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Post by ted11804 on Oct 18, 2003 10:13:28 GMT -5
Looks like the #2 curse may end......in this morning's update.......3DD is back at the top. (by 15 spins) Why does Beyonce always slow down for the weekends?
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Post by irice22 on Oct 18, 2003 12:47:25 GMT -5
I wouldn't exactly call it a curse... lol! Maybe, like a dry spell.
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Post by j on Oct 18, 2003 12:51:41 GMT -5
3DD is back at the top. (by 15 spins) Why does Beyonce always slow down for the weekends? Beyonce's spin gain has moved up a bit since yesterday, so I don't think she slows down over the weekend. More like on Thursdays and Fridays. Maybe if she keeps going to #1 on Tuesdays she might beat the record for "Most Number Of Times Hitting #1 On Weekdays Without Actually Getting #1 On The Final Update". |
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Post by Keith3000 on Oct 18, 2003 13:09:49 GMT -5
Maybe if she keeps going to #1 on Tuesdays she might beat the record for "Most Number Of Times Hitting #1 On Weekdays Without Actually Getting #1 On The Final Update". Lol! What other songs would be on that list? Possibly "Foolish" or "All My Life"? Did Savage Garden ever regain the #1 spot midweek sometime during "My Heart Will Go On"'s run at the top (they did eventually get back to #1)? This whole thing has got me thinking. A song could be #1 almost the whole week, and suddenly drop to #2 on the final Sunday update, therefore never making #1! I realize Rick Dees often uses mid-week Mediabase charts for his show (he's not done that lately though). Perhaps this could explain why certain songs that were not #1 on R&R reached #1 on his chart (like Cher's "Believe" or Santana's "Maria, Maria") and songs that did reach the top on R&R only peaked at #2 on Rick Dees (like Eve's "Let Me Blow Ya Mind" and Third Eye Blind's "Jumper".) Just a thought; sorry to go off-topic. |
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Post by EvanJ on Oct 18, 2003 17:12:11 GMT -5
You're right, radiorules; CHUD did peak at #2 sometime midweek, but lost a few spins before the final update. "Can't Hold Us Down" had a small move, the real reason it fell to 4 were the big bullets of the current Top 2. |
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Post by Matt4319 on Oct 18, 2003 18:51:46 GMT -5
This whole thing has got me thinking. A song could be #1 almost the whole week, and suddenly drop to #2 on the final Sunday update, therefore never making #1! Yeah, "Bring Me to Life" has gotten screwed by this on two different charts. It was denied #1 altogether on Alternative by "Somewhere I Belong" despite being #1 from Tuesday to Saturday in some week, and was #1 for most of the week after its only week at #1 at Pop. |
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Post by crazyfun1 on Oct 19, 2003 15:28:47 GMT -5
This is great news. 3 Doors Down have their second consecutive #1 on the pop charts. How often does that happen these days for a rock band? I'm REALLY glad it's 3DD's turn to shine on Pop. Someone besides some bimbo-ish nonsense other teen pop. This IS the year for ROCK! I guess we'll see if MB20 hits #1 again with Bright Lights, seeing the song is @ #6 on the Hot AC chart. It's not at all, "far fetched"  I really hope both of these bands go away from awards this year, with MANY in there hands. Both are very deserving of EVERY award they may/will earn! |
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Post by Eyeball on Oct 19, 2003 17:23:50 GMT -5
I REALLY hope Beyonce can hit #1. She deserves it more than 3 Doors Down.
What happened to the pop-leaning rhythmic music? Everything's either AC/rock or yelling and screaming like "Get Low" these days.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 19, 2003 17:26:36 GMT -5
I kinda liked it better when the music scene wasnt soo extreme as far as tastes go.
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Post by j on Oct 19, 2003 17:56:58 GMT -5
Someone besides some bimbo-ish nonsense other teen pop. This IS the year for ROCK! Every year is THE year for ROCK on the ROCK formats. However, this is the Pop format we're talking about, and "bimbo-ish nonsense other teen pop" has and deserves a place on it. |
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Post by Arson on Oct 19, 2003 18:15:13 GMT -5
I wouldn't mind another week for 3 Doors Down at the top... Beyonce's gains and audience impressions are higher, so there's always next week for "Baby Boy".
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Post by Matt4319 on Oct 19, 2003 18:20:45 GMT -5
What happened to the pop-leaning rhythmic music? Everything's either AC/rock or yelling and screaming like "Get Low" these days. It never left. 02 02 BEYONCE Baby Boy f/Sean Paul 03 03 NELLY/P. DIDDY/MURPHY LEE Shake Ya Tailfeather 04 06 CHRISTINA AGUILERA Can't Hold Us Down 08 11 MYA My Love Is Like...Wo 21 13 BABY BASH Suga Suga 11 18 50 CENT P.I.M.P. 18 20 CHINGY Right Thurr 19 21 FABOLOUS Into You f/Tamia/Ashanti 14 22 BEYONCE Crazy In Love 34 33 BUBBA SPARXXX Deliverance 29 36 PHARRELL Frontin' f/Jay-Z 36 38 LUMIDEE Never Leave You 48 43 LUDACRIS Stand Up 41 44 BOW WOW Let's Get Down 54 50 MISSY ELLIOTT Pass That Dutch |
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Post by Eyeball on Oct 19, 2003 18:27:18 GMT -5
Yeah, but it's only 15 songs out of 50...that's not very much...
And I don't consider Christina Aguilera rhythmic, so it's really 14/50.
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Post by BFMR on Oct 19, 2003 18:28:44 GMT -5
I REALLY hope Beyonce can hit #1. She deserves it more than 3 Doors Down. once again, this according to you, and not fact.... |
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Post by Eyeball on Oct 19, 2003 18:31:45 GMT -5
once again, this according to you, and not fact.... Duh. |
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Post by Matt4319 on Oct 19, 2003 19:15:52 GMT -5
Yeah, but it's only 15 songs out of 50...that's not very much... That's a third of the chart, and it's all you can really ask for. Anything over one-third (of rhythmic, rock, or pop) is a pleasant surprise (or disappointment, depending on which genre you favor). And I don't consider Christina Aguilera rhythmic, so it's really 14/50. It hit #20 on Rhythmic midweek, so I'd consider that enough evidence. And I kept Lil' Jon out because you singled it out as being "screaming", but I think it belongs on the list, so it's 16/50. I think there's a pretty good balance of rock and rhythmic leaning stuff on the chart right now. |
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Post by Eyeball on Oct 19, 2003 19:28:41 GMT -5
And I kept Lil' Jon out because you singled it out as being "screaming", but I think it belongs on the list, so it's 16/50. In that case, what about "Hey Ya"? That's a LOT more pop-friendly than "Get Low." I'd guess "Stand Up" is not pop-friendly, although I haven't heard it, but "Act A Fool" was EXTREMELY pop-UNfriendly. IMO a good balance would be 25 rhythmic, 15 pop/dance, 10 rock, 0 country. I don't think anything with a country sound should be NEAR the Top 40, although there were 2 such songs in the Top 10 this year ("Picture" and "Drift Away"). The only rock should be mainstream stuff like "Here Without You", "Stacy's Mom", "Why Don't You And I" and NOT hardcore stuff like "Headstrong" and "Someday." |
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Post by mst3k on Oct 19, 2003 19:37:14 GMT -5
IMO a good balance would be 25 rhythmic, 15 pop/dance, 10 rock, 0 country. Since we're talking about the CHR/ Pop format, the ideal balance would lean toward pop/dance, with rhythmic and hot AC/rock making up the remainder. You want music weighted toward rhythmic, that's why there's a CHR/Rhythmic format. |
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Post by Matt4319 on Oct 19, 2003 19:40:19 GMT -5
In that case, what about "Hey Ya"? That's a LOT more pop-friendly than "Get Low." "Hey Ya" hit the Alternative chart and not the Rhythmic chart (although that's probably due to it not being the primary release to that format), so I felt I couldn't classify it in either category. And my list wasn't supposed to be "pop-friendly rhythmic songs", although I know that's what you were talking about at first. IMO a good balance would be 25 rhythmic, 15 pop/dance, 10 rock, 0 country. I don't think anything with a country sound should be NEAR the Top 40, although there were 2 such songs in the Top 10 this year ("Picture" and "Drift Away"). Well, that's your opinion, and it's obviously a subjective one. My statement about being a good balance was objective -- I'd rather see the pop chart more Hot AC- and Alternative-leaning, but that's just me. The only rock should be mainstream stuff like "Here Without You", "Stacy's Mom", "Why Don't You And I" and NOT hardcore stuff like "Headstrong" and "Someday." "Someday" hardcore?? LOL... maybe for the AC chart! |
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Post by Eyeball on Oct 19, 2003 20:32:56 GMT -5
Since we're talking about the CHR/ Pop format, the ideal balance would lean toward pop/dance, with rhythmic and hot AC/rock making up the remainder. You want music weighted toward rhythmic, that's why there's a CHR/Rhythmic format. The problem with the rhythmic chart is that it's TOO far toward rhythmic...there should be a "pop/rhythmic" chart that's in between the two. |
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Post by Matt4319 on Oct 19, 2003 20:41:27 GMT -5
The problem with the rhythmic chart is that it's TOO far toward rhythmic...there should be a "pop/rhythmic" chart that's in between the two. There should also be a "pop/alternative" chart, an "ac/country" chart, a "Christian/jazz" chart, a "Latin/metal" chart, and an "aaa/urban" chart too. That way everyone's satisfied. Come on... it's unrealistic to have two charts that are pretty close to what you like and being satisfied with neither. |
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Post by jimmy74747 on Oct 19, 2003 20:44:35 GMT -5
The problem with the rhythmic chart is that it's TOO far toward rhythmic... Is the rock chart too rock as well? Or maybe the country chart is too country too. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2003 20:45:19 GMT -5
Is the rock chart too rock as well? Or maybe the country chart is too country too. LOL |
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Post by jimmy74747 on Oct 19, 2003 20:47:19 GMT -5
IMO a good balance would be 25 rhythmic, 15 pop/dance, 10 rock, 0 country. Why more rhtymic than the others? What about 15 pop, 15 rock, 15 rhythmic and 5 country/christian/ac???? NOT hardcore stuff like "Headstrong" and "Someday." These songs are more mainstream than "Get Low" or "PIMP" |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2003 20:48:08 GMT -5
How is "Someday" "hardcore"?
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 19, 2003 21:17:23 GMT -5
The problem with the rhythmic chart is that it's TOO far toward rhythmic...there should be a "pop/rhythmic" chart that's in between the two. You win the dumb post of the week award for this statement! |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Oct 19, 2003 21:21:02 GMT -5
Why more rhtymic than the others? What about 15 pop, 15 rock, 15 rhythmic and 5 country/christian/ac???? These songs are more mainstream than "Get Low" or "PIMP" I am sorry but Get Low and PIMP are far more radio friendly than Someday and Headstrong which is why they were played more. |
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Post by Matt4319 on Oct 19, 2003 21:23:45 GMT -5
"Headstrong" is above both "Get Low" and "P.I.M.P." on the Pop chart.
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Post by radiorules on Oct 19, 2003 23:32:33 GMT -5
There is always so much competition whenever Destiny's Child or now Beyonce release a single. "Crazy In Love" was neck in neck with "Where Is The Love", "Baby Boy" is Neck in Neck with "Here Without You", "Survivor" was blocked out of #1 by "All For You" and "Say My Name" by "Bye, Bye, Bye".
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Post by allow that on Oct 20, 2003 10:29:01 GMT -5
You win the dumb post of the week award for this statement! Actually, that's not a dumb statement at all. Up until about 2 years ago, the Rhythmic chart was exactly what Eyeball described. |
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