen Z to her for example), but that’s my opinion.

That's silly logic IMO. Elvis isn't popular amongst Gen Z and last I checked his legendary status is still very much cemented. Gaga came out in 08 and is still churning out hits today, 16 years later and her largest peaks (Fame Monster/Born This Way/A Star Is Born) are certainly already big enough to solidify her name in the halls of legacy, regardless of her popularity with the generations to follow (same as any other artist in those aforementioned halls). Taylor has had an unusually long popularity arch and is the exception, not the rule. Comparing her to Gaga feels disingenuous.