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Post by pen on Nov 7, 2007 9:59:13 GMT -5
Sevendust has just announced that they hope to have their seventh studio album and follow-up to last year's Alpha in stores on March 4th, which no doubt means a single will be on the way soon. I figure probably around January or so, to give enough time for promotion.
But holy s**t, these guys are machines. If they meet the March 4th release date, it will be just almost a year since Alpha, which came out March 6th of this year. I thought the turnaround time between Alpha and Next was really quick, but since then they've found time to put together that DVD set Retrospective 2, tour hard with Diecast and Red and then with 10 Years and Black Light Burns, and still write a brand new album and have it all ready to go. These guys need to take a break before they burst something.
But, y'know, after the new album.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Nov 7, 2007 18:43:23 GMT -5
I'm totally getting Retrospective 2...I really wish I could have gone to their NYC show with 10 Years.
I was assuming that the next single after Beg to Differ would have been one of the tracks on R2, but if there's something new for January, I'm all for that too...bring on the 'dust!
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jan 10, 2008 16:09:48 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if it gets pushed back (nor would I blame them). 52 weeks between albums with all the touring they do, I'd rather have them take at least a bit more time and write some songs that can really help cement their place in Rock/metal history. The first four albums established them, just to lose momentum with the whole TVT sucking and Clint leaving thing. And 'Next' got zero promotion as Winedark records basically went out of business fairly early during that album cycle. 'Alpha' has helped them get that momentum back with the success of "Driven." I'm personally worried they're rushing to put a new record out to capitalize on that success and keep the momentum going, but they need some quality songs to make sure that happens. And if that means taking another month or two, 14 months between albums is still ridiculously fast. I think they just need to focus on making the best record they possibly can.
As for what makes me think they might push it back, "Alpha" was released March 6, 2007. "Deathstar" had been on their myspace since early December of '06, and "Driven" was up on their myspace the 1/7/07 with an official add date at active rock according to the Deathstar/Driven threads here in this forum. Here we are, January 10, and we don't have a teaser song on their myspace let alone an actual legit single. That's almost 1 week less to promote the record, and unless the single comes in the next couple days, I think it's getting pushed back.
But when it does drop, I'll be pretty darn excited.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Jan 17, 2008 8:10:40 GMT -5
It got pushed back three weeks. We should still be able to hear the first single...probably middle of February or the end of February.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jan 20, 2008 0:36:28 GMT -5
Apparently they pushed back yet another week. April 1 now appears to be the release date. Let's hope there are no april fools jokes to go along with this release. I wouldn't be surprised if this just continues to get pushed back. I wish they'd released a 3rd single off "Alpha" and given themselves a bit more time to finish this. They still had "Clueless" and "Under" to release, both of which probably would have done better than "Beg to Differ," even as a 3rd single.
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Post by blurple on Jan 22, 2008 11:37:18 GMT -5
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Jan 22, 2008 12:24:06 GMT -5
Supposedly, when Daughtry and Sevendust were in concert together sometime over the summer at Earthday Birthday in Tampa, Daughtry did "Denial" with 'dust.
I absolutely cannot wait for this album.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jan 22, 2008 15:46:54 GMT -5
Sevendust will be on a heavyweight bill with Disturbed, Slipknot, Mastadon and Trivium. That's a pretty monster bill. And what that article said about having Chris Daughtry and Myles Kennedy as two of the best singers in rock singing for them is definitely true, but hey, Lajon is just as awesome as either of them. So that's three of the best rock vocalists on one album. Also members of Sevendust as well as Clint Lowery (formerly of Sevendust for those who don't follow the band much) showed up on an album recently that Corey Lowery (Clint's brother) is producing for some local Atlanta, GA band. Perhaps they're slowly getting on better terms with each other. One can only hope.
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Post by pen on Jan 22, 2008 16:28:32 GMT -5
If Marcos can be welcomed back into P.O.D., then why not Clint and Sevendust?
Also, even though it is still rumor, that bill does jive with the rumor that Slipknot and Disturbed were going to headline the Rockstar Mayhem tour. Maybe that's the tour they speak of? If so, then that's crazy that Mastodon is going to be on that thing. I wonder what they think about that.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Jan 22, 2008 20:54:47 GMT -5
Slightly off topic, but I think the band that Corey's producing is Echovalve. www.myspace.com/echovalvePersonally, I can't see Clint coming back to Sevendust...if anything though...if Dark New Day's album doesn't do that well (which I can see happening), Clint probably could have a spot in Korn.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jan 24, 2008 4:24:26 GMT -5
Also, even though it is still rumor, that bill does jive with the rumor that Slipknot and Disturbed were going to headline the Rockstar Mayhem tour. Maybe that's the tour they speak of? If so, then that's crazy that Mastodon is going to be on that thing. I wonder what they think about that. Yeah, I know. I'd heard it was going to be Disturbed, Slipknot and Mudvayne, but Mudvayne were waffling a little bit about confirming it. If it's Mastodon and Trivium instead, I can't believe either of those bands would see aligning themselves with Disturbed and Slipknot as a sure-footed career move. And that's cool that Daughtry sang "Denial" with Sevendust. That guy's turning out to be all right...
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Post by blurple on Jan 24, 2008 15:33:04 GMT -5
www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=89201SEVENDUST: New Album Track Listing Revealed - Jan. 24, 2008
SEVENDUST will release its seventh studio album, "Chapter VII: Hope and Sorrow", on April 1. The CD was produced by Sean Groove, Morgan Rose and John Connolly at Tree Sounds Studios in Atlanta, Georgia and will mark SEVENDUST's second release through the band's wholly owned record label, 7Bros. Records under Warner Music Group.
For the first time since "Animosity" (2001), the band has collaborated with outside artists. As the record gets finalized over the next few weeks, identities of the guest appearances will surface — SEVENDUST felt bringing in some outside friends (including Chris Daughtry and ALTER BRIDGE frontman Myles Kennedy) added a healthy dynamic for the project. Additionally, the band has signed on new management and feels like is a fresh new beginning for 2008!
"It was a challenging and exciting to write," says drummer Morgan Rose. "We've spent so much time with angst over our career that is was nice to in a good head space for a change while working on this project."
"There was a really relaxed vibe in the studio this time around," adds vocalist LaJon Witherspoon. "I think 'Hope and Sorrow' shows a different side of SEVENDUST. Heavy but yet still growing in a direction that explores a lot of different things musically for us. I'm excited about the album."
"Chapter VII: Hope and Sorrow" track listing:
01. Inside 02. Enough 03. Hope 04. Scapegoat 05. Fear 06. The Past 07. Prodigal Son 08. Lifeless 09. Sorrow 10. Contradiction 11. Walk Away
"Alpha" was released outside of the U.S. and Canada on November 12, 2007. The CD contains the original 12 songs plus the bonus track "The Rim" along with a brand new studio cut entitled "Abuse Me".
December 11, 2007 saw SEVENDUST open the vault on a three-year ride beginning in early January 2005 with the making of the album "Next", right up to the present with the release of "Retrospective 2"; a DualDisc CD/DVD pack. "Retrospective 2" features six live cuts and three brand new studio tracks on the CD and almost two hours of video footage on the DVD. The DualDisc is the second release on SEVENDUST's own 7 Bros. Records in conjunction with Warner Music Group's Independent Label Group. The collection includes videos from the hits "Ugly" and "Driven", the fury of one of rocks premier live performers captured on the tracks "Hero", "Silence", "Clueless" and "Alpha". But that's not all, embodied here are rare clips forever on display such as the unique Orlando question-and-answer event on the eve of the release of the record "Alpha", the New Year's Eve video of "The Rim", and as a special bonus, a comical episode of "Pete the A&R Guy" and what he has to say about the state of the DUST. This DVD and companion CD pack includes new audio tracks "Losing You" and "Sleeper", making this keepsake packaging a must for every SEVENDUST fan.
SEVENDUST's sixth studio album, "Alpha", came out in March and debuted at No. 14 on the Billboard album chart.
Former SEVENDUST axeman Clint Lowery spent most of 2007 touring as the session guitarist for KORN.
Watch SEVENDUST's "Driven" video (taken from "Alpha")
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Post by pen on Jan 24, 2008 22:41:17 GMT -5
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jan 25, 2008 14:39:22 GMT -5
From mtv/vh1.com:
No mention of Trivium, but DragonForce and Walls of Jericho more than pick up their slack.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Jan 26, 2008 9:54:33 GMT -5
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 6, 2008 2:00:47 GMT -5
I don't know if this should be viewed as a tip off on what the single may be, but Sirius Octane and WJJO in Madison, Wisconsin have both world premiered the song "Prodigal Son" in the last 48 hours. This could be a case of another "Pieces" for NEXT or "Deathstar" for ALPHA, or it could be the legit single. There's nothing on their myspace or website. Also, it's Track 7, and Sevendust lead singles are almost invariably track 2, with "Black" and "Driven" being the only exceptions as tracks 1 and 3 on their respective albums.
I also heard some rumor that Clint Lowery might somehow be involved with this album in some way. I'm guessing it's just a rumor, but if that were somehow the case, this could be an amazing record. I guess we shall see, shan't we.
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Post by pen on Feb 7, 2008 15:23:18 GMT -5
Tunelab claims "Prodigal Son" is the single and goes for adds February 19th. We'll see.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 7, 2008 23:10:48 GMT -5
I just heard the song for the first time. KUPD in AZ has been playing it all week apparently, so I started streaming it and after about 4 hours of listening, I finally heard it. It's really bluesy. It's like if Sevendust and Velvet Revolver had a baby. Sevendust-type verse, Velvet Revolver type chorus, and a hybrid in the bridge with a full-fledged guitar solo over a sevendust type riff.
I have no idea how this will do as a single, I could see it being their biggest Active Rock hit of their career, or their biggest dud of a lead single they've ever put out.
Hopefully they'll put it on their myspace soon so all you guys can hear it and weigh in. Bluesy rock seems to be pretty popular right now on active, so this might get them some plays.
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Post by American Idiot on Feb 8, 2008 0:28:44 GMT -5
Hmm. I can't really imagine what this could sound like from that description. Now I'm really freaking eager to hear this because it sounds like nothing Sevendust has made before. Very interesting indeed.
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Post by blurple on Feb 8, 2008 2:06:21 GMT -5
www.antimusic.com/news/08/feb/08Daughtry_Goes_Metal_As_Sevendust_Guest.shtml(PR) The final track listing for Sevendust's new album, Chapter VII: Hope & Sorrow has been announced and reveals that Chris Daughtry, a longtime fan of Sevendust's, will appear on the album as well as members of Alter Bridge. Chris Daughtry appears on the track "The Past" while Mark Tremonti of Alter Bridge guests on "Hope" and Miles Kennedy of Alter Bridge on "Sorrow."
Sevendust - Chapter VII: Hope & Sorrow is out April 1st on 7Bros./Asylum (in conjunction with Warner Music Group's Independent Label Group).
On the touring front, Sevendust has been announced as part of the first annual Mayhem Festival. The tour is set to kick off July 9th at the White River Amphitheatre in Seattle and will hit 30 cities in the U.S. and Canada between early July and late August (full itinerary to be announced in the coming weeks). Sevendust joins headliners Slipknot and Disturbed along with Dragonforce, Mastodon, Airbourne, Five Finger Death Punch and more.
Artist: Sevendust Album: Chapter VII: Hope & Sorrow Label: 7 Bros./Asylum Release Date: April 1st, 2008
1. Inside 2. Enough 3. Hope {Ft. Mark Tremonti of Alter Bridge} 4. Scapegoat 5. Fear 6. The Past {Ft. Chris Daughtry} 7. Prodigal Son 8. Lifeless 9. Sorrow {Ft. Miles Kennedy of Alter Bridge} 10. Contradiction 11. Walk Away
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Post by American Idiot on Feb 8, 2008 16:51:32 GMT -5
This is now streaming at their MySpace. www.myspace.com/sevendustI'm quite impressed as much as it does sound very much like every other Sevendust song I've ever heard, however I think it's a little catchier. I can see the comparisons to Velvet Revolver or even Audioslave for sure since it's got a slight Southern rock twist to it.
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Post by Crushcrushchris on Feb 8, 2008 17:17:40 GMT -5
I'll be buying this on April 1st.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 10, 2008 4:50:16 GMT -5
My hit-predictor of a roommate predicted this will go top 5 at Active Rock, and return them to the top 40 at alternative after a four year drought. It seems too good to be true in some ways, yet I also have a good feeling about this one. Anyone wanna weigh in?
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Feb 13, 2008 2:40:36 GMT -5
I just heard this for the first time on my radio today and was disappointed. This sounds like every other Sevendust single ever made.
And, y'know...it's not 1999 anymore.
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Post by pen on Feb 13, 2008 10:32:09 GMT -5
I just heard this for the first time on my radio today and was disappointed. This sounds like every other Sevendust single ever made. And, y'know...it's not 1999 anymore. I think that's really unfair. Sevendust is a band that knows what they're good at and plays to their strengths. It's true that they've stayed relatively the same since their beginnings, but they've also built up a really devoted fanbase, while bands that have changed their sound over the years like Papa Roach or Korn have had to continually rebuild. I don't think Sevendust can be blamed for wanting to stick with the sound that made them popular. I don't really know what else you expected.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 13, 2008 14:34:18 GMT -5
I think if they changed their sound, it would be for the worse. Sure, their songs for the most part sound alike, but at least they have a sound that is distinctly theirs. When I heard "Prodigal Son" on the radio for the first time, there was DJ introducing it and I had never heard it before. Yet from the opening riff, even before Lajon started singing, I knew it was them.
That said, I also think each album they've released has a distinctive sound. "Self-Titled"-era Sevendust, to "Home"-era Sevendust, to "Animosity"-era and so on...they're easy to tell apart. When somebody shows me an outtake for one of their albums, I can always guess correctly which album it was meant to be on.
And just for the record, "Prodigal Son" is the first lead single by Sevendust to have a legit guitar solo and no screaming vocals from Morgan Rose since "Black." So there are things that make this a lot different from what they've been doing on NEXT and ALPHA. This is their first track I've heard that sounds as raw as something you'd hear off "Self-Titled" or "Home." You could argue that that's going backwards, but this is the first time in awhile that they've felt comfortable and unforced in a long time. Compared to the awful "Enemy" and the bland "Ugly," I think this is a solid lead single, like "Black," "Denial," "Praise," and "Driven."
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Post by pen on Feb 13, 2008 15:17:45 GMT -5
I agree with everything you've just said. I like the cut of your jib.
It's like with Chevelle. Sure, some of their songs sound the same, but then again, have you ever heard a Chevelle song and not known it was them? They have a distinctive sound of their own.
Although I won't lie, when I heard Godsmack's "Speak", I thought it was Sevendust at first because of the guitars. Although I guess that says more about Godsmack than Sevendust.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Feb 13, 2008 19:54:33 GMT -5
I don't really know what else you expected. Something--anything--that would keep my interest like they used to. Rather, that's what I was hoping for.
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Post by pen on Feb 13, 2008 22:45:15 GMT -5
I don't really know what else you expected. Something--anything--that would keep my interest like they used to. Rather, that's what I was hoping for. Maybe your tastes have changed.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Feb 14, 2008 0:18:33 GMT -5
^ I will give you this: Clint Lowery really was the creative force behind the band in a lot of ways, and their versatility has been greatly diminished without him, as he was by far more musical than anyone else in the band. One really good band has become a somewhat less really good band in Sevendust and an ok band in Dark New Day (I think I would like them better if Clint sang instead of the Creed bassist dude, his voice sounds much better to me). But I feel like "Prodigal Son" has things to offer that singles off their last two albums haven't...a good melody, a good groove, and a real soulful feel to it. It's also more complex musically than other Sevendust singles, with key-changes, rhythms that are even more syncopated than their usual singles, and a good use of the blues scale, which is something Sevendust has never had in their tonal vocabulary. Sure I'm a total music theory nerd (it's what I'm majoring in in college right now) but these are things that they've never done before that I find particularly interesting.
I don't know, maybe listen to it again and you'll like it more. It's classic sevendust without any real surprises, but I do feel that it does bring some new things to the table, however subtle they may be. Sevendust is my second favorite band, behind Porcupine Tree, so I'm gonna be biased in favor of them, and love them through and dispite any shitty music they make, but I really feel (as objectively as possible) that "Prodigal Son" isn't just the same ol' same ol', as much as it sounds like Sevendust.
As far as Penance's comment, *tries to remember intro to Godsmack's "Speak"* *fails* *listens to it.* Yeah I can hear it. The production on Godsmack's "IV" is really not very good, probably because Sully produced it himself. It sounds kinda raw like Sevendust's self-titled in a lot of ways actually. And the riff feels like it would work on "Alpha." I think it's actually pretty similar to the riff in "Suffer."
I agree with the Chevelle thing, though given how Nick feels about "The Fad," perhaps that point won't sway him either.
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