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Post by nightwing1982 on Dec 13, 2003 22:05:47 GMT -5
Now that Ryan Seacrest will be the new host of American Top 40 ... Will American Top 40 still use the R&R pop chart? The reason i asked this question is that i read in R&R online that there will be a format change in the way Ryan Seacrest will count down the 40 hits every week by online votes. Is this true? I can accept Ryan as the new host. (I been a long time fan of Casey Kasem since 1982 when he used Billboard and in 1989 with R&R) I will not listen to the countdown by online votes to rank the songs 40 to #1. I will rather listened to Rick Dees. I also read that radio stations will only pick up the show on the internet and not by CD's. Can someone please tell me what's the true story please?
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Post by Mega248 on Dec 14, 2003 0:04:36 GMT -5
Yes, apparently the top 40 will now be based on online votes. More information is available in the "Ryan Seacrest to be new host of American Top 40" topic.
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Post by StephL on Dec 14, 2003 1:45:13 GMT -5
Ev posted this on Rob Durkee's site:
In the 12/12 issue of Radio and Records magazine, there are full page adds for AT20 and AT40. The ad for AT40 shows the new AT40 logo, and the text of the AT40 ad includes:
"...new features: #1 Web Hit, Inside Scoops, Special AT40 Correspondents from affiliate stations, Ryan's e-mail inbox and more!"
"Delivered via ... Internet/FTP for the most timely charts"
The text for the AT20 ad includes:
"...counts down the top hits for Hot AC and AC stations along with his signature 'Long Distance Dedications' and the stories behind the songs".
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Post by mst3k on Dec 14, 2003 16:24:11 GMT -5
"...new features: #1 Web Hit, Inside Scoops, Special AT40 Correspondents from affiliate stations, Ryan's e-mail inbox and more!" Hmm... they only say "#1 Web Hit", so maybe that means the bulk of the show will continue to use the official R&R pop chart, and the website voting will just be used for supplemental material (I can hope, can't I?). |
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Post by GordonUM on Dec 14, 2003 21:31:34 GMT -5
Anyone have a scan of the full ad?
"#1 Web Hit" definitely seems to imply that the online voting will be for countdown extras, not the entire chart.
But then "the most timely charts" also suggests that the charts they use will be a bit fresher than they are now. What we can really hope for is that they'll be able to produce and distribute the show quickly enough that the Sunday Mediabase update will be on the air by the next weekend. It would definitely be nice to hear the current week's R&R chart rather than the previous week's one. Of course we could also get them using a midweek update or another mystery Mediabase chart like they did in 2000. We'll just have to wait and see.
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Post by chebingeo on Dec 15, 2003 2:07:52 GMT -5
I really hope the show's format doesn't change too much. The way the show is run now is just great. (No fancy music, artist interesting facts, long distance dedications, tops of the past charts, etc...)
Hopefully the LDD's stay, and hopefully he won't tweak them so every LDD is a song by Kelly, Clay or Wooben.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Dec 15, 2003 12:15:16 GMT -5
I'd like some new features added to it like a clip of the Top 5 songs this time in X year, a flashback type hit, maybe just 2 dedications, a hit potential song, and stuff like that. Interviews are fun too. Keep all the current AT40 stuff, just add new stuff.
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Post by StephL on Dec 15, 2003 14:41:52 GMT -5
With the show heading into a new direction, LDD's are probably considered something old and associated with Casey Kasem. Likewise, with so many other features being introduced, I wonder if there will even be any more LDD's on AT40 . Who knows? Just guessing, but maybe one of Casey Kasem's conditions for giving up AT40 was to retain the LDD's for his own show.
About delivering via ftp, will they be mp3's? How big do you suppose those files will be? Even a typical 128k 4 hour show would be over 200MB's. Of course, 128 is not even broadcast quality. Just wondering, has this ever been done before by any other show? How likely is it that stations playing old shows because for whatever reason the program could not be downloaded?
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Post by Slinky on Dec 15, 2003 17:42:24 GMT -5
Well it's good to see that all the hysteria about AT40 being based on online votes has died down. Hate to say I told you so. :) I'd like some new features added to it like a clip of the Top 5 songs this time in X year, a flashback type hit, maybe just 2 dedications, a hit potential song, and stuff like that. Interviews are fun too. Keep all the current AT40 stuff, just add new stuff. Ironically, that would be just like the OLD AT40 with Shadoe Stevens. They did a top 5 flashback, artist interviews, a "sneak peek" at a potential hit, with only one long distance dedication. Certainly the files would be huge, but we're talking about radio stations with T1 lines, not dial-up users. Some content is already delivered online. The music you hear coming out of your radio right now is most likely compressed on a hard drive. It's probably not MP3 though; most automation systems have their own proprietary compression software. |
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Post by chebingeo on Dec 15, 2003 20:54:59 GMT -5
With the show heading into a new direction, LDD's are probably considered something old and associated with Casey Kasem. Likewise, with so many other features being introduced, I wonder if there will even be any more LDD's on AT40 . Who knows? Just guessing, but maybe one of Casey Kasem's conditions for giving up AT40 was to retain the LDD's for his own show. Question: When the Top 40 Countdown with David Perry was on (which lasted 2 weeks in 1998) were there any kind of dedications? Also on this weeks show, Casey used the "if you want to send a LDD" speech, which he probably would not have done if it was being taken out, but I'm not sure what's going on. In this week's R&R there's a big color add for Casey Kasem hosting American Top 20 AC and Hot AC and on the very next page is a full color photo of Ryan Seacrest for AT40. |
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Post by Cerebro on Dec 15, 2003 22:42:58 GMT -5
Question: When the Top 40 Countdown with David Perry was on (which lasted 2 weeks in 1998) were there any kind of dedications? Just checked my records. Yes, there were dedications during the two interim weeks. There were 3 of them the weekend of 3/14/98 and only 2 on 3/21/98. AT40 then resumed on 3/28/98. |
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Post by Hervard on Dec 16, 2003 11:06:27 GMT -5
Just checked my records. Yes, there were dedications during the two interim weeks. There were 3 of them the weekend of 3/14/98 and only 2 on 3/21/98. The week of March 21, 1998, on the AC show, there was a special feature called "Hitbound", which, to my knowledge, had never been on Casey's Countdown before. The song picked was "Safe Place From The Storm" by Michael Bolton. Ironically, that was one of Michael's few Top Ten misses on the A/C chart. The only other one that I know of was "Dock Of The Bay". There wasn't a "Hitbound" feature on Casey's Top 40 (or "The Top 40"), was there? |
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Post by mst3k on Dec 16, 2003 11:13:52 GMT -5
There wasn't a "Hitbound" feature on Casey's Top 40 (or "The Top 40"), was there? Nope... the only major difference on that week's Top 40 Countdown was that the show opened by replaying the previous week's #1 song ("My Heart Will Go On"), which hadn't been done in many years. |
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Post by Hervard on Dec 16, 2003 13:27:57 GMT -5
Wow, that's unusual. Yeah, that was probably the song to fill the hole left by one less dedication than usual. I figured maybe they just repeated the second verse of certain songs (in fact, I'm surprised they didn't do that, but then again, that's more of an AT40/AT20 thing).
I wonder what they did for "Casey's Hot 20", or as it was called in March, 1998, "The Hot 20"? Probably the same as AT40, playing the previous week's #1 song.
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Dec 16, 2003 19:15:19 GMT -5
The show was called Top 40 Countdown and the jingles they used were pretty much the same as Casey's Top 40 except they sang "Top 40 Countdown"!
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Post by lacrosseboy on Dec 18, 2003 19:06:18 GMT -5
Regarding changes to AT40--here is what's up:
The days of the LDD are gone and done for with AT40.
There won't be a lot of chart information.
There will be more news about artists and movies, etc.
They will be using drops from Ryan's TV show.
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Post by Matt4319 on Dec 18, 2003 19:12:20 GMT -5
Regarding changes to AT40--here is what's up: The days of the LDD are gone and done for with AT40. There won't be a lot of chart information. There will be more news about artists and movies, etc. They will be using drops from Ryan's TV show. Yikes. That ain't good. |
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Dec 18, 2003 19:32:00 GMT -5
So basically it's a crappy show for idiot teenage girls that stole the name of Casey's show?!
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Post by krazymack on Dec 18, 2003 20:20:45 GMT -5
Regarding changes to AT40--here is what's up: The days of the LDD are gone and done for with AT40. There won't be a lot of chart information. There will be more news about artists and movies, etc. They will be using drops from Ryan's TV show. That is terrible. AT40 is going down the tubes.  I'm just going to hunt for Casey on the Hot AC version of AT20. Thank goodness that he'll still be on at least some countdown. I couldn't fathom Casey going goodbye forever, at least for now. |
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Post by chebingeo on Dec 19, 2003 2:15:39 GMT -5
Regarding changes to AT40--here is what's up: The days of the LDD are gone and done for with AT40. There won't be a lot of chart information. There will be more news about artists and movies, etc. They will be using drops from Ryan's TV show. Time to write and complain. |
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Post by GordonUM on Dec 19, 2003 9:29:26 GMT -5
Regarding changes to AT40--here is what's up: The days of the LDD are gone and done for with AT40. There won't be a lot of chart information. There will be more news about artists and movies, etc. They will be using drops from Ryan's TV show. I've read in a few places that Ryan idolized Casey and Rick Dees. But judging from this, it sounds like he had them confused with Leeza Gibbons. Not that I think he would actually have much input in a show like this. Sounds like just another outlet for the entertainment industry to market stuff that we're already being sold on every morning radio show, every daytime talk show, every late night talk show, every magazine, Entertainment Tonight, Access Hollywood, and every show on MTV, VH1 and E!. We may not be hearing much about peak positions and weeks on the chart anymore, but I bet we'll be hearing at least ten release dates in every show. |
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Post by johnnywest on Dec 19, 2003 10:04:51 GMT -5
I doubt that the AT40 chart will be ranked by online votes. It will probably just be a separate online poll that's posted every week.
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Post by Hervard on Dec 19, 2003 10:46:58 GMT -5
All this being said, when do you think AT40 will go back to the graveyard?
As stated in another thread or two, I think it'll be sometime in 2004.
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Post by StephL on Dec 19, 2003 12:44:31 GMT -5
It will die when people are sick of "American Idol".
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Post by insect2 on Dec 19, 2003 13:32:18 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if they even skipped a song or two each week to either play a different song, or accomodate for all the other stuff.
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Post by mst3k on Dec 19, 2003 17:17:25 GMT -5
All this being said, when do you think AT40 will go back to the graveyard? As stated in another thread or two, I think it'll be sometime in 2004. I doubt Premiere would dump it that quickly... That being said, I'll have to wait and hear what the first show sounds like before I give my guess. :) |
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Post by top30countdown on Dec 19, 2003 19:51:09 GMT -5
Billboard's Airplay Monitor reported last week that Casey's contract for American Hot 20 and American Top 20 will carry him into the next decade. He'll be in his late 70's by then.
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Post by lacrosseboy on Dec 21, 2003 12:06:22 GMT -5
None of us, nor the show's staff for that matter, has any say in these matters. These are all upper-management decisions.
I think that it is rather early to say that American Top 40 will go down the tubes yet. I'm still going to listen to the show. I'd love to listen to American Top 20, but the only place that it is played in Minnesota is in Willmar, and I live in the Twin Cities.
We'll see how this all plays out. I think that Ryan did a good job subbing for Casey, but they're changing the format of the show so it'll be different.
If any of you have heard the former "Rhythm Countdown with Ellen K", the show will be more on that caliber.
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