Pop Chart 10/10

[ExActLy99]

Currently I only see one song getting played by every station, that being Stacie Orrico's "More To Life"
It looks like there is still one station not playing "Baby Boy" and two stations not playing "Here Without You"
I would imagine the 2 stations not playing "Here Without You" are the 2 giving the highest spins to "Baby Boy" Rochester and KCHZ.

[Cerebro]

Since someone is bound to ask, here's the recurrent schedule for the next month:

This Week (10/10 Chart):
Train, Michelle Branch, Matchbox Twenty

Next Week (10/17):
Thalia feat. Fat Joe, Lil' Kim feat. 50 Cent

Two Weeks (10/24):
MercyMe (if it doesn't fall off naturally next week)

Three Weeks, Four Weeks (10/31, 11/7):
none

Five Weeks (11/14):
Good Charlotte, Chingy

Whenever They Fall Below #20:
Beyonce' feat. Jay-Z (week 20 this week), Jason Mraz (week 25), Black Eyed Peas feat. Justin Timberlake (week 21), Nelly/P. Diddy/Murphy Lee (week 16)

[chebingeo]

Beyoncé SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO doesn't deserve #1!!! All because she's Beyoncé! This has got to be the worst song she has ever been a part of!!!

And speaking of garbage, looks like the current "in" thing 50 Cent gets himself yet another top 10. >:(

Is Nelly's total the lowest ever for the #1 song? Why is that even #1??? *Looks at the rest of the "pop" chart* oh nevermind, I just answered my own question.

[JCMF3]

chebingeo said:

Beyoncé SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO doesn't deserve #1!!! All because she's Beyoncé! This has got to be the worst song she has ever been a part of!!!

No, that would be either "Work It Out" or "In Da Club".

And speaking of garbage, looks like the current "in" thing 50 Cent gets himself yet another top 10. >:(

P.I.M.P. got lucky, that's all. A weak top 10... I agree that this song does not deserve top 10 status whatsoever.

Is Nelly's total the lowest ever for the #1 song?

I thought someone said when Donna Lewis hit #1, the spin total was only 5500-6000 spins. So no, this would not be the lowest spin total.

[Hervard]

3 Doors Down could possibly be the first number two peak of 2003. "Here Without You" is at number two, with a gain of 702, but just 44 spins behind is Beyonce with "Baby Boy", with a four-figure gain. I have a feeling they'll overtake 3DD.

[Mega248]

Cerebro said:

Since someone is bound to ask, here's the recurrent schedule for the next month:

This Week (10/10 Chart):
Train, Michelle Branch, Matchbox Twenty

Next Week (10/17):
Thalia feat. Fat Joe, Lil' Kim feat. 50 Cent

Two Weeks (10/24):
MercyMe (if it doesn't fall off naturally next week)

Three Weeks, Four Weeks (10/31, 11/7):
none

Five Weeks (11/14):
Good Charlotte, Chingy

Whenever They Fall Below #20:
Beyonce' feat. Jay-Z (week 20 this week), Jason Mraz (week 25), Black Eyed Peas feat. Justin Timberlake (week 21), Nelly/P. Diddy/Murphy Lee (week 16)

Doesn't MercyMe go recurrent next week, not in two weeks? Their chart run has been 50-49-46-41-39-37-34-35-32-33-31-29-31-32-34-38-39-43-47-43, which is 20 weeks.

I wonder if "Headstrong" will make the top 5. There doesn't seem to be anything that would stop it. It should easily be #10 next week.

"P.I.M.P." isn't the only song that's getting 'lucky' this week. After having around 2400 spins just a month ago, the #30 song now has less than 1700. Also, two weeks ago Staind was #40 with 1325 spins. This week they have only 353 spins more, but are twelve spots higher.

A combination of the chart becoming so weak and three songs going recurrent has caused some odd chart movements:

"Like Glue": 36-48-45
"I Can Only Imagine": 43-47-43
"Take Me Away": 47-50-38-38

New and active this week should look like this:

1. Most Valuable Playas
2. Fuel
3. Blaque
4. Mest
5. Ludacris

6. All-American Rejects
7. O.A.R.
8. Clay Aiken
9. Young Gunz
10. Chingy f/ Ludacris & Snoop Dogg

Britney Spears has enough spins to be #2 N&A, but she'll need to get quite a few early adds this week in order to be listed.

[Cerebro]

Mega248 said:

Doesn't MercyMe go recurrent next week, not in two weeks? Their chart run has been 50-49-46-41-39-37-34-35-32-33-31-29-31-32-34-38-39-43-47-43, which is 20 weeks.

D'oh! Thanks for the heads up. Seems I made an error in my "Wks on" column a while back. Yes, MercyMe will, indeed, go recurrent next week.

[EvanJ]

So does MercyMe have one of the ten lowest peak positions for a song that went recurrent?

[Cerebro]

EvanJ said:

So does MercyMe have one of the ten lowest peak positions for a song that went recurrent?

They must. I can only think of a scant few songs that have managed to go recurrent without even cracking the top 30. The ones off the top of my head:

DMX - Party Up (Up In Here)
Jay-Z feat. UGK - Big Pimpin'
Big Tymers - Still Fly
Norah Jones - Don't Know Why
Blu Cantrell feat. Sean Paul - Breathe

Any others?

[FreakyFlyBry]

Cerebro said:

Big Tymers - Still Fly

That only lasted 17 or 18 weeks, it never went recurrent.

Did Lit "My Own Worst Enemy" ever go recurrent?

I'm fairly sure "Luv Me, Luv Me" and "Mo Money, Mo Problems" went recurrent and only peaked in the lower 20's.

[JCMF3]

FreakyFlyBry said:

That only lasted 17 or 18 weeks, it never went recurrent.

Did Lit "My Own Worst Enemy" ever go recurrent?

I'm fairly sure "Luv Me, Luv Me" and "Mo Money, Mo Problems" went recurrent and only peaked in the lower 20's.

You mean they peaked in the upper 20s (lower 20s is like 21, 22, etc.).

I am pretty sure Britney got enough adds to be N&A. On all access, it said she received 25 adds on saturday, but over 80 stations were playing the song! :o :o And it looks like Britney will have a top 40 and possibly a top 30 entry next week on pop!

[JCMF3]

ExActLy99 said:

I would imagine the 2 stations not playing "Here Without You" are the 2 giving the highest spins to "Baby Boy" Rochester and KCHZ.

Ah, you would imagine wrong... KCHZ indeed added Here Without You a few weeks ago. Granted, it is not in its top 30, but it still was added to the station.

I am not sure about WKGS though... there is one station still not playing the song, and it could be them. I do know that the Omaha and Milwaukee pop stations just started on the song this past week.

[Mega248]

FreakyFlyBry said:

Did Lit "My Own Worst Enemy" ever go recurrent?

Yes.

Also, "Can I Get A..." and "We Like To Party" went recurrent and peaked at #30 and #28 respectively.

I wouldn't be surprised if there was at least one song that went recurrent without even making the top 40. I think "808" and "Back That Ass Up" came close.

[Eyeball]

No, #21, #22, etc. are the upper 20's, because they are higher on the chart. The lower 20's are 29, 28, 27, etc.

[irice22]

I'm gonna make a bold prediction for Trapt, but I think they can make #1 with "Headstrong."

[Keith3000]

irice22 said:

I'm gonna make a bold prediction for Trapt, but I think they can make #1 with "Headstrong."

I doubt they'll reach #1; wouldn't mind it if they do reach the top though! Top 5 looks very likely. With the amount of airplay Beyonce is getting, she'll be at #1 for a while; hopefully 3DD will also make it a week at the top.

Whoa...Fountains of Wayne are really shooting up! Definitely top 10, though it may level off soon. I'd like a top 5 entry for this song.

[ted11804]

I doubt Trapt will make #1. I'd say anywhere from #10 to #5.

Is Evanescence "Going Under" already done or will they pick up again?

Unfortunatley, it looks like "Baby Boy" is going to #1 next week. 3DD just doesn't have the steam. Looks like we might have our first #2 peak of the year (unless we some drastic changes this week.)

Just out of curiousity, what are your predictions for "Bigger Than My Body?" John has a bullet of about +125 (correct me if I'm wrong) They are currently at #24 and held back by rising singles like "Trouble" and "Stacy's Mom." My station WXKS was spinning him about 30x a week around 2 weeks ago and now he's off the Top 30 (below 18 spins at least)

P.S. shouldn't we start a 10/17/03 pop chart topic now that we know the results of 10/10/03?

[ExActLy99]

Unfortunatley, it looks like "Baby Boy" is going to #1 next week. 3DD just doesn't have the steam. Looks like we might have our first #2 peak of the year (unless we some drastic changes this week.)

I'm a little confused as to why a few of you have made comments that "Here Without You" will be the first song to peak at #2, come on "Baby Boy" isn't going to last that long, It's not going to keep that 1,000+ bullet forever. I'm fairly sure that 3 Doors Down will reach #1, it may not be for a few weeks, but Beyonce surely is not going to be #1 for longer than 4 weeks, however it could surprisingly happen. Right now though I just don't see or hear anything in the Top 20 that could make #1, unless of course Santana or Maroon 5 make it but that's doubtful, however one of them could be the first to peak at #2 for the year. That would be nice to see.

Is Evanescence "Going Under" already done or will they pick up again?

I would imagine that this is probably done, in my opinion it wasn't the best choice for the 2nd single, the 3rd single is already in place and is already getting plays at radio. "My Immortal" doesn't really sound like it is a great choice for a single, just an album track for the fans is all. "Taking Over Me" and "My Last Breath" sounded the best for a 2nd and 3rd single, they would be much, much more successful at radio, but all of that has been blown out of the water. Evanescence may be a one-hit wonder. EXTREMELY poor single choices in my opinion. I could've easily seen the 2 songs that I mentioned becoming Top 10 hits.

Whoa...Fountains of Wayne are really shooting up! Definitely top 10, though it may level off soon. I'd like a top 5 entry for this song.

Everyone was singing this song at school today! It was so funny, this is a very universal song, everyone I know seems to be enjoying a lot. However I think this song will get very annoying after while, but I've been listening to it for over 10 weeks, and I have the CD and I'm still not sick of it yet.

I doubt Trapt will make #1. I'd say anywhere from #10 to #5.

Well this song took forever to reach #1 alternative, does anyone know how long it took?? I think it took over 6 months, so there is always that chance of hitting #1 at Pop.
Sorry about this extremely long post, but I had a lot of stuff to get out.

[ted11804]

Quote:Whoa...Fountains of Wayne are really shooting up! Definitely top 10, though it may level off soon. I'd like a top 5 entry for this song.


Everyone was singing this song at school today! It was so funny, this is a very universal song, everyone I know seems to be enjoying a lot. However I think this song will get very annoying after while, but I've been listening to it for over 10 weeks, and I have the CD and I'm still not sick of it yet.

That's funny.....because everyone's been singing it at my school for the past 2 weeks. It's been the "song of the season" just like "The Anthem" and "I'd Do Anything" last year. The video definitely helps. ;) :)

[Mega248]

ted11804 said:

P.S. shouldn't we start a 10/17/03 pop chart topic now that we know the results of 10/10/03?

In my opinion, there's no need to until at least Saturday. As of now, we have no idea how things could turn out by Sunday night.

[GordonUM]

So "Unwell" falls out after 32 weeks in the top 40. That would put it in 4th place for the longest running hit since the 20/20 recurrent rule began in 1999. The only songs to go longer have been "Smooth" (35 weeks), "Hanging By A Moment" (36 weeks) and "Everything You Want" (37 weeks). That's without the year-end break, but if you are counting the break you've gotta tack on two weeks to "Smooth" and "Everything You Want" and also consider "Kryptonite" and "Wherever You Will Go" (33 weeks including the break) and "One Last Breath" (32 including the break).

[crash46]

Stacy's Mom would be the second best song in the top 10 at the moment, but since it's so overrated, I don't even think it would be an asset to the top 10.

There's nothing wrong with the single selection of "Going Under". It's performing exactly the way "Bring Me To Life" should have performed on CHR. "Going Under" is in its 19th week on the alternative chart with a bullet and in the top 5. One of the biggest hits of the year over there. It is even less of a pop song than their first hit, but the problem lies in the fact that Wind-up uses every single band it signs to earn a quick buck with little or no regard for long-term success.

But just when I started to think Evanescence got lucky and had successfully escaped from Pop, I find out that "My Immortal" is going to be their third single. Be prepared for "Bring Me To Life" all over again. [angry face].

[irice22]

I wouldn't say "My Immortal" will be as big as "Bring Me to Life," but I think it has a very good chance of being a bigger hit than "Going under," especially on pop.

[Hervard]

Well, Beyonce is number one on the latest update and 3DD is number two, just a few spins behind. I don't think we should rule out the possibility of the latter song being number one because rock songs seem to be more persistent than hip hop songs. I wonder how long Beyonce will stay on top. Any guesses?

[Keith3000]

Well, Beyonce is only 27 spins ahead of 3DD, according to the latest update. I'm thinking they also have a chance of reaching the top.

Hey, why does it show #2 for last-weeks's position of "Can't Hold Us Down"? I know it reached #2 sometime in the week, but never in the final update. I'm almost sure it CHOD peaked at #3.

[Hervard]

The "last week" positions reflect the position seven days ago. Apparently, "Can't Hold Us Down" was number two last Thursday.

If both Beyonce and 3DD top the chart, that'll continue the no peaks at number two situation. And, with no songs looking to get that high in the next few weeks, it's entirely possible that we could get through the entire year without any number two peaks. On the year end chart, however, there will be at least one song that stopped at number two within the chart year - "Jenny From The Block", which was unable to dislodge "Lose Yourself" by Eminem from the top.

[EvanJ]

3 Doors Down has a problem, Fountains Of Wayne could pass them before Beyonce featuring Sean Paul loses its bullet. Do "Here Without You," "Harder To Breathe," "Why Don't You & I," "Headstrong," and "Stacy's Mom" have a chance at an all rock/Hot Adult Contemporary Top 5?
Mandy Moore lost her bullet.

[ExActLy99]

3 Doors Down has a problem, Fountains Of Wayne could pass them before Beyonce featuring Sean Paul loses its bullet. Do "Here Without You," "Harder To Breathe," "Why Don't You & I," "Headstrong," and "Stacy's Mom" have a chance at an all rock/Hot Adult Contemporary Top 5?
Mandy Moore lost her bullet.

I think eventually, really soon, like no longer than 2 weeks, Beyonce's gains will go way down. I think that 3 Doors Down will still keep up gains at least above +400. I think it will be a very close race between the two until one of them loses its bullet. I still think 3 Doors Down will make #1. Right now I'm not really worried yet about Fountains of Wayne because I think this song is going to burn fast. It will become annoying after a while. It would make me so happy to see 5 rock/hot ac songs in the Top 5. When was the last time that happened?? I still think that Santana or Maroon 5 will be the first to peak at #2 this year. Someone's going to have to take that #2 peak sooner or later.

[irice22]

Poor Mandy, but if two songs go recurrent this week, she could have a chnce of making the top 40.

[FreakyFlyBry]

irice22 said:

Poor Mnady, but if two songs go recurrent this week, she could have a chnce of making the top 40.

I believe the only song above her that would go recurrent is "Magic Stick". Unfortunately, that would put Bow Wow in the top 40, and it would be a shame if he were the one to keep Mandy out.