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Post by Matt4319 on Oct 9, 2004 1:16:47 GMT -5
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Post by allow that on Oct 9, 2004 1:40:08 GMT -5
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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 9, 2004 12:32:01 GMT -5
All I have to say is this.
If Green Day choose to release this as a single from this record, it'll let their credibility skyrocket as an artist.
It's like the same thing with Incubus and begging them to release "Sick Sad Little World", a six minute plus track with an extended jam.
Of course "Jesus of Suburbia" would flop as an airplay single if released, being over nine minutes long, but it is, in my opinion, the single best song they've ever recorded, and in a long-term I think would only make Green Day a more respected, acclaimed band.
Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2004 12:33:03 GMT -5
I have a feeling the singles are going to be as follows:
1. American Idiot 2. Boulevard Of Broken Dreams 3. Holiday 4. Wake Me Up When September Ends
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Oct 9, 2004 13:07:55 GMT -5
Releasing "Jesus of Suburbia" would be interesting. The song is actually getting a considerable amount of airplay on WXRK and KROQ. Like SingingSparrow said, the song would be a huge credibility boost for Green Day. Plus, commercially speaking, I think they could get away with it because, after all, it's Green Day, plus the song actually has catchy parts despite being so long, and since stations are playing it already, why not?
Then again, this album still has a few sure-fire hits that have yet to be released (particularly "Holiday" and "Wake Me Up When September Ends"), so we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
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Post by Miguelín on Oct 9, 2004 13:25:02 GMT -5
"Jesus Of Suburbia" can be easily a clasic. It's a great song from the beginning to the end. But as everyone said this can't be realeased as a single because of its length.
This song and the rest of the album shows that Green Day is a Great band, and not a band of the moment. This album is like "Californication" for Red Hot Chili Peppers. Songs like "Jesus Of Suburbia", "Wake me Up when September ends" and "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" makes of Green Day one of the best bands ever.
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Post by 620 Soul Train on Oct 9, 2004 15:08:14 GMT -5
All I have to say is this. If Green Day choose to release this as a single from this record, it'll let their credibility skyrocket as an artist. It's like the same thing with Incubus and begging them to release "Sick Sad Little World", a six minute plus track with an extended jam. Of course "Jesus of Suburbia" would flop as an airplay single if released, being over nine minutes long, but it is, in my opinion, the single best song they've ever recorded, and in a long-term I think would only make Green Day a more respected, acclaimed band. Sincerely, Noah Eaton Now, I wanna buy the CD, with all this hype. As for the song, if it is released as a single there will most likely be a radio edit set out to promoters. Then again, it may just ruin the concept of the song. As a listener you'd be so hooked on the song, and this one has several hooks, you probably wouldn't even notice the time and length of the song.
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Post by Gold Soundz on Oct 9, 2004 15:31:39 GMT -5
I have a feeling the singles are going to be as follows: 1. American Idiot 2. Boulevard Of Broken Dreams 3. Holiday 4. Wake Me Up When September Ends I doubt it. I think they will get Jesus of Suburbia out and rightfully so. They might have to make an edit. As for the fourth single, I think it'll be Extraordinary Girl because it's very summery. I could see them releasing Watshername, too, but not Wake Me Up When September Ends because it's too similar to Macy's Day Parade and Good Ridance. I think Holiday would've made a far better single than Boulevard of Broken Dreams.
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Post by Matt4319 on Oct 9, 2004 15:42:29 GMT -5
I think Holiday would've made a far better single than Boulevard of Broken Dreams. Well, I'm sure part of the reason they chose "BOBD" as the next single was because it made the top 40 without any kind of push or promo at all.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2004 15:46:36 GMT -5
When I bought the album, there was actually a sticker on it that said "Featuring the hit singles American Idiot, Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, Holiday & Wake Me Up When September Ends" in that order.
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Post by Gold Soundz on Oct 9, 2004 16:45:37 GMT -5
When I bought the album, there was actually a sticker on it that said "Featuring the hit singles American Idiot, Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, Holiday & Wake Me Up When September Ends" in that order. Oh, haha. That's probably it then. That sucks . There are so many better songs on the album than Wake Me Up When September Ends.
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Post by thedualityofman on Oct 9, 2004 17:53:51 GMT -5
Now Green Day certainly aren't Tool, so its hard to say if they'll be able to get 9 minutes of radio time on a regular basis.
But if Jesus Of Suburbia is as good as people say it is, then it just might have a shot. It will definitely have a shot at the more old school alternative stations. But for a high Bizkit and Creed station, not so much of a shot.
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Post by singingsparrow on Oct 9, 2004 18:07:13 GMT -5
Here's my thoughts on the other future single selections:
* "Wake Me Up When September Ends" would be an excellent single not only for Alternative, but for Hot AC and Triple A. The latter I believe could pick it up on some stations if they play "Long View" and "When I Come Around" as popular recurrents.
It is a sad song, but very melodic with the acoustic melodies and glockenspiel blending with old-school electric guitar punches through the latter verses and chorus. And I respectfully disagree with the sounding-too-close to two other songs criticism.
* "Boulevard of Broken Dreams" would also work on Triple A well enough.
6 stations already picked this up.
* "Holiday" will probably be a single, though I think "WMUWSE" should be released before "Holiday" in order.
Usually I think ballads have a tendency to be most effective as third singles, and in that respect I think "Holiday" should be released fourth.
* "Extraordinary Girl" is radio-friendly enough, but I don't think it's the best single choice when you have both radio-friendly appeal and acclaim working together on the previous tracks mentioned. "Extraordinary Girl" is a more forgettable track to me on the record in comparison.
Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2004 18:08:42 GMT -5
I hope they don't release "Wake Me Up When September Ends" third. That will be the same mistake Blink-182 made. Bands should never release two slow songs in a row unless their name is Coldplay.
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Post by thedualityofman on Oct 9, 2004 18:14:46 GMT -5
Well, I'm sure Keane could pull it off as far as the Coldplay comment goes.
But yeah, no matter how much acclaim American Idiot has, two ballads would be a huge mistake. Hell, Blink 182 might not have gotten this much acclaim but it was still got a ton of good reviews. People were all over Blink 182's self titled album, and we know what happened there.
Considering that American Idiot isn't really a conventional album, I say they should release their singles unconventionally. I say Holiday should be 3rd, Jesus Of Suburbia should be 4th, and if there's still a demand for new Green Day on the radio, then Wake Me Up When September Ends should be 5th.
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Post by Miguelín on Oct 10, 2004 7:49:15 GMT -5
two ballads would be a huge mistake Totally agree with this
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Oct 10, 2004 9:28:50 GMT -5
as do I.
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Oct 10, 2004 16:08:01 GMT -5
When I bought the album, there was actually a sticker on it that said "Featuring the hit singles American Idiot, Boulevard Of Broken Dreams, Holiday & Wake Me Up When September Ends" in that order. Hmmm....my sticker had the same four songs, but with "Holiday" before "Boulevard." It didn't use the phrase "hit singles" either.
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Post by MoreAdventurous on Oct 10, 2004 19:03:28 GMT -5
I love this song....but only parts of it.
I don't like the 'I don't care' section, as well as the 'tales of another broken home' section, but I LOVE 'city of the damned' and 'dearly beloved'
oh, and it would flop as a single
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Post by SyrupBoy on Oct 12, 2004 12:02:26 GMT -5
oh, and it would flop as a single True, but just once would I like to see a major label act other than Tool flip the bird to everything that is standard in radio and release a 9 minute song as a single, unedited. That would be truly alternative.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Oct 24, 2004 17:13:23 GMT -5
Now Green Day certainly aren't Tool, so its hard to say if they'll be able to get 9 minutes of radio time on a regular basis. No radio station that I ever heard ever played the full 9:22 of "Lateralus." Or the full 8:25 of "Eulogy," either. The longest they've gotten away with is the 6:40-ish of "Schism." Tool singles and lengths: "Lateralus" 9:22, but DJs always cut out the first 1:17 or so and a huge chunk of the middle, where the intro returns, making the edit somewhere in the 5 minute range. I used to have the edit time figured out, but I forgot. "Eulogy" 8:25, but DJs like to cut out as much of the first 2 minutes as possible. "Schism" 6:42. DJs tend to shave off some of the intro, though. "Ænema" 6:38. I can't remember if it starts with breathing or the riff, but if it's breathing, DJs cut that out. "H." I think it's like 6:08 or something. But nobody really plays this one anymore. "Forty Six & 2" 6:02 "Parabola" 6:02, but DJs kill it off once the heavy riffs stop, which makes it approximately 5:30 "Stinkfist" 5:10 "Sober" about 5:00 "Prison Sex" just under 5:00 Since radio is playing "Jesus of Suburbia" already, I'd love to see Green Day try to get away with releasing it officially, but I'd totally understand if they don't. And I, too, would like to see "Holiday" and "Wake Me Up When September Ends" as the next singles. The middle of the album really isn't as impressive as the beginning. The end picks it up some, but it's not an amazing album from start to finish. It's amazing in ambition, though.
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Post by SyrupBoy on Oct 24, 2004 17:54:26 GMT -5
No radio station that I ever heard ever played the full 9:22 of "Lateralus." WBTZ (Burlington/Montreal) did, and while this particular song is no longer in rotation, they still play the full versions of every Tool song on their playlist. This is probably the only station I've ever heard who isn't afraid to play a 7 minute single. They do it regularly.
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Post by halo19 on Oct 24, 2004 21:03:06 GMT -5
Surprisingly, almost every radio station I've encountered has played "Parablola" in full, although a few cut like the last 10 or so seconds. In addition, KMYZ started playing "Lateralus" in full. I think you said that one's edit was 5:37. I remember you posting that once.
I generally hear "H." on the radio. Surprisingly, I've never heard "Eulogy", except whenever active rocker KATT had its "Totally Tool Tuesdays".
I've noticed several radio stations skipping the intro on "Schism", though.
I've heard DJs play "Ænima" with the breathing intro.
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Post by Matt4319 on Dec 12, 2004 16:38:04 GMT -5
This song is being mentioned alongside "BOBD", "Holiday", and "AI" in TV ads for American Idiot. I've been surprised at so many people seriously mentioning this as a possible single, but maybe it actually does have a shot.
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Post by thedualityofman on Dec 13, 2004 7:22:05 GMT -5
I know that my local station which is now active rock but was alternative when Lateralus was being promoted and during all the other Tool releases, played all of Tool's singles in full, including Lateralus and Eulogy.
They still play all of Fourty Six and Two, Aenima and occasionally Parabola. They play the hell out of the shorter Stinkfist though.
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Post by .Ellie. on Mar 6, 2005 16:46:14 GMT -5
True, but just once would I like to see a major label act other than Tool flip the bird to everything that is standard in radio and release a 9 minute song as a single, unedited. I feel just like this, greenday have become this uniformed band, who stick to routines at their gigs. I much prefered their more old school punk days, where they didnt give a fuck! But it seems that this is happening everywhere in music, the freedom on stage just isnt there anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2005 18:50:37 GMT -5
I have a feeling the singles are going to be as follows: 1. American Idiot 2. Boulevard Of Broken Dreams 3. Holiday 4. Wake Me Up When September Ends I doubt it. I think they will get Jesus of Suburbia out and rightfully so. They might have to make an edit. As for the fourth single, I think it'll be Extraordinary Girl because it's very summery. I could see them releasing Watshername, too, but not Wake Me Up When September Ends because it's too similar to Macy's Day Parade and Good Ridance. I think Holiday would've made a far better single than Boulevard of Broken Dreams. Oh really now..
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Post by friday on Sept 1, 2005 20:12:39 GMT -5
:( I thought the bump would be something confirming this would be number 5.
Of course, it doesn't matter if it is or not.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2005 20:13:15 GMT -5
Actually it wasn't just a bump. I moved it here because it's the fifth single. They're getting ready to shoot the video.
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Post by friday on Sept 1, 2005 20:16:06 GMT -5
Actually it wasn't just a bump. I moved it here because it's the fifth single. They're getting ready to shoot the video. Oh...
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