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Post by American Idiot on Jul 13, 2006 22:09:30 GMT -5
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Post by Chase on Jul 13, 2006 23:20:28 GMT -5
Haha, sorry to start a sensitive debate...I was just wondering how Fall Out Boy and Blink fall into the emo category...I always thought they were just rock bands.
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Post by oinapead on Jul 14, 2006 0:36:37 GMT -5
This song is so routine and even similar to Coldplay's Talk, but definitely no good. And you can feel this Brandon guy is trying really hard, like Beyonce or something.
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Post by pen on Jul 14, 2006 0:58:05 GMT -5
This song is so rutin and even similar to Coldplay's Talk, but definitely no good. And you can feel this Brendan boy is trying really hard, like Beyonce or something. The man's name is Brandon, he sounds absolutely nothing like Beyonce, rutin is a yellow crystalline flavonol glycoside that occurs in various plants such as buckwheat and tobacco and is used in medicine chiefly for strengthening capillary walls (thank you Merriam-Webster), and the only people who call anyone "boy" are police officers and rednecks.
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Post by oinapead on Jul 14, 2006 1:10:06 GMT -5
Made some changes for you, but still my opinion is the same and yes he doesn't sound like Beyonce but he's trying too hard with his vocals in this song, which is similar to Beyonce's new song Deja Vu, where the artist tries to show, that's she's so serious about her music.
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Post by pen on Jul 14, 2006 1:28:59 GMT -5
I guess I wouldn't really know. By the way, you still forgot the o in routine.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Jul 14, 2006 2:47:33 GMT -5
This song is so routine and even similar to Coldplay's Talk, but definitely no good. And you can feel this Brandon guy is trying really hard, like Beyonce or something. I'm really trying my best to imagine Brandon sounding anything like Beyonce, let alone any female pop-hop/R&B singer, and I'm drawing a blank. Soulful? Yes. In a retro/alternative/'80s white boy sort of way. Not an ex-Destiny front(wo)man sorta way, I'm sorry. As far as the emo movement goes, I'll take Brandon's comments with a grain of salt. He's still relatively new to the scene, and although I don't think any artist should open their mouth and slam an entire genre of music, he especially shouldn't do it. Although I agree that many of the Warped bands sound similar, I think most, if not all, have something unique to bring to the table. Fuse, an entire network, focuses mostly on those emo & punk bands. There are bands in many subgenres that also sound the same, and there are those who sound more commercialized (see: The Vines, The Subways, or She Wants Revenge in the indie genre. They are basically the equivalent to emo's Hawthorne Heights, Yellowcard, and Fall Out Boy). I'll be damned if Brandon is going to include such great talents as Conor Oberst, Carrabba, Thursday, or even the Mars Volta, in with the other ones. Generalization gets you nowhere. Maybe if he had a publicist who gave a damn, he wouldn't say a mouthful. Penance, I don't necessarily see where you're coming from when you state there are several different "emo" movements. I'm not disagreeing, I just don't see it. To me, traditional emo grew in the '70s or '80s - I'm thinking David Bowie, David Byrne, or even the Smiths. The emo that exists today, which includes all bands from Straylight Run to Taking Back Sunday to Thursday to Fall Out Boy, grew from, or was inspired from, traditional punk rock. That said, two genres which grew out of traditional punk exist today - basically, it's real punk (actually an extremely small genre nowadays), followed by two dominant subgenres - punk/pop and emo-punk. I would place bands like NoFX and Rise Against as straightforward punk, where Sum 41, Blink 182, Green Day, and Less Than Jake are simply punk-pop, and bands like Silverstein, Hawthorne, among many other similar bands as emo-punk (including Fall Out Boy and Panic!) Punk rock typically focuses on political anger and social issues. Emo typically centers on intense personal feelings, relationships, personalities, etc. Punk-pop is an infusion of both, but more lighthearted on both subjects, and is structured more like punk than emo, but more of a watered down, commercialized punk. *Edit* - Oh yeah, and other subgenres include ska-punk (Less Than Jake could also fall into this category). That also includes bands like MMB and Sublime. I have a handle on what ska punk is - it's basically punk or punk-pop with horns and a reggae influence. And if you want to make things even more confusing, music like the Yeah Yeah Yeahs or the Strokes could fall into the post-punk category (I don't even know what that is, to be honest). I'm sure there are more, and if AllMusic moved more rapidly on my dinosaur laptop computer, I could pull them up myself. Why don't you guys look them up, though? ;)
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Post by pen on Jul 14, 2006 4:31:46 GMT -5
I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that.
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Post by American Idiot on Jul 14, 2006 9:43:16 GMT -5
Now that I have heard the entire song, I'd have to input that this is the best Killers song I've heard (meaning out of the singles they've had in the past since I don't own Hot Fuss).
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Post by Hook on Jul 14, 2006 11:03:11 GMT -5
I love it, but not as much as 3 of the 4 Hot Fuss singles(I do like this better than 'Smile Like You Mean It'). 'Somebody Told Me' is still my favorite.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Jul 15, 2006 16:05:23 GMT -5
I am thoroughly impressed with this new single, and I don't consider myself a fan. I think this will probably go to top 3 with much longevity. Similar to "Mr. Brightside", but maybe with more quirks and changes of tempo/melody. I really, really love this follow-up.
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Post by alexcuse on Jul 15, 2006 19:08:17 GMT -5
With more listens, I'm even more convinced that this song is more likely to get recurrent-itis and still get regular airplay spins even two years from now than it is to drop off the charts quickly. It has that quality of safe re-listenability that ensures it to become a recurrent staple.
Even if future singles from this album totally blow this song away in popularity and quality, "When You Were Young" will still be a part of the regular playlist alongside those songs. Consider that just as recently as last month, LA's KROQ gave Mr. Brightside 61 spins, Somebody Told Me 50 spins, All These Things That I've Done 48 spins, and Jenny Was a Friend of Mine 15 spins all in the same month.
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Post by lsutigerfan on Jul 16, 2006 1:00:01 GMT -5
Just heard this song on XM Radio 47 Ethel for the first time, and I have to say I'm very impressed. Very catchy on first listen. Can't wait to hear all of "Sam's Town".
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Post by Rob64 on Jul 16, 2006 11:03:46 GMT -5
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Post by Chase on Jul 16, 2006 23:27:49 GMT -5
I'm sure this has been known for weeks, but I just read "Bones" and "Read My Mind" (re-hash of "Change Your Mind" ??) will also be titles of tracks.
Going back to Hot Fuss, I loved Jenny Was A Friend of Mine and was glad that KROQ added it to rotation. I guess it wasn't an official single, though? In my opinion, Smile Like You Mean It was an awful single choice, and "Change Your Mind" was ready to be a hit on radio. Ooooh well.
Andrew
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Post by singingsparrow on Jul 16, 2006 23:51:31 GMT -5
With more listens, I'm even more convinced that this song is more likely to get recurrent-itis and still get regular airplay spins even two years from now than it is to drop off the charts quickly. It has that quality of safe re-listenability that ensures it to become a recurrent staple. Even if future singles from this album totally blow this song away in popularity and quality, "When You Were Young" will still be a part of the regular playlist alongside those songs. Consider that just as recently as last month, LA's KROQ gave Mr. Brightside 61 spins, Somebody Told Me 50 spins, All These Things That I've Done 48 spins, and Jenny Was a Friend of Mine 15 spins all in the same month. I'm going to disagree here. "When You Were Young" is their most poppiest single since "Mr. Brightside", and unlike "Mr. Brightside", which indeed had great chart longevity here because of the hype and all, I think this will rise fast, and then fall fast after teetering around in the Top 10 for a short while. It'll perform better in terms of longevity than "Smile Like You Mean It" at least, but this single is going to have a shorter chart run than both "Somebody Told Me" and "Mr. Brightside", and I think will be below #20 before its 20th week on the chart. Sincerely, Noah Eaton
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Post by kingLUKE22 on Jul 17, 2006 10:42:07 GMT -5
I have to admit being underwhelmed by this song. Something about Brandon's vocals sounds strained, and it really detracts from the whole production.
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Post by Dan on Jul 17, 2006 13:03:48 GMT -5
Great song! I instantly like it better than "Somebody told me" and "Smile like you mean it." This should do very well.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Jul 18, 2006 0:07:56 GMT -5
My Djs were going on about this like they are the new gods of music. Like, oh, finally a band that releases increasingly better music and how this will seal their stardom. I dont really get it...I like all of their other singles better.
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Post by allnightmarelong on Jul 18, 2006 0:20:07 GMT -5
how I dislike Synthesizers!!!
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Post by winner2000 on Jul 18, 2006 11:49:11 GMT -5
If anyone's interested, a HQ version leaked onto torrent sites yesterday (perhaps earlier)...
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Post by pen on Jul 18, 2006 15:10:05 GMT -5
Of what, the song or the album? Don't play with my emotions here.
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Post by Slinky on Jul 18, 2006 20:53:27 GMT -5
Really good song, with really bad vocals.
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Post by winner2000 on Jul 18, 2006 21:21:42 GMT -5
Of what, the song or the album? Don't play with my emotions here. The song, the song!!!
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Jul 23, 2006 22:52:00 GMT -5
This song lacks the punch of the last album's singles, and Brandon's vocals only make it worse.
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Post by Adz on Jul 24, 2006 0:17:58 GMT -5
Dire.
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Post by jdmasta289 on Jul 24, 2006 16:25:01 GMT -5
How interesting that there are so many people on this message board who love the Killers far more than myself and yet I'm liking this much, much more than anyone else. This is easily their best single to date, and I don't consider myself a fan. Much like I do with Billy Corgan and the Smashing Pumpkins, I'll judge the ego separately from the music.
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Post by tortuga on Jul 24, 2006 23:01:08 GMT -5
What does "dire" mean?
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Post by Chromeozone on Jul 24, 2006 23:32:45 GMT -5
How interesting that there are so many people on this message board who love the Killers far more than myself and yet I'm liking this much, much more than anyone else. This is easily their best single to date, and I don't consider myself a fan. Much like I do with Billy Corgan and the Smashing Pumpkins, I'll judge the ego separately from the music. I think the main reason is that it departs from the electro/new wave/80s sound of the first album, which is a big mistake, I think.
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Post by Dan on Jul 25, 2006 12:11:53 GMT -5
How interesting that there are so many people on this message board who love the Killers far more than myself and yet I'm liking this much, much more than anyone else. This is easily their best single to date, and I don't consider myself a fan. Much like I do with Billy Corgan and the Smashing Pumpkins, I'll judge the ego separately from the music. I think the main reason is that it departs from the electro/new wave/80s sound of the first album, which is a big mistake, I think. Huh? This still sounds very new-wave/80's to me. I mean, they still have the synthesizers that they had with their last album.
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