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Jul 21, 2004 10:39:57 GMT -5
Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jul 21, 2004 10:39:57 GMT -5
Guys, what do you consider hip-hop? Is hip-hop the same thing as rap?
Would 'I Like That' by Houston qualify as hip-hop but not rap?
I consider Hip-Hop to be a mix between what R&B is and what Rap is. It can or cannot contain rapping but it has the beats that a lot of rap songs have.
Anyways, give some examples with your explainnations
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jond7699
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Jul 21, 2004 11:49:32 GMT -5
Post by jond7699 on Jul 21, 2004 11:49:32 GMT -5
I would consider Missy Elliot to be Hip Hop more than Rap. But it is hard to say why. I think HH has more to do with the beats rather than the style of singing but I could be way off
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Jul 21, 2004 15:19:47 GMT -5
Post by strong4PMB! on Jul 21, 2004 15:19:47 GMT -5
Hip-hop is a culture. Rap is a genre of music.
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Jul 21, 2004 17:40:54 GMT -5
Post by BlahBlahBlah on Jul 21, 2004 17:40:54 GMT -5
Well with the MTV Awards, the difference between the videos in "Best Hip-Hop Video" and "Best Rap Video" is that the songs in the former category have more distinctive singing hooks. I know MTV's not the best source to rely on, but it sounds right to me.
Last year, the nominees for Best Hip-Hop Video were: Busta Rhymes & Mariah Carey featuring The Flipmode Squad: "I Know What You Want" Jay-Z featuring Beyoncรฉ Knowles: "'03 Bonnie & Clyde" Missy "Misdmeanor" Elliott: "Work It" Nelly: "Hot In Herre" Snoop Dogg featuring Pharrell & Uncle Charlie Wilson: "Beautiful"
As for Best Rap Video: 50 Cent: "In Da Club" Eminem: "Lose Yourself" Ludacris featuring Mystikal & I-20: "Move Bitch" Nas: "I Can" Tupac featuring Nas: "Thugz Mansion"
"I Like That" is definitely not rap, I don't even know if I would consider it hip-hop though.
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msanoja
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Jul 21, 2004 17:46:04 GMT -5
Post by msanoja on Jul 21, 2004 17:46:04 GMT -5
I think hip hop is more dance involved, rap is more on the rhyming aspect, etc.
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Jul 21, 2004 18:21:40 GMT -5
Post by Miguelรญn on Jul 21, 2004 18:21:40 GMT -5
I think hip hop is more dance involved, rap is more on the rhyming aspect, etc. I agree with this
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Jul 21, 2004 19:31:56 GMT -5
Post by bluenote on Jul 21, 2004 19:31:56 GMT -5
Hip-hop is a culture. Rap is a genre of music. that sthe answer 100% I dont know what some of the others were talkin about... Hip hop has nothing to do with dance beats or hooks...or MTV for that matter. Now that hip hop is so popular it is more commercialized then ever and more people who dont know anything about the hip hop lifestyle define it the way they want to like MTV does, so people have their own definition of it. But you will hear most credible MC's say that hip hop is a culture, its a way of life. Rap is just a genre of music or a thing to do.
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Jul 22, 2004 0:57:08 GMT -5
Post by irice22 on Jul 22, 2004 0:57:08 GMT -5
I heard hip-hop is very fast singing whereas rap is very fast talking.
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Jul 22, 2004 3:30:34 GMT -5
Post by Edf85 on Jul 22, 2004 3:30:34 GMT -5
I heard hip-hop is very fast singing whereas rap is very fast talking. You also live in Colorado, hon.ย Rap is hardcore
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Jul 22, 2004 9:44:18 GMT -5
Post by mst3k on Jul 22, 2004 9:44:18 GMT -5
Like Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer?
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Jul 22, 2004 10:37:49 GMT -5
Post by krazymack on Jul 22, 2004 10:37:49 GMT -5
I think "I Like That" can be considered a hiphop song. If we broke down the origins of the song, it would be classified as a track having more R&B with some "crunk" style rap.
I would describe Usher f/ Lil' Jon & Ludacris' "Yeah," as the same kind of style as Houston's song.
I would say there are two core types of genres represented in Urban music those are: rap and R&B.ย I would say more rap is classified as hiphop, and the other half of Urban music where songs strictly have 'soulful singing' would be considered R&B.ย There are some tracks which aren't full R&B songs and features some rap vocals, so I would lump those in a hiphop category as well. Some Urban stations use the slogan, "The best hiphop and R&B," to represent the distinction of songs within the Urban genre.ย ย
I think the definition of hiphop can also be used to describe culture like geoguy said.ย This is centered around fashion, music, and life in the urban ghettos.ย The hiphop "way of life" can be reflected by many rap artists today.ย
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Jul 22, 2004 14:00:37 GMT -5
Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jul 22, 2004 14:00:37 GMT -5
I would consider Missy Elliot to be Hip Hop more than Rap. But it is hard to say why. I think HH has more to do with the beats rather than the style of singing but I could be way off That's what I was thinking. 'I Like That' by Houston I would definately call hip-hop. 'One Minute Man' and 'Gossipin' Folx', to me, would both be hip-hop but not rap, even though Ludacris raps in both of them, but if I had to classify them, they'd go under hip-hop. 'Yeah' by Usher I'd call hip-hop over R&B but 'Burn' and 'Confessions 2' would be R&B or Urban.
Then there's R&B and Urban. I use those genre labels interchangably and they both mean the same to me but I hear often that Urban covers everything from R&B to rap to hip-hop and then I hear hip-hop covering everything other than music. But I also hear it used to describe a subgenre of Urban music.
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