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Post by tico on Mar 1, 2005 13:22:46 GMT -5
It's on the front page of today's R&R. Though it'll still be a while until Stern leaves, what direction could they possibly go?
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Mar 1, 2005 15:00:14 GMT -5
Maybe in a more genuinely Alternative direction? Or maybe they'll get rid of all the Howard Stern wannabes like Booker?
We can only dream.
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Post by jimmy74747 on Mar 1, 2005 15:48:01 GMT -5
Country. NYC NEEDS a country station. Although I prefer that 102.7 be the station that switches to country, I can live K-Rockeing the one who changes.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2005 16:42:27 GMT -5
102.7 WNEW needs to change to something. What a terrible station. It's like a horrible version of KTU.
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Post by oscillations. on Mar 1, 2005 18:23:20 GMT -5
NEW YORK DOES NOT NEED COUNTRY. WHY ARE SO MANY PEOPLE PUSHING COUNTRY ON THIS BOARD?  I hope they become more "alternative" and less "active rock". |
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Post by allow that on Mar 1, 2005 20:28:30 GMT -5
NEW YORK DOES NOT NEED COUNTRY. WHY ARE SO MANY PEOPLE PUSHING COUNTRY ON THIS BOARD? Seriously. K-Rock is the only current-based Rock station in NYC now. Do they seriously think Country is more popular than Rock in NYC? Dream on. Me too. They need to become more like WHTG  And I 110% agree that WNEW needs to change, to ANYTHING. I really think AAA is what we need most. |
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Post by oscillations. on Mar 1, 2005 21:26:12 GMT -5
Seriously. K-Rock is the only current-based Rock station in NYC now. Do they seriously think Country is more popular than Rock in NYC? Dream on. Me too. They need to become more like WHTG And I 110% agree that WNEW needs to change, to ANYTHING. I really think AAA is what we need most. WNEW has been searching for a format for ages. They never quite get it. The only time people listened was when they played Xmas music LOL |
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Post by Slinky on Mar 1, 2005 22:52:35 GMT -5
Infinity won't do anything to K-Rock until they have the 102.7 situation under control. The last thing they need is TWO stations floundering in the bottom of the ratings searching for a format. NEW YORK DOES NOT NEED COUNTRY. I agree. It's New Jersey that needs Country. ;) |
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Post by oscillations. on Mar 1, 2005 22:59:16 GMT -5
Infinity won't do anything to K-Rock until they have the 102.7 situation under control. The last thing they need is TWO stations floundering in the bottom of the ratings searching for a format. I agree. It's New Jersey that needs Country. ;) NOOO that's where I live! >:(  When NJ gets a little bit country, that's when you know this whole new-age conservatism thing has gone too far. >_< |
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Mar 1, 2005 23:01:32 GMT -5
I could see 102.7 going to country, but NOT KROCK!!
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Post by allow that on Mar 1, 2005 23:05:51 GMT -5
I agree. It's New Jersey that needs Country. ;) Whoa, I know you're joking but if there's one thing that rubs Jersey boys and girls the wrong way, it's when out-of-staters try to tell them how things should be in their state! >:( |
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Post by tico on Mar 2, 2005 10:20:52 GMT -5
There was a rumor some time ago about New York getting another CHR station to go up against Z100. WNEW briefly went CHR before switching to Blink. Perhaps 'NEW or K-Rock could go CHR? What about WLTW? They don't have in-market competition.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Mar 2, 2005 12:47:04 GMT -5
I seriously hope that they do not completely change the format on WXRK. If they take a slightly different musical/programming direction, that's fine (unless they make it even more Active-leaning than it already is), but no total format changes. It's bad enough we lost WHFS and Y100, I'd really hate to see WXRK go, in spite of what I may think of the current state of the station.
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Post by Marv on Mar 4, 2005 0:34:33 GMT -5
Country is the most-listened to format in America, it's doing FAR better than CHR/Pop, and there are FAR more country stations with double-digit shares than any music format in all market sizes nationwide.
Country music sales also soared 12% last year; the industry as a whole was up barely over 1.5%.
It also wouldn't make sense to launch a CHR/Pop station in NYC; is Z-100's mid 4 share range (where they've been stuck for most of the past 15 years) worth going after?
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Post by allow that on Mar 4, 2005 0:45:29 GMT -5
Country is the most-listened to format in America, it's doing FAR better than CHR/Pop, and there are FAR more country stations with double-digit shares than any music format in all market sizes nationwide. LOL. With all due respect, I find it hilarious when someone steps in from a different part of the country and insists that NYC needs a Country station because it's "popular." It may be popular in the country overall, but Country is NOT popular in NYC. It would NOT do better than Pop in NYC. People are not interested in it in NYC. This is basic business people, analyze the market you want to bring a product to before you start pushing that product. NYC is nothing like Kentucky or Nevada or wherever it is you come from. It's its own niche market and Country is a flop there. Period. |
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Post by jimmy74747 on Mar 4, 2005 11:09:00 GMT -5
LOL. With all due respect, I find it hilarious when someone steps in from a different part of the country and insists that NYC needs a Country station because it's "popular." It may be popular in the country overall, but Country is NOT popular in NYC. It would NOT do better than Pop in NYC. People are not interested in it in NYC. This is basic business people, analyze the market you want to bring a product to before you start pushing that product. NYC is nothing like Kentucky or Nevada or wherever it is you come from. It's its own niche market and Country is a flop there. Period. Yes, but a country station will get far higher ratings than whatever 102.7 is pulling now. |
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Post by allow that on Mar 4, 2005 11:49:59 GMT -5
Yes, but a country station will get far higher ratings than whatever 102.7 is pulling now. While that may be true, there are a multitude of options that would not only pull higher ratings that 102.7, but higher ratings than a Country station would pull too. |
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Post by tico on Mar 4, 2005 11:56:47 GMT -5
As a non-New Yorker, I've never associated country music with New York City, even when WYNY was on 103.5 and when Garth Brooks held the free concert in Central Park. I even find country music in Chicago as out of place, but WUSN does pretty well there.
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Post by musicfan9383 on Mar 4, 2005 23:33:30 GMT -5
Whoa, I know you're joking but if there's one thing that rubs Jersey boys and girls the wrong way, it's when out-of-staters try to tell them how things should be in their state! >:( Damn right . Anyway putting a country station in either NYC or NJ is like me turning on lite fm tomorrow and hearing Green Day's American Idiot uncensored. It makes no sense. Nobody in this area would eveer listen to a country station really now. |
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Post by Marv on Mar 5, 2005 1:36:14 GMT -5
Why would a country station NOT do well in NYC, if the research is done to support launching one on a REAL signal?
WUSN has been doing very well in Chicago for years, as have country-formatted stations in most of America's largest cities.
The last time I checked, the highest rated radio station in ANY of America's 20 largest cities is a country station--WPOC in Baltimore.
If the research would support a country station in NYC, then why not, given the income levels and TONS of disposable income country listeners have, which is FAR gigher than your typical CHR/Pop or CHR/Rhythmic listener?
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Post by oscillations. on Mar 5, 2005 1:52:25 GMT -5
NYC is much different from the rest of the country.
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Post by EvanJ on Mar 5, 2005 7:58:03 GMT -5
The last time I checked, the highest rated radio station in ANY of America's 20 largest cities is a country station--WPOC in Baltimore. WPOC is doing well but is currently behind Urban WERQ in its own market and has a lower rating than the following other Top 20 market stations: WBEB Philadelphia (AC) WSB-AM Atlanta (News/Talk) WVEE Atlanta (Urban) WPRM Puerto Rico (Tropical) KQRS Minneapolis-St. Paul (Classic Rock) WCCO-AM Minneapolis-St. Paul (News/Talk) KMOX-AM St. Louis (News/Talk) KEZK St. Louis (AC) That puts WPOC's rating tenth among Top 20 market stations. WPOC's ratings have gone down. |
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Mar 6, 2005 18:18:09 GMT -5
At the K-Rock acoustic show I was hearing a rumor that it was changing to Urban AC. I was surprised that they were even thinking of changing the format.
It seems to have a lot more credibility than I initially expected.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Mar 6, 2005 18:36:22 GMT -5
Urban AC? Jeez, we already have two of them. I wouldn't even support turning 102.7 into one of those.
If WXRK's non-Howard programming is really struggling so much in the ratings, why not make some kind of attempt to get the station's name out there more? I'm hard pressed to remember EVER seeing a K-Rock ad on TV.
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Post by EvanJ on Mar 6, 2005 20:32:47 GMT -5
I wouldn't change to Urban AC either. Offhand I can't name any markets with three local Urban AC stations.
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Post by oscillations. on Mar 8, 2005 21:29:54 GMT -5
KROCK is the #1 rock station in the country.
The idea of closing it down is ludicrous. First of all, there would be no main rock station for NYC, which is obviously unacceptable. Also, Urban AC? What kind of joke is that?
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Post by Marv on Mar 13, 2005 2:04:58 GMT -5
Do NOT be surprised if WXRK changes formats after Stern departs; their ratings are terrible once he leaves the air, according to an Inifinity exec in last week's issue of R&R.
He's #1 overall in morning drive in NYC with a staggering 7.0 rating, but the station's ratings once he leaves are barely in the 2.0 range.
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Post by oscillations. on Mar 13, 2005 15:59:39 GMT -5
Do NOT be surprised if WXRK changes formats after Stern departs; their ratings are terrible once he leaves the air, according to an Inifinity exec in last week's issue of R&R. He's #1 overall in morning drive in NYC with a staggering 7.0 rating, but the station's ratings once he leaves are barely in the 2.0 range. But NYC can't not have an alt. station |
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Post by TheJakes on Mar 18, 2005 18:58:58 GMT -5
Given Infinity's "jacking" their stations, with the recent flip of KCBS in LA from Classic Rock, I expect then to be JACK'ed.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Mar 21, 2005 12:22:40 GMT -5
Given Infinity's "jacking" their stations, with the recent flip of KCBS in LA from Classic Rock, I expect then to be JACK'ed. I think it would be a good idea to "Jack" 102.7 In fact, judging from the descriptions, "Jack" doesn't really sound too far off from what WNEW used to be. |
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