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Post by Radiorocks on Feb 25, 2004 13:34:58 GMT -5
Song A:
CHR POP: #10
Rhythmic: #1
Urban: #5
Estimated Audience: 150 million
Song B:
CHR POP: #5
Rhythmic: #5
Urban: #5
Estimated Audience: 150 million
Song C:
CHR POP: #10
Rhythmic: #10
Urban: #10
Hot AC: #10
AC: #10
Urban AC: #10
Estimated Audience: 150 million
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2004 13:36:44 GMT -5
Song C
Most of these scenarios are just about impossible, especially C.
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Post by Radiorocks on Feb 25, 2004 13:38:20 GMT -5
I believe "Hey Ya" is the closest song to ever come to scenario C. The only one it hasn't charted on was AC.
But i disagree with your decision, i think song B would be the bigger hit. Even though song C is heard by more people, they probably don't hear it that much. Song B is heard a lot by a smaller group of people but they hear it a lot more.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2004 13:39:50 GMT -5
I believe "Hey Ya" is the closest song to ever come to scenario C. The only one it hasn't charted on was AC. It didn't chart at Urban AC either. Now that I think of it, "Fallin" may have made all those formats. |
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Feb 25, 2004 13:44:20 GMT -5
C
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2004 13:46:15 GMT -5
But i disagree with your decision, i think song B would be the bigger hit. Even though song C is heard by more people, they probably don't hear it that much. Song B is heard a lot by a smaller group of people but they hear it a lot more. No, Song C would be a guaranteed #1 on the Hot 100. |
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Post by Radiorocks on Feb 25, 2004 13:53:48 GMT -5
I just checked Mediabase and compiled what the actual audience impression would be if that actually happened to a song. I came up with...
Song A: 146 million
Song B: 144 million
Song C: 129 million
Despite all those formats, Song C still comes up short in audience impression.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2004 13:54:57 GMT -5
So you just answered your own question. You could have done that to begin with.
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Post by Radiorocks on Feb 25, 2004 13:56:25 GMT -5
So you just answered your own question. You could have done that to begin with. But some people still might feel that since Song C is heard by a variety of different people, it could be the bigger hit, so this is why i did this topic, to get other people's opinion, not to get rude remarks from a moderator. |
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Post by Keith3000 on Feb 25, 2004 13:56:37 GMT -5
With music at the moment, there is almost no way a song can reach Top 10 on all those formats and even if it does, it would do better on some than others. Josh made a good example with "Fallin'", though it didn't go that high on the various AC charts.
I guess "One Sweet Day" was the last song to do so well on all those formats, maybe also "Nobody Knows" and "Un-break My Heart"..
To answer the question, I'd say C would be the bigger hit, if there ever is a song that charts in that way...
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Feb 25, 2004 14:05:44 GMT -5
I say neither because they all have the same amount of audience.
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Post by Leafstorm on Feb 25, 2004 16:39:18 GMT -5
I will go with Song C. Not only did the song get multi-format play, but it actually hit the top 10 in all of the formats... so it's definitely a huge hit.
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Post by Ragin on Feb 25, 2004 16:53:51 GMT -5
The more people that know your song, the bigger a hit it is in my opinion. Audience impressions are important, but I'd say reaching top 10 at all those formats would make the song known to far more people than the other two songs. To get to top 10 you need to have just about every surveyed station playing your song and in so doing even if it isn't getting as many plays in certain areas, it is still getting heard by the majority of listeners. Therefore the song that is played on the most stations, song C, is heard by more people.
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Post by af18c on Feb 25, 2004 19:25:41 GMT -5
C.
IMO, a top 10 Multiformat song is a bigger it than a #1 Monoformat song.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Feb 25, 2004 20:34:22 GMT -5
IMO 150 million listeners is 150 million listeners doesn't matter what format they come from.
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Post by irice22 on Feb 25, 2004 20:56:07 GMT -5
I voted for C.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 25, 2004 21:05:17 GMT -5
Peaks mean nothing if you don't know how long they stayed around for.
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Post by jimmy74747 on Feb 25, 2004 21:39:42 GMT -5
But i disagree with your decision, i think song B would be the bigger hit. Even though song C is heard by more people, they probably don't hear it that much. Song B is heard a lot by a smaller group of people but they hear it a lot more. Yeah, but wouldn't more DIFFERENT people hearing a song lead to more DIFFERENT people buying the album? Far more people will listen to Song C. |
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Post by jimmy74747 on Feb 25, 2004 21:45:24 GMT -5
IMO 150 million listeners is 150 million listeners doesn't matter what format they come from. However 150 million audience impression does not mean 150 million different people heard the song. Rhythmic stations play a song 15 times a day, while AC stations play a song 5 times a day. If I listen to an AC station for 5 hours, I hear this song once If I listen to the same song on a rhythmic station, it will be on 3 times in that same time period. Therefore the same person counts three times as often on a rhthmic station. |
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Post by j on Feb 25, 2004 22:57:16 GMT -5
Yeah, but wouldn't more DIFFERENT people hearing a song lead to more DIFFERENT people buying the album? Far more people will listen to Song C. Took the words right out of my mouth. Peaks mean nothing if you don't know how long they stayed around for. Again, you took the words right out of my mouth. Most of these scenarios are just about impossible, especially C. And again. so this is why i did this topic, to get other people's opinion, not to get rude remarks from a moderator. But not you.  |
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Post by Radiorocks on Feb 25, 2004 23:09:49 GMT -5
How bipolar.
Anyway, i disagree with the reason why a lot of you are picking song C. Chances are the people that hear song c only hear it like once a day if they always only listen to one format, i don't think that leads to album sales at all. I don't buy albums from artists who's songs i hardly hear on the radio. Now song b, chances are people are hearing this song 3 times a day, which means people will remember this song throughout the day and will lead to album sales.
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Post by mst3k on Feb 25, 2004 23:20:53 GMT -5
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Post by jond7699 on Feb 27, 2004 13:48:18 GMT -5
Option #3 is what I voted for because it has the most appeal to a wide range of audience. Instead of being played on just 3 formats it was played on 5 or 6
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Post by j on Feb 27, 2004 21:36:11 GMT -5
1. "Which," not "what".
2. "The," not "a".
3. "Biggest," not "bigger".
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Post by Radiorocks on Feb 28, 2004 0:47:33 GMT -5
1. "Which," not "what". 2. "The," not "a". 3. "Biggest," not "bigger". Since we are all over grammar tonight, your username should be "I", not i. That's one of the biggest no-no's in the book. |
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Feb 28, 2004 14:49:44 GMT -5
1. "Which," not "what". 2. "The," not "a". 3. "Biggest," not "bigger". |
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Post by j on Feb 28, 2004 17:58:02 GMT -5
Actually, if it were "Which do you think is the biggest hit?", grammatically it would be "bigger". "Which" is not restricted to comparing only a pair of items. When you're comparing between 3 items, "bigger" is wrong. |
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