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Post by winner2000 on Jul 29, 2006 23:00:56 GMT -5
Ah man, I thought the single would have been better than this! It's looking kinda iffy for them IMO...hopefully they don't end up like Hoobastank or something :\
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Post by allnightmarelong on Aug 3, 2006 14:57:44 GMT -5
www.mininova.org/tor/381859 <- torrent site where you can download the single. so Wind-Up held back the song and album so they could retool this song...? I see. well I'd like to hear the original cause it's probably better than this one. once again, Wind-Up proves its a horrible label.
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Post by singingsparrow on Aug 3, 2006 17:02:45 GMT -5
Ah man, I thought the single would have been better than this! It's looking kinda iffy for them IMO...hopefully they don't end up like Hoobastank or something :\ I don't think they'll end up like a more successful Hoobastank, I think they'll end up like a more successful Live! ;) Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by Pipa on Aug 3, 2006 18:17:22 GMT -5
It's going to go Top 5 simply because it's Evanescence. Alternative doesn't care if your song is good or not anymore.
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Post by singingsparrow on Aug 3, 2006 21:14:06 GMT -5
It's going to go Top 5 simply because it's Evanescence. Alternative doesn't care if your song is good or not anymore. I really don't think there's a guarantee here though despite the name recognition. As I recall, "My Immortal" barely even made the Top 50, where despite not being Alternative friendly at all, when any hype is on singles tend to go Top 30 on name recognition alone. Then "Everybody's Fool", which was very friendly for the format, didn't go Top 30 either. This single will undoubtedly very easily outpeak both those singles in a week alone, but I wouldn't be surprised to see it stall once entering the Top 20, and then inch up from there from anywhere from a peak of #8 to #15. Most times when coming off of a multi-platinum smash, yes, name recognition alone catapuls artists into the Top 10 instantly. But Hoobastank and The White Stripes revealed a different result, and I think this single will fall in-between these two results. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by tortuga on Aug 4, 2006 0:31:56 GMT -5
www.mininova.org/tor/381859 <- torrent site where you can download the single. so Wind-Up held back the song and album so they could retool this song...? I see. well I'd like to hear the original cause it's probably better than this one. once again, Wind-Up proves its a horrible label. Amy chosed this song as the single, not Wind-up.
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Post by American Idiot on Aug 4, 2006 15:07:11 GMT -5
I don't think this is a bad song at all. I mean I heard better from Fallen, but I'm not disappointed. Its already making a good impact in its first week, so I'd expect it to go Top 10 for sure.
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Post by American Idiot on Aug 6, 2006 23:27:38 GMT -5
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Post by barfly on Aug 7, 2006 14:23:16 GMT -5
I am kind of disappointed in this one.
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Post by Pipa on Aug 7, 2006 15:44:59 GMT -5
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Post by jdmasta289 on Aug 9, 2006 0:02:26 GMT -5
I am actually pleasantly surprised by this song musically, and am also surprised that it seems to be absolutely taking off on the alt. format (#22 debut I believe). I thought there would be a greater backlash due to the pop success of "My Immortal" and the long wait between albums. Might debut in the top 30 on pop next week as well. "Bring Me To Life" was rather generic, but I still believe they have the talent to produce epic (and, yes, groundbreaking) music. They didn't quite do it with their last album, and I would like to see them venture deeper with The Open Door.
Did Amy Lee seriously sing lead in this band when they formed back in '93, or was she recruited to take over later in their careers?
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Post by pen on Aug 9, 2006 9:15:19 GMT -5
Amy Lee has always been in the band, yes.
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Post by reception on Aug 9, 2006 19:29:31 GMT -5
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Post by jdmasta289 on Aug 10, 2006 2:30:09 GMT -5
Amy Lee has always been in the band, yes. So she started out as the frontman at age 13? Wow.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Aug 10, 2006 14:25:13 GMT -5
I thought she was 14/15 when the band formed? And yes, she was in it from the very beginning...
"Folks new to Evanescence fandom may be surprised to learn that Ben Moody and Amy Lee, the founding members of Evanescence, met at church camp. I interviewed Ben in 1998 and here's how he characterized the meeting: Several years ago Amy and myself were attending a youth camp. I was playing with the praise and worship group and Amy was a camper. During some kind of break/recreation time I was sitting in the gym watching a basketball game. On the other side of the court was a stage for plays and a piano. I was just sitting there bored to tears when all of the sudden I was given a quick jolt as my ears were filled with the sound of the piano intro to Meatloaf's "I Would Do Anything For Love."
I looked over at the piano and there was this girl effortlessly displaying emmence amounts of talent. After my initial envious rage subsided I hopped to my feet and ran right through the basketball game straight to the piano and introduced myself."
He said later in the interview that they were in a band together before they could legally drive a car, so I guess 13-15 years old is about right. Ben and Amy were the two original members. Its said they are broken up now after being together for sooooooooooooooooo long :(
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Post by jetblacknewyear on Aug 13, 2006 9:41:55 GMT -5
The funny thing about this song..Amy Lee's ex-boyfriend Shaun Morgan checked into rehab a couple weeks back.
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Post by pen on Aug 13, 2006 11:22:48 GMT -5
The funny thing about this song..Amy Lee's ex-boyfriend Shaun Morgan checked into rehab a couple weeks back. There was a rumor flying around that this song was written about him. Don't know how much truth there is to that though.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Aug 14, 2006 1:50:36 GMT -5
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Post by polly on Aug 14, 2006 10:29:24 GMT -5
Wow thanks for that link. I hope this song takes off. It's too awesome not to!
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Post by jdmasta289 on Aug 14, 2006 18:21:36 GMT -5
Wow, I feel quite dumb now that I couldn't add two and two together. After reading about Morgan's rehab check-in, I still didn't know what this was about. Now it's pretty obvious. I still believe this has been a pleasant surprise this year. I didn't expect them to come back with something so strong and radio-friendly. The zealous love many of the posters gave Amy Lee on the old R&R message boards still makes me want to puke, and I remember HATING "Bring Me To Life" when it first came out. But her Victorian style really single-handedly sets this band apart from their synth-metal peers (ahem, Korn & Linkin Park). Could this stand a shot at #1?
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Post by pen on Aug 14, 2006 20:00:31 GMT -5
Synth-metal? Korn and Linkin Park? I always associate that concept more with Orgy and Deadsy.
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Post by Hook on Aug 15, 2006 21:27:29 GMT -5
This song is available on iTunes. :) The album is also up for pre-order with a bonus track.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Aug 15, 2006 21:33:09 GMT -5
Synth-metal? Korn and Linkin Park? I always associate that concept more with Orgy and Deadsy. I consider them synth-metal, but you probably know more about metal sub-genres than I do. Feel free to ask me about emo subgenres anytime. No, please don't.
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Post by Quasi on Aug 16, 2006 1:18:28 GMT -5
I love this single.
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Post by fatalthirteen on Aug 18, 2006 14:44:24 GMT -5
It's not a bad song by any means but being the huge evanescence fan that I am, I am a little disappointed. "Going under" and "Tourniquet" are still some of my all-time favorite tracks to date. And I know that neither were the first single but this is the direction Evanescence wen't with their music then they are going to go from being a favorite musical group to only a casual listen. I hope the songwriting on the rest of the album is darker and more metaphorical and definately a little less commercial...and definately a tad more simplistic musically as this song has way to many musical styles going on in it.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Aug 18, 2006 14:52:30 GMT -5
It's not a bad song by any means but being the huge evanescence fan that I am, I am a little disappointed. "Going under" and "Tourniquet" are still some of my all-time favorite tracks to date. And I know that neither were the first single but this is the direction Evanescence wen't with their music then they are going to go from being a favorite musical group to only a casual listen. I hope the songwriting on the rest of the album is darker and more metaphorical and definately a little less commercial...and definately a tad more simplistic musically as this song has way to many musical styles going on in it. I'm confused - why would you want the songwriting to be less commercial and more complex, and you basically say you want them to "venture out" and try new things, and yet you want the musical structure to be simpler? I'm not trying to argue with your opinion, but please elaborate, because I'm just a little confused - maybe I misread.
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Post by fatalthirteen on Aug 18, 2006 15:03:48 GMT -5
You are making the assumption that I mean commercial = simple and and less commercial = complex. Although that may be true in some respects, that isn't what I meant. I am claiming that that tracks like "Going Under" are simpler musically and yet still less commercial. It's not that I have anything against complex songwriting, it is just that Evanescence often doesn't try so many different things in one song as they do with "Call Me When You're Sober". And despite all twists and turns in the track provided by the abrupt tempo and instrumentation changes, the song is still commercial in terms of lyrical subject matter, melody, and Amy Lee's vocal style in the song. Maybe I'm just afraid I'm going to miss Fallen when this new album finally comes out...
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Post by jdmasta289 on Aug 18, 2006 15:09:02 GMT -5
You are making the assumption that I mean commercial = simple and and less commercial = complex. Although that may be true in some respects, that isn't what I meant. I am claiming that that tracks like "Going Under" are simpler musically and yet still less commercial. It's not that I have anything against complex songwriting, it is just that Evanescence often doesn't try so many different things in one song as they do with "Call Me When You're Sober". And despite all twists and turns in the track provided by the abrupt tempo and instrumentation changes, the song is still commercial in terms of lyrical subject matter, melody, and Amy Lee's vocal style in the song. Maybe I'm just afraid I'm going to miss Fallen when this new album finally comes out... Good call. If that's the case, then you will probably be disappointed. Actually, in the MTV article Nick linked me, Amy Lee stated blatantly that she wants to move away from lyrical metaphors and just focus on straightforward messages, that can be heard in a song like this.
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Post by fatalthirteen on Aug 18, 2006 17:03:01 GMT -5
I think in that article you are referring to she was speaking more about the first single more than anything else. I'm not sure how to link but I just watched the Canada.com interview and she did say that tracks such as "Lithium" are very metaphorical. However, it's not so much that her lyrics have to be necessarily very metaphorical for me to enjoy them--it's just that she is capable of FAR MORE superior lyricism than what is displayed in the new single.
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Post by fatalthirteen on Aug 24, 2006 15:37:11 GMT -5
It is making large increases at the rock formats, and it just debuted at #25 on the Hot 100, I'm pleasantly surprised! This may very well become their biggest hit to date.
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